I was skeptical of the cencept myself. You would think that the amount of heat lost in the length of the tail-pipes would translate to a big loss in applicable power gains.
Although I still think that the system is ultimately going to be less efficient than a front mounted turbo, I cant argue with some of the results that Ive seen.
your system adds approximatly how many hp in average? 100/ 150? do u have different size turbos? does it work for any car? what if a person lives far from utah?
@gsxrful It completely depends on the car. On an 05 Mustang GT it's about 200HP at the rear wheels. If you're wanting specific info for your car, you can check out the manufacturers website at ststurbo.com
@usmusclemods one more question if you car already has a factory turbo like let's say an rs6 audi would you be able to add the kit or its not worth it?i only see american cars on your web site how about foreign cars?
@gsxrful There are kits for specific cars and trucks. I don't know for sure if they have it for the audi's. It wouldn't surprise me if they did. If the car already has a factory turbo though, you would not just add one of these to the back. If you were to install one of these, it would be replacing the factory one (which you would have to remove)
I respect the sales manager opinion and like how he explained his (turbo educated induction into new innovation) it in the latter part of the vid cuz i was pretty much like how the hell is that gonna be better than a standard header system.. but after checkin out some other builds sts systems sure are impressive. keep up the good work..
Being a turbo guy, I question all that excessive plumbing from rear to front as being less than ideal, but hey, if it works it works and if it's fast, I like it!
I do like the "basically" stock look of the rear pipes. From the angle at the end of the video, it appears that the outer two pipes are the dump tubes coming off the wastegates. Nice touch!
I have met Bill Devine many times at Downs Ford in NJ and he is a cool guy. Has been 7s in the 1/4 so he knows fast cars. That car is sick for just a TT setup on pump gas. Most little imports are running race gas and big turbos spinning 20+ psi. This turbo kit is barely being used.
Your talking about 580hp like it's a joke. That 580hp will smoke pretty much smoke anything on te road unless you happen to come up to like a Ferrari Enzo or Saleen S7 or something of that nature. And it's totally streetable. BTW this is @ 7 PSI that's 1/2 Bar if they bump it up to 1 Bar (14.7 PSI) that would just be insane.
@brodierdr666 most STS systems are built with mild hp goals...the tune is what makes STS systems so efficient. this car with some suspension mods and slicks would run very impressive E/Ts i wouldn't doubt low-mid 11s...build the block and throw some valve springs and crank the boost and you can make your expected 800 whp. I have ridden in STS Z06's before and they are phenomenal, if you rode in one im sure you would not all this pathetic
he's talking about 580hp at the rear wheels. At the crank, its about 650hp+. That's more than a stock '09 ZR1 at the crank and especially at the wheels....on 7psi only....if the ZR1 does 11.4secs in 1/4 mile, then ur looking at a mid 10 sec vette with a good driver....again, only 7lbs of boost.....if u call that pathetic, then u must be either crazy or u have a 1000+hp car urself
The motor still loses power spinning up a turbo he is wrong. You can't compress air without energy coming from somewhere. Simple physics.. the turbo may be more efficient as it isn't running all the time though.
@m1leswilliams umm if u listen better then ud know that the motor dosent spin the turbo like it does a supercharger turbos spin from the burnt gases that R leaving the motor. Thats y turbos dont use HP to turn like superchargers do.
The turbo is taking the WASTED exhaust gases to run the system. So it's considered "free" energy. The motor isn't spinning the turbo, the exhaust is.
You should form your comments as questions when you don't understand how the system works so those that don't understand either won't get confused by a statement that should be formed as a question.
I think what williams is trying to say is that the turbo does add back pressure to the exhaust system, which makes it a little bit hard for all exhaust to leave. Therefore, not as much air and fuel can enter the next compression cycle. If you had the same car, one with a turbo and one with out, and never boosted the one with a turbo it would get slightly less horsepower and fuel mileage than the naturally aspirated one.
They run cooler at the back, they have more HP per pound of boost. They don't heat up everything under the hood. Watch our interviews with the STS Turbo owner and you'll learn a lot about their remote mounted turbo setup. Just check out our youtube homepage.
but turbo need more fuel preasure to make up with the extra air the turbo is compressing into the engine so it will also be more fuel consuming than normal
how much for twin turbo? O_o
turtlewax3585 2 days ago
HA! Run over dead body at 1:46 mid-conversation lolz
STS twins + lightweight LSX = yummy!
PorkchopLSX 3 months ago
If price at the pump was an issue for customers at the time of this recording....what do they think now, lol.
TinnInches 9 months ago
So what is the difference rear mounted vs engine mounted? and how much would it cost me for the kit and labor on a kit on a 2006 z06?
2fastg35 9 months ago
I was skeptical of the cencept myself. You would think that the amount of heat lost in the length of the tail-pipes would translate to a big loss in applicable power gains.
Although I still think that the system is ultimately going to be less efficient than a front mounted turbo, I cant argue with some of the results that Ive seen.
originaldriver 10 months ago
Very informative...thanks!
isuav8r234 10 months ago
I'm thinkin about buying this for my 2010 lancer GTS. its a 2.4lt MT I4 engine. yay/nay?
pb4life2 1 year ago
@pb4life2 STS doesn't make turbo systems for your car. They're into beefing up V6's and V8's.
Reaper87xx 11 months ago
What size turbos? they look fairly small....
xcelerator67 1 year ago
go to google and type in sts twin turbo review. read the first result - a forum thread at smokin vettes dot com. interesting read.
STRAYTUPPIMP 1 year ago
I have always wondered, what is the drone like with this car at highway speeds...compared to a Corsa exhaust?
BayouCityMan 1 year ago
is there a warrantee on the system? if so how long?
gsxrful 1 year ago
This guy is pretty wise. Major respect for him..great knowledge.
This is a must for all Covettes!!!!
TacticalHelp 1 year ago
your system adds approximatly how many hp in average? 100/ 150? do u have different size turbos? does it work for any car? what if a person lives far from utah?
gsxrful 1 year ago
@gsxrful It completely depends on the car. On an 05 Mustang GT it's about 200HP at the rear wheels. If you're wanting specific info for your car, you can check out the manufacturers website at ststurbo.com
usmusclemods 1 year ago
@usmusclemods one more question if you car already has a factory turbo like let's say an rs6 audi would you be able to add the kit or its not worth it?i only see american cars on your web site how about foreign cars?
gsxrful 1 year ago
@gsxrful There are kits for specific cars and trucks. I don't know for sure if they have it for the audi's. It wouldn't surprise me if they did. If the car already has a factory turbo though, you would not just add one of these to the back. If you were to install one of these, it would be replacing the factory one (which you would have to remove)
usmusclemods 1 year ago
WHAT WOULD THIS SET UP Cost me for my '99 c5?
acres90 1 year ago
I respect the sales manager opinion and like how he explained his (turbo educated induction into new innovation) it in the latter part of the vid cuz i was pretty much like how the hell is that gonna be better than a standard header system.. but after checkin out some other builds sts systems sure are impressive. keep up the good work..
trinicaleb 1 year ago
ur talking fuel mileage how about does it have a intercooler
cdawg1113 1 year ago
@cdawg1113 yes it does.
usmusclemods 1 year ago
what about snow?
arual9100 1 year ago
Being a turbo guy, I question all that excessive plumbing from rear to front as being less than ideal, but hey, if it works it works and if it's fast, I like it!
I do like the "basically" stock look of the rear pipes. From the angle at the end of the video, it appears that the outer two pipes are the dump tubes coming off the wastegates. Nice touch!
TheMick26 1 year ago
NO! NEVER let a woman drive this car!
1flynlow 1 year ago 4
these turbos are mounted under the rear bumper right ? how do they hold up 2 the rain, salt, and whatever else is on the asphalt
555222444999 1 year ago
@555222444999 They do just fine. You can get some little metal shields to keep them out of all the elements.
usmusclemods 1 year ago
I have met Bill Devine many times at Downs Ford in NJ and he is a cool guy. Has been 7s in the 1/4 so he knows fast cars. That car is sick for just a TT setup on pump gas. Most little imports are running race gas and big turbos spinning 20+ psi. This turbo kit is barely being used.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
Your talking about 580hp like it's a joke. That 580hp will smoke pretty much smoke anything on te road unless you happen to come up to like a Ferrari Enzo or Saleen S7 or something of that nature. And it's totally streetable. BTW this is @ 7 PSI that's 1/2 Bar if they bump it up to 1 Bar (14.7 PSI) that would just be insane.
clementeunknown 2 years ago
true car guy. good job
papoose1223 2 years ago
580 with a twin setup? I'm sorry that's pathetic.
brodierdr666 2 years ago
@brodierdr666 most STS systems are built with mild hp goals...the tune is what makes STS systems so efficient. this car with some suspension mods and slicks would run very impressive E/Ts i wouldn't doubt low-mid 11s...build the block and throw some valve springs and crank the boost and you can make your expected 800 whp. I have ridden in STS Z06's before and they are phenomenal, if you rode in one im sure you would not all this pathetic
c8muells 2 years ago
Yeah but he's only running 7 lbs of boost bro; on a stock engine at that. So keep that in mind......
renegado454 2 years ago
he's talking about 580hp at the rear wheels. At the crank, its about 650hp+. That's more than a stock '09 ZR1 at the crank and especially at the wheels....on 7psi only....if the ZR1 does 11.4secs in 1/4 mile, then ur looking at a mid 10 sec vette with a good driver....again, only 7lbs of boost.....if u call that pathetic, then u must be either crazy or u have a 1000+hp car urself
mtooshort20 2 years ago
The motor still loses power spinning up a turbo he is wrong. You can't compress air without energy coming from somewhere. Simple physics.. the turbo may be more efficient as it isn't running all the time though.
m1leswilliams 2 years ago
@m1leswilliams umm if u listen better then ud know that the motor dosent spin the turbo like it does a supercharger turbos spin from the burnt gases that R leaving the motor. Thats y turbos dont use HP to turn like superchargers do.
foxbody50302 2 years ago
The turbo is taking the WASTED exhaust gases to run the system. So it's considered "free" energy. The motor isn't spinning the turbo, the exhaust is.
You should form your comments as questions when you don't understand how the system works so those that don't understand either won't get confused by a statement that should be formed as a question.
jeffzahnd 2 years ago
I think what williams is trying to say is that the turbo does add back pressure to the exhaust system, which makes it a little bit hard for all exhaust to leave. Therefore, not as much air and fuel can enter the next compression cycle. If you had the same car, one with a turbo and one with out, and never boosted the one with a turbo it would get slightly less horsepower and fuel mileage than the naturally aspirated one.
FYI1337 2 years ago
@m1leswilliams agreed my evo x get 16 mpg a lancer with the samemotor na gets 28 hmmmm interesting
cdawg1113 1 year ago
:) saving up for one for my 97 gt as we speak. MAAANNN STS FTW!!
steeda347 2 years ago
I wonder about the effective available air as speeds vary. Do you have to make a splash guard for it.?
paikmendez 2 years ago
I can personally vouch for Bill...he knows his turbo stuff!
Fedge1369 2 years ago
sweet my 02 trans am i have sts turbo system. and it auto just plain sick
silverbird2127 2 years ago
AWESOME!
VetteAholicZ06 2 years ago
my exact dream car
ZAKK2332 2 years ago
Awesome! This is in Utah county isn't it? I'm just north. I should bring my 07 gt stang in for a TT setup. Yum!
HomesliceDrummer 2 years ago
yeah, that's where sts is based out of.
usmusclemods 2 years ago
so what is he saying will never work? the turbos by the back of the car?
fre2fly 2 years ago
every time they're showing those cars, with those Turbo's off. The guy driving it feathers the gas before he dumps the clutch... every time...
F0ckUtoob 2 years ago
You wanna convince me lol, give me a hell of a discount on a system. And I'll consider mounting it on my LS2 powered RX7.
SagaraSouske 2 years ago
fail for the LS2 in a rotary car.
disgusting. but awesome.
summerbeforelast 2 years ago
light car with a hell of an engine, but yeah, he should have built the rotary :[
MagicalMrSkylar 2 years ago
ls2 ftw!!!! and I'm an import guy..... rotaries are headaches, let alone built ones...
TryNaLivePro 2 years ago
I'm sure you can make those things make much more power with a built motor.
I really like the concept that anyone can drive it dispite its TT. Normally it would be an out of control monster!.
vfIskullangel 3 years ago
turbos are the best choice in my opinion.whether it be rear mounted or engine mounted.
wellshii 3 years ago 9
what are the ups and downs of having Turbo at the back? HP wise, usage wise, life etc...
eapaaa 3 years ago
They run cooler at the back, they have more HP per pound of boost. They don't heat up everything under the hood. Watch our interviews with the STS Turbo owner and you'll learn a lot about their remote mounted turbo setup. Just check out our youtube homepage.
usmusclemods 3 years ago
but turbo need more fuel preasure to make up with the extra air the turbo is compressing into the engine so it will also be more fuel consuming than normal
maqueavelico1 3 years ago
Yeah, just when the turbos are at full boost.
usmusclemods 3 years ago
when u dont have the pedal to the floor
and ur crusing u easily get 5mpg or more better =)
adiosk8erxxx 3 years ago
Ta GUEULE et ROULE BORDEL!
dvserb 3 years ago