Why is it that cry baby bastards have to leave giant paragraphs on videos that they shouldn't even be watching, Oh, you're soooo important and cool for believing in god and wanting to argue with people because they are always sooooo wrong. Get a life you freaking fanatics... BILL MAHER RULES!
i was just thinking about all the historical facts (not) surrounding jesus. there is literally no evidence of him ever existing. no jewish records, no roman records, and everything "christian" was stolen from the gnostics and previous religions, all considered to be mythologies.
christianity, judaism, and islam, are the biggest hoaxes ever "created", yet we are still being ruled by them. how depressing.
@tomitstube You should read more. You are horribly misinformed, either intentionally or just through gross ignorance. If you are interested, read about Josephus's commentaries on Jesus. Unless you think HE is a hoax too.
@Gaius8666a ~ yeah, not documented fact, no such proof. so yes, it's just like the christian bible, completely written after the (mythical) fact. it's fabricated just like the whole literal jesus was. josephus has been debunked.
it's just a story dude, just like all the rest of them. the ones you call "mythologies".
@tomitstube It consistently amazes me how aggressively ignorant atheists are. WOW! If you want to debate whether Jesus was the Son of God, that is a legitimate debate. To claim he never existed puts you into a very small group of people, one that NO reputable historian falls into.
@Gaius8666a ~ that may be so. i am very comfortable the story of jesus is a fabrication.
there are too many religions that came before christianity that tell of a - son of god - born of a virgin - rose from the dead, the three days of the winter solstice... it's mythology dude.
read 'the jesus mysteries', based completely on verifiable data from the period. the writing of the bible is fiction.
@tomitstube It is a different argument to say that Jesus was not divine, or that his divinitity was based on prior myths than saying Jesus never existed. That is demonstrably untrue.
@Gaius8666a ~ not so. every other prophet or man-god is a myth, why is jesus different? the gnostic's worshiped a mystic jesus based on the greek/roman deities. the original version of christianity. this original jesus was not a man, along came a new sect of christians who made jesus literal, thereby implying their god was something real. this was of course long after the so-called biblical events. this rebranding didn't actually become the majority until around 300 c.e. in rome.
@tomitstube Name another mythological creature that has a definitive timeframe that they lived? or that the stories that were written about them would have been able to be verified or denied by eye witnesses? The Gospels were written within 20-60 years of Jesus's death in approximately 30 AD. Osiris does not have a timeframe in recorded history, but Jesus does. If you want to deny his divinitiy, good luck with that task but to deny his existence proves you a fool. Jesus is not a myth.
@Gaius8666a ~ are all other gods, man-gods, and prophets, real or myth? what makes jesus the only real one? there is no evidence of him existing, there is evidence however that jesus was a manifestation of gnostics and the jewish bible. gnostics were a sect of greek mystics who were the original christians.
there are literal writings of this. the literal christians, or the christianity you worship tried to destroy links to the gnostics. there's written evidence of this too.
@tomitstube The Gospels were all written between 70 AD and 110 AD. The Gnostic writings you are referring to were written much later (late 200s). Suetonios, Josephus, Pliny, The persecutions of Nero are some of the most glaring non-Biblical proof of the early Christian movement which was obviously based on a real person (no one believes myths from 10 years ago, myths take time to form).
@Gaius8666a ~ the gnostics evolved from the greeks. there are copies of their pagan jesus stories deriving from an amalgam of several religions. the original bible scholars martyr, tertullian, and ireaeus have been exposed for their rewrites and deceptions to discredit gnostics and to self aggrandize the literal jesus. the literalists finally aligned with the romans ca. 300 to destroy the gnostics.
you're right, the bible was written generations after the so-called miracles.
@tomitstube They were written from oral traditions that can be traced right back to the crucifixion. I think you have read too many Dan Brown novels as it seems you are more likely to believe wild, discredited, historically inaccurate crackpot theories than accept the historical (and proven) concensus. Your faith in the Jesus Myth canard is stronger than any backwater snake handlers faith in Jesus that I could imagine. You are not seriously interested in actual history.
@Gaius8666a ~ "written oral traditions"? you mean rewritten stories? yep, it's all the other religions that are myth, but the jesus one is real. ; / you'd think the son of god, the creator of the universe, the great houdini, would have something more concrete than oral stories rewritten . you can dismiss the gnostics and their influence on jesus and christianity, it's what the literalists meant to do, one thing has been proven beyond a doubt, the original bible scholars routinely lied.
@tomitstube Zeitgeist has obviously warped another mind. Its sad when nonsense is accepted with no proof, but things that are proven and accepted are part of a large conspiracy.
@Gaius8666a ~ riiiiight... you believe an invisible supreme being knocked up a jewish peasant girl to have a man-god love child. then the man-god love child purposely gets himself tortured and executed to prove his fathers love for us. and in between he heals the sick by touching them and walks on water. and this person really existed...
lol, and you say i have the "warped mind" not to believe this nonsense.
@tomitstube Again, arguing that Jesus is not divine is one belief that may be rational (although incorrect) to hold. Claiming he never existed at all requires a HUGE leap of faith, a conscious desire to ignore accepted facts and a mindless idealogical mindset that is far more irrational than those you claim are irrational. It must be easier to pretend that he never existed than to face the problems that his existence creates for you.
@Gaius8666a ~ an "accepted fact" is gravity. jesus is a mythical allegory. i am presenting historical evidence to this point, you argument is laced with words like "leap of faith", and "belief". we seem to have reached an impasse.
@tomitstube I agree we are at an impasse, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, it is a complete falsehood that you claim you have presented historical evidence for Jesus being a mythological creation. You have spouted discredited theories. There is ample evidence of the existence of Jesus that I cited that you have chosen to ignore. Again, if you want to claim Jesus is not God that is a different argument than saying he never existed. That was my only point.
If any of you aren't living in Texas I envy you. I mean I like Texas as a state. But try being a high school student in one of the dumbest ranked states in the USA. Plus Perry continues to get rid of financial aid for college. And he constantly acts like he cares about education when he builds sports editions to schools instead of using the money to hire more teachers. And he gets rid of perfectly good teachers and acts like it's for the sake of education. FUCK YOU RICK PERRY!!!
Hilarious. When Bill Maher's show aired, this "spectactular" had given out only 8K free tickets. In the paper today I read 30K, or so, showed up, so this "ad" must have helped.
I was wondering how prayer for rain in Texas resulted in floods in New England. What's up? God has bad aim?
George4943 5 months ago
Why is it that cry baby bastards have to leave giant paragraphs on videos that they shouldn't even be watching, Oh, you're soooo important and cool for believing in god and wanting to argue with people because they are always sooooo wrong. Get a life you freaking fanatics... BILL MAHER RULES!
ToastedFetus 5 months ago 3
bill maher is a fag..
gHoStsOfTheHollow 6 months ago in playlist Rick Perry
i was just thinking about all the historical facts (not) surrounding jesus. there is literally no evidence of him ever existing. no jewish records, no roman records, and everything "christian" was stolen from the gnostics and previous religions, all considered to be mythologies.
christianity, judaism, and islam, are the biggest hoaxes ever "created", yet we are still being ruled by them. how depressing.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube You should read more. You are horribly misinformed, either intentionally or just through gross ignorance. If you are interested, read about Josephus's commentaries on Jesus. Unless you think HE is a hoax too.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ yeah, not documented fact, no such proof. so yes, it's just like the christian bible, completely written after the (mythical) fact. it's fabricated just like the whole literal jesus was. josephus has been debunked.
it's just a story dude, just like all the rest of them. the ones you call "mythologies".
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube It consistently amazes me how aggressively ignorant atheists are. WOW! If you want to debate whether Jesus was the Son of God, that is a legitimate debate. To claim he never existed puts you into a very small group of people, one that NO reputable historian falls into.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ that may be so. i am very comfortable the story of jesus is a fabrication.
there are too many religions that came before christianity that tell of a - son of god - born of a virgin - rose from the dead, the three days of the winter solstice... it's mythology dude.
read 'the jesus mysteries', based completely on verifiable data from the period. the writing of the bible is fiction.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube It is a different argument to say that Jesus was not divine, or that his divinitity was based on prior myths than saying Jesus never existed. That is demonstrably untrue.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ not so. every other prophet or man-god is a myth, why is jesus different? the gnostic's worshiped a mystic jesus based on the greek/roman deities. the original version of christianity. this original jesus was not a man, along came a new sect of christians who made jesus literal, thereby implying their god was something real. this was of course long after the so-called biblical events. this rebranding didn't actually become the majority until around 300 c.e. in rome.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube Name another mythological creature that has a definitive timeframe that they lived? or that the stories that were written about them would have been able to be verified or denied by eye witnesses? The Gospels were written within 20-60 years of Jesus's death in approximately 30 AD. Osiris does not have a timeframe in recorded history, but Jesus does. If you want to deny his divinitiy, good luck with that task but to deny his existence proves you a fool. Jesus is not a myth.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ are all other gods, man-gods, and prophets, real or myth? what makes jesus the only real one? there is no evidence of him existing, there is evidence however that jesus was a manifestation of gnostics and the jewish bible. gnostics were a sect of greek mystics who were the original christians.
there are literal writings of this. the literal christians, or the christianity you worship tried to destroy links to the gnostics. there's written evidence of this too.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube The Gospels were all written between 70 AD and 110 AD. The Gnostic writings you are referring to were written much later (late 200s). Suetonios, Josephus, Pliny, The persecutions of Nero are some of the most glaring non-Biblical proof of the early Christian movement which was obviously based on a real person (no one believes myths from 10 years ago, myths take time to form).
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ the gnostics evolved from the greeks. there are copies of their pagan jesus stories deriving from an amalgam of several religions. the original bible scholars martyr, tertullian, and ireaeus have been exposed for their rewrites and deceptions to discredit gnostics and to self aggrandize the literal jesus. the literalists finally aligned with the romans ca. 300 to destroy the gnostics.
you're right, the bible was written generations after the so-called miracles.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube They were written from oral traditions that can be traced right back to the crucifixion. I think you have read too many Dan Brown novels as it seems you are more likely to believe wild, discredited, historically inaccurate crackpot theories than accept the historical (and proven) concensus. Your faith in the Jesus Myth canard is stronger than any backwater snake handlers faith in Jesus that I could imagine. You are not seriously interested in actual history.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ "written oral traditions"? you mean rewritten stories? yep, it's all the other religions that are myth, but the jesus one is real. ; / you'd think the son of god, the creator of the universe, the great houdini, would have something more concrete than oral stories rewritten . you can dismiss the gnostics and their influence on jesus and christianity, it's what the literalists meant to do, one thing has been proven beyond a doubt, the original bible scholars routinely lied.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube Zeitgeist has obviously warped another mind. Its sad when nonsense is accepted with no proof, but things that are proven and accepted are part of a large conspiracy.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ riiiiight... you believe an invisible supreme being knocked up a jewish peasant girl to have a man-god love child. then the man-god love child purposely gets himself tortured and executed to prove his fathers love for us. and in between he heals the sick by touching them and walks on water. and this person really existed...
lol, and you say i have the "warped mind" not to believe this nonsense.
tomitstube 6 months ago 2
@tomitstube Again, arguing that Jesus is not divine is one belief that may be rational (although incorrect) to hold. Claiming he never existed at all requires a HUGE leap of faith, a conscious desire to ignore accepted facts and a mindless idealogical mindset that is far more irrational than those you claim are irrational. It must be easier to pretend that he never existed than to face the problems that his existence creates for you.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a ~ an "accepted fact" is gravity. jesus is a mythical allegory. i am presenting historical evidence to this point, you argument is laced with words like "leap of faith", and "belief". we seem to have reached an impasse.
tomitstube 6 months ago
@tomitstube I agree we are at an impasse, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, it is a complete falsehood that you claim you have presented historical evidence for Jesus being a mythological creation. You have spouted discredited theories. There is ample evidence of the existence of Jesus that I cited that you have chosen to ignore. Again, if you want to claim Jesus is not God that is a different argument than saying he never existed. That was my only point.
Gaius8666a 6 months ago
@Gaius8666a There is ample evidence for the existence of Jesus? Oh, please tell me where I can find that.
If some guy named Jesus existed, but was incapable of performing any miracles, then Jesus did not exist in any meaningful sense.
bryanhaw1 1 month ago
If any of you aren't living in Texas I envy you. I mean I like Texas as a state. But try being a high school student in one of the dumbest ranked states in the USA. Plus Perry continues to get rid of financial aid for college. And he constantly acts like he cares about education when he builds sports editions to schools instead of using the money to hire more teachers. And he gets rid of perfectly good teachers and acts like it's for the sake of education. FUCK YOU RICK PERRY!!!
Tron239 6 months ago
Whats the song in the background of this????
bbdog141414 6 months ago
Hey, how can Jesus be a Republican? Wasn't he a union carpenter?
abbadabbadolittle 6 months ago
If he becomes president, I'm moving to the UK.
TwistedVibes 6 months ago
@TwistedVibes Too cold, but I agree. I'm going to Chile or Portugal. Maybe Nothern Greece...
2weardgirls 6 months ago
@TwistedVibes I'm right with you. I'll probably leave for college in 2012 anyway so maybe I can go to university in Britain if Perry gets elected...
unusintersepes 6 months ago
He died fur you.
feriwarlock 6 months ago
Excellent!
nodrugwars 6 months ago
Great! Another idiot pretend-Christian from Texas running for president. Just what we need.
RichAdams21 6 months ago 6
@RichAdams21 Hahaha.Exactly! The good thing is tho,this one isnt going anywhere.
mrbrianmccarthy 3 months ago
Hilarious. When Bill Maher's show aired, this "spectactular" had given out only 8K free tickets. In the paper today I read 30K, or so, showed up, so this "ad" must have helped.
:)
bigapplebucky 6 months ago 2
HAHA, thanks for uploading. I was looking for this. This is really funny shit.
Stingerbillion 7 months ago