China had a totally different belief system befor the communists took over. Why the hell would someone indoctrinate a child with christianity in the first place?
If it has to be a religion, take a native version.
Or much better: Do not indoctrinate the child with any religion at all! Best solution in most places of the universe.
@SanguineBullet667 Hush now, i'm atheist as well, but this video has some truth to it. Christians, contrary to popular western atheist beliefs, are being persecuted by a China trying make their population atheist by force.
How this makes Christianity more probable, I do not know.
Symbols of dark chaos are blazing again. Showing us all a new way to follow. The army of demons empowered by revenge. The marks of lies engraved on the church. Created by the god of false love. Demons tear through holy hypocrisy. The empty cowards are now dead. Swiftly defeated by the swords of hell. For those who foolishly adored worthless holiness. Now are enslaved by sadness, melancholy and malice. We are true to Satanic wisdom. As our black witchery will spread eternally.
@Demon666Evil Just because Hitler claimed to be "Catholic" at one time does not mean he believed or practiced Christianity. Christianity is not just claiming a religion, but it's letting God take hold of your life. Many people used "Christianity" throughout history as a way to throw people off which is what Jesus Christ refers to as hipocrates or wolves in sheeps clothing. If you understood scripture, you'd not find rape, slavery, "etc" as being OK in the bible. Your ignorance is not bliss!
@Demon666Evil You're the one spewing ignorance sir. Christians accounted for 6 percent of the crusades. Christ fought against slavery to the point the roman empire had to make pagan versions of christianity in 313 AD to deal with all of the people following christ and refusing to be slaves. The vatican censored the bible into the 1500's and burned christians alive at night if they caught them with a bible. This is where we get the term roman candle. U r the ignorant one. get an education.
Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too! ;)
Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too...^^
Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too...^^
Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too...^^
I laughed out loud when I read the title. "atheist China". :D
Yeah, because they're so skeptical and good at critical thinking, that they reject dogma like religion. No, wait, they embraced the unquestionable dogma of Communism, which is the enemy of other dogma's, including religous ones.
@Flyborg also funny to read the ignorant rant of fanatic atheists. So you claim they were not atheists? So please name the god they worshiped then.
One simple question to expose your faulty, illogical pseudologic.
Let's assume Communist China was based on Christianity and not Atheism. Do you still believe they would kill any Christian they could get their hands on?
@NorwegianKafir "So you claim they were not atheists?" Nope, I make no such claim. I mock the title because it's "atheist China" just like it's "non-pixie-believing-China". They followed the non-religious unquestionable dogma of Communism, which is in competition with religious dogma. The fact that they didn't believe in any gods was irrelevant. Are you seriously asking if theistic regimes have oppressed non-believers?? Again, dogma oppresses competition, whether it's religious dogma or not.
@Flyborg you didn't answer any of my questions. You claims about unquestionable dogma etc are undocumented rant. As long as atheists get organized as in China, they will consequently develop dogma. So your rant about causality between killing of theists and communists, in opposition to causality between killing of theists and atheism is just some pseudo intellectual illogical gibberish.
@NorwegianKafir Yes I did answer. Here, let me say the important part again: "Are you seriously asking if theistic regimes have oppressed non-believers?? Again, dogma oppresses competition, whether it's religious dogma or not." If you don't know what Communism is, look it up. It's a political philosophy about a social structure with no classes or property and the State is the highest authority, to put it simply. It's oppresses religion for the same reason that religions oppress each other.
@NorwegianKafir "you argue as if an atheistic organization does not produce any dogma" No, I argue as if atheism itself does not contain dogma. A dogma can contain atheism, but atheism can not contain dogma. Many Buddhists don't believe in any gods, but they're not Buddhists because they're atheists; they're atheists because they're Buddhists. Atheism is just as related to Communist dogma as it is related to Buddhist dogma. Buddhism has religious dogma, Communism has non-religious dogma.
@NorwegianKafir "as you agree that atheism can lead to dogma.." No, I do not agree. I agreed that there's nothing about non-belief in gods which PREVENTS dogma, but I also made it very clear that atheism does not and CAN NOT have dogma, just like non-belief in pixies does not and can not have dogma. You can create a dogma which says pixies don't exist, but that doesn't mean everyone who doesn't believe in pixies automatically follows that dogma. How are you not getting this?
@Flyborg you don't agree? Are you stupid? If you fanatic atheists get organized, you don't believe you will develop a dogma as ALL ORGANIZATIONS do? Please give me logical explanation why YOU don't follow the rule and I will prove you wrong.
"If you fanatic atheists get organized, you don't believe you will develop a dogma as ALL ORGANIZATIONS do?" I have no reason to think this will happen, especially considering that most if not all popular atheists are atheists as a side effect of being skeptical freethinkers. They, like myself, are opposed to any dogma or any claim that's not justified. Dogma is based on belief, not rejection of a belief. You can't go from "Shiva doesn't exist" to any specific conclusion about anything.
@Flyborg OK I will make it REALLY simple for you. Let's say you have an organization of you fanatic brainwashed atheists. You will then agree that your organization shall:
1. Work to let people know more about atheism (viola - dogma)
2. NOT work etc.
3. You shall kill all theists to expand atheism (dogma)
4. or you shal NOT kill etc (dogma)
OF COURSE you atheists develop dogma. Just look the hateful group here on YT. I have MANY times seen how you are coordinated (dogma) on a common goal!
@NorwegianKafir "I have MANY times seen how you are coordinated (dogma) on a common goal!" Coordination = dogma? Common goal = dogma? Seriously? So if some people decide that eating animals is morally wrong, and they get together, they're automatically following a dogma? That's just silly. Dogma is an authoritative doctrine that can not be questioned. Words don't mean whatever you want them to mean. I don't think nuclear weapons should exist - is this a dogma? What if I join an advocacy group?
@Flyborg you are clearly brainwashed. Your don't connect your claims with reality. I will prove it to you.
1. You claim that dogma is "an authoritative doctrine that can not be questioned"
2. The communist party in China has changed their communism dramatically the last 20 years. So clearly they could question their authoritative doctrine and consequently using YOUR definition, they had no dogma.
3. You claimed that that theists in China were slaughtered because of (cont)
1. You claim that you atheists just have a non belief in God and no dogma. How can you then explain the unbelievable amount of time and energy you atheists here on youtube spend on harassing and trashing both Christians and Christianity here on YouTube. One example; an old man made historical videos about Romania here on youtube. He got his channel suspended and lost all his work. His crime? (cont)
He had another channel debating atheism, so the atheists flagged him just for fun. He didn't have any backup so all the work were lost.
2. You claim that Christians were slaughtered by atheists solely because of communism. How do you then explain that nearly all vile hatred, disrespect, blasphemy, bashing, trashing and personal attacks on Christians come from ATHEISTS and NOT communists here on YouTube? According to your fairytales from atheist fantasy land, atheists just don't care but (cont)
communists have dogma. Again, reality clearly proves you wrong. How do you explain that.
3. You gave Sweden and Norway. You numbers are crazy and clearly cherry picked (or most likely fabricated). In addition, you cherry picked the nations. Ignoring other nations with high proportions with atheists as well (North Korea, Cambodia). Your argumentation is as unscientific as it can get. But I see it recycled over and over again by you "science loving" atheists. Care to explain it?
4. In Scandinavia, after we got more atheism we got more rape, murder, drug abuse, VD, alcoholism, abortion, divorce, child abuse, - not less. In fact I can't see ANY desirable factor in society increased due to rise in atheism, only death, hate and destruction.
5. According to you atheists, a society free from religious oppression, bla, bla is superior to a society based on Christianity. How do you then explain that your atheism with your inherent subjective morality and moral relativism never were able to produce any kind of civilization, in the recorded history of man, while Christianity on the other hand, produced the most humane and prosperous civilization the world has ever seen?
6. If a man rapes, mutilate and murder a 12 year old girl. How can you atheists punish this poor man in any way. You believe we are governed by DNA, selfish gene, hormones, electrical impulses etc and that is all that is. So if you want to punish this guy, how do you know that he really had any choice, and were not just a victim of his own electrical impulses, hormones, selfish gene, bla,bla?
8. Why have atheists always created death and terror hell holes, whenever they have got sole power throughout the history. From the guillotines in France to the killing fields in Cambodia.
9. Do you agree that the worst terror hell hole on earth you can imagine, does not contradict atheism in any way (as long as they don't believe in any god) while it clearly will contradict the teachings of Jesus Christ?
10) Atheism isn't a "thing" that can contribute anything. It's non-belief in gods. I would rather promote critical thinking skills, skepticism, reason, and freethought, which would RESULT in atheism. Non-belief in gods doesn't contribute anything, anymore than non-belief in pixies does. It's just (I believe) true. Atheism should be a side effect of reason. I like the way Sam Harris puts it: "There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable."
@Flyborg Atheism is the belief that there is no God, and there is no evidence that is is accurate or correct, atheism is the product of insanity and irrationality, skepticism is a good thing which is the reason many here on youtube left the atheist religion.
And a lack of evidence for God? There is plenty of evidence, if you had ever wanted evidence you would've found it in half the time it took you to make those comments, but I suppose all the evidence in the world wouldn't change your mind.
@ShaggyTheClown17 Your definition of atheism applies to almost no one. I do not believe in any gods. It wouldn't be logical for me (or you) to declare "There are no pixies", because no one can EVER prove that ANYTHING doesn't exist. I guarantee you can't prove pixies don't exist - the best you can do is show that belief in them is not supported by evidence, or that it's a "silly" belief, etc. But no proof. It's the same reason I would never say "There is no God". Don't put words in my mouth.
@Flyborg Because you don't want evidence, you hate God and you want to drag other people to hell with you, that is what I've come up with talking to people like you. Problem is that information has a way of getting out no matter how much you people try to censor it, and you're forced to prey upon kids who don't know any better. Have you ever heard of santa syndrome, it is a scientific study a man called shockofgod is doing, you should look it up.
@ShaggyTheClown17 Actually, I would love evidence for gods, pixies, Bigfoot, etc. If any of those things exist, that would be very neat. Please enlighten me, which god(s) do I hate? Just yours, right? Don't tell others what they believe; you may choose your beliefs based on what you want to be true, but don't project your own bias onto others. Although you directed these comments at me, they seem to be written to a non-existent straw man who lives only in your head.
@NorwegianKafir 8) Why have atheists "always" created death and terror? How about EVER? Nope. Not one instance I know of. Unless you're continuing with this Communism bullshit. Why AREN'T non-Communist countries with lots of atheists full of death and terror? That's a better question. Why hasn't Japan degraded into moral-less vacuum of death and chaos? (Hint: It's because morality has nothing at all to do with religion.)
9) The worst hell hole imaginable contradicts basic human morality, and most religions (Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, etc) contain basic human morality, so no surprise, it contradicts them too. I've explained several times, atheism is not a system that can be followed. NOTHING is either supported or contradicted by atheism. Japan is not civil because they're "following atheism", but because they're following basic human morality. Whether gods exist has nothing to do with it.
@NorwegianKafir 7) lol. Why are you clearly wrong? Have you stopped beating your wife? Etc. Loaded questions can't be answered because they contain false premises. And don't confuse frustration with hatred. We're frustrated because of this type of shit.
6) "How can you atheists punish this poor man in any way" The exact same reason as you - because he has caused serious harm to another human being. That's the empathy angle. From a practical angle, I don't want to live in a world where murder is legal. Do you? No one does. Guess what, we made it illegal. Ta da. He's not a "victim" of his own electrical impulses - he IS his electrical impulses. If I am a soul, or if I am a brain, it doesn't matter - it's what I am.
@NorwegianKafir 5) Christianity "produced"? I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Ironically it's one of the first countries to separate Church and State, as the founders were fleeing religious persecution. The fact that a country has a lot of Christians doesn't mean Christianity "produced" it. Secondly, most of Europe is just as well off (and usually ranked much better in terms of livability) although it's significantly less religious. Japan, Britain, Norway and Sweden, too.
3) Hmm, let me think, if I'm trying to show it's Communism that causes the shit and not atheism, why on Earth would I "cherry pick" non-Communist countries to compare to Communist ones? I can't imagine. :|
"You numbers are crazy and clearly cherry picked (or most likely fabricated)" Why, because it disagrees with the conclusion you started with? Examine your own internal logic and self honesty please.
4) Scandinavia: Sources please. This seems to contradict every other study ever.
2a) I have no idea which channel you're talking about, but on the rare occasion that a well known theist has a channel flagged, the atheist community has actually mirrored the video and spoken out against the flagging. And are you not aware of the CONSISTENT campaign of false flagging and votebots against atheist videos??? It's CONSTANT and the theist community is silent about it.
2b) I never said atheists don't care. Of course we care. Again, I care about nuclear weapons too. They shouldn't exist. Is that a dogma? And what on Earth does this have to do with Communists killing people? I have a much better question for you which I already asked and you didn't answer: If Communism was not the cause of killing, why is EVERY SINGLE ONE of your examples a Communist country? EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. It's a tad suspicious. Ever heard of a "confounding factor"? That's a major one.
@Flyborg Anyway I'm not in the mood to have a discussion with you so don't bother replying, every conversation I've ever had has either ended with the atheist saying "there certainly is a God, but which religion is right?" or "BLAAAGHR, DER IZ KNO GAWD!!!#$^&$".
@ShaggyTheClown17 Feel free to not reply, but when I see incorrect statements on the interwebs, especially as a reply to myself, I have an innate instinct to respond. So I did. Pfft. ;p And the shockofgod stuff you mentioned.. it took 40 seconds into the video for him to blatantly lie (or fail to fact check) and another 70 seconds to demonstrate that he has no idea what atheism means. Those are some major, credibility killing errors.
1) Outspoken atheists do so for several reasons. First and foremost, if a belief is wrong, that should be enough reason to argue that it is wrong. Some people care about truth. There's also the harm religion causes, from wars, to censorship, to the inability to resolve issues with words because they require faith, to nonsensical laws that apply to everyone, etc. Where's the mystery here? Abolitionists spent time on their cause, too. Do they have dogma?
@NorwegianKafir Wow, so much bullshit. I'll do my best to respond.
1) Look up the word "dogma". Again, words don't mean whatever you want them to mean. It does indeed mean "an authoritative doctrine that can not be questioned", or something to that effect. If you have your own definition, please enlighten me.
2) Changing policy doesn't mean people are allowed to question it. China still throws people in jail for daring to insult the leaders. Non sequitar conclusion.
@Flyborg your pixie comparison are false. No pixies are a specific statement. No Gods are a general statement. Completely different logical consequences and implications.
"No Gods are a general statement" Not really; although there are lots of descriptions of gods, they all have enough similar attributes so as to be called "gods". There are lots of different descriptions of pixies, too, and I don't believe in any of them, even the most vague descriptions of "some kind of little magic person". It's also completely irrelevant. If someone creates a dogma which says "pixies and gods don't exist", this has nothing to do with my non-belief in pixies and gods.
@Flyborg more illogical rubbish. Since god is a general term, while pixie is a semi-general term they are not the same and have completely different logical implications.
@NorwegianKafir Whether or not pixie is a general term is completely irrelevant. It's like you're trying to miss the point. If someone who doesn't believe in pixies creates a dogma, I and other non-pixie-believers have zero reason to follow this dogma. I don't accept this person (or any person) as an authority. The fact that neither of us believe in pixies doesn't help. It's their own dogma - not the dogma of non-pixie-believers. Ditto with any atheist might decide to make a dogma.
@Flyborg I don't have time to learn you scientific method, logic and proper definitions. You sound complete brainwashed and your 70% atheists in Norway caused Norway it's high standard of living etc is just laughable and you will not find ONE scholar in no Norway who make that imbecile claim. As I already pointed out, with more atheism we got MORE divorce, rape, murder, general criminality, VD, drug abuse, alcoholism, abortion, insanity etc NOT LESS.
In short. I don't want to waste any more time on brainwashed fanatic atheists who don't understand science, don't understand logic, presents junk science and fabrications, bye.
@NorwegianKafir Whoops, I missed this question: "Would a communist regime based on Christianity still mass kill Christians" Obviously not, just like Islamic regimes don't kill Muslims. They kill Christians, Hindus, non-believers (atheists), and the "wrong type" of Muslims though. Likewise, Christian regimes have a history of killing or other otherwise oppressing Muslims, other religions, non-believers, and the "wrong type" of Christian. (Catholics killing Protestants and vice versa, etc)
@Flyborg yeah, but you claimed that communism was and INDEPENDENT and SOLE reason for atheists killing theists. If your claim that the killing of innocent Christians were solely and independently based on communism were true, they would kill the Christians regardlessly. So your claim is proven false by your own admission.
@NorwegianKafir Yes, the killing of people from competing dogmas was because they were competing with the dogma of Communism. Obviously if Christians were to be Communists they wouldn't believe the part about the State being the highest authority. "Communist Christians" is "like Christian Muslims", if we're talking about the kind of Communism practiced here. You can't be both.
@Flyborg You can't logically believe both in Christianity and Islam. Atheism is not an intrinsic part of communism. And if it were, then atheism would also be an intrinsic part of dogma. And consequently your "argument" would fail again.
"Atheism is not an intrinsic part of communism." That's true, it's not. But they way it is practiced in these countries, it is. The State is the highest authority, and you many not question the State. It's not like they ONLY killed religious people. They killed ANYONE who threatened the State's authority. This includes Buddhists, many of whom don't believe in any gods. The number of gods you believe in doesn't really matter. It's whether you obey the State as the highest authority.
@NorwegianKafir SUPPOSED to? Whoah, the goal post is moving! You acted like being Christian would prevent oppression. It does not. History proves this. And I'm not claiming that atheism prevents it, either, only that there's no logical line from "I don't believe in gods" to "let's kill religious people".
@Flyborg if you believe history proves that you must be retarded. Christianity is NOT the same as Christendom. Please get yourself some education or read some books.
@NorwegianKafir "Christianity is NOT the same as Christendom" No true Scottsman, eh? Christianity is a belief system about the Christian God Yahweh and Jesus. People who believe it are called "Christians". If you're going to re-define the meaning of the word and pretend that Christians never oppressed, I can do the same thing. I'm redefining atheism to mean "freethinking atheism". Freethinking atheists can't follow dogma, so Communists aren't "true" atheists. See how that works? It's dishonest.
@NorwegianKafir But I'm not blaming the teachings of Christianity for oppression done by Christians against non-Christians. I'm saying that being Christian does not prevent oppression, just like atheism doesn't. And if you want to say "Christianity doesn't command people to do this", well, neither does atheism, because atheism doesn't say anything about anything. It's just a word for non-belief in gods. That's all.
@Flyborg within atheism you can behave like Satan himself and still be a good atheist. You can't do that and be a good Christian. That's a major difference. If you can't see it, you are truly brainwashed.
@NorwegianKafir "within atheism you can behave like Satan himself and still be a good atheist." Holy cow, how are you not getting this. There is no "WITHIN" atheism. Atheism isn't a set of rules which says "do whatever you want". It's NOT a set of rules. I explained this already. Atheism does not say "the Earth is spherical", but that doesn't mean it says "the Earth is flat". It doesn't say "here are some rules", but that doesn't mean it says "there are no rules".
@Flyborg Is it anything within atheism that says it is wrong or immoral to rape, kill or torture innocent people?
That is what you get with your insane and evil subjective morality and moral relativism. That's why atheists killed more than 100 million innocent people within less than 100 years, more than anyone else the the recorded history of man. But of course you fanatic atheists are such hypocrites and cowards that you deny any link. Pathetic.
@NorwegianKafir "Is it anything within atheism that says.." There is nothing within atheism which says ANYTHING about ANYTHING, because atheism is not a belief system, it's a word to describe non-belief in any gods. Humans, however, based on empathy and practicality, have decided that murder, rape, etc are unacceptable. This is generally true all over the world, regardless of religion (or lack there of). The religions simply claim to own these human traits. They do not.
@NorwegianKafir "ok, so you agree that to kill, rape and torture .. is alright within atheism" Only in the same way that it's alright when religions do it. In other words, it's NOT alright, and I NEVER SAID IT WAS. What I said (maybe you were distracted by something shiny) was that our moral rules come from empathy and practicality, and have NOTHING to do with religion or lack there of. Atheism says nothing about the shape of the world - that doesn't mean atheism says it's flat. Think about it.
@Flyborg if you kill, rape and torture, this is forbidden within Christianity, so for you to say that this is the same as atheism is completely untrue.
Well, we saw how great your morality based empathy and practicability was in every death camp in EVERY country ruled solely by atheists.
Care to explain the word "terror" and your atheist empathy and practicality? Somehow you fanatic atheists just love death, torture and decay.
"Well, we saw how great your morality.." MY morality? You mean HUMAN morality? Humans all over the world have generally the same rules. They can also break these rules, regardless of their religion or lack there of. Sometimes they use the religion as an excuse, sometimes they use nationalism or xenophobia or other methods. HUMANS forbid killing. HUMANS find ways to excuse it. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, and non-religious people ALL forbid it and they ALL find excuses to bypass their own rules.
@Flyborg no I mean morality based on atheism. It really functioned really well. Worst horror story in the history of mankind.
Somehow you atheists NEVER were able to produce any civilization, or anything even remotely close to a civilization, - based on your retarded and evil subjective morality and moral relativism. Care to explain that?
@NorwegianKafir "I mean morality based on atheism" You can't base morality on atheism. You're stuck in this notion that morality comes from a God. If you believe that morality comes from a God, and then this God ceases to exist, sure, morality ceases to exist. But I do NOT believe morality comes from a God. It comes from ourselves - empathy and practicality. A civilization where murder is okay would cease die out at once. That's why even piranhas don't generally kill each other.
@Flyborg ah, I am getting so tired off repeatedly try to explain to you even the most basic and commonly agreed upon axioms.
This is absolutely last time I try, and if you still don't get it, you surely are both brainwashed and delusional.
If you have a society, as Europe now, based upon SUBJECTIVE MORALITY AND MORAL RELATIVISM it then follows LOGICALLY that it is based on ATHEISM, since theism or deism would give OBJECTIVE MORALITY.
@NorwegianKafir If someone believes that disease is caused by demons because their religion says so, and I believe it's caused by germs, am I "basing this belief on atheism"? If someone believes that morality comes from their God, and I believe it comes from ourselves, am I "basing this belief on atheism"? No, in both cases, for the exact same reason. My non-belief in gods has NOTHING to do with the things that I do believe, whether it's the cause of disease or the source of morality.
@Flyborg what about an atheist nation where "science" says that ugly and unintelligent people ought to be killed in order to create a great nation with beautiful intelligent people. That would be a great atheist paradise for you atheists, right?
@NorwegianKafir ".."science" says that ugly and unintelligent people ought to be killed" Science is a method of learning about the universe. Science does not say how things should be. Gravity explains how matter attracts matter. If someone wants to create a philosophy that "people should stay on the ground because gravity says so", and they start shooting planes out of the sky, that's not justified by science. The scientific method explains how things are, not how they should be.
There are thousands of subjective moralities around the world, and the only difference mine and yours is that I don't pretend mine is objective. Most of them claim to be objective, and none can prove it. There's a reason we no longer have slavery or stone unruly children to death, and it's NOT because we found some secret passages in the Bible. ALL civilizations are based on subjective morals, and many of the best functioning countries have 70%/85% atheists. (Norway, Sweden, etc)
@Flyborg oh here we go again, MORE sich delusional "facts" from psycho, dogmatic brainwashed atheists.
Norway and Sweden are NOT 70 and 80% atheist. After we got more of you sick atheism we got MORE murder, rape, criminality, divorce, alcoholism, drug abuse NOT LESS. Care to explain that?
Among the worlds WORST nations you have high degree of atheists: North Korea, former Cambodia, former USSR etc etc.
@NorwegianKafir Where are you getting that from? I'm getting it from surveys in which they actually asked people if they believe in a God, and 70%/85% said "no". The vast majority don't believe in any gods, and the countries have some of the least crime and most freedoms on the planet. And if Communism isn't the source of the problem, why are you mentioning NOTHING BUT Communist countries? It's an amazing coincidence that these countries which are horrible due to atheism HAPPEN to be Communist.
@LordMalice6d9 Fake Lord, you are a joke. I know how many of the atheist communists were secular Jews or with Jewish background. You don't. And for your Confucius rant, does that mean that they were any less atheists? Or what is your incoherent point. And where is your documentation? Don't they have a library at your mental hospital, Mr, Napoleon, (or was it Lord)?
@NorwegianKafir Those who argued against slavery based on "All men are created equal" were just as justified as those who argued for it based on the rules set in the Bible for how to treat your slaves. The point is, the morality of Christians changed. Slavery stopped being okay. But we had the Bible this entire time. Every time it changes, it just means you got the objective morality wrong last time. But you can never prove you got it right this time. I can't either, but I don't claim to.
"Hitler based his extermination of Jews on Darwinism." Apart from being a total red herring, don't start this shit. Eugenics has been around long before we knew that life evolved. The freaking ancient Greeks practiced it. Survival of the fittest explains how things are, not how they should be, and it has nothing to do with Darwin or evolution, which also has nothing to do with religion, and it DEFINITELY has nothing to do with this conversation.
@SanguineBullet667 hmmm, arrogant atheist with cap locks. A sure tell tale sign for a typicial low-IQ uninformed atheist moron.
Hitler rejected Christianity. He was part of the occult Thule order. That's why all the Swastikas etc. He justified killing off retards, jews etc based on Darwinism. According to Christianity we are ALL created equal. That's why Hitler and the Nazi state invented and promoted a new form for Christianity, positive Christianity, where the Jew Jesus were taken out.
I'm not going to bother watching the video; there's enough nonsense in the information box. I'd like to see evidence clearly showing a link between atheist belief and 20th century atrocities. Otherwise, I'd like you to show me some sort of atheist doctrine that explicitly advocates murder. What you don't seem to understand is that in order to establish a dictatorial or totalitarian state, elimination of religion is necessary. An "atheist state" is simply a by-product of this.
nothing exists! boogeta boogeta!!! (this comment is not meant to be offensive, if you find it offensive please send your hate mail to the north pole. p.o. box reindeer street)
your right, america doesnt prosecute athiests. a number of people think theyre bad people. of course like i said in another comment this doesnt count all of the humans. which is why this argument will have no end.
@nVei06 dont hate jews there our friends athist want to kill the jew so are one an athiest? you sound like one i believe in jesus christ and all religions i know jew are violent history but you don't understand forgiveness
you won't get elected to public office in like 7 states in the union, that and if you are openly atheist you probably won't get elected to public office
I use an assumed proof that hell exists because I feel that there is evidence that heaven is real. If there is a heaven then there must be an opposite which is usually defined as hell.
The Bible is a failed hypothesis. It falls short of explaining the phenomena that we can see with our very eyes. The earth isn't 10,000 years old, There was no flood, Bats aren't birds, the world isn't flat, and it wasn't all made in a week.
so if these are the claims made in the Bible and they are false, then the heaven/hell story loses credibility. No I don't believe in Hell or Heaven. If you could show me objective evidence for Heaven then by all means please share it with me.
I don't know how old the earth is. Nor do I know how dinosaurs fit into the picture.
I do know that bats aren't shown as birds or vise versa. There was never a claim any where that the earth was flat ether.
I don't believe in Macroevolution because there is not one fossil that shows one species becoming another species. I don't by the Big Bang because that defies every law of math and physics.
I am willing to respectfully disagree with you. I will study more and try to give better responses.
Yeah, you could definitely stand to do some MAJOR studying. Your usage of the non-word "macroevolution" shows you've been indoctrinated AGAINST science. Macroevolution is the same thing as microevolution, just over a longer period of time. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
And the Big Bang Theory defies no scientific laws or theories. It's a cosmological model for how the universe got into its current state, and is nearly unanimously supported by the scientific community.
@Eastmanarium are you completely stupid? If my child get darker hair than me or are taller, that's evidence for my offspring eventually turning into a fly or something else? If you believe micro and macro-evolution is completely the same, then you are just a fanatical delusional atheist nutcase.
@NorwegianKafir LOLOL - your analogy shows your ignorance about evolution. Micro and macro evolution are the SAME EXACT PROCESS. You're essentially saying that 1+1=2, but that 1+1+1 CANNOT equal 3! It would be inevitably for it to culminate in macroevolution. I'm sorry, I don't qualify as the nutcase here. I'm not the scientific denialist.
@Eastmanarium same case you idiot? So if I am taller than my father, that's your "proof" that your offspring can turn into a banana or whatever. Because it's the same process?
Using your insane atheist logic, if I make typing errors that the proof that Shakespeare was written by accident due to typing errors.
Your 1+1 blah, blah, analogy is clearly retarded and shows that you REALLY don't understand science.
@NorwegianKafir Are you seriously this stupid? We've observed macroevolution. You don't know crap about what you're talking about. You lack even basic logic or even basic scientific literacy.
@Eastmanarium Genesis is about evolution. If you read it in the original native hebrew it was written in, it pretty much accounts for the first widely written data on evolution. Jews will tell you that the english translations are inadequate to their original talmud where genesis comes from. How does that float your boat when some theology academia is dumped in your lap?
Who told you the claims you purported were made in the bible? First of all the bible NEVER said the Earth is 10000 years old. It said it was FORMED in 6 days (or 6000 years). The duration DURING creation & the duration AFTER creation till today are not the same. Think b/4 confusion. The bible said the Earth is CIRCULAR or round; also Luk.17:34-36, not flat. It never said bats are birds (show me) & all prophecies regarding what occurs in these end times said by the bible are 100% accurate so far.
They aren't many records of athiest die for there beliefs. Maybe they just don't want to die because it is illogical to die for there beliefs. There are tons of records of religious people die because they refused to convert even threat by force. Many people who fight injustic in society are religious inspired even it seems impossible. For example, Martin Luther King Civil Rights Movement, White Rose of 1930's Nazi Germany, Nat Turner's Slave Rebellion, and John Brown abolitionist.
"Start with the books since they are easier to find. "
christ-tards only have one set of books: the self contradicting fairy tales of bronze age goat herders who thought that world was flat and that a cosmic jewish zombie sacrificed himself to himself for the poorly made creation he made.
The Western Civilization is based on our Judeo-Christian heritage, so your "one book" statement just show what kind of retarded fool you are. So tell me, ahteist wanker, do they just love books and science in atheist paradise North-Korea, free from religious "oppression" (whine) and just hate books and science in the overly religious USA? According to you and your rather ugly personality disorder, clearly that must be the case.
More shit taken rigth out of your fanatic atheist ass "thought that world was flat ". So, can you please name all the major Christian scholars claiming that the world was flat based on the Bible, the last 2 000 years? If you can't, it just proves that your claim is just a delusional myth created by atheist psychopaths to taunt the reputation of Christianity.
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I think you meant to say that Western Civilization was founded in spite of the Judeo- Christian albatrose around our neck.
There is nothing in the Bible that speaks of human freedom, democracy or personal liberty. Rather it promotes blind ignorance and hate. Sexism, racism, slavery, rape, war and injustice. Its not my heritage, but feel free to claim that as your own,
You are delusional, keep smoking that crack and play video games.
Care to explain how Europe was before and after Christianity? What changed and why?
It's really funny to see you atheist assholes trying to "explain" what the Bible really says. It's so easy to "argue" constantly using recycled atheist straw man fallacies, you don't even have to think, not even have a brain. You copy the shit and spew it all over YouTube.
Damn, its almost like the idiot christians forget about their buddies in China like Kai-Shek or the blood shed spurned on by self proclaimed Christians during the Taiping Rebellion, or even the mass in justices done on the "heathen" Chinese by Christian missionaries/traders.
Problems in China are much more complicated than the simple minded idea of blaming political zealotry and mindless bloodshed on atheism.
Spoken as a true ATHEIST ASSHOLE! So when atheists kill hundreds of millions within 100 years all over the world, it's all so very complicated and you can't (shocker) blame it on godless atheism teaching that you do whatever hell you want for there are no God(s).
BUT as the retarded atheist hypocrite you are, a rebellion completely contrary to Christian teaching with one guy claiming to be the brother of Jesus, MUST be blamed on Christians. Nice logic - atheist moron.
China had a totally different belief system befor the communists took over. Why the hell would someone indoctrinate a child with christianity in the first place?
If it has to be a religion, take a native version.
Or much better: Do not indoctrinate the child with any religion at all! Best solution in most places of the universe.
M0rdH0rst 1 month ago
religion is poison! i hope that all religions are banned and that a new world order arises in the next decade!
33guyfawkes 1 month ago
@33guyfawkes Thanks Commie. Hail Stalin. I love how he killed all those people. He was a great man. Your a Jackass.
Lone432345 1 week ago
To all Christians,
Chinese ppl respect what you believe, but please, please, please leave China alone. You are not welcomed.
MultiAlpha111 2 months ago
silly christians are silly worshiping their mythology and trying to take over the world like the Sith or a mindless zombie horde.
SanguineBullet667 2 months ago in playlist Movie: China Cry - Christian Persecution in Atheist China
@SanguineBullet667 Hush now, i'm atheist as well, but this video has some truth to it. Christians, contrary to popular western atheist beliefs, are being persecuted by a China trying make their population atheist by force.
How this makes Christianity more probable, I do not know.
TheSturdyWall 2 months ago
@SanguineBullet667 Hold on, I am a Sith. We don't need mindless christians or zombies.
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can we just keep the debates out and comment on what you think on the vid
paulinotou 5 months ago
This is so fake. I am sorry but this is not how it was in China.
Shanghaibluelulu 6 months ago
stupid, stupid christions
milanjeftic1992 8 months ago
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Demon666Evil 8 months ago
@Demon666Evil Just because Hitler claimed to be "Catholic" at one time does not mean he believed or practiced Christianity. Christianity is not just claiming a religion, but it's letting God take hold of your life. Many people used "Christianity" throughout history as a way to throw people off which is what Jesus Christ refers to as hipocrates or wolves in sheeps clothing. If you understood scripture, you'd not find rape, slavery, "etc" as being OK in the bible. Your ignorance is not bliss!
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@appraiser1979 Exactly!!!
MPaulHolmes 1 month ago
@Demon666Evil You're the one spewing ignorance sir. Christians accounted for 6 percent of the crusades. Christ fought against slavery to the point the roman empire had to make pagan versions of christianity in 313 AD to deal with all of the people following christ and refusing to be slaves. The vatican censored the bible into the 1500's and burned christians alive at night if they caught them with a bible. This is where we get the term roman candle. U r the ignorant one. get an education.
SupremeAmerican 8 months ago
1 Corinthians 1:24
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
vico100 9 months ago
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Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too! ;)
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Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too...^^
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Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too...^^
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Religions aim at controlling as many aspects of your life as possible. Some religions have more totalitarian aspects than others. Islam for example is extremely totalitarian, to the point that it very often looks more like a political system then an actual religion. When you look at the way religions are shaped and structured... they're totalitarian ideas that very much resemble fascist communism. Atheism: a state of disbelief. It has no dogma. NOT BELIEVING in any other god IS atheism too...^^
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Our china don't need Christian, Bible and religion is bullshit
xwy1234567 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Hypocrites, when it is reversed no one cares.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
Get a life this story is based on a real woman's life, grow up
KittyKatBob 1 year ago
LOL I did not know everyone knew English in china, they do know religion is still legal in china?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
I laughed out loud when I read the title. "atheist China". :D
Yeah, because they're so skeptical and good at critical thinking, that they reject dogma like religion. No, wait, they embraced the unquestionable dogma of Communism, which is the enemy of other dogma's, including religous ones.
Deceptive title is deceptive.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg also funny to read the ignorant rant of fanatic atheists. So you claim they were not atheists? So please name the god they worshiped then.
One simple question to expose your faulty, illogical pseudologic.
Let's assume Communist China was based on Christianity and not Atheism. Do you still believe they would kill any Christian they could get their hands on?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "So you claim they were not atheists?" Nope, I make no such claim. I mock the title because it's "atheist China" just like it's "non-pixie-believing-China". They followed the non-religious unquestionable dogma of Communism, which is in competition with religious dogma. The fact that they didn't believe in any gods was irrelevant. Are you seriously asking if theistic regimes have oppressed non-believers?? Again, dogma oppresses competition, whether it's religious dogma or not.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg you didn't answer any of my questions. You claims about unquestionable dogma etc are undocumented rant. As long as atheists get organized as in China, they will consequently develop dogma. So your rant about causality between killing of theists and communists, in opposition to causality between killing of theists and atheism is just some pseudo intellectual illogical gibberish.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Yes I did answer. Here, let me say the important part again: "Are you seriously asking if theistic regimes have oppressed non-believers?? Again, dogma oppresses competition, whether it's religious dogma or not." If you don't know what Communism is, look it up. It's a political philosophy about a social structure with no classes or property and the State is the highest authority, to put it simply. It's oppresses religion for the same reason that religions oppress each other.
Flyborg 1 year ago
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@Flyborg No, you didn't answer any of my questions? Do I have to repeat them with numbers?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@Flyborg you argue as if an atheistic organization does not produce any dogma. Only in atheist lala land don't you have any dogma.
And again explain with logic and documentation how:
Atheists killing of theists has nothing to do with atheism and everything to do with communism.
Would a communist regime based on Christianity still mass kill Christians as the communist regimes based on atheism ALWAYS did?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "you argue as if an atheistic organization does not produce any dogma" No, I argue as if atheism itself does not contain dogma. A dogma can contain atheism, but atheism can not contain dogma. Many Buddhists don't believe in any gods, but they're not Buddhists because they're atheists; they're atheists because they're Buddhists. Atheism is just as related to Communist dogma as it is related to Buddhist dogma. Buddhism has religious dogma, Communism has non-religious dogma.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg as you agree that atheims can lead to dogma, your whole argument against atheists killing theists based on atheism is complete groundless.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "as you agree that atheism can lead to dogma.." No, I do not agree. I agreed that there's nothing about non-belief in gods which PREVENTS dogma, but I also made it very clear that atheism does not and CAN NOT have dogma, just like non-belief in pixies does not and can not have dogma. You can create a dogma which says pixies don't exist, but that doesn't mean everyone who doesn't believe in pixies automatically follows that dogma. How are you not getting this?
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg you don't agree? Are you stupid? If you fanatic atheists get organized, you don't believe you will develop a dogma as ALL ORGANIZATIONS do? Please give me logical explanation why YOU don't follow the rule and I will prove you wrong.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
"If you fanatic atheists get organized, you don't believe you will develop a dogma as ALL ORGANIZATIONS do?" I have no reason to think this will happen, especially considering that most if not all popular atheists are atheists as a side effect of being skeptical freethinkers. They, like myself, are opposed to any dogma or any claim that's not justified. Dogma is based on belief, not rejection of a belief. You can't go from "Shiva doesn't exist" to any specific conclusion about anything.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg then you clearly don't know what dogma is.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@Flyborg OK I will make it REALLY simple for you. Let's say you have an organization of you fanatic brainwashed atheists. You will then agree that your organization shall:
1. Work to let people know more about atheism (viola - dogma)
2. NOT work etc.
3. You shall kill all theists to expand atheism (dogma)
4. or you shal NOT kill etc (dogma)
OF COURSE you atheists develop dogma. Just look the hateful group here on YT. I have MANY times seen how you are coordinated (dogma) on a common goal!
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "I have MANY times seen how you are coordinated (dogma) on a common goal!" Coordination = dogma? Common goal = dogma? Seriously? So if some people decide that eating animals is morally wrong, and they get together, they're automatically following a dogma? That's just silly. Dogma is an authoritative doctrine that can not be questioned. Words don't mean whatever you want them to mean. I don't think nuclear weapons should exist - is this a dogma? What if I join an advocacy group?
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg you are clearly brainwashed. Your don't connect your claims with reality. I will prove it to you.
1. You claim that dogma is "an authoritative doctrine that can not be questioned"
2. The communist party in China has changed their communism dramatically the last 20 years. So clearly they could question their authoritative doctrine and consequently using YOUR definition, they had no dogma.
3. You claimed that that theists in China were slaughtered because of (cont)
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
communism and not atheism, because communists had dogma.
4. So reality clearly proves you wrong, even when we use your own definitions.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
Please answer the following questions:
1. You claim that you atheists just have a non belief in God and no dogma. How can you then explain the unbelievable amount of time and energy you atheists here on youtube spend on harassing and trashing both Christians and Christianity here on YouTube. One example; an old man made historical videos about Romania here on youtube. He got his channel suspended and lost all his work. His crime? (cont)
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
He had another channel debating atheism, so the atheists flagged him just for fun. He didn't have any backup so all the work were lost.
2. You claim that Christians were slaughtered by atheists solely because of communism. How do you then explain that nearly all vile hatred, disrespect, blasphemy, bashing, trashing and personal attacks on Christians come from ATHEISTS and NOT communists here on YouTube? According to your fairytales from atheist fantasy land, atheists just don't care but (cont)
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
communists have dogma. Again, reality clearly proves you wrong. How do you explain that.
3. You gave Sweden and Norway. You numbers are crazy and clearly cherry picked (or most likely fabricated). In addition, you cherry picked the nations. Ignoring other nations with high proportions with atheists as well (North Korea, Cambodia). Your argumentation is as unscientific as it can get. But I see it recycled over and over again by you "science loving" atheists. Care to explain it?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
4. In Scandinavia, after we got more atheism we got more rape, murder, drug abuse, VD, alcoholism, abortion, divorce, child abuse, - not less. In fact I can't see ANY desirable factor in society increased due to rise in atheism, only death, hate and destruction.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
5. According to you atheists, a society free from religious oppression, bla, bla is superior to a society based on Christianity. How do you then explain that your atheism with your inherent subjective morality and moral relativism never were able to produce any kind of civilization, in the recorded history of man, while Christianity on the other hand, produced the most humane and prosperous civilization the world has ever seen?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
6. If a man rapes, mutilate and murder a 12 year old girl. How can you atheists punish this poor man in any way. You believe we are governed by DNA, selfish gene, hormones, electrical impulses etc and that is all that is. So if you want to punish this guy, how do you know that he really had any choice, and were not just a victim of his own electrical impulses, hormones, selfish gene, bla,bla?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
7. Why are you fanatic atheists clearly the most evil and hateful group here on YouTube.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
8. Why have atheists always created death and terror hell holes, whenever they have got sole power throughout the history. From the guillotines in France to the killing fields in Cambodia.
9. Do you agree that the worst terror hell hole on earth you can imagine, does not contradict atheism in any way (as long as they don't believe in any god) while it clearly will contradict the teachings of Jesus Christ?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
10. What have atheism contributed to human mankind, except from the word "terror"?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
10) Atheism isn't a "thing" that can contribute anything. It's non-belief in gods. I would rather promote critical thinking skills, skepticism, reason, and freethought, which would RESULT in atheism. Non-belief in gods doesn't contribute anything, anymore than non-belief in pixies does. It's just (I believe) true. Atheism should be a side effect of reason. I like the way Sam Harris puts it: "There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable."
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg Atheism is the belief that there is no God, and there is no evidence that is is accurate or correct, atheism is the product of insanity and irrationality, skepticism is a good thing which is the reason many here on youtube left the atheist religion.
And a lack of evidence for God? There is plenty of evidence, if you had ever wanted evidence you would've found it in half the time it took you to make those comments, but I suppose all the evidence in the world wouldn't change your mind.
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@ShaggyTheClown17 Your definition of atheism applies to almost no one. I do not believe in any gods. It wouldn't be logical for me (or you) to declare "There are no pixies", because no one can EVER prove that ANYTHING doesn't exist. I guarantee you can't prove pixies don't exist - the best you can do is show that belief in them is not supported by evidence, or that it's a "silly" belief, etc. But no proof. It's the same reason I would never say "There is no God". Don't put words in my mouth.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg Because you don't want evidence, you hate God and you want to drag other people to hell with you, that is what I've come up with talking to people like you. Problem is that information has a way of getting out no matter how much you people try to censor it, and you're forced to prey upon kids who don't know any better. Have you ever heard of santa syndrome, it is a scientific study a man called shockofgod is doing, you should look it up.
ShaggyTheClown17 1 year ago
@ShaggyTheClown17 Actually, I would love evidence for gods, pixies, Bigfoot, etc. If any of those things exist, that would be very neat. Please enlighten me, which god(s) do I hate? Just yours, right? Don't tell others what they believe; you may choose your beliefs based on what you want to be true, but don't project your own bias onto others. Although you directed these comments at me, they seem to be written to a non-existent straw man who lives only in your head.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir 8) Why have atheists "always" created death and terror? How about EVER? Nope. Not one instance I know of. Unless you're continuing with this Communism bullshit. Why AREN'T non-Communist countries with lots of atheists full of death and terror? That's a better question. Why hasn't Japan degraded into moral-less vacuum of death and chaos? (Hint: It's because morality has nothing at all to do with religion.)
Flyborg 1 year ago
9) The worst hell hole imaginable contradicts basic human morality, and most religions (Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, etc) contain basic human morality, so no surprise, it contradicts them too. I've explained several times, atheism is not a system that can be followed. NOTHING is either supported or contradicted by atheism. Japan is not civil because they're "following atheism", but because they're following basic human morality. Whether gods exist has nothing to do with it.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir 7) lol. Why are you clearly wrong? Have you stopped beating your wife? Etc. Loaded questions can't be answered because they contain false premises. And don't confuse frustration with hatred. We're frustrated because of this type of shit.
Flyborg 1 year ago
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6) "How can you atheists punish this poor man in any way" The exact same reason as you - because he has caused serious harm to another human being. That's the empathy angle. From a practical angle, I don't want to live in a world where murder is legal. Do you? No one does. Guess what, we made it illegal. Ta da. He's not a "victim" of his own electrical impulses - he IS his electrical impulses. If I am a soul, or if I am a brain, it doesn't matter - it's what I am.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir 5) Christianity "produced"? I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Ironically it's one of the first countries to separate Church and State, as the founders were fleeing religious persecution. The fact that a country has a lot of Christians doesn't mean Christianity "produced" it. Secondly, most of Europe is just as well off (and usually ranked much better in terms of livability) although it's significantly less religious. Japan, Britain, Norway and Sweden, too.
Flyborg 1 year ago
3) Hmm, let me think, if I'm trying to show it's Communism that causes the shit and not atheism, why on Earth would I "cherry pick" non-Communist countries to compare to Communist ones? I can't imagine. :|
"You numbers are crazy and clearly cherry picked (or most likely fabricated)" Why, because it disagrees with the conclusion you started with? Examine your own internal logic and self honesty please.
4) Scandinavia: Sources please. This seems to contradict every other study ever.
Flyborg 1 year ago
2a) I have no idea which channel you're talking about, but on the rare occasion that a well known theist has a channel flagged, the atheist community has actually mirrored the video and spoken out against the flagging. And are you not aware of the CONSISTENT campaign of false flagging and votebots against atheist videos??? It's CONSTANT and the theist community is silent about it.
Flyborg 1 year ago
2b) I never said atheists don't care. Of course we care. Again, I care about nuclear weapons too. They shouldn't exist. Is that a dogma? And what on Earth does this have to do with Communists killing people? I have a much better question for you which I already asked and you didn't answer: If Communism was not the cause of killing, why is EVERY SINGLE ONE of your examples a Communist country? EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. It's a tad suspicious. Ever heard of a "confounding factor"? That's a major one.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg Anyway I'm not in the mood to have a discussion with you so don't bother replying, every conversation I've ever had has either ended with the atheist saying "there certainly is a God, but which religion is right?" or "BLAAAGHR, DER IZ KNO GAWD!!!#$^&$".
peace.
ShaggyTheClown17 1 year ago
@ShaggyTheClown17 Feel free to not reply, but when I see incorrect statements on the interwebs, especially as a reply to myself, I have an innate instinct to respond. So I did. Pfft. ;p And the shockofgod stuff you mentioned.. it took 40 seconds into the video for him to blatantly lie (or fail to fact check) and another 70 seconds to demonstrate that he has no idea what atheism means. Those are some major, credibility killing errors.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Question answering time:
1) Outspoken atheists do so for several reasons. First and foremost, if a belief is wrong, that should be enough reason to argue that it is wrong. Some people care about truth. There's also the harm religion causes, from wars, to censorship, to the inability to resolve issues with words because they require faith, to nonsensical laws that apply to everyone, etc. Where's the mystery here? Abolitionists spent time on their cause, too. Do they have dogma?
Flyborg 1 year ago
3) Yes, they were killed because of Communism. They were considered a threat to the State. You haven't shown otherwise.
4) I'm not sure how we got to "reality proves you wrong". This is coming out of nowhere. Again, non sequitar.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Wow, so much bullshit. I'll do my best to respond.
1) Look up the word "dogma". Again, words don't mean whatever you want them to mean. It does indeed mean "an authoritative doctrine that can not be questioned", or something to that effect. If you have your own definition, please enlighten me.
2) Changing policy doesn't mean people are allowed to question it. China still throws people in jail for daring to insult the leaders. Non sequitar conclusion.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg your pixie comparison are false. No pixies are a specific statement. No Gods are a general statement. Completely different logical consequences and implications.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
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"No Gods are a general statement" Not really; although there are lots of descriptions of gods, they all have enough similar attributes so as to be called "gods". There are lots of different descriptions of pixies, too, and I don't believe in any of them, even the most vague descriptions of "some kind of little magic person". It's also completely irrelevant. If someone creates a dogma which says "pixies and gods don't exist", this has nothing to do with my non-belief in pixies and gods.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg more illogical rubbish. Since god is a general term, while pixie is a semi-general term they are not the same and have completely different logical implications.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Whether or not pixie is a general term is completely irrelevant. It's like you're trying to miss the point. If someone who doesn't believe in pixies creates a dogma, I and other non-pixie-believers have zero reason to follow this dogma. I don't accept this person (or any person) as an authority. The fact that neither of us believe in pixies doesn't help. It's their own dogma - not the dogma of non-pixie-believers. Ditto with any atheist might decide to make a dogma.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg I don't have time to learn you scientific method, logic and proper definitions. You sound complete brainwashed and your 70% atheists in Norway caused Norway it's high standard of living etc is just laughable and you will not find ONE scholar in no Norway who make that imbecile claim. As I already pointed out, with more atheism we got MORE divorce, rape, murder, general criminality, VD, drug abuse, alcoholism, abortion, insanity etc NOT LESS.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
In short. I don't want to waste any more time on brainwashed fanatic atheists who don't understand science, don't understand logic, presents junk science and fabrications, bye.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "I don't have time to learn you scientific method, logic and proper definitions." Clearly.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg I didn't flag this. It was auto since you quoted so much of my statement.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Whoops, I missed this question: "Would a communist regime based on Christianity still mass kill Christians" Obviously not, just like Islamic regimes don't kill Muslims. They kill Christians, Hindus, non-believers (atheists), and the "wrong type" of Muslims though. Likewise, Christian regimes have a history of killing or other otherwise oppressing Muslims, other religions, non-believers, and the "wrong type" of Christian. (Catholics killing Protestants and vice versa, etc)
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg yeah, but you claimed that communism was and INDEPENDENT and SOLE reason for atheists killing theists. If your claim that the killing of innocent Christians were solely and independently based on communism were true, they would kill the Christians regardlessly. So your claim is proven false by your own admission.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Yes, the killing of people from competing dogmas was because they were competing with the dogma of Communism. Obviously if Christians were to be Communists they wouldn't believe the part about the State being the highest authority. "Communist Christians" is "like Christian Muslims", if we're talking about the kind of Communism practiced here. You can't be both.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg You can't logically believe both in Christianity and Islam. Atheism is not an intrinsic part of communism. And if it were, then atheism would also be an intrinsic part of dogma. And consequently your "argument" would fail again.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
"Atheism is not an intrinsic part of communism." That's true, it's not. But they way it is practiced in these countries, it is. The State is the highest authority, and you many not question the State. It's not like they ONLY killed religious people. They killed ANYONE who threatened the State's authority. This includes Buddhists, many of whom don't believe in any gods. The number of gods you believe in doesn't really matter. It's whether you obey the State as the highest authority.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg tell me exactly where within Christianity Christians are supposed to oppress, kill and rape other people or religions?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir SUPPOSED to? Whoah, the goal post is moving! You acted like being Christian would prevent oppression. It does not. History proves this. And I'm not claiming that atheism prevents it, either, only that there's no logical line from "I don't believe in gods" to "let's kill religious people".
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg if you believe history proves that you must be retarded. Christianity is NOT the same as Christendom. Please get yourself some education or read some books.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "Christianity is NOT the same as Christendom" No true Scottsman, eh? Christianity is a belief system about the Christian God Yahweh and Jesus. People who believe it are called "Christians". If you're going to re-define the meaning of the word and pretend that Christians never oppressed, I can do the same thing. I'm redefining atheism to mean "freethinking atheism". Freethinking atheists can't follow dogma, so Communists aren't "true" atheists. See how that works? It's dishonest.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg No, moron. I say that you can't blame CHRISTIANITY for what CHRISTIANS do it it is CONTRARY to the teaching within CHRISTIANITY.
Your no true Scotsman claim is completely meaningless.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir But I'm not blaming the teachings of Christianity for oppression done by Christians against non-Christians. I'm saying that being Christian does not prevent oppression, just like atheism doesn't. And if you want to say "Christianity doesn't command people to do this", well, neither does atheism, because atheism doesn't say anything about anything. It's just a word for non-belief in gods. That's all.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg within atheism you can behave like Satan himself and still be a good atheist. You can't do that and be a good Christian. That's a major difference. If you can't see it, you are truly brainwashed.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "within atheism you can behave like Satan himself and still be a good atheist." Holy cow, how are you not getting this. There is no "WITHIN" atheism. Atheism isn't a set of rules which says "do whatever you want". It's NOT a set of rules. I explained this already. Atheism does not say "the Earth is spherical", but that doesn't mean it says "the Earth is flat". It doesn't say "here are some rules", but that doesn't mean it says "there are no rules".
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg Is it anything within atheism that says it is wrong or immoral to rape, kill or torture innocent people?
That is what you get with your insane and evil subjective morality and moral relativism. That's why atheists killed more than 100 million innocent people within less than 100 years, more than anyone else the the recorded history of man. But of course you fanatic atheists are such hypocrites and cowards that you deny any link. Pathetic.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "Is it anything within atheism that says.." There is nothing within atheism which says ANYTHING about ANYTHING, because atheism is not a belief system, it's a word to describe non-belief in any gods. Humans, however, based on empathy and practicality, have decided that murder, rape, etc are unacceptable. This is generally true all over the world, regardless of religion (or lack there of). The religions simply claim to own these human traits. They do not.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg ok, so you agree that to kill, rape and torture 100 million innocent people is perfectly alright within atheism per se.
And as I know you are an dishonest, uneducated, illogical moron, please google "per se" before you give me more of your quasi intellectual rant.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "ok, so you agree that to kill, rape and torture .. is alright within atheism" Only in the same way that it's alright when religions do it. In other words, it's NOT alright, and I NEVER SAID IT WAS. What I said (maybe you were distracted by something shiny) was that our moral rules come from empathy and practicality, and have NOTHING to do with religion or lack there of. Atheism says nothing about the shape of the world - that doesn't mean atheism says it's flat. Think about it.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg if you kill, rape and torture, this is forbidden within Christianity, so for you to say that this is the same as atheism is completely untrue.
Well, we saw how great your morality based empathy and practicability was in every death camp in EVERY country ruled solely by atheists.
Care to explain the word "terror" and your atheist empathy and practicality? Somehow you fanatic atheists just love death, torture and decay.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
"Well, we saw how great your morality.." MY morality? You mean HUMAN morality? Humans all over the world have generally the same rules. They can also break these rules, regardless of their religion or lack there of. Sometimes they use the religion as an excuse, sometimes they use nationalism or xenophobia or other methods. HUMANS forbid killing. HUMANS find ways to excuse it. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, and non-religious people ALL forbid it and they ALL find excuses to bypass their own rules.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg no I mean morality based on atheism. It really functioned really well. Worst horror story in the history of mankind.
Somehow you atheists NEVER were able to produce any civilization, or anything even remotely close to a civilization, - based on your retarded and evil subjective morality and moral relativism. Care to explain that?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir "I mean morality based on atheism" You can't base morality on atheism. You're stuck in this notion that morality comes from a God. If you believe that morality comes from a God, and then this God ceases to exist, sure, morality ceases to exist. But I do NOT believe morality comes from a God. It comes from ourselves - empathy and practicality. A civilization where murder is okay would cease die out at once. That's why even piranhas don't generally kill each other.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg ah, I am getting so tired off repeatedly try to explain to you even the most basic and commonly agreed upon axioms.
This is absolutely last time I try, and if you still don't get it, you surely are both brainwashed and delusional.
If you have a society, as Europe now, based upon SUBJECTIVE MORALITY AND MORAL RELATIVISM it then follows LOGICALLY that it is based on ATHEISM, since theism or deism would give OBJECTIVE MORALITY.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir If someone believes that disease is caused by demons because their religion says so, and I believe it's caused by germs, am I "basing this belief on atheism"? If someone believes that morality comes from their God, and I believe it comes from ourselves, am I "basing this belief on atheism"? No, in both cases, for the exact same reason. My non-belief in gods has NOTHING to do with the things that I do believe, whether it's the cause of disease or the source of morality.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg what about an atheist nation where "science" says that ugly and unintelligent people ought to be killed in order to create a great nation with beautiful intelligent people. That would be a great atheist paradise for you atheists, right?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir ".."science" says that ugly and unintelligent people ought to be killed" Science is a method of learning about the universe. Science does not say how things should be. Gravity explains how matter attracts matter. If someone wants to create a philosophy that "people should stay on the ground because gravity says so", and they start shooting planes out of the sky, that's not justified by science. The scientific method explains how things are, not how they should be.
Flyborg 1 year ago
There are thousands of subjective moralities around the world, and the only difference mine and yours is that I don't pretend mine is objective. Most of them claim to be objective, and none can prove it. There's a reason we no longer have slavery or stone unruly children to death, and it's NOT because we found some secret passages in the Bible. ALL civilizations are based on subjective morals, and many of the best functioning countries have 70%/85% atheists. (Norway, Sweden, etc)
Flyborg 1 year ago
@Flyborg oh here we go again, MORE sich delusional "facts" from psycho, dogmatic brainwashed atheists.
Norway and Sweden are NOT 70 and 80% atheist. After we got more of you sick atheism we got MORE murder, rape, criminality, divorce, alcoholism, drug abuse NOT LESS. Care to explain that?
Among the worlds WORST nations you have high degree of atheists: North Korea, former Cambodia, former USSR etc etc.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago 37
@NorwegianKafir Where are you getting that from? I'm getting it from surveys in which they actually asked people if they believe in a God, and 70%/85% said "no". The vast majority don't believe in any gods, and the countries have some of the least crime and most freedoms on the planet. And if Communism isn't the source of the problem, why are you mentioning NOTHING BUT Communist countries? It's an amazing coincidence that these countries which are horrible due to atheism HAPPEN to be Communist.
Flyborg 1 year ago 2
@NorwegianKafir You have to be BY FAR one of the stupidest most reactionary idoits on Youtube.
Communism was created, funded, financed and pushed by Jews, yet a retard like you is defending Jews.
Besides, China has always throughout its history always been collectivistic by virtue of its very culture and history, all the way back to Confucious.
I am absolutely astounded at the stupidity, selective fact seeking and congnitive dissonance of Augustianian Christian nutcases.
LordMalice6d9 1 year ago
@LordMalice6d9 Fake Lord, you are a joke. I know how many of the atheist communists were secular Jews or with Jewish background. You don't. And for your Confucius rant, does that mean that they were any less atheists? Or what is your incoherent point. And where is your documentation? Don't they have a library at your mental hospital, Mr, Napoleon, (or was it Lord)?
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir you're adorable.
Eastmanarium 5 months ago
@NorwegianKafir What about nigger africa? They are all very religious.
fuckyou121212121212 3 months ago
@fuckyou121212121212 sorry, besides proving yourself to be a rabid atheist racist, what exactly is your point?
NorwegianKafir 2 months ago
@NorwegianKafir Ironically, this is comming from someone who's username is "NorwegianKafir".
fuckyou121212121212 1 month ago
@fuckyou121212121212 how come?
NorwegianKafir 1 month ago
@Flyborg the end of slavery came from Christendom, driven by Christians based on the Bible where everyone is created equal.
Hitler based his extermination of Jews on Darwinism.
In atheist paradises, free from oppression of religion, like Cambodia, North Korea etc EVERYONE were slaves to the atheist state.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago 29
@NorwegianKafir Those who argued against slavery based on "All men are created equal" were just as justified as those who argued for it based on the rules set in the Bible for how to treat your slaves. The point is, the morality of Christians changed. Slavery stopped being okay. But we had the Bible this entire time. Every time it changes, it just means you got the objective morality wrong last time. But you can never prove you got it right this time. I can't either, but I don't claim to.
Flyborg 1 year ago
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"Hitler based his extermination of Jews on Darwinism." Apart from being a total red herring, don't start this shit. Eugenics has been around long before we knew that life evolved. The freaking ancient Greeks practiced it. Survival of the fittest explains how things are, not how they should be, and it has nothing to do with Darwin or evolution, which also has nothing to do with religion, and it DEFINITELY has nothing to do with this conversation.
Flyborg 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir it also created it.
hitler was a born and bred catholic and darwinism has nothing to do with darwins' beliefs, he didn't even coin the term nor had those beliefs
north korea isn't atheist, they believe their ruler is a demi-god who is in heaven.
LEARN SOMETHING INSTEAD OF SPOUTING THE CRUD YOU SEE ON STUPID CHRISTIAN WEBSITES
SanguineBullet667 2 months ago in playlist Movie: China Cry - Christian Persecution in Atheist China
@SanguineBullet667 hmmm, arrogant atheist with cap locks. A sure tell tale sign for a typicial low-IQ uninformed atheist moron.
Hitler rejected Christianity. He was part of the occult Thule order. That's why all the Swastikas etc. He justified killing off retards, jews etc based on Darwinism. According to Christianity we are ALL created equal. That's why Hitler and the Nazi state invented and promoted a new form for Christianity, positive Christianity, where the Jew Jesus were taken out.
NorwegianKafir 2 months ago
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@NorwegianKafir HAHAHAHA *breathes* HAHAHAHAHA you are truly ignorant of history.
SanguineBullet667 2 months ago
china was way ahead of its time during the days of jesus it would be a shame if they fell back to the dark ages of christianity
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
I'm not going to bother watching the video; there's enough nonsense in the information box. I'd like to see evidence clearly showing a link between atheist belief and 20th century atrocities. Otherwise, I'd like you to show me some sort of atheist doctrine that explicitly advocates murder. What you don't seem to understand is that in order to establish a dictatorial or totalitarian state, elimination of religion is necessary. An "atheist state" is simply a by-product of this.
ruinedbyidiots 2 years ago
nothing exists! boogeta boogeta!!! (this comment is not meant to be offensive, if you find it offensive please send your hate mail to the north pole. p.o. box reindeer street)
chobe156 2 years ago
china prosecutes christians while america prosecutes atheists. my comments is pointless because this doesnt account for all the people.
chobe156 2 years ago
How does America prosecute atheists?
thesnake52000 2 years ago
your right, america doesnt prosecute athiests. a number of people think theyre bad people. of course like i said in another comment this doesnt count all of the humans. which is why this argument will have no end.
chobe156 2 years ago
Yeah, also want to add a number of people think Christians are bad people as well.
thesnake52000 2 years ago
yes a number of people think christians are bad people. any other people u wanna add?
chobe156 2 years ago
@chobe156 these are devil's people and it comes from jews whom run slave drug and sex trade. they hate morality, God, truth, and jesus.
nVei06 2 years ago
@nVei06 dont hate jews there our friends athist want to kill the jew so are one an athiest? you sound like one i believe in jesus christ and all religions i know jew are violent history but you don't understand forgiveness
urantiruslan 3 months ago
you won't get elected to public office in like 7 states in the union, that and if you are openly atheist you probably won't get elected to public office
MrBugbear 2 years ago
......der Film hat eine ganz klare Botschaft......es lohnt sich für seine Überzeugungen zu kämpfen.....
Yvonneschalom 2 years ago
we get taught a messed up history in the U.S.
zachr120 2 years ago
LOL. You POOR oppressed Christians.
snugsaltynutz 2 years ago
wow your stupid, I won't even bother preaching I'll be in Heaven enjoying myself, why DO YOU CHOOSE to go to HELL, SNUGSALTYNUTZ
zachr120 2 years ago
Hell doesn't exist. Save your bullshit scare tactics for the 6 year olds who by this shit.
snugsaltynutz 2 years ago
it's not a scare tactic, it's truth and I don't want you there
zachr120 2 years ago
The truth is provable.... so if you can't PROVE Hell exists then you can't call it the truth.... It is merely your belief.
Hell is a scare tactic.
snugsaltynutz 2 years ago
it's not a scare tactic, it is truth, and your thinking of scientific fact, not truth
zachr120 2 years ago
@snugsaltynutz Can you prove that hell doesnt exist?
Do you think that there is an after life?
I use an assumed proof that hell exists because I feel that there is evidence that heaven is real. If there is a heaven then there must be an opposite which is usually defined as hell.
nesuada 2 years ago
no you can't prove that hell exist's because it doesn't ^_^
i can say the same thing you said about unicorns that wouldn't make them real
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
The Bible is a failed hypothesis. It falls short of explaining the phenomena that we can see with our very eyes. The earth isn't 10,000 years old, There was no flood, Bats aren't birds, the world isn't flat, and it wasn't all made in a week.
so if these are the claims made in the Bible and they are false, then the heaven/hell story loses credibility. No I don't believe in Hell or Heaven. If you could show me objective evidence for Heaven then by all means please share it with me.
snugsaltynutz 2 years ago
I don't know how old the earth is. Nor do I know how dinosaurs fit into the picture.
I do know that bats aren't shown as birds or vise versa. There was never a claim any where that the earth was flat ether.
I don't believe in Macroevolution because there is not one fossil that shows one species becoming another species. I don't by the Big Bang because that defies every law of math and physics.
I am willing to respectfully disagree with you. I will study more and try to give better responses.
nesuada 2 years ago
Yeah, you could definitely stand to do some MAJOR studying. Your usage of the non-word "macroevolution" shows you've been indoctrinated AGAINST science. Macroevolution is the same thing as microevolution, just over a longer period of time. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
And the Big Bang Theory defies no scientific laws or theories. It's a cosmological model for how the universe got into its current state, and is nearly unanimously supported by the scientific community.
Eastmanarium 2 years ago
@Eastmanarium Do you agree that Merriam-Websters online dictionary is an impartial judge? I want to use it for word definitions.
nesuada 2 years ago
@Eastmanarium are you completely stupid? If my child get darker hair than me or are taller, that's evidence for my offspring eventually turning into a fly or something else? If you believe micro and macro-evolution is completely the same, then you are just a fanatical delusional atheist nutcase.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir LOLOL - your analogy shows your ignorance about evolution. Micro and macro evolution are the SAME EXACT PROCESS. You're essentially saying that 1+1=2, but that 1+1+1 CANNOT equal 3! It would be inevitably for it to culminate in macroevolution. I'm sorry, I don't qualify as the nutcase here. I'm not the scientific denialist.
Eastmanarium 1 year ago
@Eastmanarium same case you idiot? So if I am taller than my father, that's your "proof" that your offspring can turn into a banana or whatever. Because it's the same process?
Using your insane atheist logic, if I make typing errors that the proof that Shakespeare was written by accident due to typing errors.
Your 1+1 blah, blah, analogy is clearly retarded and shows that you REALLY don't understand science.
NorwegianKafir 1 year ago
@NorwegianKafir Are you seriously this stupid? We've observed macroevolution. You don't know crap about what you're talking about. You lack even basic logic or even basic scientific literacy.
Eastmanarium 10 months ago
@Eastmanarium Genesis is about evolution. If you read it in the original native hebrew it was written in, it pretty much accounts for the first widely written data on evolution. Jews will tell you that the english translations are inadequate to their original talmud where genesis comes from. How does that float your boat when some theology academia is dumped in your lap?
SupremeAmerican 8 months ago
@SupremeAmerican You can't confirm anything without the original language, let alone any language backing up evolutionary processes.
I can't tell if you're a troll or what.
Eastmanarium 5 months ago
P.S. I know I didn't respond to your entire question.
nesuada 2 years ago
Who told you the claims you purported were made in the bible? First of all the bible NEVER said the Earth is 10000 years old. It said it was FORMED in 6 days (or 6000 years). The duration DURING creation & the duration AFTER creation till today are not the same. Think b/4 confusion. The bible said the Earth is CIRCULAR or round; also Luk.17:34-36, not flat. It never said bats are birds (show me) & all prophecies regarding what occurs in these end times said by the bible are 100% accurate so far.
7olusegun 2 years ago
if you believe in god you will go to oogla boogla where they tickle you for eternety
Ghettonerd101 2 years ago
you're retarded
zachr120 2 years ago
do you realize what you sound like?
"ill be in heaven enjoying myself"
chobe156 2 years ago
you think I'm sick for posting an innocent comment, that's disgusting of you to think that
zachr120 2 years ago
sorry if i disgusted you. by the way i never called you sick (wink wink)
chobe156 2 years ago
oh, I thought you thought it was suggestive
zachr120 2 years ago
They aren't many records of athiest die for there beliefs. Maybe they just don't want to die because it is illogical to die for there beliefs. There are tons of records of religious people die because they refused to convert even threat by force. Many people who fight injustic in society are religious inspired even it seems impossible. For example, Martin Luther King Civil Rights Movement, White Rose of 1930's Nazi Germany, Nat Turner's Slave Rebellion, and John Brown abolitionist.
RunDanson 2 years ago
the founding fathers fought for the separation of church and state
MrBugbear 2 years ago 2
"Start with the books since they are easier to find. "
christ-tards only have one set of books: the self contradicting fairy tales of bronze age goat herders who thought that world was flat and that a cosmic jewish zombie sacrificed himself to himself for the poorly made creation he made.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
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proudinfidel111 2 years ago
The Western Civilization is based on our Judeo-Christian heritage, so your "one book" statement just show what kind of retarded fool you are. So tell me, ahteist wanker, do they just love books and science in atheist paradise North-Korea, free from religious "oppression" (whine) and just hate books and science in the overly religious USA? According to you and your rather ugly personality disorder, clearly that must be the case.
proudinfidel111 2 years ago 3
More shit taken rigth out of your fanatic atheist ass "thought that world was flat ". So, can you please name all the major Christian scholars claiming that the world was flat based on the Bible, the last 2 000 years? If you can't, it just proves that your claim is just a delusional myth created by atheist psychopaths to taunt the reputation of Christianity.
proudinfidel111 2 years ago 2
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I think you meant to say that Western Civilization was founded in spite of the Judeo- Christian albatrose around our neck.
There is nothing in the Bible that speaks of human freedom, democracy or personal liberty. Rather it promotes blind ignorance and hate. Sexism, racism, slavery, rape, war and injustice. Its not my heritage, but feel free to claim that as your own,
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
You are delusional, keep smoking that crack and play video games.
Care to explain how Europe was before and after Christianity? What changed and why?
It's really funny to see you atheist assholes trying to "explain" what the Bible really says. It's so easy to "argue" constantly using recycled atheist straw man fallacies, you don't even have to think, not even have a brain. You copy the shit and spew it all over YouTube.
proudinfidel111 2 years ago
Damn, its almost like the idiot christians forget about their buddies in China like Kai-Shek or the blood shed spurned on by self proclaimed Christians during the Taiping Rebellion, or even the mass in justices done on the "heathen" Chinese by Christian missionaries/traders.
Problems in China are much more complicated than the simple minded idea of blaming political zealotry and mindless bloodshed on atheism.
CauseIHadToAsk 2 years ago
Spoken as a true ATHEIST ASSHOLE! So when atheists kill hundreds of millions within 100 years all over the world, it's all so very complicated and you can't (shocker) blame it on godless atheism teaching that you do whatever hell you want for there are no God(s).
BUT as the retarded atheist hypocrite you are, a rebellion completely contrary to Christian teaching with one guy claiming to be the brother of Jesus, MUST be blamed on Christians. Nice logic - atheist moron.
proudinfidel111 2 years ago 2