Ah, these reductionist evolutionary scientists, always trying to find a genetic answer for everything. Perfect pitch is not something genetic but something that any musician can develop with the right training. A study shows that Chinese young musicians more often have perfect pitch than American ones. Genetic? No, the answer most likely lies in the fact that the Chinese language is a more singing, more tonal language than English. Therefore, environmental factors also have their say.
I do not think perfect pitch is genetic either. First, it took me four years to develop PP. I started playing piano when I was seven and my teacher tested me when I was eight and I didn't have it. But by the time I was eleven, I could clearly distinguish notes. Second, I am the only person in my extended family that is even slightly musically talented.
It is awesome that you can do that man!! but perfect pitch is not only "recognizing notes" but it is also the ability to tell what key songs you hear are being played on, the ability to improvise 100 accurate without being told what chords would be and the ability to compose. Naming notes wouldn't do anything, and I don't consider that to be a "great talent." Perfect pitch for me is to be able to compose, improvise and name notes. And yet, it does not guarantee technique to play, practices do
@elabanico135 Another thing that perfect pitch is very useful in is learning how to play a song without actually playing a song. For example, to figure out a piece of music for piano, you can just listen to the music, process which pitch is which note, and which key on the piano it is. You can learn the music before you even play a note of it!
@elabanico135 Interesting! I have this ability, too - I can name notes without reference - but I believe it is partly genetic and is definitely enhanced by "training." Also, in order to be able to identify notes and keys one does after all have to have *some* knowledge of musical theory in order to be able to express the answer!
it's statistically interesting that 1 in 10,000 people have perfect pitch and yet most of the kids commenting here are claiming to have it. It becomes slightly, erm.. unbelievable. It's also odd how strong the reaction is to the idea that PP has a genetic base. It obviously does, and the gene(s) are currently being isolated. A quick search on the web will get you the info on that research.
@khasab I know what you mean about all the false claims. I'm not sure if you'l believe me, but I do have it. I don't believe it is genetic, however. Telling the difference between notes is as easy as telling yellow and blue apart; and I think thats how I acquired it. When i was younger, myy mom was always quizzing me about what pitch was what whilst music was playing. I believe i was taught to distinguish notes, as how almost everyone is taught to distinguish colors.
@BoboVicus I believe you if you say you have perfect pitch but if it was as easy as learning colours we would all have it and we haven't. Also it is a genetically inherited characteristic even if you decide not to accept that fact. They are currently isolating the genes involved.
@khasab I think it is just as easy as learning colors. The thing is, barely anyone is TAUGHT to tell the difference between pitch. We learn to distinguish colors at a very young age, as I was bought by my mom at a very young age to distinguish different pitch. What if almost everyone learned pitch at a young age, and no one was taught the difference in color?
@BoboVicus does anyone else in your family have PP? How about your mom? why was she quizzing you all the time? Maybe it was to see if you had inherited a family trait, PP?
@khasab says who? She thinks she acquired it through learning to play the piano at a young age. She wanted me to be able to do the same thing, so she taught me how to play the piano and had me practice learning notes. I don't see how its possible to be born with it. You don't even learn your alphabet by heart till about 5 or 6 years.
@BoboVicus do you read ALL of my comments or just the first few words. It is known to be genetic THEY HAVE FOUND THE GENES INVOLVED. How can you say "I don't see how its possible to be born with it" ? You may as well say you don't see how it's possible to be born with arms or curly hair or the ability to roll your tongue ! all these things are genetic. People can think whatever.they want, that doesn't make it true. They used to think the world was flat, but it isn't, PP is genetic.
@Mage3337 I know what you mean, its as easy as telling colors apart! But the people that can't do it are amazed because it is so rare! roughly 1 in 10,000 people have it, which means that there's only 700,000 people in the world of 7 billion that have it!
@khasab - you sound very salty, detecting a little jelousy?
If you play a c# i can't tell you what that note is for shit, because i have dont have an idea what a c# is. I never anchored any sound to any learned expression. I can pick that note out of 97 notes, improvise a song out of it, play the major/minor scales etc but taking the time to anchor the sounds to learned letters (ie accepted musical score) and learn that just isn't my style ;) sorry, but AP is obtainable before learning score.
@MrJ3ly You see that is what AP is. Someone plays a note or a bunch of notes and you can tell them exactly what it / they are. If you can't do that you don't have AP
@MrJ3ly I wouldn't be jealous because I am quite happy having relative pitch which is , in practical terms, more useful than perfect pitch. I am also 100% certain that you can't learn perfect pitch but that it is a hereditary trait.
being experienced in music myself, don't blow perfect pitch out of proportion, if you know anything about music you know there are a LIMITED amount of PITCHES, 12 chromatic tones! really anyone can obtain this, analyzing four part harmony, or more, is much more complex, yet it has basic roots...i.e. major, minor, intervals,, stick to the facts, and the facts say a reasonable person can capacitate\distinguish pitch, and start finding unique ways to distinguish pitch and it will only get better
if i can differentiate whether the notes are black or white keys on piano, without being able to know exactly wad note is it, does it count as some kind of perfect pitch?
@jsommers15 somebody has it in your family. either you dont know them or they didnt know what it was and developed it or had no intrest in music. the narrator said it can be lost around 4:24.
i met some my uncles and aunts (mom's side) this summer for the 1st time in 35 years and i finally got to see where the music and art side of me came from although no one in my immediate family growing up was into music.
I have perfect pitch :) one day we were getting our piano tuned, I was too young for me to remember, but apparently he was playing chords and I added notes onto the end of the chords/scales. :D
Hmm, if perfect pitch is genetic, what about those who have it that are not musicians? I mean, if it is genetic then it wouldn't matter if the person who has it is a musician. I don't have perfect pitch but I teach elementary music and my relative pitch is improving b/c I play the ukulele-so GCEA are now embedded in my ear. But what if you weren't a musician, would you just know that certain tones match other tones? Just a thought...
I think PP is a throw back to early human development when humans communicated with series of noises rather than spoken language. Therefore they needed PP to understand each other. ie a grunt for example would mean something depending on the pitch of the grunt. As humans developed language this function was no longer necessary. Just a thought...
I have perfect pitch too, and let me tell ya, it's both a blessing and a curse. Whether it's a note on any instrument, voice, or even a machine like a car motor, or the ringing in my ear, or anything, I know exactly what note it is, and whether it's a quarter tone flat or sharp. Now you may think it's cool, but to be honest, it can be VERY annoying to have. Every time something is even just a quarter tone or so off, it gives you a HUGE headache, like a dog hearing a dogwhistle.
@cowhyde72 AND, everybody hates you. I'm VERY humble and non-chalant about it, and I hear that most with perfect pitch are, because if you correct people all the time, you're known as the douche bag with perfect pitch that people are jealous of. Transposing music is also HELL. When you learn a piece, all you hear in your head is the original key. You hear the notes more than the melody, and changing them is like trying to balance a fork on an eyelash.
My sister and I both have perfect pitch but only for instruments for which i am familiar with. I can tell what note it is for the piano and violin since i play those instruments and also the viola, cello, and bass because I play in an orchestra and they sound so similar. But I usually can't tell what a note is if it is sung... although I wonder if I could if I started choir.
I read in a music psychology book entitled "Musicophillia" that 1 in 10,000 have perfect pitch. I'm one of the lucky few to have it and it's amazing how uncommon it is because I know people who are way more musically talented than me who have trouble identifying pitches. A wise quote the book said is, "The question is not why few people have it, but why it is not universal."
You can train yourself to become perfect pitch. You can train your vocal chords to make C as something you can produce with your voice at any random time. Your vocal muscles will 'memorise it', just like any other muscle can memorise a certain action you train it to, (i.e. how your lips are placed in a certain way when whistling). From there you can recognise any other note, just by working it out. It worked for me, it just takes practice...
@lostlov30 yes but that's muscle memory not perfect pitch it's almost the same but people with perfect pitch aren't taught and can identify the pitch of every day sounds
I have absolute pitch and I'm 18 years old. My entire life I had no idea that what I had was a mental phenomenon. It truly intrigues me. I'm a musician and I use this skill every day of my life.
@DzankiPedu Hmm...I'm trying to follow the entire song, but it has a LOT of chord changes. It's in the key of G and starts out in G Minor. From about 0:20 to 0:43 in that video, the chord changes are about as followed:
Gm, D7, Gm, G/F, F, Bb, Eb, F, Bb, C7, D
It seems like the main phrase of this song that is constantly being brought back to goes:
Eb, Bb, Eb, Bb, Eb, A7, D7
Ive never heard this kinda music so its hard to follow. Message me with questions :) I love to help out a fellow musician.
so when a kid is able to identify pitch of any sound, without any effort of remembering tones or notes in piano, does it mean that most likely that the kid has a talent of perfect pitch?
Well, that means the kid starts developing perfect pitch (subconsciously), but there's a way to do it consciously.
And in my opinion, its not like you have to be born with perfect pitch. Its just a matter of careful listening.. In my opinion every musician can develop it.
I don't know why people think that only musicians with proper genes can develop perfect pitch. Absolute pitch is just a matter of listening. Nobody has even proved that perfect pitch is about genes. These are just rumours.
I suggest you all to search for a perfect pitch course on google. With a little bit of guidance, I'm pretty sure every musician can develop it.
No, its not genetic. Its just ability to recognize pitch colours, its not a big deal. I never wasted my money. If i didn't grab David Lucas Burges course I'd probably never expirience perfect pitch.
@Bartekdex Well I'm sorry but everyone has known it's an hereditary trait for a long time and now the geneticists are starting to find the evidence for it, There's plenty of info on this on the web, . They won't let me post a URL here but here's a quote from one article
" ...three University of California, San Francisco scientists reported on-line in The American Journal of Human Genetics the discovery of a genetic region on human chromosome eight that is linked to perfect pitch"
@Bartekdex well I will have to say that either you had perfect pitch already (which isn't likely as you would have known it), or...you haven't developed perfect pitch. Basically, can you sit with your back to a piano while someone plays notes and chords at random, and tell them which note(s) you hear? And be you 100% accurate? because that is what perfect pitch is. These guys have it --> /watch?v=69fFZ9v6fG4 and this kid /watch?v=nzSZGX5gx_8
I'm 100% accurate. I had never had perfect pitch before, I developed it with help of David Lucas Burge.
And by the way, It is mentioned in Burges course that there's a slight chance of fail, but how I said it is slight. Like 3%, I don't remember exactly how much was it. Anyway, perfect pitch isn't a genetic thing, its merely "colour hearing" which can be developed quite easily.
@Bartekdex well you haven't answered my question have you? which suggests that the answer is 'no, you can't do those things'. Did you look at the videos I suggested? They are people who really have PP. You can clearly see how different and unique it is. Now honestly, I don't mind what people believe, If you want to believe genes aren't involved that's fine by me but you are up against virtually all musicians and all geneticists. It's a bit like insisting the world's flat.
"I'm 100% accurate" - You just have to read more carefully, that was my answer to your question. You have to pay attention to details. Yes I can sit back to my piano and someone plays chords or single notes and i recognize them easily, compeltely effortless. You've never said if you had perfect pitch?
@Bartekdex I can read perfectly well thank you, You have to be clearer in your writing. No I don't have perfect pitch. I have relative pitch which is more useful, And I never will have PP because it's a genetic inherited ability which cannot be learnt. I think we should leave it there don't you? We aren't going to agree because I will never believe a person can develop PP. If I ever change my mind on it I'll let you know.
@Bartekdex I agree we should leave it but I offer you a challenge: You say you never had PP and you have learnt it. well make a video for us to prove it,
It's not very difficult , at least to prove you now have PP ( a bit more difficult to prove you never had it before the course). The video has to show you clearly unable to see the keys of a piano/keyboard while someone plays random notes and chords in random keys and you name them all accurately. Then I'll believe ( that you have PP) ok?
Well, first of all I don't have any device to record a video at the moment. Second, I don't see any point of proving that I have perfect pitch. In my opinion, my word and thousands of others words are good enough to prove that Burges course works.I have no reason to lie to anybody since the course is available to DOWNLOAD on the internet. Anyway, I'll try to make a video when I get my Iphone, but not at the moment.
Absolute pitch has nothing to do with genetics! I have got it proved on myself. Recently, I grabed a great absolute pitch Vocal Couch course, which explained me everything. YOU CAN DEVELOP IT - NO GENES NEEDED.
@Bartekdex There's never been any scientific proof that an adult has been able to learn perfect pitch.
Either you were born with it, and it was never recognised at an early age, or you're trying to scam youtubers out of money.
" Researchers have been trying to teach absolute pitch ability in laboratorys for more than a century, and various absolute-pitch courses have been offered to the public since the 1900s. No adult has ever been documented to have acquired absolute listening ability"
You can't just LEARN perfect pitch. You have to understand it. You need to know how to listen. Thats all, thats the secret. And with little bit of piano drills and guidance everyone can develop it.
There's never been any scientific proof that an adult hasn't been able to learn perfect pitch.
( And btw, I'm not adult yet, I'm like 16?)
The course I'm talking about is David Lucas Burge's Course. I suggest You to google it and see it for yourself. There's a money back guarantee.
@Bartekdex So the fact that no adult has been able to learn it under scientist supervision since the 1900s isn't scientific proof? That's like saying there's no scientific proof that psychics don't exist.
If you're 16 it's even more likeyl that you may have been born with perfect pitch and not realised it.
From what I've read about this course it sounds to me that candidates are learning by memory and reference. That isn't perfect pitch.
I'm not sure If i was born with perfect pitch. If I was, this course helped me realise it.
Well, there's a lot of opinions about perfect pitch courses. The course helped me, my opinion is positive, If you guys are interested in developing perfect pitch, You can try David Lucas Burge's course.
No, Its not like you remember all pitches. You just instinctively know what pitch is being play. Its hard to explain it.. But David Lucas Burge explains it pretty well.
I don't like that they equate perfect pitch with talent. I know lots of people who have perfect pitch but aren't really talented. It helps, sure, but it's not synonymous with talent.
@colourfulwithaU Exactly, all these courses make people feel like they can't be good musicians without it when many musicians don't have perfect pitch
There is nothing wrong with these courses. Some people - like me - wish to develop perfect pitch. It's extraordinarily helpful with everything from analysis and composition to tuning. It may not make you a better musician, but it is really convenient.
Having absolute pitch is like a language accent. If you are exposed to say British accent a lot, before the age around 10, you can speak perfect British accent. That's why you see immigrants that can't speak in a good accent while the child can. Same concept.
Well, for one thing, to have perfect pitch, you first need to know what the notes are called. Even if you "have" perfect pitch, if you won't be able to identify the note names if you don't know what it's called.
So I think everyone with perfect pitch has "some" training.
when will these biologists grow up and finally admit that genes do not dictate what you have and not have. God bruce lipton already proved this wrong when he did his experiment on lactose intolerant cells (that evolved and become tolerant). anyone can learn absolute pitch, it just takes training like all other things. This is as dumb as claiming theres a gene for bad driving.
when will these biologists grow up and finally admit that genes do not dictate what you have and not have. God bruce lipton already proved this wrong when he did his experiment on lactose intolerant cells (that evolved and become tolerant). anyone can learn absolute pitch, it just takes training like all other things. This is as dumb as claiming theres a gene for bad driving.
@Igneous01 everyone can learn absolute pitch, that's true, but how do you explain that there are people who can do it without training at all and other people, who can't do it after 2 years of practise? And last but not least, evolution is change of genetic factors, isn't it?
@agro0 youre right. i am 16 and i play the violin, and i think that helped me know which notes were which throughout the years, but when i was younger, it never really occured to me that every song i sang was always in the right key that it was supposed to be in when i was singing with no music. i can easily tune my violin and i help my dad tune his guitar and i can sing any note or tell you what a note is if one is played and ive never had perfect pitch lessons ever
@LifeOfAubrey you don't need one. It is a genetic thing if you have AP then you have it, If you don't then you never can. That being said , most people have relative pitch which is more useful,
@Igneous01@Igneous01 everyone can learn absolute pitch, that's true, but how do you explain that there are people who can do it without training at all and other people, who can't do it after 2 years of practise? And last but not least, evolution is change of genetic factors, isn't it?
@khasab its a bogus study. 29 People were tested, which is not enough to statistically claim that people with a certain gene perform worse when driving then those without. They are also not taking into account other such things as distractions from life (sickness in the family, relationship, bills, etc) anything of that sort can easily effect concentration when performing this test. The study claims too big a generalization about this gene and driving. There are more factors involved then this.
OHYEAH, Never let a teacher be your main tool of intonation. For instance, at times I can practice upto 14 hours in 1 day. I only see my teacher for a lesson maybe 2 times a month for an hour each session. If I choose to depend on my teacher for intonation I would be introuble!!!! Needless to say I am very critical and observant of my practicing (this too was learned).
Intonation is a thing of habbit, just like excellence in anything else. If you always play out of tune, you will always play out of tune. If you always rush, you are likely to rush. If you play choppy rhythms, you will probably have a choppy rhythm. If you practice slowly, precisely, intune, study the correct rhythm, dynamics & ect you are likely to do just that, and infact you will be able to do it faster and faster with more and more hardwork, not talent. =3 good luck!!!
I use to tune my violin with a tuner to 440. One day I started to tune it without the tuner, needless to say at first I was a little bit flat but of course I would turn the tuner on and tune to he standrd 440. Then I stopped thinking about what finger I was using and started paying attention to things like "It's a G# onthe A string with a B on the E string" rather than "High 3 in 4th position on A string and a 1on the E string". Gradually I have become perfectly intune... with hardwork.
Everyone has PP. It's just the ones who have it severly undeveloped may never put forth the required effort to fully utilize it. Relative pitch is SOOOO close to PP that it's rediculous in some sense. Never settle for relative pitch, keep your eye on the prize(unless you favor relative pitch). Teachers often put forth more effort in teaching fingerings and what not. So instead of playing a C, lets say you're playing a 3 & ect so you develope rapid finger motion rather than ear fluency.
i have discovered that, by practicing and paying very close attention to detail, it is possible to develop perfect pitch. i have done it, and so has one of my friends at school. people just expect perfect pitch to appear magically. well it doesn't! in my opinion, young children often develop it simply because their view differs from ours making their experience of music and sounds special hence, giving them the possibility to learn from the get go how to recognize sounds specifically.
um I can recognize notes, but also is someone says fa#, i can sing it correctly. i can also tune guitars correctly. do i have absolute or perfect pitch or none?
Or i was born with this ability and i just exercise it now, or any one CAN learn it, it just needs the right way to learn it. Thats all, personaly i believe everyone can learn it. Thats all i had to say, keep trying and find the way, don;t buy programs it is stupid, just exercise it from your mind and only.
dudes, as a child i didn;t had any musical education, i decided to be a musician from the age of 13 and i definately didn;t had perfect pitch because i was pitchy. I sat and I exercise in the age of 20 and within a week the basic notes I was remember them in my head, I was doing solfege in my head, for few weeks, now after whole year that i stop for health reasons, i still remember the notes correctly.
Perfect Pitch is generally described as being able to tell what a note is by just hearing it. After playing violin for 8 years, my ears have become truly accustomed to the color of what an 440 A is. If I hear a note, I can tell you what it is based on my 440 A. Yes if something was flat or sharp compared to that 440 A, I may be somewhat dumbfounded. But generally, I can do it easily.
@Metroidkill Incorrect. Relative pitch suggests you are able to tell intervals from a single pitch. But the difference between what I said before and what I have said now is that I literally can just sing or tell a 440 A when ever I feel like it. Pulling a pitch out of thin air is perfect pitch.
@Rpkist77 Pulling a pitch out of thin air is not perfect pitch, that's just a result of having perfect pitch. But it's also possible to recall notes without perfect pitc. For example, I can restring a guitar and tune it without any reference note, and have it exactly in tune when checking it with a tuner. But I don't have perfect pitch at all, I can't recognize notes from a musical piece. I just remember what the guitar sounds like when it's in tune.
OMG, this research is bogus. How would this research benefit society to find a gene for perfect pitch? and How on earth is this lady getting funded for this?? It better not come from the NIH, such a waste of tax dollar money if it did.
There was a women in the audience at one of my high school orchestra concerts who had perfect pitch. She came waltzing up to the conductor during the performance, tugs on his pants and says, "One of the flutes is sharp."
"The only thing I know about absolute pitch, or perfect pitch as it is sometimes called, is that I don't have it." Hahahahaha - makes me smile every time.
Pitch is arbitrary. Society has agreed that the note A is factors and multiples of 440. This is why perfect pitch is useless. Relative pitch, however, is very useful, because it gives insight into less arbitrary musical aspects.
Let's also not forget that every person with perfect pitch should cringe at the sound of keyboard music, because of temperament issues.
Finally, I never read about Bach having perfect pitch. Is that a real fact, or did the producer pull it out of his hat?
@b0ttomzone pitch isn't arbitrary the naming is. I could call the note A an elephant, but it still sounds the same. so you are utterly wrong when you say perfect pitch is useless.
@MrNewmaneh No, pitch is definitely relative. If your entire piano was retuned 20 cents sharp, you could play the same music and it would sound just as good. Yet people with so-called "perfect pitch" could not even listen to this music without cringing? That is obscenity. There is no "perfect pitch gene." It comes from extensive musical training on a 12 tone equal tempered piano. And that's all.
@MrNewmaneh That's where I don't understand. The notes can't be "sharp" unless there's something to compare it with. If its being compared with the standard piano tuning, what makes that tuning inherently correct?
@MrNewmaneh Perfect pitch would allow you to recognize a given note as an A. Relative pitch would allow you to identify its harmonic function. Is it a leading tone to Bflat? Or is it a chord seventh, wanting to resolve down to G? Or perhaps it's the mediant in F-sharp minor, or maybe even the tonic in A? A person with relative pitch can assign musical purpose to a given note, but a person with perfect pitch can only point out the note. Relative pitch separates the sheep from the goats.
@MrNewmaneh You are correct on that. It is possible to have both perfect pitch and good relative pitch. However if two people have relative pitch and one of them has perfect pitch, the only advantage that the perfect pitch person would have is the ability to identify the key of a given piece of music, which is not very revealing. A piece of music will carry the same emotive content, whether it's written in C major or F-sharp major.
@b0ttomzone The only exception to all keys sounding alike is in the case of nonequal temperaments; one of the keys might sound more in tune than the other. However, we rarely hear music in nonequal temperaments.
By the way, this is another flaw to the perfect pitch theory: A person with perfect pitch, having a sense of pure frequency ratios in their genes, should recognize that all intervals on a piano(except 8ve) are slightly out of tune. But this silly video says nothing about temperaments.
@b0ttomzone Temperaments don't matter to people with perfect pitch, and yes, we do recognise that all intervals on most intruments are out of tune by necessity - we can cope with this! People with perfect pitch can identify "approximately an A" - I'm not sure if it's A=440Hz we carry around as reference or not, I've never tested it, but I can be confused by an instrument that is very flat. Relative pitch gets in the way of PP sometimes.
Was this "scientific" project a tax dodge for Pfizer? Absolutely no serious input whatsoever concerning the genetic basis of perfect pitch, just a few boffins shaking test tubes with a little incidental piano music. How many people for instance develop perfect pitch despite having no access to a musical instrument in their early childhood nor any musical training involving exposure to fixed pitches that are named? What a brainless presentation of a potentially interesting idea!
There's not such myth. Any of us can tell differences in frequency. It's just another myth to boost "Learn-Perfect-Pitch-In-10-Days" merchandising...
@rockinjesse03 I thought it was 15,000? Anyway, I don't know if you can call it a gift. Some people find it really disturbing. I think if you have mastered a way of turning your perfect pitch on/off in your brain then I can agree with you.
Ive started testing myself for absolute pitch, I started yesterday and today I can sing any MAJOR note and name it without any help whatsoever, (ill be composing songs in Am and C in my head for a long while)?
Is this absolute pitch, I should have them all by tomorrow... just didnt seem that hard really???
Does anyone think it's possible to TRAIN yourself to pick out specific pitches? Think about this: lets say you use a program which will generate a C note or a G note randomly, and you have to decide what pitch the program generated. Assume you can eventaully answer correctly more than %90 of the time, and thusly add an additional note into the selection. Does anyone think this would make it possible to "hard-wire" yourself to have absolute pitch (despite it not being natural and genuine)?
lol sometimes my perfect pitch can be a distraction for example when my professor is speaking I start analyzing the different notes of his voice and making up compositions and b4 i know it i've already zoned out through half the lecture
I recommend anyone without perfect pitch to listen to an individual tone and try to describe what the tone feels like, do it 5-10mins a day with different tones and I swear, if you just do that routine in a week and you will see results :) My teacher taught me this and he has perfect pitch to identify the tone of your fart :D And by the way, don't rush it, your ear isn't a muscle you train to get stronger, 5-10mins max.
@sysdftpnk sadly i have to disagree in my opinion. i feel that music is something your born with. you either have it or you dont. not everyone is born into music, and very few people have perfect pitch. unless your saying that every not everyone is born with it, and those people must still practice. i was assuming that you meant everyone is born with perfect pitch, because of your reference to swimming
@TheSinginggod well, everyone is born with the ability to "awaken" their perfect pitch, as everyone is born with the ability to recognize shapes or colors, it's just that we don't learn to distinguish tones like we learn to distinguish colors since we are young, but it's as easy as that when you are a child, when you grow older, it kinda gets harder, and I have to disagree on this one with you from personal experience, by practicing for a month I'm now able to distinguish any natural note.
@sysdftpnk i see your point. i never thought of it that way. i wasnt really born into music, i just had it. and i have friends who dont have it. so i assumed that you either have it or you dont. but i do believ that if you dont hone it in your very early years, its almost impossible to get it when you get older
@TheSinginggod yeah, like I said, it gets harder as you age, or maybe I was born with it, as none of my classmates (I study music) have had that kind of progress by the first month of college, and well I train my ear quite differently, as I train by hearing notes and learning tone by tone, opposed to what my school teaches which is to recognize intervals, a practice which I refuse, 'cause I think it just messes up your ear.
@sysdftpnk Recognizing intervals messes up your ear? I'm all for listening to the tone of the note -- the properties besides timbre, highness/lowness, etc. that make each note unique -- but I think a development of perfect and relative pitch can coexist.
They've got 99 problems, but a pitch ain't one!
YuhStoopid 2 days ago
Ah, these reductionist evolutionary scientists, always trying to find a genetic answer for everything. Perfect pitch is not something genetic but something that any musician can develop with the right training. A study shows that Chinese young musicians more often have perfect pitch than American ones. Genetic? No, the answer most likely lies in the fact that the Chinese language is a more singing, more tonal language than English. Therefore, environmental factors also have their say.
lindmusik 1 month ago
Does anybody find it strange that they were talking about Mozart while the pianist played Chopin?
MrMkbw 1 month ago
@MrMkbw no
zzzzzzzzzz202 1 month ago
I do not think perfect pitch is genetic either. First, it took me four years to develop PP. I started playing piano when I was seven and my teacher tested me when I was eight and I didn't have it. But by the time I was eleven, I could clearly distinguish notes. Second, I am the only person in my extended family that is even slightly musically talented.
chazman222 2 months ago
It is awesome that you can do that man!! but perfect pitch is not only "recognizing notes" but it is also the ability to tell what key songs you hear are being played on, the ability to improvise 100 accurate without being told what chords would be and the ability to compose. Naming notes wouldn't do anything, and I don't consider that to be a "great talent." Perfect pitch for me is to be able to compose, improvise and name notes. And yet, it does not guarantee technique to play, practices do
elabanico135 1 month ago
@elabanico135 Another thing that perfect pitch is very useful in is learning how to play a song without actually playing a song. For example, to figure out a piece of music for piano, you can just listen to the music, process which pitch is which note, and which key on the piano it is. You can learn the music before you even play a note of it!
BoboVicus 1 month ago
@elabanico135 Interesting! I have this ability, too - I can name notes without reference - but I believe it is partly genetic and is definitely enhanced by "training." Also, in order to be able to identify notes and keys one does after all have to have *some* knowledge of musical theory in order to be able to express the answer!
Pearlaceous 1 month ago
it's statistically interesting that 1 in 10,000 people have perfect pitch and yet most of the kids commenting here are claiming to have it. It becomes slightly, erm.. unbelievable. It's also odd how strong the reaction is to the idea that PP has a genetic base. It obviously does, and the gene(s) are currently being isolated. A quick search on the web will get you the info on that research.
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab I know what you mean about all the false claims. I'm not sure if you'l believe me, but I do have it. I don't believe it is genetic, however. Telling the difference between notes is as easy as telling yellow and blue apart; and I think thats how I acquired it. When i was younger, myy mom was always quizzing me about what pitch was what whilst music was playing. I believe i was taught to distinguish notes, as how almost everyone is taught to distinguish colors.
BoboVicus 2 months ago
@BoboVicus I believe you if you say you have perfect pitch but if it was as easy as learning colours we would all have it and we haven't. Also it is a genetically inherited characteristic even if you decide not to accept that fact. They are currently isolating the genes involved.
khasab 2 months ago
@khasab I think it is just as easy as learning colors. The thing is, barely anyone is TAUGHT to tell the difference between pitch. We learn to distinguish colors at a very young age, as I was bought by my mom at a very young age to distinguish different pitch. What if almost everyone learned pitch at a young age, and no one was taught the difference in color?
BoboVicus 2 months ago
@BoboVicus does anyone else in your family have PP? How about your mom? why was she quizzing you all the time? Maybe it was to see if you had inherited a family trait, PP?
khasab 2 months ago
@khasab She does, but she claims that she's losing her sense of it, as she hasn't been involved with music as often as she used to be.
BoboVicus 2 months ago
@BoboVicus Well there you go. You see, it's a genetically inherited characteristic.
khasab 2 months ago
@khasab says who? She thinks she acquired it through learning to play the piano at a young age. She wanted me to be able to do the same thing, so she taught me how to play the piano and had me practice learning notes. I don't see how its possible to be born with it. You don't even learn your alphabet by heart till about 5 or 6 years.
BoboVicus 2 months ago
@BoboVicus do you read ALL of my comments or just the first few words. It is known to be genetic THEY HAVE FOUND THE GENES INVOLVED. How can you say "I don't see how its possible to be born with it" ? You may as well say you don't see how it's possible to be born with arms or curly hair or the ability to roll your tongue ! all these things are genetic. People can think whatever.they want, that doesn't make it true. They used to think the world was flat, but it isn't, PP is genetic.
khasab 2 months ago
I still don't understand why people are so amazed by this gift. I've had it as long as I can remember, and to me it's just how things are.
Mage3337 3 months ago
@Mage3337 I understand you completely. I having it as well see only one benefit, being able to tune my cello without having to take out my tuner.
jsommers15 3 months ago
@Mage3337 I know what you mean, its as easy as telling colors apart! But the people that can't do it are amazed because it is so rare! roughly 1 in 10,000 people have it, which means that there's only 700,000 people in the world of 7 billion that have it!
BoboVicus 2 months ago
@khasab - you sound very salty, detecting a little jelousy?
If you play a c# i can't tell you what that note is for shit, because i have dont have an idea what a c# is. I never anchored any sound to any learned expression. I can pick that note out of 97 notes, improvise a song out of it, play the major/minor scales etc but taking the time to anchor the sounds to learned letters (ie accepted musical score) and learn that just isn't my style ;) sorry, but AP is obtainable before learning score.
MrJ3ly 3 months ago
@MrJ3ly no just telling it like it is
khasab 3 months ago
@MrJ3ly You see that is what AP is. Someone plays a note or a bunch of notes and you can tell them exactly what it / they are. If you can't do that you don't have AP
khasab 3 months ago
@MrJ3ly I wouldn't be jealous because I am quite happy having relative pitch which is , in practical terms, more useful than perfect pitch. I am also 100% certain that you can't learn perfect pitch but that it is a hereditary trait.
khasab 3 months ago
@JamesOnPiano yes there is because relative pitch is more impotant, and most of us have that,
khasab 3 months ago
being experienced in music myself, don't blow perfect pitch out of proportion, if you know anything about music you know there are a LIMITED amount of PITCHES, 12 chromatic tones! really anyone can obtain this, analyzing four part harmony, or more, is much more complex, yet it has basic roots...i.e. major, minor, intervals,, stick to the facts, and the facts say a reasonable person can capacitate\distinguish pitch, and start finding unique ways to distinguish pitch and it will only get better
drwaxmax 3 months ago
if i can differentiate whether the notes are black or white keys on piano, without being able to know exactly wad note is it, does it count as some kind of perfect pitch?
SupErBigxGulP 3 months ago
@SupErBigxGulP no, There is no "kind" of perfect pitch. you either have it or you don't.
khasab 3 months ago
I don't really think AP is genetic. I have it and nobody else in my family does.
jsommers15 4 months ago
@jsommers15 somebody has it in your family. either you dont know them or they didnt know what it was and developed it or had no intrest in music. the narrator said it can be lost around 4:24.
i met some my uncles and aunts (mom's side) this summer for the 1st time in 35 years and i finally got to see where the music and art side of me came from although no one in my immediate family growing up was into music.
jondough7777777 3 months ago
@jsommers15 genetics are more complex than that. it can be a recessive gene that comes out in certain circumstances.
khasab 3 months ago
I have perfect pitch :) one day we were getting our piano tuned, I was too young for me to remember, but apparently he was playing chords and I added notes onto the end of the chords/scales. :D
MrJ3ly 4 months ago
@MrJ3ly Your story is not proof of AP. If you have AP I can play a note ( ex. c# ) and you tell me what note (c#) it is,
khasab 3 months ago
Hmm, if perfect pitch is genetic, what about those who have it that are not musicians? I mean, if it is genetic then it wouldn't matter if the person who has it is a musician. I don't have perfect pitch but I teach elementary music and my relative pitch is improving b/c I play the ukulele-so GCEA are now embedded in my ear. But what if you weren't a musician, would you just know that certain tones match other tones? Just a thought...
jfro69 4 months ago
I think PP is a throw back to early human development when humans communicated with series of noises rather than spoken language. Therefore they needed PP to understand each other. ie a grunt for example would mean something depending on the pitch of the grunt. As humans developed language this function was no longer necessary. Just a thought...
PathToAscention 4 months ago
I have perfect pitch too, and let me tell ya, it's both a blessing and a curse. Whether it's a note on any instrument, voice, or even a machine like a car motor, or the ringing in my ear, or anything, I know exactly what note it is, and whether it's a quarter tone flat or sharp. Now you may think it's cool, but to be honest, it can be VERY annoying to have. Every time something is even just a quarter tone or so off, it gives you a HUGE headache, like a dog hearing a dogwhistle.
cowhyde72 4 months ago
@cowhyde72 AND, everybody hates you. I'm VERY humble and non-chalant about it, and I hear that most with perfect pitch are, because if you correct people all the time, you're known as the douche bag with perfect pitch that people are jealous of. Transposing music is also HELL. When you learn a piece, all you hear in your head is the original key. You hear the notes more than the melody, and changing them is like trying to balance a fork on an eyelash.
cowhyde72 4 months ago
My sister and I both have perfect pitch but only for instruments for which i am familiar with. I can tell what note it is for the piano and violin since i play those instruments and also the viola, cello, and bass because I play in an orchestra and they sound so similar. But I usually can't tell what a note is if it is sung... although I wonder if I could if I started choir.
ayuan227 5 months ago
@ayuan227 Interesting. I don't have PP, but I oftern recall some piece of music when I hear some sound with short constant pitch.
dante4d 4 months ago
I read in a music psychology book entitled "Musicophillia" that 1 in 10,000 have perfect pitch. I'm one of the lucky few to have it and it's amazing how uncommon it is because I know people who are way more musically talented than me who have trouble identifying pitches. A wise quote the book said is, "The question is not why few people have it, but why it is not universal."
bandeelover 5 months ago
1:29 . did he just say Roy BOGUS? haha what a funny name.
theinck 6 months ago
You can train yourself to become perfect pitch. You can train your vocal chords to make C as something you can produce with your voice at any random time. Your vocal muscles will 'memorise it', just like any other muscle can memorise a certain action you train it to, (i.e. how your lips are placed in a certain way when whistling). From there you can recognise any other note, just by working it out. It worked for me, it just takes practice...
lostlov30 7 months ago
@lostlov30 yes but that's muscle memory not perfect pitch it's almost the same but people with perfect pitch aren't taught and can identify the pitch of every day sounds
L3emonzz 7 months ago
@L3emonzz i agree.
jondough7777777 6 months ago
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lostlov30 7 months ago
may i know the name of the song in 1:22 please?
snowychu1121 8 months ago
@snowychu1121 Revolutionary Etude Op.10 No.12 by Chopin
YSFmemories 8 months ago
I have absolute pitch and I'm 18 years old. My entire life I had no idea that what I had was a mental phenomenon. It truly intrigues me. I'm a musician and I use this skill every day of my life.
lukerosstheboss1 9 months ago
@lukerosstheboss1 Man,can you please help me.
I wanna play some song,but i can't hear the chords,and you have absolute pitch,can you tell me chords of this song at least from 0:20 to 1:20
watch?v=ahy4Ty3hKrw
i will be so grateful,that's nothing dificult for you,and for me,days,and days of searching and torturing. :) :(
DzankiPedu 8 months ago
@DzankiPedu Hmm...I'm trying to follow the entire song, but it has a LOT of chord changes. It's in the key of G and starts out in G Minor. From about 0:20 to 0:43 in that video, the chord changes are about as followed:
Gm, D7, Gm, G/F, F, Bb, Eb, F, Bb, C7, D
It seems like the main phrase of this song that is constantly being brought back to goes:
Eb, Bb, Eb, Bb, Eb, A7, D7
Ive never heard this kinda music so its hard to follow. Message me with questions :) I love to help out a fellow musician.
lukerosstheboss1 8 months ago
@ blehface3000 and @Bartexdex:
so when a kid is able to identify pitch of any sound, without any effort of remembering tones or notes in piano, does it mean that most likely that the kid has a talent of perfect pitch?
cooljansen 9 months ago
@cooljansen
Well, that means the kid starts developing perfect pitch (subconsciously), but there's a way to do it consciously.
And in my opinion, its not like you have to be born with perfect pitch. Its just a matter of careful listening.. In my opinion every musician can develop it.
Bartekdex 9 months ago
@Bartekdex no it's genetic
khasab 3 months ago
I don't know why people think that only musicians with proper genes can develop perfect pitch. Absolute pitch is just a matter of listening. Nobody has even proved that perfect pitch is about genes. These are just rumours.
I suggest you all to search for a perfect pitch course on google. With a little bit of guidance, I'm pretty sure every musician can develop it.
Bartekdex 9 months ago
@Bartekdex I suggest you don't waste your money
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab
No, its not genetic. Its just ability to recognize pitch colours, its not a big deal. I never wasted my money. If i didn't grab David Lucas Burges course I'd probably never expirience perfect pitch.
Bartekdex 3 months ago
@Bartekdex Well I'm sorry but everyone has known it's an hereditary trait for a long time and now the geneticists are starting to find the evidence for it, There's plenty of info on this on the web, . They won't let me post a URL here but here's a quote from one article
" ...three University of California, San Francisco scientists reported on-line in The American Journal of Human Genetics the discovery of a genetic region on human chromosome eight that is linked to perfect pitch"
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab
So how to you explain the fact that I expirienced perfect pitch right after listening to Burges course ?
Bartekdex 3 months ago
@Bartekdex well I will have to say that either you had perfect pitch already (which isn't likely as you would have known it), or...you haven't developed perfect pitch. Basically, can you sit with your back to a piano while someone plays notes and chords at random, and tell them which note(s) you hear? And be you 100% accurate? because that is what perfect pitch is. These guys have it --> /watch?v=69fFZ9v6fG4 and this kid /watch?v=nzSZGX5gx_8
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab
I'm 100% accurate. I had never had perfect pitch before, I developed it with help of David Lucas Burge.
And by the way, It is mentioned in Burges course that there's a slight chance of fail, but how I said it is slight. Like 3%, I don't remember exactly how much was it. Anyway, perfect pitch isn't a genetic thing, its merely "colour hearing" which can be developed quite easily.
Bartekdex 3 months ago
@Bartekdex well you haven't answered my question have you? which suggests that the answer is 'no, you can't do those things'. Did you look at the videos I suggested? They are people who really have PP. You can clearly see how different and unique it is. Now honestly, I don't mind what people believe, If you want to believe genes aren't involved that's fine by me but you are up against virtually all musicians and all geneticists. It's a bit like insisting the world's flat.
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab
"I'm 100% accurate" - You just have to read more carefully, that was my answer to your question. You have to pay attention to details. Yes I can sit back to my piano and someone plays chords or single notes and i recognize them easily, compeltely effortless. You've never said if you had perfect pitch?
Bartekdex 3 months ago
@Bartekdex I can read perfectly well thank you, You have to be clearer in your writing. No I don't have perfect pitch. I have relative pitch which is more useful, And I never will have PP because it's a genetic inherited ability which cannot be learnt. I think we should leave it there don't you? We aren't going to agree because I will never believe a person can develop PP. If I ever change my mind on it I'll let you know.
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab
I also have a great relative pitch which makes an incredible combo with perfect pitch.
You're right, let's just leave it. We'll never agree.
Bartekdex 3 months ago
@Bartekdex I agree we should leave it but I offer you a challenge: You say you never had PP and you have learnt it. well make a video for us to prove it,
It's not very difficult , at least to prove you now have PP ( a bit more difficult to prove you never had it before the course). The video has to show you clearly unable to see the keys of a piano/keyboard while someone plays random notes and chords in random keys and you name them all accurately. Then I'll believe ( that you have PP) ok?
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab
Well, first of all I don't have any device to record a video at the moment. Second, I don't see any point of proving that I have perfect pitch. In my opinion, my word and thousands of others words are good enough to prove that Burges course works.I have no reason to lie to anybody since the course is available to DOWNLOAD on the internet. Anyway, I'll try to make a video when I get my Iphone, but not at the moment.
Bartekdex 3 months ago
Absolute pitch has nothing to do with genetics! I have got it proved on myself. Recently, I grabed a great absolute pitch Vocal Couch course, which explained me everything. YOU CAN DEVELOP IT - NO GENES NEEDED.
Bartekdex 10 months ago
@Bartekdex learning it is the same as using a reference for pitch, it doesn't mean you have learnt perfect pitch.
People who learn this skill use the revision of past keys they've heard to identify a pitch.
Try listening to a washing machine and picking out a pitch, you struggle because you've never heard any washing machine "notes" before.
Perfect pitch is already knowing pitches, even with unfamiliar instruments.
blehface3000 9 months ago
@blehface3000
You're talking about relative pitch.(And By the way, I have a great relative pitch) We're not talking about relative pitch here.
We're talking about absolute pitch, color hearing, knowing the notes without a referance.
Ive never even mentioned anything about a reference in my previous comment.. I know what is absolute pitch.
And by the way: I had already tried listening to every item in my house before you commented. My washing machine sound is G.
And No, I never struggle.
Bartekdex 9 months ago
@Bartekdex There's never been any scientific proof that an adult has been able to learn perfect pitch.
Either you were born with it, and it was never recognised at an early age, or you're trying to scam youtubers out of money.
" Researchers have been trying to teach absolute pitch ability in laboratorys for more than a century, and various absolute-pitch courses have been offered to the public since the 1900s. No adult has ever been documented to have acquired absolute listening ability"
blehface3000 9 months ago
@blehface3000
You can't just LEARN perfect pitch. You have to understand it. You need to know how to listen. Thats all, thats the secret. And with little bit of piano drills and guidance everyone can develop it.
There's never been any scientific proof that an adult hasn't been able to learn perfect pitch.
( And btw, I'm not adult yet, I'm like 16?)
The course I'm talking about is David Lucas Burge's Course. I suggest You to google it and see it for yourself. There's a money back guarantee.
Bartekdex 9 months ago
@Bartekdex So the fact that no adult has been able to learn it under scientist supervision since the 1900s isn't scientific proof? That's like saying there's no scientific proof that psychics don't exist.
If you're 16 it's even more likeyl that you may have been born with perfect pitch and not realised it.
From what I've read about this course it sounds to me that candidates are learning by memory and reference. That isn't perfect pitch.
blehface3000 9 months ago
@blehface3000
I'm not sure If i was born with perfect pitch. If I was, this course helped me realise it.
Well, there's a lot of opinions about perfect pitch courses. The course helped me, my opinion is positive, If you guys are interested in developing perfect pitch, You can try David Lucas Burge's course.
No, Its not like you remember all pitches. You just instinctively know what pitch is being play. Its hard to explain it.. But David Lucas Burge explains it pretty well.
Bartekdex 9 months ago
@Bartekdex BS
khasab 3 months ago
"Babies adore Mozart."
Then he starts playing Chopin.
What?
colourfulwithaU 10 months ago
I don't like that they equate perfect pitch with talent. I know lots of people who have perfect pitch but aren't really talented. It helps, sure, but it's not synonymous with talent.
colourfulwithaU 10 months ago
@colourfulwithaU Exactly, all these courses make people feel like they can't be good musicians without it when many musicians don't have perfect pitch
blehface3000 9 months ago
@blehface3000
There is nothing wrong with these courses. Some people - like me - wish to develop perfect pitch. It's extraordinarily helpful with everything from analysis and composition to tuning. It may not make you a better musician, but it is really convenient.
colourfulwithaU 9 months ago
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Moh1Z 10 months ago
that bitch probably wants that genes for herself
TheOneWhoLived 10 months ago
Im naked.
fyourcouchnigga 11 months ago
@fyourcouchnigga your comment made me laugh
jamesmanortiz 10 months ago
I agree with dreadjoker10
DJDhananjayK 11 months ago
i hope they also know that people can develop perfect pitch without need of genetics
dreadjoker10 11 months ago
@dreadjoker10 everything start with genetics
MrDanielMajid 10 months ago
Having absolute pitch is like a language accent. If you are exposed to say British accent a lot, before the age around 10, you can speak perfect British accent. That's why you see immigrants that can't speak in a good accent while the child can. Same concept.
Messuduppotatoasia 11 months ago
Well I have that talent, how can I train to improve it for chords or more than two notes?
pezozy123 11 months ago
@pezozy123 Google Prolobe.
Moh1Z 10 months ago
Well, for one thing, to have perfect pitch, you first need to know what the notes are called. Even if you "have" perfect pitch, if you won't be able to identify the note names if you don't know what it's called.
So I think everyone with perfect pitch has "some" training.
YSFmemories 11 months ago
why was that bitch singing opera in a lab?
wallpaperkilla 1 year ago
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when will these biologists grow up and finally admit that genes do not dictate what you have and not have. God bruce lipton already proved this wrong when he did his experiment on lactose intolerant cells (that evolved and become tolerant). anyone can learn absolute pitch, it just takes training like all other things. This is as dumb as claiming theres a gene for bad driving.
Igneous01 1 year ago
when will these biologists grow up and finally admit that genes do not dictate what you have and not have. God bruce lipton already proved this wrong when he did his experiment on lactose intolerant cells (that evolved and become tolerant). anyone can learn absolute pitch, it just takes training like all other things. This is as dumb as claiming theres a gene for bad driving.
Igneous01 1 year ago
@Igneous01 everyone can learn absolute pitch, that's true, but how do you explain that there are people who can do it without training at all and other people, who can't do it after 2 years of practise? And last but not least, evolution is change of genetic factors, isn't it?
agro0 1 year ago
@agro0 youre right. i am 16 and i play the violin, and i think that helped me know which notes were which throughout the years, but when i was younger, it never really occured to me that every song i sang was always in the right key that it was supposed to be in when i was singing with no music. i can easily tune my violin and i help my dad tune his guitar and i can sing any note or tell you what a note is if one is played and ive never had perfect pitch lessons ever
LifeOfAubrey 1 year ago
@LifeOfAubrey you don't need one. It is a genetic thing if you have AP then you have it, If you don't then you never can. That being said , most people have relative pitch which is more useful,
khasab 3 months ago
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@Igneous01 @Igneous01 everyone can learn absolute pitch, that's true, but how do you explain that there are people who can do it without training at all and other people, who can't do it after 2 years of practise? And last but not least, evolution is change of genetic factors, isn't it?
agro0 1 year ago
@Igneous01 go to science daily dot com "Bad Driving May Have Genetic Basis, Study Finds"
khasab 3 months ago
@khasab its a bogus study. 29 People were tested, which is not enough to statistically claim that people with a certain gene perform worse when driving then those without. They are also not taking into account other such things as distractions from life (sickness in the family, relationship, bills, etc) anything of that sort can easily effect concentration when performing this test. The study claims too big a generalization about this gene and driving. There are more factors involved then this.
Igneous01 3 months ago
@Igneous01 :) I was joking with you that's all, Don't take it so seriously
khasab 3 months ago
OHYEAH, Never let a teacher be your main tool of intonation. For instance, at times I can practice upto 14 hours in 1 day. I only see my teacher for a lesson maybe 2 times a month for an hour each session. If I choose to depend on my teacher for intonation I would be introuble!!!! Needless to say I am very critical and observant of my practicing (this too was learned).
bummy33 1 year ago
Intonation is a thing of habbit, just like excellence in anything else. If you always play out of tune, you will always play out of tune. If you always rush, you are likely to rush. If you play choppy rhythms, you will probably have a choppy rhythm. If you practice slowly, precisely, intune, study the correct rhythm, dynamics & ect you are likely to do just that, and infact you will be able to do it faster and faster with more and more hardwork, not talent. =3 good luck!!!
bummy33 1 year ago
I use to tune my violin with a tuner to 440. One day I started to tune it without the tuner, needless to say at first I was a little bit flat but of course I would turn the tuner on and tune to he standrd 440. Then I stopped thinking about what finger I was using and started paying attention to things like "It's a G# onthe A string with a B on the E string" rather than "High 3 in 4th position on A string and a 1on the E string". Gradually I have become perfectly intune... with hardwork.
bummy33 1 year ago
Everyone has PP. It's just the ones who have it severly undeveloped may never put forth the required effort to fully utilize it. Relative pitch is SOOOO close to PP that it's rediculous in some sense. Never settle for relative pitch, keep your eye on the prize(unless you favor relative pitch). Teachers often put forth more effort in teaching fingerings and what not. So instead of playing a C, lets say you're playing a 3 & ect so you develope rapid finger motion rather than ear fluency.
bummy33 1 year ago
i have discovered that, by practicing and paying very close attention to detail, it is possible to develop perfect pitch. i have done it, and so has one of my friends at school. people just expect perfect pitch to appear magically. well it doesn't! in my opinion, young children often develop it simply because their view differs from ours making their experience of music and sounds special hence, giving them the possibility to learn from the get go how to recognize sounds specifically.
carmenwaxman 1 year ago
The pianist keeps mentioning Mozart....yet plays Chopin. lol.
VoiceOfAnAngel1 1 year ago
pitches and hoes lol.
bubbaj7396 1 year ago
what a bullshit,,you can develop perfect pitch if you want to !!
papcyrill 1 year ago
@papcyrill Complete and utter bullshit... certainly in your case....
o0Slipdisc0o 1 year ago
@o0Slipdisc0o lol,,,looser !!
papcyrill 1 year ago
@papcyrill yeah you can but its different
its called relative pitch
drewsipher3 1 year ago
@papcyrill prove it
khasab 3 months ago
BullS#it not a gene.
kc2ine 1 year ago
um I can recognize notes, but also is someone says fa#, i can sing it correctly. i can also tune guitars correctly. do i have absolute or perfect pitch or none?
taylorswiftloveyou13 1 year ago
@taylorswiftloveyou13 Absolute pitch and perfect pitch are the same thing, and it sounds like you do have it, yes.
1KOOLRIFF 1 year ago
Or i was born with this ability and i just exercise it now, or any one CAN learn it, it just needs the right way to learn it. Thats all, personaly i believe everyone can learn it. Thats all i had to say, keep trying and find the way, don;t buy programs it is stupid, just exercise it from your mind and only.
charisaob 1 year ago
dudes, as a child i didn;t had any musical education, i decided to be a musician from the age of 13 and i definately didn;t had perfect pitch because i was pitchy. I sat and I exercise in the age of 20 and within a week the basic notes I was remember them in my head, I was doing solfege in my head, for few weeks, now after whole year that i stop for health reasons, i still remember the notes correctly.
charisaob 1 year ago
Perfect Pitch is generally described as being able to tell what a note is by just hearing it. After playing violin for 8 years, my ears have become truly accustomed to the color of what an 440 A is. If I hear a note, I can tell you what it is based on my 440 A. Yes if something was flat or sharp compared to that 440 A, I may be somewhat dumbfounded. But generally, I can do it easily.
Rpkist77 1 year ago
@Rpkist77 thats relative pitch.
Metroidkill 1 year ago
@Metroidkill Incorrect. Relative pitch suggests you are able to tell intervals from a single pitch. But the difference between what I said before and what I have said now is that I literally can just sing or tell a 440 A when ever I feel like it. Pulling a pitch out of thin air is perfect pitch.
Rpkist77 1 year ago
@Rpkist77 Pulling a pitch out of thin air is not perfect pitch, that's just a result of having perfect pitch. But it's also possible to recall notes without perfect pitc. For example, I can restring a guitar and tune it without any reference note, and have it exactly in tune when checking it with a tuner. But I don't have perfect pitch at all, I can't recognize notes from a musical piece. I just remember what the guitar sounds like when it's in tune.
Moh1Z 1 year ago
OMG, this research is bogus. How would this research benefit society to find a gene for perfect pitch? and How on earth is this lady getting funded for this?? It better not come from the NIH, such a waste of tax dollar money if it did.
cas814 1 year ago
i have perfect pitch and even i dont understand why i have it.
aray3333 1 year ago
There was a women in the audience at one of my high school orchestra concerts who had perfect pitch. She came waltzing up to the conductor during the performance, tugs on his pants and says, "One of the flutes is sharp."
pogmofoil 1 year ago
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philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll Well...just goes to show I don't have it!
pogmofoil 1 year ago
"The only thing I know about absolute pitch, or perfect pitch as it is sometimes called, is that I don't have it." Hahahahaha - makes me smile every time.
alika207 1 year ago
haha at about 7:50... BABIES ADORE MOZART! *enter chopin etude*...
scottjop656 1 year ago
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scottjop656 1 year ago
Pitch is arbitrary. Society has agreed that the note A is factors and multiples of 440. This is why perfect pitch is useless. Relative pitch, however, is very useful, because it gives insight into less arbitrary musical aspects.
Let's also not forget that every person with perfect pitch should cringe at the sound of keyboard music, because of temperament issues.
Finally, I never read about Bach having perfect pitch. Is that a real fact, or did the producer pull it out of his hat?
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone pitch isn't arbitrary the naming is. I could call the note A an elephant, but it still sounds the same. so you are utterly wrong when you say perfect pitch is useless.
MrNewmaneh 1 year ago
@MrNewmaneh No, pitch is definitely relative. If your entire piano was retuned 20 cents sharp, you could play the same music and it would sound just as good. Yet people with so-called "perfect pitch" could not even listen to this music without cringing? That is obscenity. There is no "perfect pitch gene." It comes from extensive musical training on a 12 tone equal tempered piano. And that's all.
philnoll 1 year ago
@philnoll they could listen to the music and enjoy it just fine. they would just recognize that the notes are sharp.
MrNewmaneh 1 year ago
@MrNewmaneh That's where I don't understand. The notes can't be "sharp" unless there's something to compare it with. If its being compared with the standard piano tuning, what makes that tuning inherently correct?
philnoll 1 year ago
@MrNewmaneh Perfect pitch would allow you to recognize a given note as an A. Relative pitch would allow you to identify its harmonic function. Is it a leading tone to Bflat? Or is it a chord seventh, wanting to resolve down to G? Or perhaps it's the mediant in F-sharp minor, or maybe even the tonic in A? A person with relative pitch can assign musical purpose to a given note, but a person with perfect pitch can only point out the note. Relative pitch separates the sheep from the goats.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone you must realize that because you have perfect pitch doesn't mean you can't have relative pitch.
MrNewmaneh 1 year ago
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b0ttomzone 1 year ago
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@MrNewmaneh You are correct on that. It is possible to have both perfect pitch and good relative pitch. However if two people have relative pitch and one of them has perfect pitch, the only advantage that the perfect pitch person would have is the ability to identify the key of a given piece of music, which is not very revealing. A piece of music will carry the same emotive content, whether it's written in C major or F-sharp major.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
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b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone The only exception to all keys sounding alike is in the case of nonequal temperaments; one of the keys might sound more in tune than the other. However, we rarely hear music in nonequal temperaments.
By the way, this is another flaw to the perfect pitch theory: A person with perfect pitch, having a sense of pure frequency ratios in their genes, should recognize that all intervals on a piano(except 8ve) are slightly out of tune. But this silly video says nothing about temperaments.
b0ttomzone 1 year ago
@b0ttomzone Temperaments don't matter to people with perfect pitch, and yes, we do recognise that all intervals on most intruments are out of tune by necessity - we can cope with this! People with perfect pitch can identify "approximately an A" - I'm not sure if it's A=440Hz we carry around as reference or not, I've never tested it, but I can be confused by an instrument that is very flat. Relative pitch gets in the way of PP sometimes.
Certif1ed 1 year ago
Was this "scientific" project a tax dodge for Pfizer? Absolutely no serious input whatsoever concerning the genetic basis of perfect pitch, just a few boffins shaking test tubes with a little incidental piano music. How many people for instance develop perfect pitch despite having no access to a musical instrument in their early childhood nor any musical training involving exposure to fixed pitches that are named? What a brainless presentation of a potentially interesting idea!
twangbarfly 1 year ago
There's not such myth. Any of us can tell differences in frequency. It's just another myth to boost "Learn-Perfect-Pitch-In-10-Days" merchandising...
TheRealQwertyMaster 1 year ago
1 in every 10,000 people have the gift of perfect pitch!
rockinjesse03 1 year ago
@rockinjesse03 I thought it was 15,000? Anyway, I don't know if you can call it a gift. Some people find it really disturbing. I think if you have mastered a way of turning your perfect pitch on/off in your brain then I can agree with you.
Criticalperspective2 1 year ago
@rockinjesse03 it is a wonderfull gift indeed... however, if you cant figure out how to turn it off it can also be a curse ;)
scottjop656 1 year ago
Ive started testing myself for absolute pitch, I started yesterday and today I can sing any MAJOR note and name it without any help whatsoever, (ill be composing songs in Am and C in my head for a long while)?
Is this absolute pitch, I should have them all by tomorrow... just didnt seem that hard really???
MWRiff 1 year ago
@MWRiff There no such thing as major notes.
nahtecojp 1 year ago
@nahtecojp
Natural then, when i refer to the Cmaj scale I call them the major notes
MWRiff 1 year ago
I have PP but none of my relatives do... Only I learned music in my family.
MozartJunior22 1 year ago
Does anyone think it's possible to TRAIN yourself to pick out specific pitches? Think about this: lets say you use a program which will generate a C note or a G note randomly, and you have to decide what pitch the program generated. Assume you can eventaully answer correctly more than %90 of the time, and thusly add an additional note into the selection. Does anyone think this would make it possible to "hard-wire" yourself to have absolute pitch (despite it not being natural and genuine)?
bassman7530 1 year ago
@bassman7530
I KNOW it's possible because I learned it. Watch my video on my account to see my ability. It is totally possible.
learningperfectpitch 1 year ago
Love how everyone says they have perfect pitch in these comments. Bull-shiiit ha.
nickheck 1 year ago
lol sometimes my perfect pitch can be a distraction for example when my professor is speaking I start analyzing the different notes of his voice and making up compositions and b4 i know it i've already zoned out through half the lecture
samirandgina 1 year ago
@samirandgina omg... really? This is ridiculous!
superagnitio 1 year ago
Lucky Severs? lmao
Mancalaman 1 year ago
I have perfect pitch, and I only found out two days ago!
cheekymonkey3np 1 year ago
I recommend anyone without perfect pitch to listen to an individual tone and try to describe what the tone feels like, do it 5-10mins a day with different tones and I swear, if you just do that routine in a week and you will see results :) My teacher taught me this and he has perfect pitch to identify the tone of your fart :D And by the way, don't rush it, your ear isn't a muscle you train to get stronger, 5-10mins max.
Claus :)
claus93Sethsen 1 year ago
@claus93Sethsen hahaha farts!!!
eddiemperor 1 year ago
perfect pitch is like swimming, you are born with it, but if you don't practice you forget and have to learn again.
sysdftpnk 1 year ago
@sysdftpnk sadly i have to disagree in my opinion. i feel that music is something your born with. you either have it or you dont. not everyone is born into music, and very few people have perfect pitch. unless your saying that every not everyone is born with it, and those people must still practice. i was assuming that you meant everyone is born with perfect pitch, because of your reference to swimming
TheSinginggod 1 year ago
@TheSinginggod well, everyone is born with the ability to "awaken" their perfect pitch, as everyone is born with the ability to recognize shapes or colors, it's just that we don't learn to distinguish tones like we learn to distinguish colors since we are young, but it's as easy as that when you are a child, when you grow older, it kinda gets harder, and I have to disagree on this one with you from personal experience, by practicing for a month I'm now able to distinguish any natural note.
sysdftpnk 1 year ago
@sysdftpnk i see your point. i never thought of it that way. i wasnt really born into music, i just had it. and i have friends who dont have it. so i assumed that you either have it or you dont. but i do believ that if you dont hone it in your very early years, its almost impossible to get it when you get older
TheSinginggod 1 year ago
@TheSinginggod yeah, like I said, it gets harder as you age, or maybe I was born with it, as none of my classmates (I study music) have had that kind of progress by the first month of college, and well I train my ear quite differently, as I train by hearing notes and learning tone by tone, opposed to what my school teaches which is to recognize intervals, a practice which I refuse, 'cause I think it just messes up your ear.
sysdftpnk 1 year ago
@sysdftpnk Recognizing intervals messes up your ear? I'm all for listening to the tone of the note -- the properties besides timbre, highness/lowness, etc. that make each note unique -- but I think a development of perfect and relative pitch can coexist.
jojoereturns 1 year ago
@TheSinginggod So developing perfect pitch is just a matter of hard, hard practice and time.
sysdftpnk 1 year ago