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  • This is so true. I see it all the time. It makes me want to kick these girls in there ass

  • THANK YOU!

    no one ever commented about this issue.

  • While that type of behavior might be more common in the black communities, the same thing applies to Whites and Latinos. (Asians seem to be pretty focused for the most part)...

    Looking back at my time in Jr. High, you have to admit that education in the school system is just not interesting at that age. A good teacher will be able capture their students interest with whatever method works, and sad thing is those types of teachers are rare. Do your job and make education fun, like it should be

  • i wonder what event at school provided the inspiration for this video

  • i think they trying to do is fake till they make it plain and sample

  • 1. As soon as a black girl hits puberty she is often preyed upon by older boys and BM.

    There are girls with voluptuous bodies at 14 so the men can be forgiven for thinking these girls are a lot older, but often times when they find out a girls real age they still continue to aggressively pursue her.

    A man of 21 will force his 16 yr old girlfriend to do things a women his age would do. Girls should be allowed to mature naturally and not be forced to grow up quickly by hypersexual men.

  • It has been proven that the sexualisation of young girls often leads to their underachievement in schools in addition to emotional problem, eating disorders etc.

    Therefore I understand that these girls could have some negative influence on the boys. However, the gap between black boys and girls is quite vast.

    Why would boys be more profoundly affected by the sexualisation of girls?

    Do you think there is something that uniquely affects black boys education and not the girls?

  • I knew a girl back in high school that was affected by this. She was curvy before but ended up starving herself senior year because she hated the attention from older males. It doesn't happen by and large but if her parents had been around more things probably would have turned out differently.

  • Agreed however their is a dynamic within that for some girls of their deliberate pursuance of older guys. In many cases, the girls never tell. These are some of the very men they act out their hyper sexualization with and despite what we would like to believe, it's not all force, sometimes curiosity

  • I know this is waaayyy off topic,But guest what Theyre going to remake "The Last Dragon"And Samuel L Jackson is going to portray Sho'Nuff.

  • lol. should be funny

  • You just spoke the truth, brother. I remember SWP saying the same thing. This also relates to the idea that young BW don't judge the character of a BM the same way they do non BM. If a non BM is corny its ok (they don't even perceive him as corny because he's white). If BM behaves the same way, he's nice but lame. I wish this could be addressed in mainstream media.

  • You also have BM who consider other types of BM to be corny, or nerdy, or a p*ssy, or gay if they look and carry themselves a certain way.

    I mean just look at how all these guys put down RealBlack1 because he is "nerdy" LOL! calling him gay and such. I'm not trying to defend him, but I mean come on, it's not like the guys don't do it to other men as well.

    Conservatism, Intelligence, Morality, or any display of "individualism" is often frowned upon in the Black Community. Sad but true.

  • its not girls fault at all. kanye west tried to impress a girl by saying something stupid but only made himself look stupid. when guys wear their pants hanging down maybe they think i'm impressed but i'm not.  when guys put $2000 worth of stereo equipment and $2000 worth of rims on a car thats 25 years old and cuts off at every stop sign i think that's stupid. when guys get arrested and go to jail they think that's cool but all this stuff is only cool to other guys not girls.

  • You and I may not be impressed. Many other women may not be impressed by that sort of behavior, but sadly there is a sector of women in our community who are. Are these women the majority? I don't know, but I know that these guys behave that way to impress them, to a certain degree.

    Check it, if these same women/girls were all going after the smart, educated guys, these same males who embrace the "thug" culture would be breaking their necks to appear smart. The libraries would be overcrowded!

  • The operative word sadly enough is "if".

  • A point to remember is, a person(male or female) can not be corrupted or influenced unless they open themselves up to it. We've all had to deal with peer pressure, and had to make the choice whether to become a follower or a leader.

    Most young boy/males will not listen to, or be influenced by a woman, unless he is receptive to it. Which is why boys/young males will listen to their fathers, brothers, or male authority in their lives before they will listen to their mom, sister, or other women.

  • So it's not simply a case of a girl influencing a boy, but rather girls PLUS his male peers who influence these young men to develop an undesirable image/mentality. Environment and peer pressure do a lot to help mold a young person's psyche.

  • women set the standard but they dont like the consequences that may come. Good vid.

  • I can't agree with this. This almost seems like an excuse to blame females for your own shortcomings. Many children are hitting puberty earlier than they did a decade ago due to the additives in food. Girls are not to blame the parents are. It's their responsibility to ingrain positive values into those boys. All of this starts at home and I'm sick of hearing excuses for perpetuating the same cycle. That campaign last year was for change, it's about time we start changing for the better.

  • He said good values are being instilled in "those boys" by the responsible parents at 1:10. Girls "mature" faster than boys as females love to say. When a boy wants to be with a girl its not hard for him to understand that adopting the personna of her favorite celebrity will get her attention. he likes the eroticism he receives from her which reinforces his lifestyle choice

  • It is truly sad to see a lack of accountability and the blame game reflected in some of these comments. It is up to the parents to instill discipline and decent behavior in their children. Failing to do this has resulted in teen killings being at an all time high.BP can keep on blaming young girls till the cows come home however at the way that things are going if care is not taken a lost generation is imminent. Learn to be good parents

  • It has to be in the parents, hence another major potential problem . Nonetheless, if it is that discipline must be instilled in both boys AND girls. Of course we know some males can be prone to trouble but we cannot deny that some females adhere to their own madness thus BOTH need to be addressed.

  • It is pretty obvious that the major problem here is lack of good parenting.The major influence in a young adults life should be their parents, this will allow them to adhere to parents expectations.Boys have been chasing girls and girls have been chasing boys since time immomerial this is nothing new but when youths know that they are accountable to a no- nonsense parent they are able to get their priorities right

  • Right. Now a challenge I've seen with that is has to be in the parent. I've noticed over time that a good number of people born from the mid 1950's up thru about the late 1960's have, to varying degrees, been involved in drug use with various detrimental effects. This has affected those born after that time in adverse ways but, we'll just have to fill in the gaps as best we can.

  • Well I have every intention of raising children that are not easily influenced by stupidity.Regardless of social life there are certain standards that I will expect them to adhere to and these standards will be non negotiable

  • Tis the way it should be.

  • It is a lot easier for women to corrupt men. All women have to do for some guys to corrupt them is to appeal to the small head.

  • black community is the only one where a subculture of violence, ignorance and criminal activity is held in high regard and celebrated as our cultural identity. African americans were ripped away from their culture and in absence of one adopted this hood mentality as a measuring tool of blackness. While other communities shun and disprove of ignorant and criminal members we celebrate and reward ours. Ghetto and urban are now synonymous with black, that is not our culture and that is not who we r

  • Each irresponsible woman robs a man of his responsibility.

  • I like indianmist comments.

  • We need separate schools for girls and boys until high school.

  • That won't solve a thing. These kids will still have access to each other socially away from the school environment.

  • "Thug culture" was introduce into the Black community by Black Men(NWA, ICE-T, ICE Cube, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, Too Short and many others), and was accepted by many of our young people.

    It stays alive because SOME(not all by ANY means) BW; Black girls at present buy into this negative image of a Black Man, and help to keep it going.

    Just as with the BM who love the Baby mama, Hoochie, Hoodrat, Booty-shaking type of BW. They keep them going by supporting this negative image of BW.

  • If we instead learned how to embrace the positive aspects of our culture, instead of the negative - a lot of these bad images and the ones who support them will die out.

    Teach education, self-improvement, self-esteem and empowerment, morals, values, community out-reach. We desperately need to learn our history as well, we Blacks in America don't know our ROOTS. Not slavery, but beyond that back to AFRICA. We're a lost people without a foundation. Find our foundation and we find ourselves.

  • Find ourselves and we will also discover solutions to many of the problems that plague our community.

  • I totally agree with you Indianmist. This is what I was trying to say in my own kind of way.

  • Back then even when most households were ran by two parents, you still had girls going for the popular guys - whether they be jocks, delinquents, class clowns or what have you.

    But to be fair, I have witnessed many girls who bypassed the smart guy for the delinquent. Many of these girls of today, have no idea what to look for in an acceptable mate.

    Simply because they haven't seen positive male role models in their own lives. They go for the types of guys that they are used to being around.

  • I understand what you're saying Indianmist. I still think that some (not all) young females are sending a very dangerous message to young boys and it's you have to "Act or Behave" a certain to be considered desirable. That's why I laugh when these same girls get older and they wonder why they can't find a good man.

  • Hi Bruhman, but we have to understand that the dynamic between male and female has always been that way. Even back in the day men would fight duels over a woman's love & honor.

    Nowadays the "danger" element comes in from the recent(late 80's) introduction of the "thug" culture. Young boys are pressured into conforming to that image which does not come natural to them, in order to "fit" into what they perceive as what girls want.

  • YOU REALTY GOT ON POINT WITH THIS ONE!

  • Times have changed. Back when I was in school, it was the boys who pressured other boys to act a certain way. As with my brothers who were smart, bookworm types, but got beaten up and pressured from other boys to act "cool", and to stop being a "bitch".

    As for girls(I mean girls not women), of all races, they tend to go for the boy who they see as being "cooler" or more outgoing than the smart, shy guy.

    The bad boy is seen as "exciting", "popular", "more fun to be around".

  • The smart boys are seen as "boring", "dull", "unpopular", "not fun" , and "whimps".

    I'm not so sure it has anything to do with parenting, but instead to do with human nature. Just like in nature, when it comes to the animal kingdom females tend to go for the strong, virile, dominant, alpha male - same with humans.

    The smart guy(perceived as shy, nerdy, less masculine, unpopular) aren't seen as "Alpha males", but Beta or Omega males. So who do you think the girls will go for?

  • but what im saying is that some of the other races of men are almost still allowed to have the alpha male title but still perfrom academically whereas this is not the case for black male youths. being the alpha male for a black youth means identifying with the thug bad boy culture that prohibits them from performing academically. im not saying that this is the only thing that is preventing them for doing well academically though.

  • Yes, I agree. In the White Culture, this whole element of "thugism" does not exist on the level that it does within the Black Community.

    Young males and females have always conformed and changed themselves in an effort to fit into a certain image; one they felt would make them popular and acceptable to the opposite sex.

    In today's culture it's the same, with the only difference being other races focusing on academics, despite those few who succumb to peer pressure and conform to the negative.

  • In the long run however, many will them(other races) adopt a more positive image and role in society to fit in with the mainstream, whereas many young Black Males will not. Why is this?

    It's not simply because of urging from the "Thuglovers", "Baby Mamas", and other BW who enter into relationships with these men; I think it also has to do with trying to maintain a certain image amongst his male peers who display a similar mind-set, way of life, and lifestyle.

  • In the long run however, many will *then*

  • i agree with you on that point

  • This is very true the cycle starts in middle school/Jr. High School. Brothas who get decent and/or good grades and who are striving for something positive are made to feel inferior by young girls. Meanwhile the class clowns, delinquents/trouble makers, and other types underachieving boys get a lot of the female attention. I also think the parents of many of these young girls need to be questioned for their faulty parental skills.

  • Pink,Dont respond to that Jiannearmstrong.Because she had no valid arguement to your video.And you said,I see it in school,Im a teacher.

  • The one thing missing in this video is the role of the parents. Surely the influence of these girls cannot beat parent expectations. If that is the case there is something wrong in that household and the blame should be apportioned appropriately. The fear of my fathers disapproval ensured that my brothers stayed on the straight and narrow

  • Basically. I mean shit, if the girls truly are corrupting the boys then short of sending them to an all boys school, what can you do? Maybe if our culture pushed our young boys to get A's instead of ass, a silly girl's opinion of them at age 12 wouldn't be so detrimental to their lives.

  • This is true. Black folks are the only race of folks who don't place value on education and self-improvement and there in lies most of the problem.

  • i agree with you on that Indianmist. We seem to encourage and celebrate ignorance. If you do something as simple as speak proper english you are mocked, if you do well you are 'selling out'. I dont understand why our culture finds its identity in ignorance.

  • It comes from centuries of training and conditioning nordette. Back during slavery when we were deliberately taught to be ignorant by our slave owners, and punished(sometimes killed) for attempting to educate ourselves.

    Nowadays we don't have to worry about Whites punishing us for being educated, why? Because we punish ourselves and those who look like us.

    It's like Pavlov's dog who is trained and conditioned through years of repetitive behaviors. Ring a bell, and he performs.

  • Back then, Whites rang the bell, and we did what we were trained to do or not do. Today we hold the bell, yet most of us don't realize it. It's time to retrain and recondition ourselves to answer to a different bell.

  • Ow great now you are downgrading young blk females

  • naw. u just hear what u want to.

  • Listen this is not blk womens fault that you blk men are a bunch of followers.

  • once again u here what u want to. i said this was a cycle and i was talking about a part of the cycle. that was clearly said in the vid. did u watch? probably not.

  • YES I DID an im very offended!

  • why. if i were getting on black men u would not care if black men were offended.

  • Yes I guess you are right.

  • Yea, I remember being in middle school, and all of the guys who get into trouble, had all of the latest fashions, and was dumb as rocks, got a lot of female attention. Never really cared too much for it then, now I just laugh about how ridiculous it was...

  • Ive said it all along -- these young black boys around 13-14 are shaped by his female peers and the women in his life.

    He is being indirectly told that acting like a bum is the way to be by the young girls and women in his life.

    I hate to say this: but I grew up in a school that was 90% white. The messages as to what I recieved was proper "manhood" was completely different to what I see most black males get in other places that are predominantly black.

  • These 13-14 yr old girls are already into relationships where as boys don't even know what a relationship is. There are plenty of young girls who get hit on by older boys so these girls know what's up compared to boys the same age.

  • These young men are not being taught the VALUE OF MANHOOD... Everything in our society tells these boys that they're somehow BENEATH a female and that she's doing them a favor if she decides to mess with them.

  • But...I would agree when it comes to the younger kids! The young females have somewhat more of a levridge** over the young black boys. The young black boys go to extremes to impress these girls. very true! But that changes once they reach adult hood!

  • Yes! Girls mature faster than boys. Very true!

  • They only mature faster SEXUALLY. Mentally, NO WAY!!!!!!!!

  • Yes way! Young girls mature faster than boys mentally and physical which explains the intellectual Leeway young girls have over desparate sex-crazed young boys! Young women controle young boys! I never thought of this till now!!!

  • We as Blacks today,Creating Destruction.And were carrying out The white structures plan.The BW want bastard children by BM who's not about nothing,While the grow to kill BM who are about something.

  • Co-sign 200% CHenderson30. I totally agree with all the comments you made homie

  • Thanks Bro.But it's true!The old dogs who did the same stuff are teaching the new pups the same behaviors.

  • I agree CreeWilly,We can use Slavery for the rest of out lives,Black people who were in slavery did create an identity for us as,Creators,scientist,doctors,­businessmen.

  • The plan is to destroy the BM in America.If this is the truth.Bravo!The Willie Lynch Letter was a success.And when we see our ancestors again.We can explain to them why we fucked up everything they got killed for.

  • @chenderson30 -- I agree 100%.

    I surely bet that civili rights activist and all the blacks that died in the past for our freedom would be pleased to know what exactly it is that so many blacks are doing with that freedom now..

    I would also bet MLK and Booker T Washington would be pleased to know that if they were brought back to life that they are "corny niggas" as well.

  • And plus they're mothers follow the same patterns as the young BW of today.If you don't believe me,Ask these single mothers what were their fathers was doing before she decide to get pregnant by them.I'll bet you won't get a straight answer.

  • ......im from "the hood", if thats what peeps wanna call it. i dont speak like ur typical "hood" dude. never have. and the amount of flak i had over the years for it, even from my own fam, is ridiculous. see, even that word "ridiculous" has been an issue for peeps in the past. they call it "the white mans words". im like "yo, u live in FUCKIN' ENGLAND, U IDIOT!!! what language do u think ur speaking right now??? theyre ALL white mans words!!"

  • Great video Pink,Your video is also in correlation of the same as the idiotic saying in the black community,If your smart and talk with intelligence.You're acting White!But if your not then your acting Black!But if you ask anyone in the Black Community,What is acting Black means,They don't even know themselves.

  • exactly what i been saying for years. i thought it was just whites but our own peeps dont know what being "black" is. and when u ask, the answer they give is based on the kinda shit that ANYBODY can embody. "its being street", "its ur clothes, they way u talk." etc. jackasses. truth is, we (western blacks) DONT HAVE AN IDENTITY. at least not a real, tangible one. thats how slavery left us, without a face. we pretty much starting from scratch.....

  • Great video Pink. Just recently, a young black teen was beaten to death by a group of other black teens. Why? because he was smart and making good grades in school. That's how deep it is. Blacks are being trained at an early age to hate black boys and men who strive to empower themselves. No different than slavery. And yes, the black girls and women play a major part in it. What you described has been going on back when I was in Junior High in the mid 90s.

  • I remember that Mhendeb,That was recently no too long ago.

  • 5 Stars.

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