@Akillesblood no indeed. If you refuse vaccination when faced with a pandemic emergency, then you'll most likely go very noisily and painfully, as will the other people you infect. You're not currently faced with mandatory vaccination because there is no pandemic emergency of sufficient magnitude to warrant such a move. If there were one, then you'd be the worst kind of irresponsible citizen to refuse treatment proven to eradicate the spread of lethal infection. It's not your choice.
Proponents of vaccines rely on two things to make their point of view know to others; Theory, and History. Neither of these are relevant to the issue of forced vaccination in the future. Today vaccines are manufactured in China whose government has sworn to destroy America and has a history of shipping contaminated products to the America. The other vital piece overlooked is that once administered a vaccine can not be reversed.
@fsoiberg how many people now die of smallpox? How many people used to die of smallpox? Vaccination works. It's been proven in peer reviewed scientific studies and it's been proven in the field. We no longer have to worry about smallpox BECAUSE vaccination works.
Individual liberty is a secondary considerations when faced with real pandemic emergencies. The minimal risks associated with vaccination have to be balanced against the risks of not vaccinating.
@dj2baduk Your knowledge of vaccines is from corporate controlled media. The science you reference is accurate and misleading. See contamination: HCG contamination causes sterility in woman. Viral Fragments cause spontaneous abortion and genetic mutation. Immune response during pregnancy causes Autism and Schizophrenia. Thimerosal (mercury) in any amount causes brain damage. Look up Gion Beret Syndrome and 60 Minuets. Watch video: Vaccines and Brain Development and Global Vaccines Agenda
@fsoiberg simple question for you? Where does your "knowledge" of vaccines come from? How have you judged it to be accurate and not misleading? If any of the claims you've made are true then HOW have they been established as true? Where's the peer-reviewed study? Mercury certainly does not cause brain damage in ANY quantity. You were born with mercury in you. I have mercury fillings and guess what - I don't have brain damage. If what you say is true just show me the evidence, not opinions.
@dj2baduk You did not watch the videos I listed or research Gion Beret Syndrome... I already answered your question; it’s time for you to come up to speed. As the lecture states; there is no study involving live cells and mercury where the cells are the winners. “As mad as a hatter.” is a reference to mercury poisoning. Your failure to observe your mercury poisoned, is not evidence you are not. All who live in the West have been mercury poisoned. Thank the Rockefeller family for that.
@fsoiberg No I didn't watch the videos you listed. If they're not based on peer-reviewed scientific studies then they're BS. I know about Guillian-Barre sysndrome (I assume that what you mean). What's it got to do with vaccines? Like autism, there was a perceived link which turned out to be baseless. I have none of the symptoms of mercury poisoning. Neither does my vaccinated daughter. You have nothing to base your claims on and it's deeply irresponsible to spread this nonsense. Shame on you!
@dj2baduk I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make him drink it. You chose to live in ignorance (failing to view the scientific studies reported in the videos), and I on alternative points of view, open minded, shame on both of us for being human. I choose to error on the side of freedom, you choose to error on the side of forced vaccination. You live with the consequence of your point of view, I say no thank you. Will you breach the peace (the Law) for your view point, or respect freedom?
@fsoiberg no the place I choose to live in is called "reality". Google it. I believe what the evidence tells me. If someone tells me something with no evidence to back it up - I say prove it. If someone tells me something that goes contrary to the evidence - I say bullshit. What scientific studies are you referring to? None of the phrases you quoted return any results. I'll defend freedom to believe and do what they want as long as it does no harm. You spread harm - respect withdrawn. Your shame
@dj2baduk If vaccines do no harm, there would be no lawsuits or insurance fund for the victims. Demanding proof and refusing to view the evidence is a paradox that only you can resolve. You’re living in a fool’s paradise, enjoy it while it lasts.
@fsoiberg "If vaccines do no harm, there would be no lawsuits" that's just asinine. Some people have suffered ill effects as a proven direct result of a vaccine. They are a miniscule fraction of the vaccinated population and an even smaller fraction of the people who would be dead or seriously ill as a result of not-vaccinating the greater population. Whooping cough anyone? The vast majority of vaccine lawsuits are based on tenuous links e.g. autism. Guess who won't be getting a payout?
@dj2baduk I'm not the one refusing to look... Try this: "BANNED - 60 Minutes SWINE FLU VACCINE" URL's are not allowed... You'll have to do the search yourself...
@fsoiberg "Demanding proof and refusing to view the evidence is a paradox"
What evidence? If you want to send me a link then do so, but you haven't even supplied that so far and don't you think claiming my views on vaccination come from corporate controlled media while pointing me at YouTube videos is just the teensiest bit paradoxical? Hmmm?
@dj2baduk I take it from your comment that you think a news anchor reading from a teleprompter with no firsthand experience of what they are reading day after day, week after week, year after year, is equal to a doctor providing firsthand medical practice experience and research. Try Google: “Vaccines and Brain Development” and “Global Vaccines Agenda”. URL's are not allowed... You'll have to do the search yourself...
@fsoiberg how revealing that you assume other people blindly take one person's word on something without doing any research. One retired neuro-surgeon's opinion doesn't mean squat compared with peer reviewed scientific literature. It means even less when he's selling his own books and unproven, unscientific alternative remedies. I could debunk just about every one of Blailock's claims using... the same scientific literature he cherry picks for the things he "uncovers". Why don't you?
@dj2baduk Theoretical vaccines never harm anyone, only contaminated ones do harm, and once injected can never be removed. Contaminants include: SV40, hCG, MSG, Pestivirus, Viral fragments, Thimerosal (mercury), and there is no way of knowing what other contaminants can and will be introduced. The contaminants can be effective even if the vaccine is not. If you work for Big Pharma I have no hope of swaying you. I can only hope to sway those who are open. Thank you for providing that opportunity.
@fsoiberg vaccines are extensively screened. Thimerosal is not a contaminant, it is a preservative and it is, according to numerous clinical trials, completely harmless - metabolising as ethyl-mercury and passing easily and quickly from the body.
You have no hope of "swaying" me if you keep quoting the opinions and cherry-picked pseudo-science of demonstrable crackpots or purveyors of "alternative" treatments. It's easy to find out how bogus these claims are nowadays.There's really no excuse.
@dj2baduk I gave you three videos and you think all the research I have done is in one video. My inability to sway you is due to your refusal to see. Obviously you failed to comprehend the 60 Minuets video where it explains that the Swine Flu Vaccine of 1976 was switched after testing with one that was not tested. In Global Vaccine Agenda it explains that the first trial of Mercury was 100% fatal. Eugenics is not new its practitioners have been murdering people for decades if not longer.
@fsoiberg it's nothing to do with what it's "labelled" it's to do with.. you know.. WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES!! We call Sodium-Chloride "salt" because... it makes things taste salty. You do sprinkle it on your food despite the fact chlorine is a deadly toxin on its own. This is beside the point however - if we deliberately add something, it is not a contaminant BY DEFINITION. No one is injecting people with pure mercury. You've got a lot of reading to do. Get to.
Ok, he started out saying that they can't or are not mandated then ended up saying they can or are being mandated and that your only way out is to go to court? Would you even have a day in court if it came to that? I ask because all they have to do is label you a terrorist & you can be held forever with no day in court..correct? Also, they really do think of us as herds..but you obviously know that. Sickening isn't it?
@AssilemakaMelissa "He said HERD! SEE! THEY THINK WE'RE NOTHING BUT SHEEP!"
FFS get over yourself. When dealing with populations and the efficacy of infection prevention, "herd" is a useful medical and scientific term. That's all. Call it what you will - it's the effect of protecting those with no immunity in a group (herd) by virtue of their being surrounded by a larger population who are immune, thereby breaking the chain of infection.
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fsoiberg 11 months ago
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fsoiberg 11 months ago
@Akillesblood no indeed. If you refuse vaccination when faced with a pandemic emergency, then you'll most likely go very noisily and painfully, as will the other people you infect. You're not currently faced with mandatory vaccination because there is no pandemic emergency of sufficient magnitude to warrant such a move. If there were one, then you'd be the worst kind of irresponsible citizen to refuse treatment proven to eradicate the spread of lethal infection. It's not your choice.
dj2baduk 1 year ago
@sustainablehome
Proponents of vaccines rely on two things to make their point of view know to others; Theory, and History. Neither of these are relevant to the issue of forced vaccination in the future. Today vaccines are manufactured in China whose government has sworn to destroy America and has a history of shipping contaminated products to the America. The other vital piece overlooked is that once administered a vaccine can not be reversed.
Did you find a solution?
fsoiberg 1 year ago
@fsoiberg how many people now die of smallpox? How many people used to die of smallpox? Vaccination works. It's been proven in peer reviewed scientific studies and it's been proven in the field. We no longer have to worry about smallpox BECAUSE vaccination works.
Individual liberty is a secondary considerations when faced with real pandemic emergencies. The minimal risks associated with vaccination have to be balanced against the risks of not vaccinating.
Did you find a solution yet?
dj2baduk 1 year ago
@dj2baduk Your knowledge of vaccines is from corporate controlled media. The science you reference is accurate and misleading. See contamination: HCG contamination causes sterility in woman. Viral Fragments cause spontaneous abortion and genetic mutation. Immune response during pregnancy causes Autism and Schizophrenia. Thimerosal (mercury) in any amount causes brain damage. Look up Gion Beret Syndrome and 60 Minuets. Watch video: Vaccines and Brain Development and Global Vaccines Agenda
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg simple question for you? Where does your "knowledge" of vaccines come from? How have you judged it to be accurate and not misleading? If any of the claims you've made are true then HOW have they been established as true? Where's the peer-reviewed study? Mercury certainly does not cause brain damage in ANY quantity. You were born with mercury in you. I have mercury fillings and guess what - I don't have brain damage. If what you say is true just show me the evidence, not opinions.
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk You did not watch the videos I listed or research Gion Beret Syndrome... I already answered your question; it’s time for you to come up to speed. As the lecture states; there is no study involving live cells and mercury where the cells are the winners. “As mad as a hatter.” is a reference to mercury poisoning. Your failure to observe your mercury poisoned, is not evidence you are not. All who live in the West have been mercury poisoned. Thank the Rockefeller family for that.
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg No I didn't watch the videos you listed. If they're not based on peer-reviewed scientific studies then they're BS. I know about Guillian-Barre sysndrome (I assume that what you mean). What's it got to do with vaccines? Like autism, there was a perceived link which turned out to be baseless. I have none of the symptoms of mercury poisoning. Neither does my vaccinated daughter. You have nothing to base your claims on and it's deeply irresponsible to spread this nonsense. Shame on you!
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make him drink it. You chose to live in ignorance (failing to view the scientific studies reported in the videos), and I on alternative points of view, open minded, shame on both of us for being human. I choose to error on the side of freedom, you choose to error on the side of forced vaccination. You live with the consequence of your point of view, I say no thank you. Will you breach the peace (the Law) for your view point, or respect freedom?
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg no the place I choose to live in is called "reality". Google it. I believe what the evidence tells me. If someone tells me something with no evidence to back it up - I say prove it. If someone tells me something that goes contrary to the evidence - I say bullshit. What scientific studies are you referring to? None of the phrases you quoted return any results. I'll defend freedom to believe and do what they want as long as it does no harm. You spread harm - respect withdrawn. Your shame
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk If vaccines do no harm, there would be no lawsuits or insurance fund for the victims. Demanding proof and refusing to view the evidence is a paradox that only you can resolve. You’re living in a fool’s paradise, enjoy it while it lasts.
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg "If vaccines do no harm, there would be no lawsuits" that's just asinine. Some people have suffered ill effects as a proven direct result of a vaccine. They are a miniscule fraction of the vaccinated population and an even smaller fraction of the people who would be dead or seriously ill as a result of not-vaccinating the greater population. Whooping cough anyone? The vast majority of vaccine lawsuits are based on tenuous links e.g. autism. Guess who won't be getting a payout?
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk I'm not the one refusing to look... Try this: "BANNED - 60 Minutes SWINE FLU VACCINE" URL's are not allowed... You'll have to do the search yourself...
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg "Demanding proof and refusing to view the evidence is a paradox"
What evidence? If you want to send me a link then do so, but you haven't even supplied that so far and don't you think claiming my views on vaccination come from corporate controlled media while pointing me at YouTube videos is just the teensiest bit paradoxical? Hmmm?
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk I take it from your comment that you think a news anchor reading from a teleprompter with no firsthand experience of what they are reading day after day, week after week, year after year, is equal to a doctor providing firsthand medical practice experience and research. Try Google: “Vaccines and Brain Development” and “Global Vaccines Agenda”. URL's are not allowed... You'll have to do the search yourself...
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg how revealing that you assume other people blindly take one person's word on something without doing any research. One retired neuro-surgeon's opinion doesn't mean squat compared with peer reviewed scientific literature. It means even less when he's selling his own books and unproven, unscientific alternative remedies. I could debunk just about every one of Blailock's claims using... the same scientific literature he cherry picks for the things he "uncovers". Why don't you?
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk Theoretical vaccines never harm anyone, only contaminated ones do harm, and once injected can never be removed. Contaminants include: SV40, hCG, MSG, Pestivirus, Viral fragments, Thimerosal (mercury), and there is no way of knowing what other contaminants can and will be introduced. The contaminants can be effective even if the vaccine is not. If you work for Big Pharma I have no hope of swaying you. I can only hope to sway those who are open. Thank you for providing that opportunity.
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg vaccines are extensively screened. Thimerosal is not a contaminant, it is a preservative and it is, according to numerous clinical trials, completely harmless - metabolising as ethyl-mercury and passing easily and quickly from the body.
You have no hope of "swaying" me if you keep quoting the opinions and cherry-picked pseudo-science of demonstrable crackpots or purveyors of "alternative" treatments. It's easy to find out how bogus these claims are nowadays.There's really no excuse.
dj2baduk 11 months ago
@dj2baduk I gave you three videos and you think all the research I have done is in one video. My inability to sway you is due to your refusal to see. Obviously you failed to comprehend the 60 Minuets video where it explains that the Swine Flu Vaccine of 1976 was switched after testing with one that was not tested. In Global Vaccine Agenda it explains that the first trial of Mercury was 100% fatal. Eugenics is not new its practitioners have been murdering people for decades if not longer.
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@dj2baduk "Thimerosal is not a contaminant, it is a preservative..."
If I label ARSENIC; Artificial Sweetener, will you sprinkle it on your cereal, or add it to your coffee? I hope not…
fsoiberg 11 months ago
@fsoiberg it's nothing to do with what it's "labelled" it's to do with.. you know.. WHAT IT ACTUALLY DOES!! We call Sodium-Chloride "salt" because... it makes things taste salty. You do sprinkle it on your food despite the fact chlorine is a deadly toxin on its own. This is beside the point however - if we deliberately add something, it is not a contaminant BY DEFINITION. No one is injecting people with pure mercury. You've got a lot of reading to do. Get to.
dj2baduk 11 months ago
Moo.
1loydster 2 years ago
Unbelievable. So wrong in so many ways.
sharpsteve2003 2 years ago
Ok, he started out saying that they can't or are not mandated then ended up saying they can or are being mandated and that your only way out is to go to court? Would you even have a day in court if it came to that? I ask because all they have to do is label you a terrorist & you can be held forever with no day in court..correct? Also, they really do think of us as herds..but you obviously know that. Sickening isn't it?
AssilemakaMelissa 2 years ago 2
@AssilemakaMelissa "He said HERD! SEE! THEY THINK WE'RE NOTHING BUT SHEEP!"
FFS get over yourself. When dealing with populations and the efficacy of infection prevention, "herd" is a useful medical and scientific term. That's all. Call it what you will - it's the effect of protecting those with no immunity in a group (herd) by virtue of their being surrounded by a larger population who are immune, thereby breaking the chain of infection.
dj2baduk 1 year ago