fuck apathy for playing a hand in making aotp drop kamachi. aotp is turning into shit too much apathy & celph might aswell be demi godz. need more des devious & faez one... i miss stoupe, the new beats vinnie paz uses just aren't as good.. dont think either are the best i rate them the same, apathy is a veretan.
@westbeach24 naw he's dissing apathy only because apparently he sent him two emails to try and make a track but apathy never replied....sounds stupid cause it kind of is
Kamachi is who he is because of AOTP. Really, as far as this beef goes, he's the only one to diss anyone and make a diss song. If you read the actual interviews, he ousted himself from the group. He wasn't kicked out, he just started taking shots at Vinnie for not getting enough stage time and saying Apathy wasn't listening to his beats.
So really, Kamachi's a bitch. Little punk drama queen that wants more attention.
Kamachi's a bitch, he's only had some decent lines in any AOTP song, and his rap flows are erratic. He was wrong to beef with AOTP, nobody does that shit. Ever hear about 50 or Game dissing AOTP? No. Because everyone knows that Pharaoh Clique aint nothin to fuck with.
@Somefrostybeverage Lol 50 or Game probably have never heard of AOTP. Kamachi just demonstrated that it was a mistake to oust him from the group. Yeah he definitely didn't put out his best on THE TWO AOTP CDS HE WAS ON, but if you've heard his verse on Heads Ar Tails, you know he can keep up with all of them.
@Somefrostybeverage Chief Kamachi might not be a show-off with flips and turns and intricate rhymes but he's true game, a real rapper and apathy just a fuckin comedian. Nice techniques at times but he ain't got SHIT on kamachi. Plus, chiefs a founding member, deserves nothing but respect. I enjoy vinnie paz' rhymes and style and dude seems like he got heart but he shouldn't have fired kamachi. dumb move
@warcloud463 Yeah, in juju mob, the production couldn't enhance or back his rap up like it did in AOTP, for example, in Gun Ballad and Swords Drawn his spitting was top notch. I think he was the best or at least second best motherfucker in that joint, and in the group as a whole, and aotp made him a better mc it seems. Don't get me wrong, I love his own shit and juju mob, but I'll always see him as a pharaoh. I stand for that, aotp should ask to take him back and he should agree.
@NYRangers9995 He's still a bitch for biting the hand that fed him. And though we are talking about underground rappers here, have you seen how poorly Kamachi's newest album is doing? He's redundant, still using the same lines from five years ago, "the black messiah, opening the clouds, up the chapel stairs" It's like an underground Lil' Wayne
Good riddance, Kamach doesnt even stand strong with the rest of the AOTP mc's. if anything he held them down and messed up the flow of all the songs he was feautured on from the Torture Papers and Ritual. Glad hes strictly doing his solo shit now. this fools the cry baby NOT Apathy.
HAHAHAHHAAHAH apathy better then kamachi? hahahahhahaa masterchief u made fuckin dumb, and celph? sure hes killed a couple songs but he acts like hes hott shit and he rly aint, jus allah reef and kamachi hold AOTP down
he wasn't on The Torture Papers cause he was working with shit with Bomshot......but he was on Ritual Of Battle...check the songs Blue Steel.. Though Blood By Thunder...Drama Theme.....Ohh and and the original AOTP track
@YoungDirtyCwalk AOTP made him though don't shit on the hand that fed. He needs to remember Vinnie Paz introduced him to us. Especially here in Europe.
@edgetiq look, first of all, check the date of the comment before replying, it's kinda stupid replying to a comment that's been made a year ago
but anyway, Kamach said they left as friends, he's grateful to vinnie cause he helped him a lot, but, I don't know the exact words, he said that it was time to fly solo, leave the nest and get it on his own or something
i think its mad stupid to see them beefin but i dont know what its about so im not going to say no more then that..but for yall sayin kamachi aint got lyrics, are you serious? or you just bigger fans of paz an shit?...give props when there due when it comes to skills.
kamachi has always been beast and i like the 300 beat,but hows he gonna talk shit, lyricly i dont think he is as strong as apathy or celph,sounds like a cry for attention to me.
haha, never liked him when he was with AOTP and now this takes the cake... Honestly this is horrible. None of them even need to respond to this cause he demonstrates how bad his lyrical capabilities are...
Damn Kamachi, you go from being a guy that was very respected to being a little bitch, even worse brother is the fact that you are trying to play the race card. Hopefully you or someone who knows you reads this, you know the screenname. Remember son, when no black groups wanted you, it was Vinny Paz that put you on his cds. Don't bite the hand that fed you.
@undergroundicon ''Playing the race card'' is a simple excuse that non-blacks use whenever they discriminate and get caught doing it. We don't know anything about him and Apathy so for all we know Apathy might've said something about black people that angered Kamachi. Either way your pretty hypocritical, here you are claiming that Kamachi is just ''playing the race card'' but you dragged race into it in your own comment so obviously him playing the card was justified.
@KhemAndKurami What a funny post. You're calling me a hypocrite for bringing race into it then you assumed I'm a non-black who is talking about the race card? Read your shit before you post it. Apathy didn't say anything about Kamachi. He was pissed because Ap bumped him off the new AotP lineup and Ap said it on the new AotP album, "like that kid that tried to diss me, now he's history". That is being a bitch to try and diss someone just because they fit on an album better than he did.
@KhemAndKurami Also, I like Kamachi in JuJu Mob, I don't like him in AotP he's trying to be to serious in AotP. In JuJu Mob with Reef, he sounds good, my comments on this have went way back even on the other video of this song where I said I like Kamachi as a rapper. I just don't like men who cry about other men getting something they wanted. Don't you think that kills his whole gangster persona?
@undergroundicon No matter how ''gangster'' you are, a man can still have feelings and show them. Oh so that's why he was angry? Well what if it was a racially motivated choice? Which brings us back to the point...we weren't really there on that certain location or time so nothing is sure.
@KhemAndKurami A man can have all the feelings he wants, express them face to face to the person he has those emotions towards, but when he runs out and makes a "diss" song it seems a little weak. Maybe that's me and maybe it's that I did respect Kamachi enough to expect more from him than that. If it was a racially motivated choice, you get over it, that's life.
@undergroundicon Nah you don't get over it, you fight it. If you could empathise a little bit more and try to relate to somebody and think what if it was you in his shoes, you might understand why he attacked him if it was a racially motivated choice. Obviously since your not black yourself and thus you might not feel oppressed with your little empathy for blacks you simple say ''they should get over it'' but if it was your own people you might've reacted the same way he did.
@KhemAndKurami I can see this is getting nowhere. If it was my people? Racism exists because of separation of people by skin pigment and you're now guilty of helping it exist. I'm Latino/Samoan, I know plenty about oppression. As do the Native Americans who are still being oppressed, but they're not using it as an excuse to insult others. Saying "fight it" and asking for "empathy" is a blatant contradiction. If someone fights you do you offer them empathy? Didn't think so.
@undergroundicon Who said that they are fighting your people? So your question was pretty stupid. Your whole statement was irrelevant to this discussion. If some guy said ''well you know what you can't be on our CD because you're Samoan.'' How would you react? If you would just accept that it shows a broken spirit and if so then I feel sorry for you. Your pretty hypocritical because your first statement was seperating humans by skin pigment so you can't even judge me haha.
@KhemAndKurami No one judged you, it was a broad generalization, something a 19 year who claims to like debating should be able to understand. If I were to guess you're a white kid from the suburbs who is in freshman year debate class at a community college. That's me judging you on what you've written here.
@undergroundicon Nah it was a judgment to me. You can believe otherwise though. I hope you understand my point...if you have nothing to say anymore I will end this discussion.
@undergroundicon Are you an artist? if you are which im guessing you are, just say it to him in person. I doubt he will notice this one little comment ya know? peace.
so you gonna tell me demoz,king mag,and doap is better,look no disrespect to them but none of them can fuck with Cult Status,COncrete gospel or Beautiful minds
fuck apathy for playing a hand in making aotp drop kamachi. aotp is turning into shit too much apathy & celph might aswell be demi godz. need more des devious & faez one... i miss stoupe, the new beats vinnie paz uses just aren't as good.. dont think either are the best i rate them the same, apathy is a veretan.
HappyBirthdaySANTA 2 weeks ago
Skilled but an asshole.
Orthodox72 2 months ago
he dissing tech 9 people
chiefer6969 8 months ago
@chiefer6969 your a fucking idiot hes dissing aotp
westbeach24 4 months ago
@westbeach24 ap is in aotp so it is a ap diss to some extent
christophemillertime 2 months ago
@westbeach24 naw he's dissing apathy only because apparently he sent him two emails to try and make a track but apathy never replied....sounds stupid cause it kind of is
NateJames1 1 month ago
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mike4333 1 month ago
@chiefer6969 actually he´s dissing apathy
BDNProduction 1 month ago
godzilla track. but i refuse to listen to little punk bitches. way to fuck up a golden opportunity kamachi.
TWITCH772 10 months ago
Kamachi is who he is because of AOTP. Really, as far as this beef goes, he's the only one to diss anyone and make a diss song. If you read the actual interviews, he ousted himself from the group. He wasn't kicked out, he just started taking shots at Vinnie for not getting enough stage time and saying Apathy wasn't listening to his beats.
So really, Kamachi's a bitch. Little punk drama queen that wants more attention.
Somefrostybeverage 10 months ago
Kamachi's a bitch, he's only had some decent lines in any AOTP song, and his rap flows are erratic. He was wrong to beef with AOTP, nobody does that shit. Ever hear about 50 or Game dissing AOTP? No. Because everyone knows that Pharaoh Clique aint nothin to fuck with.
Somefrostybeverage 11 months ago
@Somefrostybeverage Lol 50 or Game probably have never heard of AOTP. Kamachi just demonstrated that it was a mistake to oust him from the group. Yeah he definitely didn't put out his best on THE TWO AOTP CDS HE WAS ON, but if you've heard his verse on Heads Ar Tails, you know he can keep up with all of them.
EffectProduction0 11 months ago
@Somefrostybeverage Chief Kamachi might not be a show-off with flips and turns and intricate rhymes but he's true game, a real rapper and apathy just a fuckin comedian. Nice techniques at times but he ain't got SHIT on kamachi. Plus, chiefs a founding member, deserves nothing but respect. I enjoy vinnie paz' rhymes and style and dude seems like he got heart but he shouldn't have fired kamachi. dumb move
NebraskaDoom 11 months ago
You guys are idiots,
He's dissing on tech9
bnksykillz 1 year ago
@bnksykillz really? u read that in an interview?
syrantherapper 10 months ago
@bnksykillz thts wut i said lol
dejavu1328 10 months ago
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NebraskaDoom 1 year ago
KAMACHI is a fuckin beast
dax544 1 year ago
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NebraskaDoom 1 year ago
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NebraskaDoom 1 year ago
@NebraskaDoom he should get back with them? what are you talking about fool?
warcloud463 1 year ago
@warcloud463 Yeah, in juju mob, the production couldn't enhance or back his rap up like it did in AOTP, for example, in Gun Ballad and Swords Drawn his spitting was top notch. I think he was the best or at least second best motherfucker in that joint, and in the group as a whole, and aotp made him a better mc it seems. Don't get me wrong, I love his own shit and juju mob, but I'll always see him as a pharaoh. I stand for that, aotp should ask to take him back and he should agree.
NebraskaDoom 1 year ago
Write all the shit you want about Kamachi being a little bitch, this is one of the illest diss tracks ive heard. kamachi is a fucking beast
NYRangers9995 1 year ago
@NYRangers9995 kamachi is dirty rotten, legend status. that said, apathy is killing everything. they're both fucking dope as shit
RMacTFF 1 year ago
@NYRangers9995 He's still a bitch for biting the hand that fed him. And though we are talking about underground rappers here, have you seen how poorly Kamachi's newest album is doing? He's redundant, still using the same lines from five years ago, "the black messiah, opening the clouds, up the chapel stairs" It's like an underground Lil' Wayne
undergroundicon 1 year ago
he is good, apathy is better
Br0ly100 1 year ago
kamachi = a less interesting freddie foxxx
agricola 1 year ago
hate all you want, Kamachi is a beast.
hands down.
i dont know apathy or kamachi personally but regardless you can not hate on this skill
LORDLHUS 1 year ago 8
@LORDLHUS real talk
killuminadi777 1 year ago
Good riddance, Kamach doesnt even stand strong with the rest of the AOTP mc's. if anything he held them down and messed up the flow of all the songs he was feautured on from the Torture Papers and Ritual. Glad hes strictly doing his solo shit now. this fools the cry baby NOT Apathy.
blondedncr23 1 year ago
thats what im sayin
how is this a diss in anyway?
hes just talkin shit not to anyone specific
who got spikey hairs
who's daddy daycare?
hes just talkin bout some lame fucks actin like they thug
OOZiTen 1 year ago
i don't agree with him dissin ap but it's pretty sick...
BoeMoney 1 year ago
ok so why is he dissin apathy
MrLoverofhiphop 1 year ago
wow he's dissing apathy, and he used a recycled line from an aotp track
linkinparkMikeShinod 2 years ago
THIS IS NOT A DISS ON AOTP!
Lor3nzo89 2 years ago
its only a diss to apathy
masterfreestyler187 2 years ago
no its not!! kamach has said numerous times this is not a diss
Lor3nzo89 2 years ago
fools a beast on the mic
anyone who doesnt see that probably doesnt understand the art of hiphop
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Lizzygreenblatt 2 years ago
Apathy or Cheif Kamachi?
Tough one but Kamachi is the shit
1BigBadBoi 2 years ago
baythagod, according to there myspace, he is
camthekilla252 2 years ago
AOTP- celph,ES,apathy and crypt are better- Demigodz bitch
RickySpencer420 2 years ago
HAHAHAHHAAHAH apathy better then kamachi? hahahahhahaa masterchief u made fuckin dumb, and celph? sure hes killed a couple songs but he acts like hes hott shit and he rly aint, jus allah reef and kamachi hold AOTP down
camthekilla252 2 years ago
jus allah aint in aotp..
baythagod 2 years ago
yeah he is,,,,,,hahahahahahaha....
Swdn45 2 years ago
since when.!? he wasnt on either of the 2 albums......
baythagod 2 years ago
he wasn't on The Torture Papers cause he was working with shit with Bomshot......but he was on Ritual Of Battle...check the songs Blue Steel.. Though Blood By Thunder...Drama Theme.....Ohh and and the original AOTP track
Swdn45 2 years ago
good lookin out... I will..
baythagod 2 years ago
Say what?
He's on 5 tracks on The Tortue Papers:
Battle Cry
Henry The 8th
All Shall Perish
Narrow Grave
King Among Kings
Proftys 2 years ago
jus allah dumbass........................
Swdn45 2 years ago
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jus allah dumbass.......................
Swdn45 2 years ago
PFFT, You must be clingin onto this nigga's balls. His voice and delivery is rough and his rhymes are good but CELPH MURKS.
TCM666 2 years ago 5
hope there is a reply, just because both sides have a bunch of talent
IAMSO619 2 years ago
Warning shot - Doap Nixon Feat AOTP
zooko2k7 2 years ago
that not a Chief Kamachi diss
Swdn45 2 years ago
This track is sick, I don't care about his beef with AOTP he's still a beast on the mic.
KillerBod101 2 years ago
well... I've read his interview, Ap's respond interview
nd I think all the shit he talks about Ap are fake... just to mock him a bit... but I do agree with him leaving AOTP, it's better for him
YoungDirtyCwalk 3 years ago 11
wheres the apathy interiview
rapmastajap 2 years ago
just google someting like: apathy kamachi repluy interview
I don't know... I got it by using google so it should work for you, too =]
YoungDirtyCwalk 2 years ago
@YoungDirtyCwalk AOTP made him though don't shit on the hand that fed. He needs to remember Vinnie Paz introduced him to us. Especially here in Europe.
edgetiq 1 year ago
@edgetiq look, first of all, check the date of the comment before replying, it's kinda stupid replying to a comment that's been made a year ago
but anyway, Kamach said they left as friends, he's grateful to vinnie cause he helped him a lot, but, I don't know the exact words, he said that it was time to fly solo, leave the nest and get it on his own or something
YoungDirtyCwalk 1 year ago
@YoungDirtyCwalk I wasn't really replying to you more making the point that when this came out everyone thought he was going at AoTP.
edgetiq 1 year ago
@edgetiq well, then why did you click the reply button at my comment... plus, reading your comment you also thought he was going at aotp lol
YoungDirtyCwalk 1 year ago
this is a hot song,kamachi will be missed in aotp.....will be interesting if theres a reply that be dope as fuck
runningboob 3 years ago 2
The beef is mainly about that Chief never was on a AOTP nor JMT show.
Absombada 3 years ago 2
i seen him come here when the 1st aotp album dropped..
baythagod 2 years ago
shit the beef is probably over the last album ritual of battle.
meth0xd 3 years ago
kant believe this shit...
kamach was raw in AOTP and him a Vinnie tore it up together...
its all Apathy's dumbass fault...
fuck AP!
SEURone 3 years ago
AOTP FOR LIFE
Justvik88Skinz 3 years ago 2
i think its mad stupid to see them beefin but i dont know what its about so im not going to say no more then that..but for yall sayin kamachi aint got lyrics, are you serious? or you just bigger fans of paz an shit?...give props when there due when it comes to skills.
mattosteez 3 years ago 2
i try and find shit about what the beef is about but i havent found anything yet so what the fuck happened.
cino9 3 years ago
Damn, what went wrong Deer Hunter?
NeverAntiquated 3 years ago 2
fuckin up..............
Swdn45 3 years ago
nice track.. but dissin aotp fuck that
TerrorSquad120 3 years ago
kamachi has always been beast and i like the 300 beat,but hows he gonna talk shit, lyricly i dont think he is as strong as apathy or celph,sounds like a cry for attention to me.
masterchief941 3 years ago 2
haha, never liked him when he was with AOTP and now this takes the cake... Honestly this is horrible. None of them even need to respond to this cause he demonstrates how bad his lyrical capabilities are...
QueLub 3 years ago
Damn Kamachi, you go from being a guy that was very respected to being a little bitch, even worse brother is the fact that you are trying to play the race card. Hopefully you or someone who knows you reads this, you know the screenname. Remember son, when no black groups wanted you, it was Vinny Paz that put you on his cds. Don't bite the hand that fed you.
undergroundicon 3 years ago 18
@undergroundicon true say bro!
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
@undergroundicon ''Playing the race card'' is a simple excuse that non-blacks use whenever they discriminate and get caught doing it. We don't know anything about him and Apathy so for all we know Apathy might've said something about black people that angered Kamachi. Either way your pretty hypocritical, here you are claiming that Kamachi is just ''playing the race card'' but you dragged race into it in your own comment so obviously him playing the card was justified.
KhemAndKurami 1 year ago
@KhemAndKurami What a funny post. You're calling me a hypocrite for bringing race into it then you assumed I'm a non-black who is talking about the race card? Read your shit before you post it. Apathy didn't say anything about Kamachi. He was pissed because Ap bumped him off the new AotP lineup and Ap said it on the new AotP album, "like that kid that tried to diss me, now he's history". That is being a bitch to try and diss someone just because they fit on an album better than he did.
undergroundicon 1 year ago
@KhemAndKurami Also, I like Kamachi in JuJu Mob, I don't like him in AotP he's trying to be to serious in AotP. In JuJu Mob with Reef, he sounds good, my comments on this have went way back even on the other video of this song where I said I like Kamachi as a rapper. I just don't like men who cry about other men getting something they wanted. Don't you think that kills his whole gangster persona?
undergroundicon 1 year ago
@undergroundicon No matter how ''gangster'' you are, a man can still have feelings and show them. Oh so that's why he was angry? Well what if it was a racially motivated choice? Which brings us back to the point...we weren't really there on that certain location or time so nothing is sure.
KhemAndKurami 1 year ago
@KhemAndKurami A man can have all the feelings he wants, express them face to face to the person he has those emotions towards, but when he runs out and makes a "diss" song it seems a little weak. Maybe that's me and maybe it's that I did respect Kamachi enough to expect more from him than that. If it was a racially motivated choice, you get over it, that's life.
undergroundicon 1 year ago
@undergroundicon Nah you don't get over it, you fight it. If you could empathise a little bit more and try to relate to somebody and think what if it was you in his shoes, you might understand why he attacked him if it was a racially motivated choice. Obviously since your not black yourself and thus you might not feel oppressed with your little empathy for blacks you simple say ''they should get over it'' but if it was your own people you might've reacted the same way he did.
KhemAndKurami 1 year ago
@KhemAndKurami I can see this is getting nowhere. If it was my people? Racism exists because of separation of people by skin pigment and you're now guilty of helping it exist. I'm Latino/Samoan, I know plenty about oppression. As do the Native Americans who are still being oppressed, but they're not using it as an excuse to insult others. Saying "fight it" and asking for "empathy" is a blatant contradiction. If someone fights you do you offer them empathy? Didn't think so.
undergroundicon 1 year ago
@undergroundicon Who said that they are fighting your people? So your question was pretty stupid. Your whole statement was irrelevant to this discussion. If some guy said ''well you know what you can't be on our CD because you're Samoan.'' How would you react? If you would just accept that it shows a broken spirit and if so then I feel sorry for you. Your pretty hypocritical because your first statement was seperating humans by skin pigment so you can't even judge me haha.
KhemAndKurami 1 year ago
@KhemAndKurami No one judged you, it was a broad generalization, something a 19 year who claims to like debating should be able to understand. If I were to guess you're a white kid from the suburbs who is in freshman year debate class at a community college. That's me judging you on what you've written here.
undergroundicon 1 year ago
@undergroundicon Nah it was a judgment to me. You can believe otherwise though. I hope you understand my point...if you have nothing to say anymore I will end this discussion.
KhemAndKurami 1 year ago
@undergroundicon
where is the race card? he's better off without them. hes better off working with priest than any of his former associates.
mjoseph1 1 year ago
@undergroundicon Are you an artist? if you are which im guessing you are, just say it to him in person. I doubt he will notice this one little comment ya know? peace.
siifarr 8 months ago
@undergroundicon nigga fuck you! You cant understand that Chief is best and you better give some respect son!!! Biiaattcchh!
mi25ke 6 months ago
what he fkin sick not the weakest the best 1 out there in aotp
lesinge11 3 years ago
This is the hottest shit I've ever heard from Kamach, I always thought he was the weakest member of AOTP anyway.
Keethsteel 3 years ago
who u think strongest?
cmoncas99 3 years ago
so you gonna tell me demoz,king mag,and doap is better,look no disrespect to them but none of them can fuck with Cult Status,COncrete gospel or Beautiful minds
landshark08 3 years ago 3
The strings in tha beat are sikkk
SHADOWONUS 3 years ago
Dope!!!...
Word!!!...
AbbottSupreme 3 years ago
WTF?!
necron0micon 3 years ago
i was surprised after hearin dis n readin the interview
some of his best verses r on the AotP albums in my opinion =/
FiswaT 3 years ago
where can i read trhe interview?
danegurous 2 years ago