God Makes No Mistakes - I REFUSE TO BE REPRESSED (A GAY MORMON)

[TruAgape123]

@985Riverfox (cont) Perhaps you should pay more attention to the culture and the context this was written within because as Lev 18:3 clearly states God was referring to the practices of Egypt and Cannan. Study that and you'll see exactly what God was addressing instead of misusing scripture to make life a living hell for gay people today.

[mamabek81]

I think you're so brave and I think you've got it right. I'm sad for those who use your process of self-actualization as a time to express hatred, but in the end their reaction says more about them than it does about you. I see a beautiful person in you and, as a fellow active Mormon, I support you 100% and would love having you in my ward. :)

[Lorennmemphis]

I believe that you were born gay being that we are all born into sin but that doesnt mean you have the right to speak for god- that is the job of the bible - and clearly sex outside of marriage is a sin- and it clearly says that not all men can marry - Matthew 19 8-12 - Christ says not all can marry - there are 3 types of eunuchs that cannot marry - you are just one type of eunuch - I believe you have the right to choose how to live, but not the right to speak for the bible on your own opinions

[Lorennmemphis]

You stated that god wants you to have a man and children, so did he give you a magic uterus too? what the hell are you thinking - the bodies of two men don't even serve a biological purpose - focus on the word of god - everything in creation serves a purpose but 2 men, what purpose does that serve except for your own satisfaction - You see yourself as a sexuality, you keep saying I am gay - I'm gay - if thats all you are then so be it - yes god loves you but not your sin - we r all born into sin

[Lorennmemphis]

Wow. you really went way out there , and nothing you said was even remotely biblical, I am not against you , but I do stick to my previous comment ,

[Lorennmemphis]

well... sin entered the world and perverted everything - sexuality, death, disease, ect... gay doesn't even serve a biological purpose, everything in God's creation serves a purpose and that should tell you tell you something - I am gay too but I know better - I am celibate for Christ - in the same way kids are born with cancer - kids are born gay - sine entered the world and perverted everything - thats why we have diseases, death and perversion - Your understanding is not God's understanding-

[SuperJuliusC]

@Lorennmemphis So god doesn`t make mistakes?! Well here is a question:

God made the angels - And Lucifer and a bunch of other angels became jealous of mankind?!

Jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins - Sends you right to hell without a stop in purgatory!

So god created potentially jealous angels - So they weren`t perfect and so god can`t be perfect!

[SuperJuliusC]

@Lorennmemphis And even he intended to create potentially jealous angels - Wouldn`t that mean that god created evil and not Lucifer?!

[SuperJuliusC]

@Lorennmemphis If you would know anything about the origins of the bible - which by the way was written in the 3rd century and not shortly after Jesus death - you would know why it is opposed to homosexuality.

The Romans or the Greeks didn`t have anything against homosexuality which was against jewish traditions - And so it was forbidden in the bible and not by god!

[SuperJuliusC]

@Lorennmemphis Another example: Why is the bible so "pro-roman"?!

I mean the romans were the scourge of Israel and murdered a lot of citizens there - The answer is very very simple:

If you have a "new religion" and you want it to conquer the world you better shouldn`t call the citizens of the biggest world power animals - That`s why!

[985Riverfox]

You are  being misled by Satan! Leviticus 18:22 God says to His priests: "Do not lie with men as you lie with women. It is an abomination." God did not make you gay! The Devil did. And, you need deliverence. I will pray for you.

[RCSVirginia]

There seem to be quite a few gay Mormons. As there are already several Mormon churches: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Community of Christ/Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and various fundamentalist Mormon churches with all their multiple wives; why not just do what churches do when they reach an irreconcilable impasse and break off and form your own church? Gay Mormons could leave and take their tithes with them!

[ImLDSRU2]

I think that there are some things in your goals that will conflict with Church standards. I don't see any way to resolve these problems. :-(.

Still ... I appreciate your work to be positive and to want to build rather than tear down.

[tiffyduck]

I really appreciate hearing from a gay mormon who doesn't hate the church. I think that happens too often, and it makes me really sad. :)

Do what's right for YOU.

[MrMoviesFTW]

U gay

[Bananianiown]

I have prayed and have received the same revelation from our Heavenly Father. I'm glad to see that I am not the only gay Mormon who is in such a position.

[shmuli9]

Heavenly Father loves us all...

[AliaSparrow]

@aGayMormon Oh, please don't generalize the Baptists as homophobic. The Westburo nutjobs aren't our brothers and sisters, they're false-Christians. Their are plenty of loving Baptist who would accept their children, their are plenty of mean Baptists who forget what Love is.

Bless you, you are strong and Lord loves you for who you are.

[albordeestoy]

so no electrodes on your genitals while you watch gay porn? omg. i"m sorry if i offend, i just laugh at life and dont take things so personally or seriouly. but good for you. take a stand!

[jonasgirl719]

I am a Christian and I belive that God made man and women to be together and no other way. But I do belive that god doesn't look at gays or bisexuals any diffrent from straights if they are a christan and have asked for forgiveness from god. ( I don't want to offend you in anyway) but I don't agree you. (with lots of love) God bless

[ImAdhis]

I agree. God wants ALL of his children to have joy.

I do also believe that you, my brother, might be looking at this time on earth as the ONLY time we will have a chance for happiness.

Hold to the Rod for the span of your long life. Eternity is much longer than the blink of an eye experience we have on this planet; Eternity is when we each will come into the fullness of reward, happiness, eternal partnerships, and joy that we could never comprehend as possible in our mortal minds and bodies.

[jdelgado360]

GOD HATES GAYS!! 

:p

[batesisbeast]

@jdelgado360 god is loving not hating.

[Jeffanator9001]

Well this video has no use, to me I am an atheist :P. 

[SuWoopClutch]

i love pussy <3

[MrJohninphx]

Atta boy ! Now you can move forward and be happy, although I'd still get out of the LDS church soon to avoid further bad feelings regarding your role in the church. I got out right after my mission was done and it was the best thing I have ever done for myself. Yes, I too am gay my friend. Friends and family will just have to learn to accept that you have moved on in your life and hopefully in time will embrace you for who you are, a wonderful human being !

[aGayMormon]

@supersuperrich sorry, thats just my demeanor I guess... but i am very happy :)

[supersuperrich]

@aGayMormon Thanks for writing me. I'm sorry 4 criticizing some Mormon beliefs, it just upset me 2 have 2 see you having felt so conflicted because of the precepts of religion, because life is so fragile and brief, & it's a waste of life 2 spend years reconciling yourself 2 any church that will never fully accept you (due to scripture interpretation or church edicts). I look at u and see the thousands who are similarly struggling. Beautiful souls spend so much time unaware of their beauty.

[supersuperrich]

@aGayMormon Remember that little boy across the table from u who liked u, and cried to want to get over to you ? He was a good symbol of God. A child doesn't think of or care, that you're gay. No scripture comes to his mind or church privileges to withhold from you/separate you from him. God is all around us, in the presence of such small children. (They get a little older, and then take on the ugly personalities and prejudices of their parents). Like that loving child, God wants to be with YOU.

[ttcodey]

I appreciate your video. I am gay and i attend a baptist church.

[aGayMormon]

@ttcodey keep strong, i hear baptists are even worst than mormons when it comes to homosexuality... have you heard of that crazy Westboro Baptist Church and all of there foolish shenanigans???

[jdelgado360]

@ttcodey GAY!!

[puzzlite]

umm..i thought u were gay? what's this talk of a woman? oh well...to each his own

[aGayMormon]

@puzzlite huh? there was no talk of a woman??? i am gay

[grunnyeatsdavid]

accept it... move on.... good message for younger gay youth to know that they don't have to hold everything in and try to hide it by themselves just let it out and you'll live a MUCH MUCH happier life... the burden it takes off of you is undescribable :)

[GayMormonGuy]

Thanks for your video. I can relate a lot to your experiences. Accepting myself and realizing that I am deserving of love and allowing myself to experience happiness has opened my eyes more than anything. More than my mission, more than my experience at BYU, more than years and years in the church. Its helped me feel closer to God and to feel real love for people.

[aGayMormon]

@GayMormonGuy Ya, I don't see how we would be any less deserving of it than God's other(straight) children... Thanks for your videos too, someone had told me about you and to watch yours and I have really enjoyed doing so... keep it up!

[sirdidymus018]

You know, you're everything that the church teaches us we should be, to love ourselves as well as loves others and any challenges or obstacles we face are just God's way of helping us to grow and learn and become better people and maybe even help others become better people through what we've learned.

[aGayMormon]

@sirdidymus018 Thank you... I do believe Compassion is God's #1 rule... that is all that Jesus showed while he was here on earth... Love, Acceptance, and Tolerance... He has to be our prime example. If being gay was such a sin, you would think Jesus would have mentioned it at least once, right?

[flashyxxx]

i was like you in some ways, i had a background in religion and am gay. as a kid i found this very hard to deal with, it took me many years to discover what you are saying in this video. god doesnt hate gays, why would he hate us, we were born that way, we have been brought up with good moral values and love, we are beautiful people! thank you for posting this video, i hope it teaches some others who dont quite approve.

i reposted this on my facebook, hope you dont mind

[flashyxxx]

i was like you in some ways, i had a background in religion and am gay. as a kid i found this very hard to deal with, it took me many years to discover what you are saying in this video. god doesnt hate gays, why would he hate us, we were born that way, we have been brought up with good moral values and love, we are beautiful people! thank you for posting this video, i hope it teaches some others who dont quite approve.

[puzzlite]

maybe you should get out of this Mormon religion and seek some other christian church that embraces all parts of who you are (and yes they do exist)... i can never quite understand why religious people continue to be conflicted about their sexuality when the reason why they are conflicted is plainly obvious.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite Because the religion is true.

[puzzlite]

@Starrlabb How can it be true if you are a living contradiction to that fact? The kid is a gay Mormon. Mormons think gay people are evil. As such, no matter what my friend aGayMormon chooses to define his Mormon beliefs as, he will be perceived by others in the Mormon Church to be evil. So tell me, what part of the Mormon church doctrine is true for him? Just get yourself out of the Mormon church and find Jesus thru a church that accepts that part of you u deem important (ie your sexuality)

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite First off, I'm mormon too so i think I understand this a little bit better than you do..not being mean, that's just the way it is. As much as it can hurt sometimes to be gay and mormon, the majority of mormons don't think that gay people are "evil". Mormons are very loving and accepting people. Even though there are some mormons who are rude and homophobic, there are plenty who are the opposite.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite Take it from someone who goes to church every sunday..I love every single person I go to church with, they're some of the most amazing people I know. I always feel completely loved and accepted at church. Just because the church teaches it's a sin to be gay doesn't mean it's not true. God created this world and he made certain rules for it, I don't know why he made it this way, but he did.

[puzzlite]

@Starrlabb and oh yea, if the church teaches that it is a sin to be gay, then you would support my position that it is unhealthy for this young man to continue to exist inside of this church. Why doesn't he find another church that teaches that it is NOT a sin to be gay, that it is in fact a blessing? If he did, believe me, he would make fewer "I refuse to be repressed" videos and I would pity him less. Not trying to be offensive but I can offer no more than pity for him.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite I am in the same position as he is right now..I am struggling with being gay and mormon and trying to find a way to accept things and be happy. It's just the way it is..I believe the mormon church is true and I'm gay..both those things are true facts to me..like I said I can't deny either..so I have no choice but to deal with it and find a way to be happy and survive. There is a lot of pain that comes with it but I have no choice because it's my reality.

[puzzlite]

@Starrlabb I mean, its your choice to suffer. I on the other hand think life is too short to attach myself to misery. I like to be happy. I own my sexuality and I have reconciled it with my spirituality. No one and no organization can condemn me and think I will stand with it especially if I have choices.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite you sound like my bishop when you say it's my choice..lol I'm so tired of hearing that. I guess you have to be gay and mormon to understand, but it is NOT as simple as saying i have a choice. How can you choose when either way it feels like you're going to be miserable? If you choose your religion, you'll be miserable because you can't be who you are, and if you choose to leave your religion, you'll be miserable because you left. Just try to understand how horrible that feels.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite I like to think of it this way..when you're a kid your parents have the right to tell you to do chores around the house, give you a curfew, ect..they make the rules, because they created you, they're your parents. If your parents told you to clean your room but you didn't want to, that doesn't mean it's not a true fact that your room needs to be cleaned. Everything happens for a reason, so there must have been a good reason for God to make the rules the way he did.

[puzzlite]

@Starrlabb I don't know what your perspective is on this. are you gay and mormon or are you a straight member of the mormon church? That might be besides the point. My thing is, and this is addressed to the guy in the video, why be part of something that condemns you? If God is so wise, why is it explicitly written in his book AKA his "word," that it is indeed a sin to be gay? aGayMormon knows as well as I do that we did not choose to be gay. we were born gay.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite I'm gay and mormon.

[puzzlite]

There is nothing special about the Mormon church in my opinion. There are many churches with nice and amazing people. However, it's doctrine of homophobia is wrong and while there may be other virtues of this particular church, they are irrelevant to me. I would rather be a part of something that affirms my right to love who I choose and support my right to marry them than continue to fight a losing battle with the Mormon church or any other organization that demonizes me.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite why would you rather be a part of something that isn't true though? that doesn't make any sense. I can't live a lie..I have to always be honest with myself..and in doing that I have to accept that I'm gay and that the mormon church is true. I can't deny it because I know it's true. So there isn't the option to go to a different church because why would you leave a church that you know is true and go to one that doesn't have all the truth?

[puzzlite]

@Starrlabb I'm so tired of hearing about this whole "the church is true." What exactly is true? That Jesus is the son of God? That heaven is for heterosexuals and others like them and hell for homosexuals and all other evil people? If the religion can't even get sexuality right, then it aint true for aGayMormon cuz if it was, he wouldn't be repressed

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite The book of mormon and all of its teachings are true. Listen I understand where you're coming from ok? I understand better than you do because I have to deal with this every second of every day..feelings like I'll never be accepted for who I am..and it doesn't matter what decisions I make, I'm just doomed to never be happy. I'm convinced that being gay and mormon is the hardest thing a human could have to go through. It is HELL. I know it sucks..trust me. I wish it was different.

[Starrlabb]

@puzzlite I want more than ANYTHING to be able to marry the woman i'm in love with, and for every gay person to marry the person they want to marry. NOTHING would make me happier. But that fact doesn't change whether or not the mormon church is true. I just have to believe that God will work everything out in the end. I KNOW god will work things out somehow.

[puzzlite]

But he looks young so I suppose he has the time to do this, but personally, I was 20 before I realized that the sole reason why I was depressed all the time was because my church believed that I was evil. It was the same reason my family thought I was evil also. Therefore I chose to leave that church and I've been happier since.

[BADprid3]

@puzzlite depends on the person you talk to, not the religion.

[chrismasbride]

I hope and pray for you that you continue to be honest with God, and that you are truthful with yourself and that being Gay is not something that God does not understand. I have been so oppressed by organized religion, that I no longer have a home church and it was the Church that told me I was a bad person and going to Hell for being Gay, I love God and also hope that you will not let the Church if they do kick you out, to remain on your own personal journey with God and your Heavenly Father.

[Starrlabb]

(continued) I just don't get it. Sometimes I think i'll just lie to him and tell him I wouldn't go back with my ex fiance, but I would be lying and i'm not gonna hide who I am. If I ever get accepted to go to the temple it's gonna be for who I am, not who I say I am.

[Starrlabb]

(continued) I feel like I'm worthy to do baptisms for the dead. There are worse people who I'm sure have lied about things that are able to go to the temple..probably rapists and murderers, etc. But someone like me who is just in love with another human being, and wants NOTHING more than to be a member of the church and serve God and go to the temple, isn't allowed to.

[Starrlabb]

Im like you except it would break my heart to be excommunicated from the church and I really wanna go to the temple. I've been trying to get a recommend from my bishop to do baptisms for the dead for about four months now, but he wont let me because I refuse to tell him that if my ex fiance wanted me back, I wouldnt go back with her. It frustrates me so much, because I'm a good person..

[jdcinsf]

i worship every day with a church that is open to gay people and other free souls

[knockonwoods]

Thanks for your videos, they help give me comfort, especially from someone like you who is in my shoes

[GyThanksGd]

You are an awesome individual.

[mascottie]

You have to remember The Bible was written by men many ages ago. It is based on their beliefs at the time, including the one that if a child is bad, it should be stoned to death. God didn't tell them laws. It was what they felt God wanted. Times have changed and we've learned a lot since. Just keep your own relationship with God!

[BrizyComics]

You show a great deal of courage and character. Stay strong and continue to be who you are, my friend.

[babygirl2cool]

im not very churcy, but i agree. God excludes none of his children. Its ridiculous to think that just because of ones sexual orientation God wouldnt love you as much as any other. Stay true to yourself. You have all the rights of any other. And you are a wonderful unique creation. i love you. ;D <33 and so does God.

[tattooedboy04]

Hmmm....you seem so distressed. Churches have done so much damage to people; they are from Man and have so much passive hate. I agree with you; God is far different than any church would say. Be true to you and your relation to God alone. Best to you...I extend an internet hug full of love.

[SaskBlade]

aww Bless your heart... you sound like a wonderful human being... God is Great and God loves  all his children...

[mikeyoungish]

Hey I want to share with you, Im also seriously pissed off being a mormon, I'm fed up being slowed up by the LDS church, I'm thinking of joining another christian church in my area who accept gay men to a certain amount, we can hold the priesthood if not practising but also if in a man relationship. Also I will not stop drinking coffee to satisfy my brothers at church. They are holding off my patriarchal blessing which is mumbo jumbo nonsense in my opinion, but I need to get rid completely.

[908381stud]

Welcome... the outside is a brighter place :)

[watertower12]

I am so happy for you!! And I am so proud of you!! There are many beautiful Christian denominations that are loving and accepting of everyone, I hope you find one that fits you. I had a similar experience where God gave me a miracle in answer to my question. He made you that way, and he loves you as you are. Stay strong. If you ever want to hear more of my story, message me.

[mindrunfree]

Way to go brother.  You are discovering some profound and deep revelations. Your truths are beautiful.

[Mamberuon]

It is good to see you again my friend. Keep reaching out to god, for he is there to welcome you and to love you just as you are. God is the one that when you reach out your hand to him, he touches your heart, with his love and blessings. You are gay, because god created you that way. Much peace and love my friend

Mike

[TheKindKitten]

" I believe in my heart that that's what he wants for me" Ahhh...now I think you are finally starting to understand! :). I completely agree with the other bit...you should not let anyone oppress you. For them to do that means they cannot accept you as a person, as who you really are.You just need to find more people now that DO accept you as you are...they should be the only ones you should be concerned with.

I'll be around on Youtube to talk to you if you want to talk. x

-Sam

sharing the ♥ :)

[silentfades]

you are not alone in your stuggle

hope your parents are supportive and that you have others there for you

stay strong

[LGBTguide]

There is a new channel that could be of your interest under username GayMormonGuy ...

[depfox]

I am glad you are back....Looking healthy...I hope you keep reaching out to God and that he can help you find on a place where you are content.