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  • Delbert ,answer the question. where in the bible does it say that man has an immortal soul?

  • Great website for those who may be interested it,s called Truth or Tradition with john Schoeneight.Watch the hell video in the video section,it will open your eyes,john will open your eyes as to what the bible teaches about hellfire.john also has a video about the soul and what it means.

  • We can ,and we will forgive you for espousing false doctrine Delbert.

  • The Bible speaks of All False Religion as

    being a harlot or spiritual whore - whose

    name is "Babylon-The-Great". Since her

    doctrines, beliefs, and holidays are based

    on those of Ancient Babylon - the name

    seems appropriate.

  • according to most christians you die and go right to heaven,so immediately upon death your rewarded,that,s not what the bible teaches.Jesus said there would be a resurrection to life ,that being the first resurrection when the just receive their glorified immortal bodies,that,s what the scriptures teach. jesus said that he was bringing the reward with him and that the reward is with him,remember that.

  • supposively christendom is based soley upon what the bible teaches,but why is it that the doctrines of christendom don,t always match up with what the bible actually says,i find that to be kinda ironic,don,t you think?

  • David wrote about the fate of the unsaved,

    “As wax melts before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God” (Psalm 68:2, italics added).

    “For yet a little while, and the wicked shall be no more” (Psalm 37:10, italics added).

    “The enemies of the Lord, like the splendor of the meadows, shall vanish, into smoke they shall vanish away” (Psalm 37:20, italics added).

    “But the transgressors shall be destroyed together; the future of the wicked shall be cut off” (Psalm 37:38

  • Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

  • "I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them."Acts 20:29,30

  • good luck!!

  • try answering this question and show us biblical proof.Do we have an immortal soul?

  • i,ve seen your "truth" and there is no real" truth" in it.well there,s plenty of space here to provide us your" truth" so have at it.And further more show us proof that we have an immortal soul,nobody so far has been able to do that biblically .Maybe you have a scripture which seems to teach that we do,maybe?

  • i,ve seen your "truth" and there is no real" truth" in it.well there,s plenty of space here to provide us your" truth" so have at it.

  • i guess Delbert became overwhelmed with the biblical evidence i presented and he gave up,lol!

  • @timsh6

    No - As you recall I requested you to send me an email with all of your comments so I could answer it at one time. You evidently could not face the truth as you never did respond.

    As I said I am not on here to openly debate with people, just to share the word of God and then the people can do what they want to with it.

    I believe in the email I sent you that there was more than ample proof your doctrine is wrong.

    LAST RESPONSE ON HERE

  • Those who cannot endure sound doctrine will turn their eyes and ears away from the truth and will turn unto fables

  • "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding." Prov 3:5

    *A doctrine of devils is a devil 'leaning' on its own understanding.

    "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth." Titus 1:14

    *A doctrine of devils is a conversion of pagan or Jewish fables into God's Word by the devil.

    "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" Isa 8:20

  • by their fruits we will know them

  • The destruction that Sodom and Gomorrah suffered was an eternal destruction. Those cities were destroyed, and have never been built since,

  • sodom and gommorah were burned with temperature exceeding 4- 5000 degrees they said! kinda sounds like fervent heat (intense heat) dos it not? the heat that will burn the elements up!

  • it,s amazing it really is ,scientists have discovered the city,and all that remains of it is ash,sulfur balls everywhere! that right there is an example of destruction,eternal fire accordIng to the BIBLE! there,s no denying that!

  • show us a piece of paper that burns forever!

  • answer: no the paper is gone for good! just like the bible states the fire will leave them neither root or branch,and when there,s no root or branch left ,it,s all gone! basicly what happened to sodom and gommorah and it,s inhabitants!

  • if you take a piece of paper and throw it into a fire,does the paper continue to burn endlessly ,or does it burn up and turn to ashes? is god a consuming fire, does the bible tell us that the wicked will be brought to ashes upon the earth? so basicly my point is that the fire continues to burn as long as it has something to burn,so when the paper is burned up and turned to ashes ,the fire goes out.The results are everlasting destruction,would you ever be able to use that piece of paper again?

  • (360) 686-3085 THE LORDS LOUD CRY,cable based ministry out of Washington.

  • Man is mortal (Job 4:17

  • or just plain insane ,forgot to pate that part

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  • Delbert you have,nt proven anything thus far nothing at all

  • Churches accepted and then taught this pagan doctrine. It came largely through the Catholic Church after the traditions of the Pharisees. It was largely through this channel that paganism got its foothold in Christendom.

    The doctrine of the immortal soul was only one of the many false doctrines which the Catholics brought in

  • NO MAN HAS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN!

  • Delbert ,Show us where it says in the bible specifically that man has an immortal soul

  • m·mor·tal [ih-mawr-tl] Show IPA adjective 1. not mortal; not liable or subject to death; undying: our immortal souls. 2. remembered or celebrated through all time: the immortal words of Lincoln. 3. not liable to perish or decay; imperishable; everlasting. 4. perpetual; lasting; constant: an immortal enemy. 5. of or pertaining to immortal beings or immortality. 6. (of a laboratory-cultured cell line) capable of dividing indefinitely.
  • question for you Delbert can you show us in the bible where it says that man has an immortla soul?

  • ordained minster Dutch savage has people like yourself call his program all the time ,most find him to be  right with what he teaches,and there are others who just call up to discern cause they don,t like what they hear!

  • so are you a baptist preacher or not?

  • I am ordained as a Baptist Preacher, but I do not follow Baptist Doctrine or any other Church Doctrine. I follow the Word of God and most Church Doctrine do not come close to following God's Word  excuse me i thought that you told me that you were not a preacher?

  • so why don,t you give Dutch savage a call,tell him that he doesn,t know what he,s talking about,his number is below he,ll answer the phone debate him. i know ,you don,t like hearing the truth,the truth of the bible is often hard for people to grasp! you don,t want to argue ,but then you tell me i don,t know what i,m talking about,are you a hypocrite?

  • lol,i beg to differ i know plenty,and i,m sure thee are many others who know also the truth of the bible vs the man made traditions you espouse as truth.You make such a bold statement telling me that i know nothing about the bible,i,ve studied the bible now for a few years,i know what i read and i can decipher truth and error when i hear it!! it doesn t take a rocket science!

  • give him a call! what have you to lose

  • he retired in 1981,and how do you know how much time he,s spent reading the bible? what kind of an answer is that?

  • he has 30 yrs experience as a minister

  • don,t appear to me or anyone else for that matter that you can put up a good argument!

  • @timsh6

    I am not here to argue, nor will I, I present truth according to the word of God, what you do with it is your business. I went back and read some more of your comments and friend you have no idea what you are talking about.

    Let me ask you two questions - Do you believe Jesus and Satan are brothers?

    What day was Jesus crucified.

    In His Love

    Delbert

  • The word soul is used over 600 times in the Old Testament and over 100 times in the New Testament but not once do we have any reference to an immortal soul. The Bible speaks of souls being born (Exodus 12:19), souls being in the grave (Psalms 89:48), souls being raised from the dead (Acts 2:31), souls being slain with the sword (Joshua 10:28-30), bleeding souls (Jeremiah 2:34), souls being added to the Church (Acts 2:41), and other similar expressions,

  • we are souls. here,an example.when i leave my home there won,t be a soul here. we ,me you ,and your neighbor were souls subject to death, why cause were mortal that,s why,we don,t posess immortlality only god has ,if you belie otherwise then your deceived by satan!

  • the soul for the last time is not immortal,that is a lie! christ only hath immortality. did christs soul see corruption while he was in the tomb? no it did not ,why is that? cause he was not there long enough,he resurrected. so his body never saw corruption (decay) as our bodies do.our corruptiblle bodies must put on corruption,immortality,christ must give it to us.

  • lying unbiblical preaching , another good video on Dutch website a must see(360) 686-3085

  • immortality of the soul vs spirtitualism , a great video by Dutch Savage on his website a must see! If you want sound biblical teaching on this subject ,don,t hesitate ,give him a call. anyone seeking truth will be glad they did,there,s a reason that i was led to this man,and hopefully he,ll have the same effect on others as he did me,i find it to be a blessing ,amen!

  • @timsh6

    Dutch Savage is an ex wrestler, most of his time has been spent in the entertainment field. He has not spent very much time reading the Bible therefore he may and I say may as I do not know the man now, not know as much about the Bible as you think.

    In His Love

    Delbert

  • (360) 686-3085 The Lords Loud cry

  • i dont, believe others unless there is ample evidence biblically to support what they tell me. my friend ordained minister dutch savage 75 yrs old is an intelligent man who exposes tradition and lies.perhaps maybe you should take your argument up with him on his website ,give him a call. He says most people call his show and are thankful for the truth ,but there are those who call up that don,t like what they hear.,because he speaks the truth ,and there,s no denying it.

  • Psalm 146:4, speaking of death, His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

  • It is the same word for "breath." It also means "life." By resemblance to breath and air in motion, it means "spirit.

  • Genesis 7:22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in ...

    everything which had in its nostrils the breath of life, of all that was on the dry land, died. English Revised Version all in whose nostrils was the breath

  • as long as my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils,. New American Standard Bible (©1995) For as long as life is in me, And the breath

  • you,r right the "spirit" breath return to god,and you die!

  • 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 (King James Version) 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Leave tradition behind ,now good bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • i,ll leave you with this And that many believers in Jesus will come to embrace "strong delusion" (2 Thessalonians 2:11)

  • Genesis 2:7 man became a soul. notice what it does not say that man has a soul,was given a soul man BECAME A SOUL! your still a follower of tradtiion it,s obvious! now i,m done with you good bye!!!

  • "thou shall not surely die" god said "you will surely die"who do you believe more god or satan? the soul is mortal,your mortal ,you die! the pagan concept of the immortal soul is the foundation for many false religions,the tower of babel ,the fountain of err! the soul that sinneth is shall die! your a sinner are you not?

  • i,ve given you ample evidence ,ample amount of scripture,i back everything i say up with the bible,can you?

  • really? ,sounds to like to me and everyone else on here that you did,nt! exposing the truth is sometimes hard for somene like you to grasp i know,it comes as a shock does it not! let me guess god spoke to you!

  • i have and i,ve learned more than you already!

  • This man is a baptist preacher,wow! amazing!

  • @timsh6

    If this reference is to me - no I am not - I am not associated with any earthly church. Over 13 years ago God had me to throw away all doctrines and traditions and take up His Word and learn it in truth and that is what I have tried to do ever since.

  • THE HEATHEN DELIGHTS IN TORTURE!

  • is a fable a true story ,or is it made up to teach a lesson?

  • you decide,i,ve provided much biblical perspective here.You can listen to the Heretics ,who think they have all the answers,or you can follow the bible and what it teaches regarding the state of the dead.i,m sticking to the bible ,you should to,it,s your decision, good day Delbert

  • @timsh6

    I will see as I read these responses. Let me assure you, I do not listen to anyone, what I share on here is what God gives to me. When I study my Bible I only use the Bible, I do not read anyone else's comments.

  • Saul should have known better than to consult with a medium, for God had warned in Leviticus 20:6, “I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them. I will cut him off from his people

  • Read 1Sam.28.7. King Saul went to a witch for advice. He never actually saw Samuel, rather He saw a demon who impersonated Samuel.

  • @timsh6

    I will give you credit for one thing - very few people who reads about that event see the demon instead of Samuel.

  • Isaiah 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

  • and i ask him why would god forbid necromancy? can demons empersonate loves ones who have died? The bible tells us that satan can transform himself into an angel of light,read your bible people!

  • @timsh6

    I do not know what this has to do with anything I shared, but yes they sure can.

  • As far as the Witch of Endor bringing up a "demon" who is "impersonating Samuel" there is nothing in the context that would suggest that. You are correct about one thing though, God does forbid consulting with psychics, but that doesn't mean it is not possible This qoute was taken from a youtube user Godluvsmormons

  • @timsh6

    I am somewhat at a loss here, this goes against the comment you made above. Study your Bible a little closer - it sure does.

  • " if you had this immortal soul which floated away from you and went to heaven,you,d be the same as jesus christ,the bible says that christ only hath immortality,people don,t pat attention to what the bible says" qoute take from Ordained minister Dutch Savage from The lords loud cry cable based ministry out of washington

  • @timsh6

    Study your Bible better it does not say your soul goes to Heaven.

    However your souls is immortal. After you study your Bible tell me where the soul goes.

  • All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul (Ps. 22:29)

  • @timsh6

    And none can - but God can

  • i,ve provided much scripture which does not support the idea of eternal torment,much scripture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • When we die you and I will 'return to dust' (Genesis 3:19). The theme is often repeated. The prophet Ezekiel, for example, writes "The soul [Heb. nephesh] who sins shall die" (Gen. 16:4, 20). In Ecclesiastes we read (Gen. 3:19-20): "What happens to the sons of men also happens to the animals ...as one dies so does the other. Surely they all have one breath .... All go to one place; all are from the dust and all return to dust". Humans - and animals - are souls. They do not have souls!

  • @timsh6

    I went and read all your responses and was going to respond to them, as I started I felt like I would be doing wrong and exposeing people to doctrine's like yours when they do not need that. If you want to discuss your beliefs with me please send me a regular email - but study your Bible first. Don't use what other people say - study it for yourself.

  • 16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. I DON,T SEE ANY MENTION OF JUST THE BODY DYING HERE!

  • did god tell adam that just his body would die? i think not!

  • The text says that YOU DIE! it does not say that just your fleshly body dies ,and that the "conscious soul" lives on.That,s simply adding to the word of god,cause it does not say that! man has decided for himself to privately add their own interpretation due to preconceived ideas about the immortal soul.

  • We are souls genesis 2:7, we do not have a soul. according to greek thought man has an eternal soul,according to the bible we are a soul and the soul dies. according to satan you don,t die" thou shall not surely die".

  • Paul declared that if there be no resurrection then Jesus .... Our faith has been in vain

  • The Promises To Abraham

    13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, ... Jesus spoke of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob being in the Kingdom of God in Matthew 8:11 ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE THEIR NOT IN HEAVEN YET! WHY WOULD JESUS HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET US IF WERE ALREADY UP IN HEAVEN,DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?

  • "All that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David ... is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13

  • When a Man Dies, Shall He Live Again? All the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come (Job 14:14)  WHEN DOES THE CHANGE COME? WHEN CHRIST RETURNS,NOT PRIOR TO THAT!

  • John 6:40, And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which sees the Son, and believes on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

  • "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt return." (Genesis3:19) The grave truly is the last resting-place

  • Psalms 37:20 The wicked shall perish ... they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

    Psalms 37:38 Transgressors will be destroyed together.

    Ezekiel 28:15, 18-19 Even Satan will become ashes on the earth as a result of the fire.

    Malachi 4:1, 3 The day cometh when the lost burn up and become ashes.

    John 3:16 Those who are lost will perish.

    Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death, not eternal life in hell fire.

    Matthew 3:12 Unquenchable fire will totally burn up the wicked.

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  • Gehenna is used many times in the New Testament, such as in Matthew 5:22, 29, and 30, and refers to a place of fire, brimstone, and punishment. Earlier we discovered that Jesus Christ clearly pinpointed the time of this fire as being the end of this world (see Matthew 13:40) and that Peter identified the place of this fire as being the heavens and the earth which are now (see 2 Peter 3:7). On

  • A parable is a brief, succinct story, in prose or verse, that illustrates a moral or religious lesson. It differs from a fable in that fables use animals, plants, inanimate objects, and forces of nature as characters, while parables generally feature human characters. It is a type of analogy.[1

  • jesus told martha that he would raise her brother Lazarus at the last day.

  • Read the parable of the wheat and the tares, the tares are gathered (harvested) by the angels and thrown into the fire when? where does the bible say that the dead are? all who are in their graves shall hear his voice.Daniel 12 says the same thing ,multitudes which sleep in the dust shall awake.There,s a resurrection to life ,and a resurrection to damnation. resurrect as defined means bring back to life

  • a parable was not meant to be taking literally,if that were the case then you,d have people from heaven looking own and talking with people in hell.Would a drop of water cool your tongue if your whole body was on fire? Peter believed in a real fire did he not,when does peter say that the fire occurs? peter says that the unjust are reserved til the day of judgment,when jesus returns and sits on his throne.The bible contrary to popular belief says that the fire comes at the end of the world.

  • it was a parable!

  • Most of Jesus' teachings was in parables, does that make them all untrue or not to believe in?

  • This video is great. I will be praying that this video gets more views, I have favorited this.

  • Thank you - give God the glory for it

  • Judges 9:8-15, how plainer can it get, TREES TALK. It's in the Bible, it is not identified as a parable, its undeniable! TREES TALK!!!!

  • Yes and the trees represent man, the bible tells us this as well.

  • Trees do not talk... it was a parable... just like Luke 16:19-31...

  • They don't - Then you must not spend much time outdoors. Go read some more in the Old Testament and you might learn something.

    In His Love

    Delbert

  • amen brother!!!

  • You're going to have to edit the title of this video because you wrote , "Hellfire and Brimstone". Anyways, perhaps the best indication of Christ Jesus that there is a hell is when He spoke of "Lazarus and the Rich Man".

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