Milling operation Mazak Integrex

[paolowilblu]

Complimenti il tuo video è bellissimo! Un.... MADE IN ITALY!

[DEVISPRINCI]

@paolowilblu Ti ringrazio i complimenti fanno sempre piacere

[stokes85dan]

che software cam usi?



[DEVISPRINCI]

@stokes85dan Mastercam

[BarneySaysHi]

it's a trophy!

[alehax27]

that stock must have been fairly expensive.

[hgfjtdjhtd687369876]

what is that?

[magmyk]

nice old school porn music!

[angelvenezuela2009]

EXCELENTE!........

[55Snakes]

Wow, looks like some GRAVY...

[LTF85199]

what is that thing?

[za2501]

por al musical izar el vídeo utilizaron el ritmo de la macarena???

[DanFrederiksen]

ice cream scoop : )

[lexichronicle2]

Arrrr! A fine hook for me piratey hand, sar, fine indeed, arrrrrrrrr!

[ibainesy]

I get why its machined in parts, to prevent vibration marks by machining a flimsy part at the end... but why isn't it finished in one smooth cut??? ie: the 'cup' is facing down, and it gets finished, then the chuck spindle rotates and gets finished on the back side.. instead of the chuck rotating constantly? (or did it work out to be quicker doing it this way?)

[grofing]

Tanto di cappello...Bella macchina ma senza offesa io sono per le europee...Più flessibili...a partire dai controlli!

In ogni caso complimenti!...Per i commenti negativi: IL MADE IN ITALY è sempre una spanna sopra a TUTTI e questo fa rodere il culo a tutto il mondo...

[DEVISPRINCI]

@grofing Grazie. Diciamo che ho scelto questo tipo di macchina perche' è sul mercato con questo modello da oltre 20 anni quindi spero che i problemi di gioventu' non li abbia...detto questo concordo con il discorso delle europe che nel mio parco macchine coprono il 90 %.

Per quanto riguarda il Made in Italy non lo si puo' discutere poi ognuno e' libero di dire cio' che vuole,sarebbe bello che comunque lo si facesse in maniera educata ma del resto non si puo' pretendere la perfezione...

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

What a waste of a multi-task CNC machine tool! Making Art? An Award of some kind? This machine was designed to make complex machine parts and components to further man-kind and free a mordern CNC Machinist from the hard task of fixturing a complex part in two or more setups. This is just silly. Make something real next time. Wait, I need to go to the grocery store in my F1 racecar to pick up some milk. Later!

[DEVISPRINCI]

@ChrisCraftJohnny.Mi piacciono questi commenti.

A dimenticavo ricordati di metterlo in frigorifero il latte.

[StickerMedia]

@DEVISPRINCI Gli italiani mi amano como bambini, e glietto metto culo come mussolini.

Or something like that.  Learned that from youtube, no clue what it means!

[madisonelectronic]

@ChrisCraftJohnny You must be blind. It is a hi-tech ass crack scraper. Buy one cause you need it.

[DEVISPRINCI]

@madisonelectronic ok grazie.

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

@madisonelectronic Nah, I'll just borrow one from your extensive collection. You beeing the ass crack scraper manufacturer and all. I only by the best from the ones who know the most. Madison, where is your shop? Fire Island, NY?

[DTwo88]

@ChrisCraftJohnny wow. how does it feel to be the worlds biggest kill-joy?

[Gauntletbloggs]

@ChrisCraftJohnny Hater, just cause you like sitting around making manifolds all day :P

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

@Gauntletbloggs Never made a manifold in my life. I have made plenty of US Naval, Air force, Medical, Semiconductor, Instrumentation, Power plant critical parts though. You know, that stuff that makes your liitle world go round.

[Neodymio]

@ChrisCraftJohnny A piece of art can cost more than a monotonous gear.

That piece can be a company symbol or empresarial gift

[ChrisCraftJohnny]

@Neodymio Yeah, but nobody is ordering 30,000 pcs. of your crap-art.

[Neodymio]

@ChrisCraftJohnny Ok, but is a demonstration, or perhaps have to be a useful piece to prove something? I learned machining with useless parts.

[deimos2k6]

wow carino! Pare che però i commenti di certi sapientini in materia qui non siano tanto positivi, non capisco se abbiano o meno capacità analitica, posso capire che il sistema Mazak/Integrex forse sia più lento di altri, ma come dici tu, non è un disegno tecnico, si tratta forse più di "scultura" che di fresatura, quindi penso sia questo il metodo migliore per creare qualche cosa di artistico. Se poi col Multiplex ne fai 5 di fila impiegando lo stesso tempo, cambia poco, tutto sommato.

[DEVISPRINCI]

@deimos2k6 Ciao finalmente un commente logico come hai ben capito si tratta di un oggetto particolare dove l'ottimizzazione non è certo la cosa piu' importante di conseguenza l'operato l'ho rivolto esclusivamente all'ottenere il particolare finito senza troppi probemi.Fa piacere che ci sia qualcuno che ne capisce qualcosa che guarda e commenta senza far sapere al mondo "so tutto io" ma centrando in pieno l'obbiettivo.

Ciao e buone feste.

[deimos2k6]

@DEVISPRINCI Hehehe beh sai com'è, sono artista a tempo perso ed operatore cnc di professione, per cui i concetti di video come questo per me sono facili da intuire... Buone feste anche a te!

[kthmoon]

@DEVISPRINCI Complimenti da Boston! Non e da tutti capire e potere lavorare in 5 axis. Io ho tre di queste Int-200 nella mia ufficina. Cosi stai usando per il Cam System? MasterCam?? GibbsCam?

[DEVISPRINCI]

@kthmoon Grazie da Milano.

io ne ho uno ma ne sto ordinando un'altro di Integrex200 il sw è Mastercam.

Ciao.

[biricchino81]

@DEVISPRINCI

complimenti!! sono un appassionato di macchine cnc e lavoro personalmente in una società aeronautica multinazionale.. costruiamo aerei in fibra di carbonio e perosnamente mi occupo del montaggio automatico.. precisamente comando dei robot cnc che si muovono su 7 assi.. e posso dirvi che oltre ad essere una vera figata vederli.. è sbalorditivo vedere la progettazione che c'è dietro.. complimenti!!

[DEVISPRINCI]

@biricchino81 Grazie,penso anche io che sia qualcosa di sbalorditivo lavorare su multiassi,sarebbe bello vedere un filmato,ti faccio i miei complimenti.

[biricchino81]

@DEVISPRINCI purtroppo filmati non posso pubblicarne perche sono aree con segreti militari.. però vedevo un video descrittivo dei robot che usiamo.. e sono 10 gli assi! il sistema si chiama gantry taurosys...

[chaghar]

beautiful

[bestamerica]

'

why not use a hot melt brass in the molding,,,

then cool off then open from molding,,,

then polish it,,,

more faster than this drill,,,

drill is too long wait and waste

[EuDanielSantos]

kuei... I´m not a Mastercam fanboy but in this particular case it´s a programmer´s fault... Mastercam supports what you said... but you are right that Mastercam is very limited for multitasking machines such as Integrexes... but not for this particular example...

[ctownsdelaval]

un real. very cool.

[rlunderhill]

Great job programing. 

[nicolafoggia]

mai vista una cosa del genere

[ptwolfe99]

Mastercam is awesome. I am taking my certification classes right now. Do you think anybody will hire me with no experience with Mastercam, I have 3 years of programming?

[mayhem7090]

very very cooooooool

[Xtremekrawler8]

MasterCAM is far more advanced than edge cam, he doesnt seem to have the 4th and 5th axis toolpaths yet, looks like he used core roughing and parrallell finishing paths, he needs to have the 4th axis activated in mastercam to make the part revolve around the tool.

[Kumbalaa]

And how much for this piece???

[lexichronicle]

Avast maties, yer land lubbin' scurvy dogs! Or is that just a really big spoon?

[Tagananero]

Que bonito es ver cómo de un bruto sacas semejante pieza.

[sudacaenny]

@Tagananero

y eso que no me has visto a mi. Horrendo bruto con semejante pieza jajajjaja. ahi si vas a decir que bonito!!!

[Tagananero]

@sudacaenny

What ever you say. Jejeje.

[douro20]

The music is Mammagamma and Pipeline, both by The Alan Parsons Project.

[Fred196407]

CNC è tutto molto nuovo per me e I `m cercando di imparare il più possibile su di esso.

I `m solo un ingegnere di casa, ma hanno grande interesse in questo campo.

Molte grazie per il video. I più gratificante.

Saluti, Terry.

[alaskaracer]

its a statue thats made in america

[dj6927]

Wow. Now that's what the Intregrex is for.

I say this because they bought one of these at work and use maybe half a percent of the machines abilities.

After side one of a part is done, the right chuck grabs the material and has to wait.

The Multiplex makes almost 5 pieces by the time the Integrex has made one.

Like you guys say, that's a lot of wasted material. Could something like this be done in a mold?

[OrganicDrew]

@dj6927

my thoughts exactly, if they needed exacting standards from a 3D design then they could simply cut away a cheaper material such as foam or wax, then use that positive to make a negative mold. melt away the wax mold to make room for molten metal baby .. and poor that shit in, wait for the metal to cool.. and no wasted metal.

just think if they were utilizing an expensive metal like gold or platinum, every grain adds up.

[dj6927]

@OrganicDrew That would make much more sense. Makes me think of when my uncle took me through his shop where they make railway switches. Guys stood there all day smacking wooden squares on tables and all that came out of them was a small cast. The rest was like a mud or a sand.

A shop beside it had this massive lathe that faced off 30 foot rails.

I watched this video again and wondered" how the hell did they part that off?".

[tvobssesed]

@dj6927 Mould ? Excellent idea ! But, how would you make a mould to start with ? Using similar machine I guess. And what if you need only one piece ? Still mould ? There is no cheaper way of doing it except perhaps rapid prototyping (3D printing, then thermal treatment)

[zapwatt]

Smooth jazz.  FAIL

[bakedtoperfection]

That thing looks like a love toy.

[nodnarbnoob]

its a french tickler with a clit stimulator

[Fred196407]

@nodnarbnoob LOL.

[ecapatto]

Nice vid, good job. I agree with kuei, MasterCAM have limitations, but even with this limitations you did the job very well.

[elrobinio]

That is one small integrex. As far as i can tell it's even smaller then a multiplex. The integrexes i used to operate were huge; you could have a party in them!

[InsanityHere]

Amazing control. Incredible finese. That's as fine an example as I've ever seen. By the way, what the heck is it?

[douro20]

It's either a statue or a trophy. It's so expensive, though, to machine one of these that it would not be cost effective to market them as machined pieces.

[Nasty0suicide]

wow thats alot of wasted material. I heard those cylinderical metal blocks are quite expensive

[hacksaw116]

But the consistency of the material is more uniform than any alternative.

[upchunk22]

yeah mastercam sucks on a integrex, we use it for our mills but we only run esprit on the integrex's its a little more complex but it works great on these machines...if you can get your damn posts to work right!, integrexs heads are weak though, we have 5 integrexs in our shop- we're swapping them out and getting mori seki's- thats where its @!

[bakedtoperfection]

@upchunk22 Mori's are where it's at I run two Sl-250 and NL 1500 8000 rpm on main spindle, sick. Glass scales:)

[kuei1248]

This video shows the limitations of Mastercam's multi tasking and 3d milling capabilities compared with other programming packages like Edgecam and Gibbscam. Other packages would have done 2 things. Rotate the c-axis instead of traveling along the y-axis to maintain consistent cutting around the tool edge. And rotate the b-axis to obtain optimum cutting angle along the larger diameter of the tool instead of trying to cut on the center of the tool for better tool life and better finish. Sorry MC

[DEVISPRINCI]

Anche MasterCam puo' lavorare con asse c-b insieme ho scelto questo tipo di movimento per evitare vibrazioni e mantenere piu stabile il pezzo purtropoo dal video non si capiscono le dimensioni del particolare lavorato.Ciao e grazie per aver guardato il video.

[kuei1248]

Sorry, can't read that language.

[duffyfunk]

Mastercam also can 'work together with ironing cb I chose this type of movement to prevent vibration and maintain a more stable piece purtropoo the video does not understand the dimensions of the particular lavorato.Ciao and thanks for watching the video.

[kuei1248]

That's exactly what i got with the translation from igoogle. Cool huh?

[avongil]

@kuei1248 You can use a 5x toolpath to angle the B and machine this in other ways. This is just a very simple way of programing the part.

[xdxxdy]

@kuei1248

you can do it in mastercam too, the funtion to use is the 4 axis substitution or the advanced 5 axis, spiroidal machining in 5 axis is equal for cimatron gibbscam solidcam camworks hsmworks mastercam edgecam and other. they all use the 5 axis calculation made in germany

[xdxxdy]

minus axis that you move than better the dimensional precision will be, so good video. remember 5 axis are usefull if you have to avoid collision if you can keep the rotary axis off the speed and errors will be reduced.

[mark8driver]

@kuei1248 This is not so true. Mastercam does offer many dynamic toolplane features to be used with four and five axis machines. It is obvious that the programmer chose to implement only two toolplanes for this project, not really sure why. I know for a fact that Mastercam will let you set a lead/lag angle on the cutting tool as it revolves a part during 4 axis machining.

[vckiter]

@kuei1248 Agreed, but you should have mentioned ESPRIT in your comment. ESPRIT handles machines like this better than any other CAM software today.

[MegaCabCummins6]

@kuei1248 Have to agree about Mastercam, we used to use Catia and the programs were much smoother, now our programs are jerky and less effcient, not to mention they beat the hell out of our machines...

[xpazzomattox]

spettacolo !!!

[corsaestrema]

minchia se gusta vedere gli integrex lavorare...spettacolo

[guruguru144]

cant believe im doing this in school. hope fully i can win a medal in the world skills competition! ^^

[facethepain81]

what Kind of CAD/CAM software haveyou use for this??

[Speedy2222]

Mastercam

[guruguru144]

mastercam

[facethepain81]

thx!

[sssbob]

if this was being made out of a casting you would have some serious work holding issues due to the odd shape of the part, not to mention a lot of chatter cuz it's so skinny.i think this is the best compromise.

[srmaietta]

I love to watch this stuff... But that's alot of wasted brass, something like this should be cast..

[PeteZ28]

What if it's a one or two part run? The casting molds have to come from somewhere you know.

[srmaietta]

yes I know, thanks.

[gtokuno]

not at all, there are many companies that buy the wasted material. I live in Brazil and have a CNC machine + router lol.. so i use metal and wood in my work... but wood is not that easy to sell... they buy for firestarter

[alan2999]

it is a shame, super multi axis Machine and software under use. really simple work

[DEVISPRINCI]

E' un vero peccato che dal filmato non si intuascano peso e dimensioni del particolare.Forse qualcuno non ha capito che la lavrazione eseguita in questo moo e' stata fatta per ottenere la massima rigidita' possibile dalla macchina.

[alan2999]

I am a bit away of my Italian, but what you say is that you are keeping the machine method at its maximum rigidity.Hope Mazak is not watching, because they will be very UPSET.machine you are showing is a top of the line, I sell these machines in Europe.and Master Cam, I am a 3d master designer with a Diploma at Mcam USA. Congrats you show the best in the market for Machinning. but you just need to show the Italian desings made in a more fantastic way.Show your real skills in machining.

[DEVISPRINCI]

Io non ho nessuna laurea o master ma lavoro sulle macchine utensili da quando avevo 10 anni.Mi stupisco delle tue affermazioni visto le tue qualifiche.Dire che lavorare un pezzo di 120kg lungo 400 mm su un Integrex e' una cosa sbagliata mi lascia un po' perplesso sopratutto non penso di offendere Mazak sostenendo le sue doti di rigidita'.

Dimenticavo il pezzo che vedi e' frutto di una creazione artistica e non di un disegno tecnico.

[nate1248]

Where's the coolant???

[TheMSvids]

The contour is machined line by line. That's yesterdays technology. They loose a lot of time. It looks spectacular but is is not. How about the thermical stability of the milling head?All in one, can not be efficient.

[joseph8779]

Fantastic, is it machining copper. The strategy is correct which machines from the weakest point.

[mecaniserch]

Pretty amazing

[douro20]

Does this machine's controller use constant velocity?

[excav8or]

I could watch machining videos all day, amazing. can i get one to put in the garage and just make 'stuff' ? LOL

[hyujkokozy]

Expensive resource just for making trophies lol

[Botswanac]

Second song is Alan Parsons Project - Pipeline

[catenacci1979]

Complimenti, anche io lavoro su un 5 assi ma non come questo, mamma mia e che tipo di programma è stato impostato..? un mazatrol penso

[DEVISPRINCI]

Grazie

No e' un programma iso da cad cam caricato su HD.

[ydna2]

I was going to give this video 5 starts after only watching a minute of it. Great video!

[exphx]

I knew this sound and searched my whole music database after it. But unfortunately i just have some modern version of this track called: "Lost Lynx - Seasons" Just search on youtube and you find it. But it is by far not as good as this one :-(

[feki00]

Hi, the original track is Alan Parsons- Mammagamma, it has plenty of remixes and i agree, the original is the best.

[Emyemgaa]

Tolle Programierung und super ausführung Thumbs up. Die Musik ist auch geil wie sind die titel, weis das jemand.. Grüße aus Cologne Germany

[textex9]

a dir poco stupendo

[jerrdead]

yeah, Mazak is the best!!!!!!! I worked on 400Y, doin the cam and crank-shafts for renault F1 (for alonso at the time:)

Great !!! machines!!!

[douro20]

I'd like to know the name of the tune being played.

[feki00]

Its Alan Parsons- Mammagamma.

[pimpmydogSE]

What's the name of the camware for making this?

[kawasakikillerr]

mastercam