Kent State shootings

[GeorgeVreelandHill]

A sad day, but the students burned a building, damaged property, rioted and more.

If they did that to my property, I would have had a legal right to shoot and kill.

And I would have done so.

Do not blame the National Guard.

Blame the students.

They started it all.

George Vreeland Hill

[serbiangirl29]

@GeorgeVreelandHill Do you also know that two of the students killed were not even involved in the protest.. they were simply bystanders.

[rosecoloredshadows]

Dang, I w ish there was audio.

[kindly4real]

I always wondered what the war in Vietnam was for. I finally learned that it was just another way the world bankers line their pockets, just like the one we are fighting in Iraq today. I always thought that the protesters were just a bunch of lazy potheads. I didnt realize that they actually had a clue. The bankers want all the money and all the power and we are nothing more than a commodity in their eyes or a play-toy.

[kindly4real]

Modern war is a product of the World Banking System. But the Bankers cant be blamed completely, I mean, this is their nature. We are just as much at blame when we fail to stand up to them. The students at Kent State stood up to them, and it made a difference.

[unicorn6776]

Removal of the audio has kind of ruined this one for audiences.

[RebelSince1776]

I agree that the students shouldnt have been killed but u must realize they werent all inocent. Hav u ever wondered y the National Guard was at Kent St? Cuz students fire bombed the ROTC building, and assualted the local police force with fists and beer bottles. They werent peaceful protestors, had they been peaceful protestors this never wouldhv hapened. along with that was masive looting, and vandalism, the mayor of Kent called it a state of emergency so the guard was called in.

[1STACCS]

@RebelSince1776 I agree! That riot could have spread all over and out of the city of Kent. Those students could have killed many people. That day, the only thing they understood was the barrel of a gun, just like a terrorist.

[wushumon88]

I can go into further detail later, but the truth is Kent State is no bodys fault except ourselves. That we let hate get in the way of things.

[wushumon88]

Hey listen up i am good ol fashioned baptist white american who supports the military, and loves his country.I said the same things you said but, i called them people a bunch of hippies who got what they diserved. but i talked with a guy who was actually there. the truth is if you look at all the facts the us gov't, and the governors of the state of ohio all played a roll in the shootings, it was a big cover up.

[taxism1]

oklahomakid07 you're a MURDERING PIECE OF STEAMING SHIT

[catwomansd]

theotis you sick son of asshole. Sure you shot many kid'S in Iraq

[oceena]

You must have been injured and brain damaged in Iraq! What other excuse could there be for your INCREDIBLY STUPID comment unless you were looking for an excuse to use the word kunt. Please go back to Iraq and stay a very VERY long time! Maybe you'll get shot in the head-like Jeff Miller, but for you it would be an improvement you SICKO!!

[oklahomakid07]

What a stupid thing to say. Medals for valor? Really? Facing a bunch of unarmed "hippies" while sporting full riot gear and automatic weapons sure merits valor. You fought in Iraq, and this country thanks you for your service. Those who fought before you for this country fought for the very freedom these "hippies" were enjoying when people like you pulled their triggers...

[Zobor111]

Those idiot guardsmen should have been hung for that.

[Fatality0217]

I'm learning this in school right now HI EVERYONE IN MRS. BILBIES CLASS!!

[drwierd]

DIE, COLLEGE STUDENTS, DIE!

[Fatality0217]

That's just wrong man your a terrible person.

[Pratchick]

How comforting it is to know that a Uni Student could post such an offensive and pathetic comment. God Bless America.

[shevegen]

What the fuck are you talking about? If people are shot, it is called murder. There is no fucking excuse with this, and a comment being offensive is less annoying than people being shot to death.

There is a difference between writing crap, and shooting someone, you see?

Learn this.

[Pratchick]

How tragic that the deaths of four young people , in those times, and under the Nixon administration should not be an trigger to the issue that the National Guard is now engaged in Iraq when the people of the US are undecided about getting out. Too many families destroyed by the meglomaniacal attitude of Governments. Let's feed the children of the world and stop destroying their communities.

[feastguy101]

people aren't undecided. you might be against, but the truth is that both Nixon and Bush WERE reelected.

[shevegen]

So what? Criminals getting elected means they can get away with murder?

You guys need to make your leaders accountable. Nixon was never convicted for murdering these people.

[feastguy101]

first of all, i'm european like you. and tell me, when someone dies at the hands of the police in germany, do you trial the chancellor? of course not. you trial the police. and that's what the americans did.

[sweetiepuss1944]

Nixon did not order the guard onto the campus, nor shootings. They were under command of Gov. Rhodes. Led to case Scheuer v Rhodes. State held to account Later rightist Supreme Court shielded similar cases via fiction of Eleventh Amendment (doesn't apply via its own terms) Therefore in Nov, cast out the right wing filth. Down with McCain-Palin! Down with the Republican Party, the Party of SATAN!

[feastguy101]

I agree with the first 3 sentences of you post. as for the rest, you're a little fanatic about something that happened almost 40 years ago.

[sweetiepuss1944]

My view of Republicans does not come from Kent State; rather, from things like the S&L

crisis of the '80's, the recession of 1990. Reagan, who promised to cut spending ran the biggest debt. After 1989 it became clear Republicans were liars on everything and no damn good. S&L crisis is Subprime's little brother. Reagan policy continued until the present time, even under Clinton.  The rightist judges, of course do not help. Enough is enough! Turn the rascals out.

[feastguy101]

that bullshit doesn't stick on me, cause you see, i live in a leftist country and i can see it sucks.

[jynx114]

hey look our gov. started the school shooting trend yay!!! now everyone just wants to be like the gov.

[jediangler]

As wrong as this was, I find it funny how 67 shots were fired into 1500 unarmed students and they only hit 13. That's some quality marksmanship right there. No wonder the U.S. military can't win a war. Good luck in Iraq.

[lezdeppelin]

i seriously think most of them tried to miss just to scare them, and what great country are you from?

[tipback]

Fuck freedom. We need a strong militarized government to honorably and constitutionally restore order among the stupid massses of the american public.

to hell with yer protests and yer stupid capitalists ways. Power to the governemnt forever.

[MegaBattleCyborg]

You fool. Fuck freedom? me and you would be enemies.

[rocknroll43211234]

hey how the fuck did you get a youtube account. your a pretty smart sheep lololololololololol. to bad i gotta report you, youtube is for people not barn yard animals. nice try though or should i say bah

[Xproletariatx]

Youre just full of contradictions. We need a "militarized" government to "constitutionally" restore order??? A militarized government is unconstitutional. And how the fuck is protesting a capitalist way???? Go back to watching FOX news and become more braindead you dumb fuck.

[iamslknick78]

National Guard - 13

Kent State - 0

Let that be a lesson to hippies that protest OIF

[brutle111]

You are misinformed. The people who lost their lives weren't hippie. In fact they weren't even involved with the protest. Look it up. I agree I don't like violent war protest but to protest peacefully unlike what happened at Kent is a right weather you like it or not. FREE SPEECH. No

[fartingpenguin]

I lol'd, the kent state shooting was quite lulzy

[Shep3792]

listen to all these anti-american fucks, no life.

[jaimesandoval1988]

Unfortunately that is what it took and is what it will take to end this war!

[Kaya300]

oops. Meant to reply to a comment. This is a great vid!

[alexpuzok]

guard is spelled g-u-a-r-d.

not gaurd, novices!

[Gabbster26]

Give the kids a break,god.

Everyone makes mistakes.

[ib2fast]

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[j0nb0y5]

Kent State Goodtimes

[stormtiger123]

That commanding Officer for that Natl Guard unit was cleared of all wrong doing, you have to be shitting me. It's alright to turn on American citizens and kill them, obviously.

[karllued]

Agree, or disagree with the content- very good work.

[sbnewman]

that stupid cunt at 5:31 should be shot out of principle.

[doomKthnx]

shes a stupid kike

[OleoStrut71]

Americans need to know that Troops and SF had

already entered Cambodia long before it was reported by the Government.

The same goes for Laos.

[Gromit801]

You stupid shit. The protest was breaking up. One of the dead was an ROTC student, and another one was just on her way to classes.

No Guardsman was hurt by more than a damn rock.

What a brainless moron you are.

[AnnaTykes]

Where did you get the actual documentary clips that KSU shows its freshmen every year? (ex- from 4:20 to 4:40) Very good for student work.

[andrewc92]

Its ok guys everyones entitled to their own opinion... I really could care less if you oppose this video. I made this when I was 13 but anyways I have new video which is much better and with slightly lower pitched commentators.

[phishin21]

why would you whatch a video if you dont like it.... personaly i thought it was great

[TheDoorsFan1232]

i thought it was a great documentary. good job guys. it is all full of truth. thank you for the vid.

[greenday775]

wow cant you guys see this is a kids project. You dont need to judge it so harshly and use such obscene language. It is wrong that the kent state ordeal happened but it is also wrong to kill the kids intrests in history. Come on people think about what you are writing before you post.

[631959]

The boys were being sent to a place where they did'nt belong much as they are now.But our goverment still had some restrant then.I don't believe the Viet Nam war as it was would have ever gone nuclear.And I never said it was unpatriotic to oppose the goverment but it is an unjust act to vandilize the property of private citizens and public bulidings that were payed for with tax payer money.The protesting of goverment acts does not have to become riotous acts to be effective in changing policies.

[631959]

I in no way shape or form support murder but I don't support the destruction of private and public properties either.I support protests but not RIOTS!

[bigbno9]

as a KSU grad fu anyome who supports murder, anywhere. what did it gain?

[bigbno9]

one

[nonethnic]

like the shot of the hippy attention hoe standing over the corpse of a comrade

[631959]

Should we not have kissed first?Sounds like you would have fit right in.

[SaigonShadow]

This event was NOT a so-called "peaceful assembly" it was a RIOT! These draft dodging miscreants were perpetual line crossers and chose to cross the line one time too often... they chose poorly. The ONLY victims were the innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire. The others received what they deserved.

[BeefBurgers]

Haha... "they chose poorly." Just like Walter Donovan at the end of "Last Crusade". Good one! That old knight cracks me up man!

[linuxguy999]

Wow, you sound like a creepy little Nazi!

[bkpker33333]

what planet are you from, Saigon person???

[631959]

RIOT,RIOT,RIOT!!!It was not a protest.I lived through it.The Americn people need to quit justifing this kind of actions.Govenor John Rhodes did exactally what the situation called for.They are damn lucky that they got away with only 4 deaths and 9 injured.I just hope people learned from this mistake!(RIOT!)

[flyingspeghettisauce]

37 YEAR OLD AUDIO TAPE FOUND OF SHOOTING FOUND NATIONAL GUARDMAN CLEARLY HEARD ON TAPE GIVING THE ORDER TO SHOOT Go to CNN news May 1 07

[Blut052]

I lived through it too..on the streets.

Young men were being drafted to fight and die in an unjust war. They werent even old enough to vote.

Nixon would have excalated to nuclear had it not been for the riots around the country.

If it is unpatriotic to oppose the government why are we not still subjects of the "Queen"?

[linuxguy999]

I certainly hope that Rotc officer who was killed crossing the campus that day burns in HELL ! He was near the riot!

[sddreamcatcher]

You MUST be a backwoods farmer with no education! My brother, Jim an, architectural student was innocently leaving Taylor Hall as the shots rang out, unaware until a student rushed in with a warning. Gov. Rhodes, the murderer, should rot in hell for that decision!

[sddreamcatcher]

You simply MUST be OUT OF YOUR MIND! Not only did they shoot kids, they tried to enter Residence halls with guns too. My brother lived it! He nearly died there just being on campus. You need a doctor!

[tojopa]

Civil disobedience is justified in political movements if peaceful means are exhausted. May 1970 was sad; burnings occurred; frustration levels rose to the point of death; the poor fought the war; fortunate sons got deferments. Ultimately, we are sad for not making any difference: today is no different. We polarize ourselves without attempts for middle ground. I mean really. Just read the rants below. Go figure: It is 2007 and we still verbally insult and kill each other. Sad.

[dutchfucker]

How old are you kids--8? Jesus, you have no business making a documentary about Kent State. Those protesters had what was coming to them. It shoul've been 4 dead plus 9 MORE dead. Those people were out of line and NOT martyrs. The lesson is DO WHAT YOU'RE told and don't fuck with the government, or else you'll get shot.

[heathenalchemist]

Nixons expansion of the war into Cambodia brought these protests about. I can't blame them for protesting and this event ultimately brought about the end of the war due to the political divisions that it created. People were fed up and as americans they had the right to say so without being killed. The 4 killed were martyrs of the war and they may have kept many more soldiers from dying in a war that the US had no reason to fight.

[dutchfucker]

whatever--lefty!!!

[sddreamcatcher]

What PLANET are U ON???????????????? My brother simply went to class and nearly died there, being inside Taylor Hall that day. You must be one of the local OHIO HILLBILLIES!

[bkpker33333]

sick bastard!!!!

[Kaya300]

Dude, holy crap. My uncle was there that day and got shot. You are such an insensitive person! Why would you want to do what you're told anyways? Wouldn't that make us a bunch of brainless morons. Get your facts straight. Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[brutle111]

Most of these people have no idea beyond the headline of what really happened there. I graduated from Kent in 2006 I had the opportunity to meet one of the wounded who gave us a walking tour of the campus explaining certain points. and as I said in an above comment the dead were innocent and had nothing to do with the protest. your uncle will probobly confirm that.

[andrewc92]

hahaha ya the audio and naratoring could be alot better thanks our new doc is A LOT BETTER so check back in like 2 weeks

[Skeeterbag]

It really is well done though, andrewc92. I work in the media (for a newspaper, but have a degree in video/audio production), and it really is well edited and the inclusion of the professor's audio from that day was great too! If you ever want tips on recording narration audio, let me know.

[Skeeterbag]

It's a great doc and VERY well edited! Good choice of clips & combination of live and still photography.

One suggestion: The audio was tinny; no low end; sounds as if narrators are 20 feet away from mike; unbalance in volume; poor choice of narrators as high voices add to "tinny" result of mix).

The music selections were an inspired choice. If the audio was re-recorded, it would be worthy of being on broadcast television.

[andrewc92]

hahaha ya the audio and naratoring could be alot better thanks

[631959]

If only the students would have listened to Prof. Glen Frank.I don't feel that the Kent State RIOT's(Let's call it by name.Protest's don't include burning private property)effected the the way the war ended.We all know that if you watch or walk around in the middle of a riot there's a good chance you could be injured or killed.There were no innocent bystanders that day.Everyone that was there that day chose to be there except the National Guard.

[linuxguy999]

Well, since some the people killed were hundreds of feet away from the "riot" attempting to go to class like good like rioters. One of them was a Rotc officer who I'm going to guess wasn't participating in the "Riot". I have no idea what universe you must be too assert that they deserved to died for trying to attend the classes that the university!

[sddreamcatcher]

You are not informed. There were students in class inside Taylor Hall,their scheduled class, and they nearly were shot. The sculpture outside the hall was riddled with bullet holes,you idiot!

[bkpker33333]

and that means they should die?

[Jnkdog]

A day that will never be forgotten...

[andrewc92]

thanks guys we're gonna post our other "NHD" doc soon

[DemonKing6six6]

Amazing.

[mmt2853]

good vid

[PeterJB]

I agree. Wonderful video. Just what is needed to teach people what really happened. The inclusion of the music as well was well placed, and sums up everything in less than 10 minutes, and also is a warning about even our current government (the inept attitude still prevails with everything from the government's response to Katrina to the breakdown of anything resembling a win in Iraq). And let's not forget where President George W. Bush was when Kent State was going on.

[gratefulhendrixdoors]

awsome man that professer part was sad

[tcwest]

If you meant the one on the bullhorn...it was he who got the crowd to move. He likely saved many lives that day. His name was Glenn Frank.

[deadhead507461]

great video