US-Iranian relations at a crossroads - 05 Feb 09

[patsagainstrats]

After Iran conquers Saudi Arabia, all Sunni dogs will convert to Shi'ism in Mecca, or they will be killed.

[Globalfaction]

lol, lol, lol, You're funny man. lol, lol,

[mohammedghasemi]

If you are a furtune teller i am the Queen of England myself lololol

[seanamico]

Then we fuck Shiaism in Iran and get rid of Islam once in for all not just in Iran but in the entire middle east & Africa.

FUCK ISLAM, yes, yes I like this very much.

[lllnnn333]

best not mention china in tibet since 1950,in case the world finds out "a".hesam000

[4merCIA]

Obama is a liar and a puppet of the Jewish Lobby, AIPAC. They have already paid him off along with other politicians. Iran should negotiate the discontinuance of our massive financial US support to Israel which is only being used to buy weapons and to commit genocide. The US is responsible for making Israel into a murdering bully, armed with nuclear weapons and with the mentality of homicidal murderers. Only fools would do such a stupid thing!

[DevBlazed]

hahaa you see those men turn around like "who the fuck let that woman speak in here!!??"

[Hesam0000]

And you're equating your country's laws to every other country's laws!

You must remember, not all countries must do things your way. As I mentioned before stoning is very rare in Iran even though adultry is not rare, Iranians are totally against it hopefully the regime will totally ban it soon but again that has nothing to do with nations respect for one another.

Khomeini and revolution is another subject, you can't analyze it so easily without digging into it's roots. People have reasons.

[sandykhanom]

It will come the day that all mullas be hanged and killed one by one by Iranians

[Hesam0000]

Do you think shooting an innocent kid on the sidewalk or raping a child is more acceptable than stoning of an adulterer?

Don't forget. It's not "people" who are rarely stoned it's "adulterers" it's not "people" who are hanged, it's "Murderers, rapists, major drug-dealers, armed bank-robbers". Maybe in your country adultry is socially accepted but you can't impose your values to others unless you show that your laws resulted in less crime, safer streets and higher morality.

[Hesam0000]

Is America a real country with a real government?

HA? HA? HA?

Could America stop murder, rape, prostitution, drug smuggling? HA? HA? HA?

Then how do you expect Iran's government watch & control every move that every man makes in every corner of country, Mr. smarty?

Oh by the way,have you ever been married & in love? have you ever come back home early to see another man on top of your wife?if you know what I mean then you'd agree that even stoning is too good for dirty cheaters & adulterers.

[Icix1]

lol what? who is Iran to talk about mutual respect? It's EARNED, not distributed. If Iran wants to play ball they need to get on our level.

[xXTheHunterX360Xx]

american iranian relations should be one of obama's priorities.

[oceanbound222]

Iran forever

Iran forever

Iran forever

Iran forever

[NumaNuma187]

So, every country in the world should do what the US wants or just Iran? Why is that?

[NumaNuma187]

Pride? Pride of what? I'm not Shi'a or Iranian. If they do what you suggest, they would be doing exactly what I said: Taking it up the ass from the USA and Israel. Did you ever think that... *GASP!*... doing what the USA and Israel want could be... *GASP AGAIN!"... wrong?

[NumaNuma187]

In other words, bend over and take it up the ass from the USA and Israel?

[arabsromeo]

they r idiots because they r looking for better and stronger future for them people!!!

[bahmanjazuyeh]

Dorood bar Anjoman Padeshahi Iran

Marg bar jomhoori islami

Dorood bar Ostad Fouladvand

Payandeh Iran

[shamsi2c]

marg bar fouladvand terrorist.  marg bar anjoman padeshahi terrorist. In terroristha bachehaye mareh dar Shiraz mikoshan. marg bar neinangshoon!

[bahmanjazuyeh]

Are you Iranian or you are a Tazi!

Please read history.

Do you know Babak Khoramdin? Do you have Shahnameh at home or you have Tazi nameh. I feel sorry for you. Are you able to read?!

God bless you!

[halflifeproductionz]

Yes i agree, obama MAY do good for this financial crisis, what Pathetic g.bush bought upon the world with his pointless "war on terror" and now he leaves the white house leaving someone else in charge, and we have to feel the heat in recession and economical downfall. As for the zionists they are making good friends with mr obama, fooling him in every step into zionism! obama MAY help stabilise the economy but with the Middle eastern relations he needs to prosecute the israeli government!

[halflifeproductionz]

yep i forgot to mention bolivia and qatar! israeli's are honestly getting away with their war crimes, after 9/11 there was no debate in the white house for war most of the congress supported the idea of this brutal barbaric massacre in iraq and now israel commits mass murder on the palestinians and obama's crowd cheers & jeers as he speaks for ISRAEL'S SECURITY. im not sure if he even gives a damn about human life, this is not about politics but about children & women in palestine, no body care!

[Hesam0000]

Bush came with "TER" and created "TER".

When he left his "TER" left with him, unless he hires the 9/11 people to do another dirty job for him and cheney (as Cheney yesterday predicted).

[halflifeproductionz]

Fuck AMERICA, Iran & Venezuela are the only nations standing up to the tirade of the United States Zionists. Obama is a disappointment, he doesnt condemn the actions of israel and is in full support of israel just for the MONEY! i cold heatedly believe israel needs to be wiped off the map, too much zionist have caused attrocities amongst muslims, too much lies have been hiden in the media, im not a Muslim, but Islam is looked at the wrong all because of those hooligans from 9/11!!!

[Icix1]

lol iran thinks its big by being a doosh. We'll see how far they are going to take their threats. All talk no walk.

[unab84]

Up until now, the ''all talk no walk'' line fits more the US than Iran.

[Hesam0000]

Why? Because Iran asks for mutual respect and asks US to stop supporting the Israeli terrorists?

[ubuibiok]

Mutual respect ?

Try that in Iran, quit stoning women to death and placing death rewards on cartoonist that "Insult" your beliefs of Invisible, imaginary fairy book characters.

[Hesam0000]

There has been less than 5 stoning incidents in Iran of adulterers done mostly in small villages. The Iranian nation are more disgusted by it than the foreigners. The death rewards are offered by some fanatic organization not by Iranian nation. Mutual respect has nothing to do with regimes, the regimes come and go, the nations remain.

If you blame Iran for stoning of adulterers then should I blame America for drive-by shootings, prostitutions, church fires, racism, 11,000 murders/year, wars?

[ubuibiok]

Bull crap, go tell it to the uninformed, I'm wise to your "SHIT", Article 105 of the Islamic Penal code of Iran allows a judge to rule according to his personnel opinion, without fact or evidence the sentence of death by stoning.

All judges in Iran are obliged to follow the law, judges have and still do pass a stoning sentence without checks and balances or the burden of proof. Only a change in law will stop stoning.

[TECHKLEC]

That's the wonderful system of Sharia law they choose to live under.

[Hesam0000]

That's not wisdom buddy.

You didn't even read what I wrote.

Let me try again,maybe Mr. wise-&-informed understands this time:"You don't blame a nation for what a few unelected officials do or what a mob does in a small village.The nation of Iran are 70Mil people 99% of whom are against stoning or placing rewards on insulters of religion"& again A MUTUAL RESPECT BETWEEN THE NATION OF AMERICA & IRAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REGIMES BECAUSE REGIMES COME AND GO AND IRAN'S REGIME IS NOT ELECTED.

[blackxavior]

Mutual respect? Iran has radical ant-American propaganda posters plastered all over its facades. Iran wants us to turn our back on a recognized state while they support terrorist like Hezbollah, Hamas, Shia terror groups in places like Iraq,Yemen, Oman and elsewhere. Get real you know Iran could not hold its self together with out the social engineering of hating america to unite it. That is why there retarded pres. has beefed up the radical banter just when real change is possible.

[palestgirl84]

The US are terrorists. I can't believe you have the nerve to call other countries like Iran terrorists. Iran who has sent out humanitarian aid like food and medicine to people who have lost everything. The United States is drenched with the blood of innocent people and you have the nerve to accuse other nations who are trying to rebuild what you destroy, terrorists. You'd best keep your comments to yourself. No one in the world wants to hear ignorance when it has come at such a high cost.

[blackxavior]

You write with conviction but can not refute that Iran supports terrorist groups all over the world. What is Iran rebuilding that we destroyed? Proof, not more of your rantings.

Iran's humanitarian aid is a drop in the bucket compared to Americas, WAKE UP and join reality!

I best keep my comment to myself? Or what? I as an American was taught to listen to other peoples perspectives. It is great for staving off ignorance, you should try it.

[palestgirl84]

You're not even worth a reply. I'm going to ignore you. Like I said the world cannot afford ignorance anymore.

[blackxavior]

Your reply is proof that i was worth a reply but your just in over your head. Its okay, maybe in a few years you will be able to defend your position more effectively. Here is a hit, less rhetoric, more FACTS.

[Hesam0000]

The anti-US propaganda started when US used it's embassy to spy on Iran, when it removed our democratic leader and installed Shah when it imposed embargo on Iran when it sold Chemical bombs to Saddam-Hussain to use on Iranian Kurds and supported Saddam on an 8 year war that cost Iran half million lives and $100Bil, when it continued never-ending anti-Iran propaganda allover the world when it attacked 2 neighboring countries and killed 1mil people based on lies. Iran supports lebanon & palestine.

[Hesam0000]

Iran's president says "treat us fairly with mutual respect and stop supporting the Israeli murderers and child/woman killers" if that's retarded then I guess Bush is Einstein.

[blackxavior]

I get really tired of seeing this same old Iranian bag of lies and radical one sided perspective mixed with a few truths. We replaced Mosaddeq, True. America sold Iraq chemical bombs, False. America gave Iraq only minor tech assistance for chemical weapons. Unlike countries like Germany that built disguised chem. weapons factories for Saddam and France and Singapore how sold him tons of weapons grade chem.. True we did help Saddam in the war. True we also helped Iran exhibit 1. IRAN CONTRA.

[blackxavior]

Fact Iran was sending young boys at Iraq machine gun nest with a KEY around there necks and that's it. Fact that is crazy and any ruler that would support that is an inhuman animal. Fact, a leader like that is not in americas interest just like Saddam was not in our interest so we supported a middle east balance of power. Fact ,that one million dead is not at the hands of Americans. Those where not american death squads. They where Shia and Sunni death squads that got to a million dead.

[blackxavior]

That is your Islam at work for the million dead. Did Germany, Japan, or Korea have this problem after American invasion? Fact NO! Iran supports Shia terror groups in lebanon a action that destabilizes the country and the area. Iran support Hamas an organization that destabilizes the area. So Iran only supports strife in Lebanon & Palestine not the people. No the retarded part is the Holocaust denial, the thinking divine light enveloped him when he spoke to the UN, stuff like that is retarded.

[Hesam0000]

Did Germany/Japan have what problem? Are you talking about American nuclear genocide in Japan? or it's attack on Korea with no reason but the fear of communism?

Iran doesn't support "Terror groups". The only "Terror groups" in Middle-east are Al-qaedeh and Zionist Israeli army.

Iran only supports Palestinian's democratically elected government hamas and Lebanon's people's militia of hezbollah who are defending southern Lebanon people against Israeli childkillers.

Iran never denied holocaust.

[Hesam0000]

Iran never denied Holocaust, Iran's regime requested more reasearch done on it by neutral historians because the zionists had previously blocked the reasearch and imprisoned researchers with a hope of selling the Holocaust lies to the world to justify attack on Palestine.

Holocaust figure are all exaggerated and 7,000,000 dead is a zionist-created myth. Hitler killed millions, not just jews and the number of jews killed according to WWII documents is claimed to be 600,000 to 1.2mil.

[Hesam0000]

"Fact ,that one million dead is not at the hands of Americans. Those where not american death squads. They where Shia and Sunni death squads that got to a million dead"

BULLSHIT.

The last time I checked it was US bombs pouring on Iraq cities, it was US tanks shooting at buildings and it was Blaackwater murderers/mercenaries who were target-practicing on Iraqi teenagers. If you want to fool yourself blaming 1 million death on Iraqis then good luck but you're dreaming.

[blackxavior]

Again your lies are outrages. Read your history and look at the projected deaths on both sides if we did not drop the Nuke. How is Hamas protecting its people these days? By stealing food, by terror attacks that bring Israeli strikes the coward hamas terrorist can not defend against? How many Israelis did the BRAVE hamas fighters kill? And they have the audacity to claim victory. I guess when your a cockroach like hamas survival is victory.

[Hesam0000]

I have read the history, history says that US forces were losing the war after kamakazi plane suicide attacks started so US took the cowardly way and dropped nuke bombs on japan killing 600,000 people. By the way that war started not by Pearl-Harbor attack but by US taking over hawaii and building military bases on those islands halfway toward japan.

Hamas is stealing food? are u crazy? israel has blocked gaza from land and sea and won't allow food or medicine into gaza for 1.5mil people.

[blackxavior]

The US toke possession of Hawaii in 1893. So we where the aggressors not japan. Lets ask some chines Koreans indonesians about that. Really WHO THE HELL taught you history? We where close enough to get WWII bomber to Japan. The only step we had left was the invasion of japan ,fool!

Yes hamas is stealing food from the UN. You want me to send you the link? Or you can go to the BBC home page and read this article.

UN halts Gaza aid over 'thefts'

[Hesam0000]

The US didn't take possession of Hawaii on 1893, US illegally annexed hawaii in 1898 and it was just a US territory until 1959. The US navy sneaked into Pearl Harbor and got the lands ready for a base from 1900 to 1933 then when Japan and china got in trouble US attacked pearl-harbor on 1933. When japan noticed how US is sneaking it's military toward japan it attacked Pearl harbor on 1941. Hamas gets the food from UN and divides between gaza palestinians. Never believe BBC SOB's, they're snakes.

[lllnnn333]

your point is usa and isreal are bad ,and the rest of the world is good ?

[Hesam0000]

No. My point is: israeli zionists (not people) are bad and US foreign policies (not people) are cruel and arrogant. Also most of what you hear on western media about Iran are lies or exaggerated.

[blackxavior]

Sneaking its military towards Japan? Your so ridiculous we had possession of the Philippines at the time. You act like japan had the right to conquer all the land they did. The Japanese attacked us because they underestimate our resolve. Just like the terrorist did.

Your BBC comment has reveled me me your problem with history. You only accept what fits your idea of how the world is. If you don't believe BBC got to the UN home page then news and look at the headline article.

[Hesam0000]

US had "Possession" of Philipines at the time?!!!!! first of all what Philippines has to do with US take-over of hawaii?! and second, the US tried to annext philipines after they declared independence on 1898-1899 and the people fought american forces and defended their country until 1902 and unofficially till 1913. US killed about 1mil people in 13 years in philippines. In 1935 McArthur started sending troops to Philippines to supposedly defend that position against japan.

BBC = Snakes.

[lllnnn333]

it still seems your nit picking,every country in europe done the same,am fed up with all this anti- america and anti- isreali shit ... change the record... where the fuck do u think the japs where .... in korea since 1910, ,

[blackxavior]

What does the US presence in Hawaii or the Philippines have to do with your theory that the japanese where the good guys in WWII? Supposedly Defend? The japanese where on a brutal blitzkrieg across the pacific and TOOKOVOR the Philippines.The US subsequently liberated the Philippines from the japanese and our influence. The US had the moral ground in WWII the Axis did not get over it.

UN telling the truth.Did you go to The UN home page?Are you scared to realize what kind of scum you support.

[Hesam0000]

Yes, US has been "Liberating" people for 100 years! just as they liberated Iraq, only everytime, OOPS, they get 1,000,000 killed and they only "Liberate" countries with Oil or military importance not Darfur or Palestine or Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or...

I'm not "supporting" anyone, I'm clearing the myth your censored media keeps feeding you.

[blackxavior]

One or two problems at a time guy let us get to them. I'm sure they will have there turn!! America is going to be around for a while.

Myths my media is feeding me? Your the one that is sticking his head in the sand over the FACT that Hamas is stealing food from the UN.

[Hesam0000]

UN is sending food to Palestinians and Hamas is Palestinians elected government, claiming that Hamas steals UN food is ridiculous. What would they need those food for?! It's not as if they're all bunch of fat guys looking to shoplift a candy after they finished eating at a mexican retaurant!

[blackxavior]

How is it not stealing when the UN does not recognize Hamas and so they go in and take food and blankets by force. When you take something that is not yours from some one who says you can't have it that is STEALING. Why would hamas need that food, that is an easy question to answer. They need it to legitimize themselves. They steal the food rip the UN tag off write hamas on it and give it to grandma. Then grandma thinks what great guys these hamas people are.

[Hesam0000]

UN is controlled by the Jewish, pro-zionist-controlled US!

US and Israel prefer to call Abbas the palestinian's leader because he's a US peppet and friendly to the israeli occupiers.

Hamas, the true leader of Palestinians divides the food sent by the UN among the Palestinian people, that's if Israelis don't block the food and medicine as they always do. Hamas doesn't take the food to fill their freezers. Putting Hamas tags on food is more ridiculous than the first claim.

[blackxavior]

The Nazi party was an elected. Hamas by its action is about as legitimate as the Nazi party. The respected and internationally recognized UN tries not to cohort with terrorist. So they have there own system of distributing aid. A system that cuts out the notoriously corrupt Hamas. So what do they do? Like any batch of thugs they steal. I'm not a big fan of israel either but I'm not stupid enough to fall into this ignorant trap that it controls everything.

[Hesam0000]

The only "terror" that Hamas commits is fighting against Israeli occupiers.

That would make American Indians "Terrorist" too because foreigners attacked and occupied their lands and finally stole the land.

Compare Israeli army with hamas. How many homes has Israeli army destroyed just in the past few years in Southern Lebanon and palestine? now howmany homes has Hamas detsroyed? Howmany Israelis have killed ? and howmany hamas has killed?

Who is the terrorist here? open your eyes.

[blackxavior]

Since there are many definitions of terrorism i have adopted my own and it is the position i argue from.

A terrorist is someone that commits acts of violence for political gain ( mainly violent symbolic attacks against week targets) with no hope of a conventional military victory.

Every time Hamas sends off a rocket it has no strategy for a conventional war follow up to it or a military solution. On top of that Hamas politics are so far from reality its laughable.

Hamas= terrorist

[Hesam0000]

That's where our difference is.

My definition of terrorist is: Anyone who terrorizes someone innocent for any reason.

Based on that definition Hamas is just defending their land and trying to get their stolen lands back by any means or at least not let Israelis to have a party on their destroyed homeland. Also based on the same definition Israeli army are terrorists because they kill innocent palestinian women and children and Bush is a terrorist because he attacked 2 countries based on lies.

[blackxavior]

Based on your definition Hamas is (terrorizing someone innocent) every time they shoot a unmanned missile towards Israeli civilians.

You just catogarized Hamas as a terror org. by your own hand.

((Anyone: Hamas)) who terrorizes ((someone innocent: Israeli civilian)) for any ((reason: freedom of occupation)).

By your def. every act of violence in the world is terror. Are you a pacifist?

[Hesam0000]

Wrong.

Since those "civilian Israelis" are living on occupied/stolen lands they're considered "partners in crime" or beneficiaries of this land robbery therefore they knowingly bought the stolen watch from the burglar standing in the corner of street and they put themselves in between justice and criminals. So they should expect justice to come after them. This is exactly why Iran is against zionists because they not only ruined arab palestinians lives they also ruined jewish migrants lives.

[blackxavior]

So a baby born in Israel of an Israeli is a criminal? Not even you could believe that.

What about the Jews that bought land from Arab feudal lords pre 1948?

How was the land stolen exactly when was Palestine a state?

[blackxavior]

By your logic Aborigines, should have free reign to murder other Australians. Native Americans any non native Americans. Europeans any lets say new Muslim or African arrivals. Yep you have officially made yourself ridiculous.

[Hesam0000]

No, a baby born to an israeli is another victim of atheist zionists. Haven't you ever seen criminal mothers take their kids to shoplifting trips? it's the same thing. Israeli babies are just as much victims as palestinians. They jews who legally bought lands from rightful Arab owners (Not from the British thieves) are 100% welcome in Palestine as long as they obey the palestinian immigration laws since they're not multi-generation local citizens.

When was Palestine a state? watch below:

[blackxavior]

You can get your aid from one of two places.

An internationally recognized institution like the UN with observers from all over the world assuring that food is distributed appropriately.

OR

A rag tag batch of religious fanatics that recently had there very institution rocked by a superior military force?

[blackxavior]

Hezbollah started firing the rockets at Israel and kidnapped there soldiers to provoke them. Then Israel stomped on them and you think that is protecting the Lebanese? What is wrong with your thought process. Hezbollah after its israeli ass whooping has now contented it self to killing political opponents and gaining as much power as it can in lebanon.

Where are these documents? 1 million your joking. My great uncle liberated auschwitz and it is as bad as history tells it.

[blackxavior]

I was in Iraq and America did kill people but the number would not be any where one million (an unproven number) if not for the sectarian violence. Your concept of black water proves to me you have NO idea what they do in Iraq.

[manhattanwombat]

go iran

[R3dp055um]

OK, that's fair and reasonable. I have no problem with ending support for Israel and apologising for our mistakes in Iraq.

But how about Iran apologises for trashing our embassy and holding our diplomatic staff hostage for 444 days?

Since the most ancient of days, civilized people have always held ambassadors above such treatment. If you violate the principle of diplomatic immunity, how can anyone have relations with you?

[workingclasssociety]

do you even know why they did that, LOOK UP

CIA shah coup de tah

check your facts