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  • FINALLY a 009 Sound System song that FITS with the video!

  • What a lively little discussion this must have been. Moreover, what a perfectly vicious little circle it has been as well. There seems to be a disconnect between people with respect to what is and is not possible. That is what is at the heart of all your discussion. What we must understand and accept is that (One) Can we survive as a species long enough to recognize and rise above our petty differences.

  • And also an energy well for a time travel vehicle power house for the inhabitants of a worm whole or something like that of some sort of blacky wholeix dimensional interstellar engine in the near-near future

  • The best thing mercury could be used for in the future would be as a power-energy and fuel generator in some way as it is so close to the sun, it might one day be the power station of the solar system. Having huge diamond type solar powers of some type collecting all that solar energy in huge quantities and then transporting it all around the colonies of the solar system.

  • @bloty02 An interesting idea. Turn Mercury into a huge array that directs concentrated microwave beams to relay satellites, which point those beams to planetside power plants, which would boil water to turn A/C generators

  • I would use Platinum instead of Gold )))

  • Sounds like a great idea. Just let me know when you find somewhere that has THAT much gold. lol

  • lol wtf a golden planet :D we must sell it to some capitalists aliens

  • @Wyrmshadow Give him some credit. That WAS kinda funny. But he's a dumbass none the less.

  • Looks like a batting cage ball! 

  • @BlackRaptor31 Obama's dreams

  • Just one question, what exactly is Parraforming?

  • @OpeningSalvoe World-spanning greenhouses. Much more expensive but saves the trouble of creating an atmosphere. Why go that far when you can just dome everything? Some write it as Para-Terraforming.

  • @Wyrmshadow I see thanks, I guess it's true what they say, you do learn something new every day. Still seems like a hell of a lot more effort to go to than terraforming.

  • @Wyrmshadow You still have to create an atmosphere, or is there just a vacuum under those domes?

  • @starsquid #1. Taking the whole idea way too serious. 2. That's a 21st century brain trying to wrap itself around a 31st century problem.

  • @starsquid I had already replied to a similar question much much earlier. You are using 21st century thinking on a 31st century problem. Don't sweat it.

  • i think the surface temperature would rule ot almost all chances - unless you did it underground. that would be more practical.

  • @starsquid nanite cloud

  • all the gold in the world

  • @Tom101229 ok don't worry I will survive. Please note that from the beginning I even did not try to respond to your pseudo-scientific "facts", I knew that it is useless.

    I wanted to advice you only that you should stick to subjects you have at least elementary knowledge (I don't know.. rhetoric ?). I still repeat my advice and I did it without any prejudice ... only from good heart :-).

  • @Tom101229 LOL great trolling :-) but I am asking again what are you smoking? that should be something hardcore. I love this kind of pejorative humanists who thinks they are smart and they can join discussion about whatever subject. They even don't realize they are making stupid about yourself.

  • @Tom101229 what are you smoking ? I am reading and rereading what you wrote and I cannot find anything viable from physics point of view in your text :-)

  • We cantdo anything like this with our curret monetary system, resources are divided rather than combined.

    if resources in general, humans, elements, etc, worked with a ingle purpose, we could - literally - do anything.

  • yeah then we have the problem of going to get all of that gold. But, I love the idea of utilizing all of the resources of our solar system, first the water and helium 3 of the moon, then the livable environment of mars(hopefully one day) and the gold of mercury.

  • @darkshadow092 Less than the Healthcare Bill the monkeys just passed.

  • Where would you get that much gold..?

  • Why Parraforming?

  • o my feaking god that wud be so awesome!! just imagine having a home on another planet :O. id go to mars wat bout u? lol

  • i would choose Mars too! lol

  • to expensive dont you think

  • Well that's what you get for thinking of a 31st century problem with a 21st century mind. At one time it was too expensive to live in what is now Las Vegas, but technology and entrepreneurialism changed that.

  • 31st century hmmm in the path that humanity is headed i hope that theres atleast one tree left by that time

  • i thought it was called "Terraforming"

  • I think the science is sound enough, despite there being a limited amount of gold (in this section of the galaxy anyways) it wouldn't have to be gold. But it have to be a refective color of some sort to help cut down the stronger radiaton being close to our sun. As well as maybe artificial magnetic feild. It might work. I think the ring, as well as a power srouce serve to cut back some radiation to get parraforming started at least. you'd to figure out the rest later.

  • the ring around the new mercury could then be used to capture the reflected sunlight from the planet and use it for energy... thus making the new planet independant from earth ;) awesome...

  • and then?

  • im up for the discoball plan!

  • its going to be covered in coal then gold and it will have a reddish color due to the fact its being turned into a plasma planet, the 5th state of matter,venus will be covered in salt and silver for a more of a purple plasma. then pluto and x will start to grow crystal the sixth. and think of mars as just a core like earths to be wrapped in rock from the asteroid belt. and whats left in the asteroid belt into 36 moons or satelite planets in a circle.well... in the future that is

  • By the way "Parraform" isn't a word. It's actually called "Terraforming" dispite what you think.

  • Parraforming is a term I saw in an article I read many years ago about terraforming. It's just using massive greenhouses instead of revamping an entire atmosphere. And the word is spelled "D-E-S-P-I-T-E".

  • Oops, that was a typo. XD

  • @Wyrmshadow Amazing. so you can learn new things online and this is a very good one. Paraforming :3

  • then we can put the domes together and have the planet as earth under a sky-dome.

    :D

  • feasibility = 0

  • Usefulness of post <0

  • Why would we take the time or money to turn Mercury into a giant golden galactical disco ball?

    I'm sorry,but I will die a cold death before I watch our galaxy become a giant dancefloor.

  • I think we'd all be better served if you died in a fire.

  • says the "man" who wants to turn Mercury into a golden discoball

  • and....... B& Hammer

  • Fact is that Earth is going to, within a hundred or so years, being grossly overpopulated. Even later on, we'll be running out of room to live. We could parraform, or even terraform Mars one day, but then we'd run out of room. Then we'd go on to moons and other moons, and eventually it would be feasible and logical to colonize Mercury and Venus (although it would be impossible with TODAY's technology). Know your science before opening your mouth.

  • in response to sterance2, when a nation goes post-industrial, population growth usually flat lines, and then declines. So eventually, this is going to happen to the world population. Most estimates place this sometime in the 2100's. The reason we must colonize space is more due to the fact that a single disaster could wipe us out on earth whereas having more planets or moons under our control gives us more options. Look at germany italy and russia for example (post industrial population decline)

  • Interesting, and I have read over those reports, but I must say that I'm not quite in agreement with them. But Carl Sagan did say that we must be a two-planet species for the same reason you've stated. I suppose that a new habitable world would be beneficial in many ways than we think those (colonization, mining, exploration, speciation, etc.)

  • Whoa project like this could lasts a couple of decades, or centuries ...

  • Unlike in the video what I suggest doesn't necessarily require gold. I suggested fullerenes as perhaps you could make them with a higher volume to mass ratio than the bulk of the atmosphere but a lower surface area to mass ratio than the O2 and N2 molecules. They wouldn't(at least I think) be as likely to be knocked out of the atmosphere unlike the molecules meant for breathing. Anyway the sun's size doesn't matter. It's the percentage of radiation blocked. My suggestion differs from the video.

  • All that glitters is not gold.

  • On terraformers 'dot' ca there is a good use of mercury as a venusian moon, not only would it speed up the venusian orbit, it would provide a good deal of shelter from intense solar radiation and help cool and neutralise it's atmosphere allowing it to become more habital to natural life, also mercury could then have an atmosphere dumped on it. The tricky part is moving the orbit of mercury towards venus without sending either of them into a slingshot toward the sun or the oort cloud.

  • Modern humans coulden't keep that thing operational for more than 4 years I bet. parraforming doesn't work, the atmospheric hydrogen that is retained will eventually combine with the oxygen to make it all become water, that's why air in bags under heat has water condensating on it's surface, that's what would happen anywhere aswell, unless your going to continually maintain the aircon it's not a good idea The only viable, but risky option is to use an asteroid to nudge it's orbit further out.

  • Sure if one could maintain an atmosphere (perhaps using the method I mentioned below) then the reduced incident heat could be circulated around the planet. Also the day-night temperature range wouldn't have to be as small as earth's in order to be survivable.

  • Yeah, It's very possible. But that's an awful lot of gold, that element is so rare, it's only made in supernovas and our solar system is quite light in those elements as it's in the outer galaxy. If this was closer to the centre of the galaxy where there are super heavyweight stars then there would be an abundance of this stuff, the stars only live a million odd years there. Getting there from earth is a bit of a stretch for our civilization. Easier to push the orbit out and add an atmosphere.

  • I don't know much about fullerenes as some kind of shielded atmosphere, could be a good idea, or perhaps lots of shrapnel and dirt in orbit around mercury as a kind of sunshield, but that woulden't last that long before becoming a moon. I know I love theorizing technology to impossible things, but mercury is really really too close for our tech and resources to do anything miraculous too, It's bigger than titan though, titan holds an atmosphere 2x the Earths, so it can hold a dense atmosphere

  • ... provided the solar wind is shielded out or something? Even if we did live there, the sun would be bloody huge in the sky, looking at that and you'd blind yourself, and if the machines malfunctioned (as they do) the atmosphere would soon turn into a fierry red hell more severe than venus. The tech would have to be much more localised and the idea of the whole planet parraformed would take up too much resources. Natural is best, the less technology involved, the better.

  • big problem: mercury rotation is to slow to actually do this.

  • Continuation.... Also you wouldn't have to worry about the stress forces associated with the non equatorial component of a rotating dyson sphere setup thus investing significantly less material. Also a foam/haze won't require reparations in the same sense as other constructs you could just have your atmosphere factories pump out a little more if some of it is destroyed. If said material could change states from reflective to radiative depending on incident solar radiation that would be cool too

  • Also the weight of the shield on the gases would contribute to greater atmospheric pressure.

  • Well not just that but also the fact the mercury has a lower escape velocity means the some of the gas velocities at normal earth temperature distribution would be possibley above this. For this problem I might suggest to have a stratified atmosphere perhaps divided be a few reflective layers. A cold layer in the atmosphere could then reduce the mean velocity of the smaller percentage of the molecules in the higher end of the temperature.

  • Continuation.... I meant to say higher end of temperature curve (regarding the velocity distribution curve of the air molecules). Due to this the cooling layer of the atmosphere could build up in density and the exess mass would eventually sink back down to the bottom layer where it belongs.

    My knowledge of atmospheric science is very limited so I'm not sure if any of my suggestions could hold any water under scrutiny.

  • I was thinking of maybe creating large reflective varient of a fullerene molecular balloons which would have a much larger molecular mass but a lower density than the atmospheric gasses and would rest like a gaseous/foam cloak on the upper atmosphere. The large molecular mass could prevent itself outgassing while trapping the smaller molecular mass oxygen and nitrogen in the lower atmosphere. This method avoids the problems of the solar sail effect on a floating mirror planetary heat shield.

  • The Federal Reserve would love to get its hand on this planet as well I'd imagine

  • I think Ceres should be used as an anchor for space colonies using the space elevator and massive rotating habitats. IMO

  • that's asumming the concept of money will still exist or will we grow up and see it's just paper to wipe your ass with.

  • you dont need 100% earth gravity to survive. people that think that are underestimating the ability of the human body to adapt to it's environment.

  • Well, then maybe this is what we have to get rid of first. The economic system we have now. After that, focusing on our survival would not be a matter of cost, but of technology and innovation.

  • it will have the gdp of an entire planet behind it. and take hundreds of years.

  • lol wtf was that? lmao...but you never know it could work? btw could you elaborate on the process of "Parraforming"?

  • we cannot even make shield in our own planet how much more to other planet..this idea is idiota

  • Bite me retard.

  • lol

  • The Scientists who figure this out Will be Super Geniuses?  Lets look 500 years into the future. Im Interested in Venus being Terraformed very unique planet

  • Are you sure we have enough.. erm... plastic to do that? Or whatever it would take to make that thing.

    "Can't let you do that, Starfox."

  • Why not just turn the sun down a few nothces, or harpoon mercury and venus and reel them over here

  • It's very over the top.

    underground base's are more likely.

    But who knows I guess.

  • I got tired of every Utoob retard not reading my info paragraph so I just changed the title.

  • This isn't really terraforming.

  • I would think earliest settlements on mercury would exist entirely underground to shield itself from solar radiation, and heat.

  • I didn't think mankind was bold enough to touch mercury by it being so close to the sun.

    but with todays technology which is more advanced than what we had 50 years ago. who knows what will have 50 to 200 years from now if we don't destroy ourselves. who's to say that the goverment dosen't have it now

  • are you aware of how long that whould take?

  • You mean it doesn't take 60 seconds? Damn!

  • I thought it would take 30! SoliderofChrist you really sound like an idiot.

  • After Mars, Is Venus Then Mecury but the strange Thing between Mecury and Venus is The surface of Venus 400 degrees more hoter than the surface mecury even though mecury is closer to the sun I give Both projects 500 to 2000 years As far Terraforming hopefully im still around when this happens

  • it would be one of the most beautiful places to terraform ..think of the view u can get of the sunrise and sunset.. :D :D

    ok i admit it , with the corrent tech it's impossible..but if nanotechonologys will advance , we might be able to build structures that could make mercury habbitable, at least as a tourist resourt. or as a place for scientest to study the sun better :p

  • I like the idea of solar shields, perhaps it could be applied to venus as well, e.g. put the shields up, after a few years its cooled down, and we can begin whisking of the atmosphere.

  • after a 'few years'

    lol

  • by a few, I'm reffering to a few decades or a century or 2.

  • Ok since apparently people say mercury is smaller then mars. IT might have more mass which is what gravity relys on.

  • Mercury has the same gravity as Mars, but several times closer to the sun. only around 35,000,000 miles from the Sun. its possible to Terraform Mercury but we will live in it's craters or near the poles first

  • No chance of parra-- or terraforming Mercury.

    1. Close proximity to the sun would probably melt all the gold and heat shields.

    2. Too small, sever lack of gravity is hazardous to human life.

    3. Any atmosphere it can get is already doomed to be eaten away by solar wind.

    4. There are many stray asteroids in the area of Mercury, chances of being hit by one is a possibility.

  • 1. I would not use gold, but carbon nanotubules to create the heat shields.

    2. mars gravity is similar to mercury's and there is no suggestion that it will be hazardous, people will probably lose bone density, but that is about it.

    3. the atmosphere is domed, so it should hold onto it for longer, needing the occasional import of a comet every couple of 10,000 years.

    4. shit happens, it happens on earth as well, but the surface of mercury will be in compartments so the damage will be limited

  • Its impossible to teraform Mercury. Its way too small, which means its gravity will be hazardous to human life. It has no atmosphere, and any atmosphere it can get is stripped away completely by solar wind. And due to the suns close proximity, i wouldn't be surprised if it melted all the gold.

  • Same gravity as Mars yet theres plenty of dreams for that.

  • Mars is far enough away that people are hopeful that if they add atmosphere that I won't be completely obliterated by solar wind.

    Mercury is far too close for that kind of dream. And because Mar has signs of water canals, which boots that hope.

    I think Terraforming Mercury is impossible.

  • Probably. But that doesn't stop me from making fanciful videos or pretentious guys like you from commenting on them.

  • probably if you told me it was fanciful and not really serious I wouldn't have commented like that.

  • Correct term is actually Parraform. Since the planet is too small, and too near the sun for an adequate atmosphere, just cover the whole place in shielded green houses. It's a very dense planet with huge mineral wealth. Plus I was just messing around.

  • Question:

    Once is build, how can you land a craft inside, this thing look like plastic,

  • You dock at the ring. Costs much less to use the elevator than a rocket. Or just rooftop airlocks.

  • Considering the vast contrast in sizes, a Dyson sphere would be an undertaking a million-fold more extensive. However, the Mercury ring's a step in the right direction.

  • WOW is that possible? what's the next step? Dyson spheres?

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