Chinese Steam Locomotives

[gennaiafebbraio]

Look at all that black smoke

[gonetoworkbbackin5mi]

chicoms whistle crappy

[xxwzaebd]

Korea's last steam locomotive, the 901, was made in China in 1994. It is now in static display.

[hoppercar]

those whistles sound like shit..............obviously they dont have any talented whistle makers in china

[WPRR1]

@hoppercar I think they sound good.

[hoppercar]

Cant we build anything in this country anymore, were a bunch of lazy ass americans. China is ruining our economy with there imports, now they want to run there chinky shit on our railroads,

[rdfox76]

@hoppercar Dude, they're steamers built in the 90s. I don't give a fuck whether they were built in America, China, or Mars--they're beautiful and reliable and weren't cut up before I was even born.

Steam IS. And it doesn't matter who made it.

[DemeterHUN]

it sounds chinese too, absolute chinese loco :D

[applesweeter]

are these steam train still operating in China?

[efastMixer]

what were they doing in Lowa USA?

[nodarnfool]

They are back in production for countries that want to replace the exsisting tourist lines.

[UP8633]

dang nice locomotives the wistle on them is a little shrill sounding but if it works for them im fine with that.

[alex568plank]

The chinese may take them back just like they do with the pandas!

[BoilerRoom4]

Different QJ's made at different works sometimes had different airhorns and steam whistles. Some are quite beautiful. QJ and JS (2-8-2) production ended in the 80's. SY (2-8-2) production ended in 1999. If you are using a camcorder on zoom, simply bolt a 12-inch length of MDF under it. The extra mass almost completely eliminates camera shake and doubles as a shoulder rest.

[robertgift]

TRIPOD!

Nice video.

Nice catch of the startup.

Whistle is more "air" than sound.

Chinese horns and whistles are ugly crap.

Usually 4ths, 5ths or 7ths. Not pleasant and harmonic like American horns and whistles.

Hope they place Amercian type whistles on these locomotives.

Glad thengines were saved.

[Cyclist051]

Nice catch on the wheel-slip. Can be scary. I guess it must have been just the really super big load they were hauling on this excursion. it sure wasn't starting out on an upgrade!

[gaycowboy31]

I wish the Iowa Interstate would use these in regular freight service everyday but I doubt the EPA dould be too happy LOL I just got back from witnessing Chineese steam still in use in China late last year not in mainline service but in the coal mines and steel mills but no QJs unfortunatlly all little SY class 2-8-2s and one 2-6-2 and three narrowgauge 0-6-0s the only QJs I saw was in Bejing in the muselm

[BNSFandSP]

Try the Pingdingshan railway in central China. It serves a series of local coal mines. It still has QJs, but without smoke deflectors. The road also has some JS and SY class locos. I should mention, so you don't get pissed, the road has 10 diesels.

[Abitibidoug]

Were these locomotives made at Datong Locomotive Works, a company that was still making them up to the mid 1990's?

[danred806]

Im not sure about all the details. Maybee someone else on here can say. Seems like I recall someone saying they were built in the early 80's though.

[1998ChevroletS10]

@danred806 they kinda remind me of the up 484 just longer and not as strong

[TommyBNSF]

@Abitibidoug these engines were built in 1986 and 1985 respectively.

[cismok]

@Abitibidoug The loco plant Datong has ceased production of steam locos until 1988, from 1986 to 1995 it built diesel locos, and from 1996 to now it mainly constructs electrical locos. It's just an affiliated assembly plant of CNR with designs supplied from another company called Danian Loco & Rolling stocks

[gaycowboy31]

@Abitibidoug yes and I rode a SY class 2-8-2 while over there with a builder date of 1999

[rdfox76]

@Abitibidoug I'm pretty sure they were, and built in the same order as the Susquehanna's one that... I'm not sure where it went after Susie-Q realized they couldn't afford to operate it any more.

And man, steam excursions are great, but there's NOTHING like seeing steam haul revenue freight to warm the cockles of my heart! (You can also see that during excursion season near Cheyenne, since UP has their steamers haul revenue freight when deadheading to excursions, to help defray the cost!)

[Abitibidoug]

@rdfox76 Thanks for the reply. So that's why they're hauling freight. It makes sense to earn as much revenue as possible with all that capital investment. Also did you notice the logo og the Chinese National Railway on the front of the locomotive? Also I noticed the wheel slip on starting off, typical of a long and heavy train. The driving wheels are smaller diameter, suggesting it was designed as a freight locomotive.

[vanhool2]

It looks like the firemen were making black smoke for the cameras because in China these Qj's pull long freights on grade and the smoke is always white, NEVER black..

[George21T]

i want german DB electric ones here in lowa to that be sweet.

[Mephilesthedark360]

these Chinese locomotives are own by the Iowa Inerstate Railroad thay own both locomotives

[jhf0551]

There two locos are numbered 6988 and 7081. They served on Chinese Train Route 6051 in Inner Mongolia before 2006.

[Politcalamity]

@5687678 Correct. If you look at any surviving Russian P36 4-8-4, you'll see quite obvious aesthetic similarities to the Q2s. Yes, these locomotives were definitely originally Russian derived from the peak of the steam era.

[DemeterHUN]

@Politcalamity and then you can look at the Hungarian 424 and you find the root of the Russian one :)))

[wenjilu]

OMG childhood memories. China in the late '80s

[DarkTower97]

How long was that train

[danred806]

I thought I heard someone say it was 100 cars? It was pretty long.

[DarkTower97]

neeeeaaat. They should keep these loco's in service for real frieght.

[fonephat]

they will probably have to with the oil shortage.

[1961sd]

Not sure who you mean by "They" if you mean US as in U.S. We should never have eliminated steam at all. We got alot of coal!

[fonephat]

By "they" I mean the chinese.

[SeniorMinch229018]

Is the freight that the QJ's are pulling a revenue freight or a photo freight?

[danred806]

I thought it was revenue.

[Trainfanatic192]

It was.

[katablucy]

I loved the black smoke. Didn't know that you had all of these videos. Liked the one we watched the other night at your house. Guess who?

[TommyBNSF]

I love the QJs!! They're awesome!!

[SteffanLlwyd]

I guess they are fed better coal in the US. than that run-of-the-mine dust they had in China! Great locomotives for sure..

[Charaht]

Hahaha ... that is possible with a safe reactor.

[Depotmaster]

These locomotives are based on German technology from the "war-locomotives"! The first chinese hi-tech product was a copy, lol. But never mind, the machines are great.

[aeolus925]

Wtf? These locomotives are in NO WAY German. First of all, just look at the damn things. Second of all, do your research and you'll find that they're based on American practice of the 1930's. There are many, many differences between the engineering of these locomotives and of German locomotives -- they're as different as American and British locomotives.

[gaz318]

A lot of steam locomotive principlies are the same the world over but this type was being built up to the late 1980's in China so incorperate more modern features than those built in the 1930's.

[patana07]

Chinese locomotives in the US? Who owns these? What's the story behind this anyone know?

[Engineer5344]

for the most part they were burning just the dust. and depending on the grade of the coal. so it could of been bad coal and that is why the smoke was black.

[iain152c2i]

My guess is that they are hand stoked. You tend to get a less clean burn.

[Engineer5344]

that too Iain, hand bombin 2-10-2's is not easy, it takes three men, two men on top of the tender cutting the coal down, and one guy shoveling it into the firebox.

[iain152c2i]

I used to volunteer to help the night fireman when Southern, then Norfolk Southern ran excusions. Southern 4501 (my favorite) had no mechanical stoker. I never could get the hang of bumping the shovel to spread the coal out. The real fireman was a pro at it even though he was a fairly young guy.

[TrainAsia]

@Engineer5344 - yeah, back breaking work as we call it now a day.

[1mile2go]

Those coal burners sure put out that choice thick black smoke

[Engineer5344]

nice to see steam on frieght again. it is a sight and sound that has been gone too long.

[PhilipGriffin1234]

Yes I was hoping they would run them on a freight sometime, and those whistles! At least I know where to go if I can't make it to China!