BBC - Dead in the Water - The Attack on the USS Liberty 7of7

[shaygahweh]

Great documentary by the BBC.

[joeys444]

Is it events like these that the real objectives were only are known only at high levels that give allowances to equal atrocities presently?,,,uh,,yea?,,power is an evil bitch didn,t she?

[Licmycat]

UN was nothing but a little shit then weren't they???? Is our nation working as a mercenary army for SATAN now? We're ok if our terrorist acts are done by lying ZIONISTS who are satan's workers? 'Cause they DAM sure ain't GOD-Worshiping JEWS!!! Take my mother and let her lie with those liars! She is the same!!!

[gemriderz]

Gee, bigcree.....AND WHO GOT ISRAEL TO DO THIS? WHO'S PLAN WAS IT?

To the men of the USS Liberty; Don't feel badly. Your bravery showed, and remember; Bush and Cheney killed 3,000 on 9/11, and how many since, including innocent civilians of the countries we've illegally invaded?

We are a sad, sad nation. Our leaders murder, and most simply believe some ridiculous story, and refuse to question.

In 40 years, there will be a BBC Special on the False Flag of 9/11 - and 5,950 will watch it.

Sad.

[beppu]

@gemriderz Teach the children. We can prevent that terrible fate by giving the children a head start. Then, by the time they are adults, they will be less affected by the lies the adults of today are susceptible to.

Teach the children REAL HISTORY. Don't leave education to the schools. Take responsibility for the future.

[MrShnooksie]

@beppu

-Teach your children's that war exist since the creation of man kind

-Teach them that 50% of all marriages end up in divorce & some bitterly & venomously

-Teach them that people do no always coalesce all too nicely

-An unchangeable universal DNA code

-Sad but so true. Realpolitik to their rescue

-Euphoria keeps biting the Ostrich in the ass for hiding its head in the sand

[Straylight100]

If only someone would sink the pirate state of israel.

[jfiles000000]

Death to Israel THE U.S should had blown that country up with nukes those jew assholes.

[martinishot]

Carefully read the document handed to John Kennedy years before proposing this and other things to justify an attack on Cuba. Google ""Operation Northwoods"" and read the document,not someones spin on it. Google "Gulf of Tonkin false flag" .Going to war by fraud is normal procedure.

[tua25544]

@martinishot 1) apparently you werent paying attention. Cyanide was proposed under Johnsons 2)Northwoods was never used and the guy who created it was disowned by the whitehouse shortly after for the bay of pigs. Northwood is the only concrete example conspiracists know of. If we really were doing things like that, you think they would of released it? 3) Googeling "gulf of tokin false flag" would be reading someone elses spin (notably conspiracy theorists.) How about just google "gulf od tokin"

[martinishot]

@tua25544 1)When did I mention cyanide? 2) Northwoods was never used only because Kennedy rejected it If the guy who created it was disowned by the whitehouse shortly after for the bay of pigs,April 17, 1961, he would not be there to sign the Northwoods document March 13 1962,would he? BTW, "HE' was chairman of the joints chiefs of staff. Documents getting released by someone screwing up happens sometimes,this is not the only case 3) What spin? it's a fact

[tua25544]

@martinishot 1) you are obviously tying cyanide with northwoods. Northwoods was presented, along with a bunch of other proposals to kennedy. Johnson was president when cyanide was formed and proposed. Vice presidents are rarely privy to anything top secret (see Truman and Manhattan project). Considering the well documented relationship between JFK and his staff and administration with LBJ, I highly doubt he was privy to anything so confidential 2) first of all northwoods, was one of....

[martinishot]

@tua25544 1.Both show a enter an war whatever it takes mentality and that this mindset exists regardless of who sits in the Oval office.One of the Northwoods first proposals was to sink an American naval vessel off Cuban waters which of course is equivalent to what was attempted here.What LBJ did and did not know of Northwoods is not the point to me.The point being that 5 years later the same Pentagon served up another ship sinking to blame on a nation,which according to this,he accepted.

[tua25544]

@martinishot MANY draft options presented at the same time. It doesnt appear that it was ever taken seriously. It wasnt written by Lyman Lemnitzer that we know of, just signed by him- on that what i sed was misleading i guess. Lemnitzer was more or less not even allowed in the white house when northwoods was presented and was viewed as a crack pot by kennedy, according to the biographies i have read. I never sed the bay of pigs occured AFTER northwoods was presented. And I sed that to show more

[martinishot]

@tua25544 A proposal signed by the chairman of the joint chiefs is being taken seriously elsewhere,even if not Kennedy,as far as I am concerned.I have noticed that after March 13,1962, Kennedy showed little trust in the Pentagons recommendations and made the statement about tearing up the CIA and scattering it to the wind.Maybe he came to see them all as crackpots,IE warhawks.

[tua25544]

@martinishot reason why it was never really considered beyond its craziness. 4) I find it hilarious that you tell someone to find info with out spin, and then suggest a search phrase that is most likely to produce almost entirely websites by conspiracy theorists pushing a boarder "truther" agenda, instead of credible and reliable info and analysis where the reader can come to their own conclusion.

[martinishot]

@tua25544 Readers simply searching "gulf of Tonkin" will almost exclusively read the 47 year fable about a ship attacked off the Vietnam coast. They will likely not find the video avail on UTube where McNamara admits the incident did not take place. Also they will not likely find the LBJ tapes,also avail in the LBJ Presidential Library,in which Johnson also admits the same.The release of the Johnson tapes happened first and as I see it, forced McNamara to conceed.

[martinishot]

@tua25544 4. googling "gulf od tokin" what will they find?

[TheSilverback1976]

this is what happens when you are playing both sides. no loyalty, u can not serve 2 masters!

[MrDavidd419]

Very informative. It was as much Americas fault as it was Israel though. And together they did a good job covering it up. I feel bad for the families & those involved =(

[KaiserKalCheckM8]

@MrDavidd419 Totally agree with you that it was both countries' fault. Unfortunately the fallout was felt by the US naval personnel.

[psychedalex]

the hell with Isreal?U ppl are pathetic.this proves the U.S. Government was in on the plot . Fuck our government in that case.

[Musiclover2009able]

TO HELL WITH ISRAEL AND ITS PEOPLE. EGYPTIANS KICKED YOUR ASS IN 1973!

[brachieboo]

OLD MEN I LOVE IT ITS HELL FOR YOU & YOUR JEW FRIENDS YOUR FAMILIES CAN SEE DEATH IN THRYRE FACES OLD CORRUPT TREASONISTS SATAN WILL REMIND YOU MURDERING SCUMDOGS IM HAPPY THE DEAD WILL GET THAT MUCH

[RovingCounter]

If one wants another side to this tragedy, the Anti-Defamation League has an article providing perspective.

[TorchedSkunk]

I cant wait for the next revolution.

[KaiserKalCheckM8]

This documentary is not anti-American or anti-Israel & it is highlighting a cover up by both American and Israeli gov'ts. I am certain that there are other cover ups involving both countries that we do not know about. Interestingly enough, US service men were murdered for the best interests of Israel, not for the interests of USA. Harsh as this may sound, would Israeli service men ever be murdered for the best interests of the US when it was not in the interests of Israel? Food for thought.

[fuckystoat]

@KaiserKalCheckM8 this site is suppressed by the isralien zionist jidf and youtube.......

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the israliens have control of america youtube "dual israeli nationality" they have control of all governmental channels and complete control of mainstream media

this is real information not hyped or sensationalized ....just a scientific and psychological breakdown of the PSYCHE-WARFARE that has been used against YOU.........it was a holohoax now a holoco$t

[MrDavidd419]

@KaiserKalCheckM8 I agree with most of what you said, and even gave you a vote up, but I disagree with what you said about it not being in the best interest of America. Who are you to say that it wasn't in Americas interest? Maybe it wouldn't of been something in your interest but with the Soviets involved it certainly gave reason for Americans to be there.

[KaiserKalCheckM8]

@MrDavidd419 A case can be made that it was in the best interest of the US to have a foothold in MidEast due to the Soviet threat. Israel acted in its own best interest but did the US accurately calculate the odds of success vs failure. For a proper cover-up to occur, the US should have had the Israelis murder not a few, but everyone, and this was clearly botched up. With this in the open, it is a betrayal of trust of its own armed forces which is most definitely not in the US best interests.

[xoomac]

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[Scrinthe]

@Scrinthe learn to spell Politicians ffs :p

[ranlaen]

And the USA government still continues valuing Israel above its own citizens

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, what do you care, Brits? What's your agenda? I know you don't love Americans.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg How did you guess? USA and Israel are the reason for most problems in the world.

We had the same relationship with the USA that USA has with Israel.Glade to say we kicked the doublecrossers out of office.Now the only citizens that matter to our governemt are the Brits.A lesson the US government needs to learn

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, yadda, yadda. I hate the UK.  I don't give a shit what you think, so babble to someone else.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg LOL this moron commented to my post and is offended that I replied to him. The empty pot really makes the loudest noice.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, fuck off.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg What still replying? you just cannt let go can you? 

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, you're a moron.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg LOL still cannt let go. Only people with low intelligence go into insults.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, how old are you? You're an incredible hypocrite -- like you're stupid or something. You keep coming back, but you're chiding me for it. You're an insulting piece of shit, but you're reprimanding me for doing it. Get a brain before you try to condescend people, you complete moron.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg Hey you came to me not me to you. I will not be pulled into insult match with you.I think I should not pull myself to your level which is pretty low.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, what are you whining about now, you stupid anti-American British prick?

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg Have you finished with the insults yet or you still have some more. Sorry they have no effect on me since I know its coming from the likes of you.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, you're a pathetic little man who says nothing. Get therapy.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg what do you expect me to tell you? all you do is insult. you are not capable of an sensable discussion.Sorry but I only say something to normal people.But I will continue to reply you so dont get worried.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, you're the one talking to me, you stupid bitch. Why don't you shut up, kid.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg No you short memoried little monkey, you started talking to me first.But you do not want me to reply you.well thicko, if you do not want anyone to reply,dont comment on their post.See I had gone into your way of talking since its obvious thats only way you understand.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@ranlaen, stop with long rants. I know I've gotten you all wound up, but get a life, you nasty prick.

[ranlaen]

@ShaytanBozorg LOL am I getting to you? Sorry for writting long posts,I should have known it takes you a whole day to read it.I will type S L O W L Y so you can understand .

[alecaf89]

This is Fucking Disgusting. Simply put its just another false flag operation. Operation Northwoods, Lavon Affair, PNAC, Five Dancing Israelis all seem more connected than before.

[jacksawild]

Ah.. the leaders of the "free" world. Where every man, woman and child is valued by a dollar amount. Johnson couldn't look the man in the eye and the publicity would have hurt his party's funding. The plan was clear that there should be no survivors. What kind of military attack includes machine-gunning life rafts? Get the Jews out of "Israel", they don't belong there and every moment they stay is a moment closer to something horrendous happening. This should be the world's only concern.

[Scrinthe]

If the Liberty had not got the SoS out ( only managed because the seamen were so brave at making a makeshift antena ) , History would be very much different and maybe the USA would have had a Atomic Bomb count of 3 being used on another country rather than the 2 on Japan

[nprbiz]

@Scrinthe I'm so glad you noted that as well. the real story is how a crew heroically diverted the evil whims of deviant leaders. The Russian navy was in the med, at the time. It would have been horrific. i can only hope we will be as lucky now.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@Scrinthe, fuck you, Brit.

[deathfortea]

@ShaytanBozorg

2 anti British comments, based on what? the documentary where the American crew members call shenanigans on a blatant illegal move.

Stop being sheep, get that big governmental cock out your mouth and realise they would just as quick sacrifice you and your entire family if it meant they could do something that was financially beneficial to themselves.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@deathfortea, you're the sheep, you nasty Brit.

[ShaytanBozorg]

@Scrinthe, I wish we'd fucking use it on the UK, you nasty anti-American pricks. Shut up.

[Scrinthe]

@ShaytanBozorg

How does what I said make me anti American ?

Im not anti - any- country.

I am though anti LIARS and imo there seems to be alot of those about in not only the USA and UK governments , but most governments in the world.

The little man in the street is expendable.

[tua25544]

@Scrinthe That doesnt make sense. If they hadnt got ten the SOS, no one would have known. The SOS in no way prevented eygpt being nuked. Or am I missing something here?

[Lobos222]

@Scrinthe

If the SOS was not sent, which seemed to be the goal of the first part of the attack, the 6th fleet response doctrine would not have been set in motion. Even if it was a false flag operation the launching of the nuclear capable planes was clearly not part of the plan. Ergo, logic dictates that nuking Egypt wasnt intended and thats why they where recalled.

USA has had better opportunities to nuke other nations for, in their view, worse. North Korea, North Vietnam for example.

[Brovary]

Third of the Congress members that are Jews have double citizenship. Trust me if there is something going on they work on behalf of their wholly land. It was, it is and it will be ! I have nothing against Jews as a nation but they don't care about any other nation at all - THEY CARE ONLY ABOUT THEM SELVES!!!!!! What ever we might say ! RIP Liberty casualties !!!!!

[ubuibiok]

GAZA GAZA GAZA...Joe Meadors was onboard one of the Gaza aid #flotilla ships.

Joe Meadors was a signalman on the bridge of the USS Liberty during the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Mr. Meadors and Francis Brown hauled up a second American Flag after the steaming colors were shot down early in the air attack.

[seanieshoe]

Nice comments everyone, but......

how can we make it difficult for israel ????

seriously they are laughing at us.

stop buying their products...boycott the lot !!

[frugalite]

Just like USS Liberty, they will get away with the murder of 10 unarmed civilians on the Gaza flotilla in international waters today on May 31, 2010.

[frugalite]

Just like USS Liberty, they will get away with the murder of 10 unarmed civilians on the Gaza flotilla in international waters today on May 31, 2010.

[blt40]

Cover Up.

[JuanDeSoCal]

US government -- betrayer of the American people.

[vlad013]

NOW DO U UNDERSTAND POOR AMERICANS WHO DID 9/11??? IT IS THE SAME OLD PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RULE THE WORLD AT THE EXPENSE OF ANY HUMAN LOSS, BE THAT U OR US.

we Muslims never hate Jew or Christian or any people of religion given the fact they dont inflict wrong doing over us. just like ur expection for urself. let us live how we want to. it is the lucifarians who worship anti christ and he will emerge soon from tel aviv, and finally liberty isnt an unique covert assult , just look at history.

[Eugensdiet]

In one of the interviews Johnson is quoted as saying. let the ship sink, or words to the effect, rather than embarrassing our allies. At that point in time the only way he could have known it was Israel was if he was part of the conspiracy. 911 a conspiracy? don't know but I don't rule it out.

[verasmayhem]

I see lots of people speaking out on Israel in these comments. What about the US Gov involvement? In video 6 of 7 watching Defense Secretary Robert McNamara flat out refuse to comment pisses me off! Our men left to die by our former prez and others? Yeah fuck Israel too but this is not a racial or one sided event. FUCK GOVERNMENT PROFITEERING AND FALSE FLAG ATTACKS!

[doire7]

You're right on the money my friend. This is not the first time the traitor mcnamara has lied. He lied about the gulf of tolkin, you can watch the scumbag admit it in "the fog of war." The man's cowardice knows no depth.

[bersef]

This was just another time that the US of A has been involved in some terrible actions on its own people to enter a war. They did in wars before this one and they still do it today.

Sad, but true.

[Nebrox]

The US aircraft carrier captain should have have disobeyed orders and blown those Israeli pieces of shit out of the water.  FUCK ISRAEL

[RattlerBK]

I was thinking the exact same thing for years since I learned of this crime. Could've handed Israel their asses and also give the stolen land back to the Palestinans. Maybe someday justice will prevail.

[StephenMaturinMD]

Makes my blood boil to watch that little Israeli Jew Bastard lie and squirm and lie about it all being a mistake due to the speed of the war......so quick that they had time to erase the markings from the aircraft? Lying little shit.

[as2711]

@StephenMaturinMD

in the speed of War Israel has also ignored UN schools with innocent children sheltering from the bombing, even though they had the co-ordinates, Israel tends to forget its humanity when it comes to war

[kakompo]

The Congressional Medal of Honor- the highest honor a soldier hopes to ever receive has ALWAYS been presented by the President in the White House. Why was this one an exception and done under wraps?

[kakompo]

Why were they ordered not to talk about the attack under the threat of court Marshall? Allen Blue's wife had NSA in her house for a whole month and she has till this day never received the explanation as to how her husband ended up on the Liberty...Purple Hearts given in secrecy? Am I the only one who feels something is seriously wrong somewhere and it all doesn't add up?

[bigcree]

I have two words here: Screw Israel. Period.

[SnatchTease]

@bigcree It's not Israel per say, but the fundamental belief in Zionism.

[bigcree]

@SnatchTease Yes and it is run by Zionists.

[ModernPharaoh77]

They did this in hopes of getting EGYPT blamed for it!!! Many little shady sly manauvers like these are done by Israel, also check the LAVON AFFAIR when ISraelis recruited Egyptian Jews to bomb American cinemas & British places in EGYPT in the 1950's to cause problems between Egypt & those countries! Sadly what ended up happening is the Egyptian Jews were looked at as a 5th column & not tursted & eventually most of them left Egypt!

[ModernPharaoh77]

Israeli pilot:

"This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?"

Ground control:

"Yes, follow orders."

Pilot:

"But sir, it's an American ship. I can see the flag!"

Ground control:

"Never mind, hit it!"

[wolgreth]

charge the ones who ordered it (both sides), they are the real criminals.

[mistertakeda]

Thanks for saying that. This subject brings out so much antisemitic nonsense. The only people to blame are the ones behind it. And some of them are definitely Americans.

[bikers4liberty]

May Israel burn in ashes.

[Amhlair]

May LBJ burn in hell for his part in this. Amen.

[PeterMayer]

People who give the orders...they get away with murder.....well put.

[glasshour76]

For those of you under 30 years of age, never forget the USS Liberty...

[Spartakus420]

How can we forget, this is a very important event in the history of this great country. And we should learn from this too, keep an eye on Israel.

[flyhead2]

There was much monkey-business throughout this war. The Russians seemingly enticed the Egyptians to deploy armour in the Sanaii yet could not supply spare parts for equipment sold to the Arabs. There were 2 British aircraft carriers in the region (Bulwark and Eagle) and the Jordainians reported seeing radar imagry of aircraft taking off from these prior to the destruction of the Egyptian airforce and much of their armour. If the truth ever came out about this war ......

[b5kalad]

flyhead2, there were still events/issues about WW2 that didn't come out until the 1980's. That is a long time!!

The British didn't admit they were reading German radio messages until (I believe) 1970.

[KansasRangers]

I would have faked radio failure in my F4 Phantom, floored it, and blown the living spit out of the attackers planes, helicopters and boats.

[bronsonpaul]

this sounds the same as 9/11....the conspiracy.

i bet the plot is the same

[polygamous1]

God knows what pain many US pilots n advisors felt when ordered to fight For a country that murdered their OWN the scam called US politicians Victorious israel? at american's expense not just the bloody crooked politicians BUT innocent good americans who joined believing they were joining the military for country for freedom MURDERED LIKE DOGS I HOPE THEY ROT IN HELL everyone responsible for this they got away WITH GOLD BLOOD MURDER n NOW run america

[polygamous1]

worse was this: WHAT THE US PILOTS ON THE FLEET must have felt when they were ordered Not to help their own under attack with the intention of ALL personel to be murdered FUCK ORDERS what victorious i heard in yahoo discusion rooms B4 zionist money took it off air israel was about to nuke Damascus n Cairo IF the arab armies didn't stop israel was loosing remember them blackmailed america to help them "win" or they'll nuke them the victory came from US Jets/pilots in israeli colours

[ichirojm]

what a cover up.If Israel can do this how can Gza a small area can defand itself,how could they,Israel tou scumbags!

[hooknosehowie]

fuck israel !!jews are the scumbags of planet earth !!as an irish american living in NYC i will do the irish jig in the streets when israel is distroyed by the arabs !!just to think how people will sell out there country and ship mates by being silent is awfull!!!

[Signzit]

Thanks for this data, I've read all of this but video brings it home. Certainly for those young folks, still asleep.

I have had many friends that were in Israel at the time, as military advisors; mostly Tanks and Arty. I am glad most of these men have died without this knowledge.