4472 Flying Scotsman at York

[BENbluenose]

long live the flying scotsman

[trainlover658]

theres no way scotsman's gonna steam this year

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@trainlover658 This might sound a bit controversial, but one or two people have suggested that with the various delays and cost overruns on its latest overhaul, maybe it's time it was retired and just kept on static display. I fully appreciate what a significant piece of railway history it is, but preservation shouldn't be about just one engine - it's getting quite old now, and I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking that keeping it in mainline condition is becoming more trouble than it's worth.

[RailMon]

Superb video here Novachannel, especially the acoustics provided by Yorks beautifully curved canopies. With a good 5.1 chanel surround sound system, its nearly as good as being there.

5 twinklies from me.

[novachannel]

@RailMon Many thanks! Glad you liked it! Looking forward to filming her in HD this year...

[irwellsteam]

i found out a few days ago its costing the NRM more to overhaul 4472 than it cost the a1 trust to build tornado from scratch. i'll enjoy seeing her running in on the elr, all parts working correctly

[trainlover479]

Wow, for a british steam locomotive, thats not a bad whistle,  i think thats one of the best ones in the U.K., but here in the U.S.A., we have whistles that litterally "Blow" you away! LOL

[Lightwolf333]

Awesome

[galloway6204]

Aww why couldnt i find this clip when i was making that video?? >:L

[teddy292929]

I think I was on that train cause I went on holiday to scarborough and went on a ride to york from scarborogh so i think that might have been the train i was on.

[teddy292929]

I think I was on that train cause I went on holiday to scarborough and went on a ride to york from scarborogh so i think that might have been the train i was on.

[Rickenbackerglory]

Great video. Check out, probably, the best day of my life. Type in "Driving the flying scotsman"

[TheClass377]

it should be back 2011

[ipodwindow]

Great Video!

[ipodwindow]

Great Video!

[bash2357]

Cool

[h09anderson123]

With 4472 back on the main line, it would only leave Blue Peter (60532) to return to steam before we have all four "A" LNER pacifics up and running ! what a sight it would be

[6380BAN]

Assim como eu admiro locomotivas como Challenger e Big Boy (americanas), é inegável a admiração que locomotivas bretãs (inglesas) como as Mallard e Flying Scotsman proporciona para os verdadeiros amantes das ferrovias em todo o mundo. Uma pena o Brasil ser uma negação no quesito preservação ferroviária, quando se trata de suas mais importantes peças históricas... belo vídeo!!! :D

[MC2251]

Very good to see the good old Scotsman, was it going from York to Scarborough?

[novachannel]

@MC2251 Yes - the old Scarborough Spa Expresses!

[newyorkcentrury]

i this one with the land speed record in steam? or is engine number 999 of the new york central

[Intercity47GBRail]

Nice to see her back and well soon! Still rather have seen Mallard restored instead, but of course once Flying Scotsman is complete A1,A2,A3 and A4 will all be back running! Can't wait to see this beauty back on the Mainline!

[0luke]

@Intercity47GBRail Where is the mallard? Is it being left to sit in a museum?

[trainlover658]

@0luke too prescous to overhaul aparently

[TTTEFanNo22]

@0luke

Was at York NRM but was moved to Shildon this year. Tornado pulled it there. So yea, it is still being left in a museum, but who knows? Maybe one day.....

[RailMon]

@TTTEFanNo22 Slight correction here, It was Mallard that was pulled by Tornado to Shildon. 'Scotsman' has been in bits in various location over the last few years, during a complete rebuild. The boiler is currently at the ELR.

[TTTEFanNo22]

@RailMon

Thank you.

I did know that and my comment was a reply to another comment but I can't find it! Lol!

Just my luck.

I have been back and forth to York over the last few years to see what progress has been made so I am hoping that it does get finished for this summer. Still, better to do the job right than to only do half a job!

[legoofeggos]

she should be reciving more attention than that at the station, im talkin news, papers, LIVE TV etc. Shes just to beautiful to be unnoticed,'

Flying Scotsman A4 4-6-2

[alnboy90]

I drive she with train simulator

[GMasterH]

IF I see those smoke deflectors on it while it's in LNER livery again I'll rip them off myself!

[stepheng1483]

The most beautiful steam locomotive built in Britain.

[floodedcar123]

i didn't see ant wheel slip. Greg

[kiz97]

i've seen it at york but it wasn't tht year i have a picture and it doesn't have the red writing

[jackasskid2]

Too bad they can't restore it to the original double-tender setup!

[58BILLY58]

where is it,s water tender with 4472 on it ?

[Daniel5343]

4472's second tender is now coloured in BR Green for A4 60019 Bittern

[novachannel]

123

[60103Henry]

Great Video, 5 Stars! i will be great when shes back on the main line! Any idea what date this was?

[Dan8987]

GREAT LOCOMOTIVE

[armstrongener]

i wonder wheres its second tender

[hst43105]

pure beast, what was with the ambulance on the other platform? :/ 5* and faved

[484684984]

I wonder if they will do a double header with 4472 and 60163? Both are somewhat similar, and would look good together.

[54687y]

4472 always breaks down in it's first month of operation and spends the next 6 months in York Railway muesem being overhauled

[phumph]

I liked the incomprehensible but authentic announcement on the station PA system.

[tommyrockin]

very rough there!

leaking right hand cylinder

and its off beat!

[barnold97]

Give it a chance its been idle in the national railway museum for donkeys years

[RDG484]

I like the whistle at 1:03. Very nice sound although I think one of the chimes is squeaky. I wish more European steam had multi-chime whistles.

[MIDIacefro]

Alright, I'm looking at this and thinking: "What would Gordon say if he had to be modified to look like that?" I'm not saying the face lift is bad. It's cool, but I wonder what the uh........headplates(?) are used for?

[59n1tr0n72]

Eh? headplates? do u mean smoke deflectors? the definiton is in the name. granted, she does look good like that, too bad they're geting rid of the deflectors and double-chimney, but I think they will keep Gordon looking like he is until the end of Thomas & friends (circa- the END OF TIME!)

[No1Tubefan]

great steam engine!

[mecrazy5]

i love tfs so much!!!!!

[kamikazeyuki]

The double chimney and german-style smoke deflectors are nice, but not with LNER livery. It ought to be with BR logos and paint if it were to have them.

[jamiegoddard4]

NIce video. But was the train the scarbourgh spa express or the FLYING SCOTSMAN STORY.

I tell you what would be a fantastic railway gala. If you ran 60163 tornado, 60532 Blue Peter, 4472 and one of the A4's all running together.

[LMSStanier]

Or all of the A4s together. I'm sure that day will come now that Tornado has been built.

[SilsdenCougar]

The line up A1 60163, A2 60532, A3 60103, A4's 60007, 60009, 60019, V2 60800 Green Arrow would also be nice. Obvious choice of line for me would be North Yorkshire Moors, then to keep the LNER theme going, use K4, 61994 Great Marquess and/or K1 62005 on the Whitby's.

[mststv]

I was on that!

[DCMclarenFan]

LUCKY!!!!

[mststv]

Oh Yes !

[Gameking53]

How much is to ride this train?

[warboss132]

no-one knows yet because its not even been rebuilt

[theUP844]

it's being rebuilt right now in York.

[burnley5960]

@theUP844 Thank God time she was at Kings Cross backing down her train bound for Scotland lets hope

[QTXAdsy]

The best steam locomotive ever...

[BenAliGtor]

I recall her visit to the US in the 1960's, with a bell on her pilot and AAR coupler in lieu of screws & buffer plates.(An odd bit of jewelry for this fine lady, but she handled it gracefully.) I only wish we in the US could return the favor to British rail enthusiasts, maybe loan UP 844 (4-8-4) or another Amrican steamer for runs on the LNER or LMS routes.

[Yownanymous]

The LNER and LMS have long gone. Nowadays it's Virgin West Coast and National Express East Coast.

[askinner621]

I saw it when I was 3 years old when it came to Australia. Jewel of British engineering. Long live the Flying Scotsman.

[davidgwr]

Yes I agree, the smoke deflectors and double chimney look awful - but the LNER livery looks better than the BR one.

[WTU208]

I went on the footplate of this once for about 100 yards at Dinting Railway in Glossop, England. (no longer open)

It cost 3 pence, I remember it well.

[toastedsmith]

gave me goose bumps! its like something you cant explain! so much power yet it can move ever so slowly or pick up its kilt and "fog off" :)

[Inuyasha4lif]

Why they had to put smoke Deflectors on her she looks moer pretty without them

[warboss132]

some drivers view thing or something like that

[Skribzx]

shes a beauty int she

[Chaffinch4]

I travelling on the Scotsman (York to Scarborough) and it was a fantastic day. Bring some goggles along for looking out the window. It was funny to see the effect she has on people as she goes by, she's a superstar!

[IDOANYVIDS]

i know the nrm put them on but the one of 1930 did not have them

[Ohyewildthong]

yes the NRM put them on I think

[yammyrob]

superb

[IDOANYVIDS]

the normal flying scotsman doesnt have side plats on the front thats a imposter or a remake :(

[34045]

Yes it does. Apperantly it has to have them to be safe. These are the German styles which are smaller than the ordinary ones.

[SilsdenCougar]

What a stupid comment. There is only Flying Scotsman and thats the one in this video. The engine carried them in BR days. My opinion is if the engine has to have them, then it should be in BR livery.

[tbonez1965]

when the Flying Scotsman returns to service, he's gonna have that higher pitched "A3" whistle, no smoke defectors and single chimney.

[Daniel5343]

thats a shame, i prefered her with the smoke defectors and double chimney, still a nice engine though

[simierski]

Like it or not, the engine still has presence despite the historical inaccuracy of the livery.

Great video, and as for her whistle - I hear tell that it is a south african chime whistle that was fitted, just behind the smoke deflector.

For me, the apple green livery looks magnificent on her still, and yes, i'd like to see her in single chimney form, but the deflectors make a heck of a difference on the mainline, and I think many drivers would prefer to have them then not at all.

[Daniel5343]

i thought i recognised that whistle, south african chime, it sounds better at lower pressures though and i think she looks better with the smoke deflectors on.

[Daniel5343]

i think that whislte sounds nice acctualy.

[LNERMallard]

Wow! What a nice steam locomotive! I wish they would have fitted a better whistle on it though.

[Steam1989]

Would someone please explain to me why 4472 has had its Vacumm Brake's Removed and why it has smoke deflectors in the wrong livery? A fantastic locomotive with alot of History, I just wish she could be looked after a little bit better. Am I wrong?

[novachannel]

I'm not sure that authentic-ness (if that's not a word, it is now!) is now much of a concern with 4472. After all, what with the number of refits the old girls had, there's probably only a couple of bolts left that are actually original!! And not forget the two tender period...

[edj66]

@novachannel authenticity ;-)

[SPINNER673]

She's being well looked after by The National Railway Museum and i'm sure these problems have been rectified in her recent overhaul.

[TTTEFanNo22]

@Steam1989

It was Dr. Marchington that had the vacuum removed. He wanted to run a luxury train service using FS and, later on Bittern. He also had a contract with VSOE to do it. It ran with the deflectors for the aid of the crew and also because the double chimney also caused the soft exhaust. Technically it should of been in Brunswick Green and I'm hoping York will, be keeping to one of their rules, be authentic in looks and livery.

[ryskinner]

4472 has become a legend as well as a celebrity loco vey nice engine as I saw as a kid

[AndoPrime91]

Wow. her timing is really off here. all 4 chuffs should be equal in how they sound as well as interval, and they're not. Obviously not a big enough problem to keep her from putting on an excellent show, however. Really nice video you have here.

[novachannel]

Thanks very much - always nice to get comments, especially favourable ones!  There's many more videos being uploaded every couple of days...

[SPINNER673]

You're right. The timing is seriously out, but nothing can keep 4472 down.

[Flathog]

She is a 3 cylinder engine, her timing is perfect its just there is an extra cylinder beat.

[Nickboy90]

@AndoPrime91 she's a 3-cylinder locomotive... 6 chuffs per revolution of the wheels... Nice try, though. :)

[TTTEFanNo22]

@AndoPrime91

This was getting close to the time when she failed just before Railfest. It was the only Railfest event I could attend because of work commitments. It was good to see her but shame she was not in steam. From that moment on she has been in the works since then.

[SteamMad]

@AndoPrime91 shes a 3 cylinder loco so she has 6 chuffs to the turn of the wheel insted of a 2 cylinder locos 4

[NEWBIGGINBOX]

@AndoPrime91 Sorry, 3cyl. 6 chuffs.

[RailMon]

@AndoPrime91 The variation of the exhaust beat is not a result of mis-timing, but the difference in the lengths of the exhaust paths from the cylinders. At the period this vid was taken, Scotman had a crack in one of the cylinders which wouldn't help its 'Voice' pattern.

[amtrak101]

@AndoPrime91 4472 is a 3 cylinder

[edj66]

@AndoPrime91 4 chuffs? She's only got the 3 cylinders though. Unless I am missing something

[D335Media]

@AndoPrime91 She's a 3 cylinder loco which means 6 chuffs to a turn.

[Wolfmamma]

Nice clip, thanks..

[theamateurbasher]

Oh Yes. 4472: Absolute Legend. Good video!