@MuslimView One of the many reasons I rejected Islam and Christianity is because of Apostasy and being threatened with being burned in hell for eternity for not believing.
@MuslimView Atheists belive religion and religous books were created by man. So if you're going to quote from religous books to them, you may as well quote stuff from a Harry Potter book.
If Atheism bothers you, spend time conversing with atheists, find out why they became atheists in the first place and address that problem. Shouting irrelevant stuff at people just makes it look like you don't know what your'e talking about.
@MuslimView About creation, evolution and where did the universe come from etc. The basic answer is that science hasn't found out all the answers yet and it may never find the answers but as an atheist I can live with that. Just as you live with god has always been and will always be.
Hey @MuslimView - Are you a Muslim JUST so you can sleep with girls that are 12 and 13 years old??? Is it that you belive a female should be stoned because a man raped her???
Ignore my question if you wish - it only makes my point stronger.
The koran teaches that the earth is flat do you believe that. Your brain washed as a kid you never had a chance. Religion is a disease and you just proved it.
A third option is that energy has existed for all time, even though time itself has a finite past - which happens to be what the best evidence points toward - thus conveniently refuting the false bifurcation religious people have been making for thousands of years to try to logic their deities into existence. Thanks universe!
who says matter and energy has always existed? last i checked there was no consensus on what forces and properties exist outside of our known universe. which in case you were unaware, is where the universe would have been formed
How do you get from the creation of the universe to your god??
Not nothing...a singularity! And what makes you think the Bb needed a creator? How do you know the BB wasn't part of an ongoing natural process that happens repeatedly?
Regardless, just bcuz we don't have all the answers, you can't use that to claim a ghost-god did it!
Since the beginning of known history, when has science, anyone or anything, ever found a supernatural cause for the mysteries we've solved??? Never! Why expect it now?
How do you get from the creation of the universe to your god??
Not nothing...a singularity! And what makes you think the Bb needed a creator? How do you know the BB wasn't part of an ongoing natural process that happens repeatedly?
Regardless, just bcuz we don't have all the answers, you can't use that to claim a ghost-god did it!
Since the beginning of known history, when has science, anyone or anything, ever found a supernatural cause for the mysteries we've solved??? Never! Why expect it now?
Give me a break... this guy has a bad camera and he has no understanding of the big bang.... Its a shame that so many people have been led to believe that the big bang originated from a single point in space. It didnt... im tired of answering this. current models of the big bang show that the entierity of spacetime was created from the entropy (or extreme lack) of energy and a smooth spacetime of hydrogen gas emerged.
Nice Qu'ran verses so what was brought to the table that had any effect in the end?
If I see all the comments here it seemrs this video is rather counter effective. Mmm strange how that goes not?
But that is the fate of any faith based video or idea.. it simply only is accepted by those of said faith. And those who once we´ re but left easily poke holes into it...
Interesting times aren't they allot of changes happening. So quick even!
Hello Atheist, first of all there is only one God. the zeus, buddist, hinduist,... Gods are only the imagination of man. The one and only God who created us all is the one who deserves to be worshipped with no partner. The reason why i'm a Muslim not a christian or a Jew is that Quran answered all my questions. i believe it's the word of God because no man can write alike of it, and it's something above the intelligence of mankind.
@MuslimView Wow that was empty and bland. I am completely uninspired. I asked you a question, I didn't ask you to write me a romantic poem. I'll ask it again: give me one reason your God makes sense but Zeus doesn't.
'Because' is not a reason. I don't want to hear the stories of your little friend. Reasons, logic. Give me it.
By the way, if you think the Quran is 'above the intelligence on mankind', you hate mankind. Seriously. We didn't put a man on the moon due to the Quran.
@MuslimView How do you know that the God you profess to know is not the same in actuality as those other Gods? You say, "[They] are.. the imagination of men," but who can say that it wasn't Divine power that inspired those thoughts into these men, so that they, limited by human perception and brokeness, might be able to have a glimps of who God is. Why are you so fortunate, yet they aren't?
@MuslimView Wait, so all other gods are imagination, but not yours? And I'm pretty sure I can write a better book than the Quran, its gonna have aliens and stuff.
@MuslimView AHAHAHAHA! there is a lower probability for the abrahemic god to exist, then the hindu gods, since there is more of them. its wuite useless by the way to try to "disprove" atheism, since its a neutral standpoint. it only says, a non-belief in deities. please stop making videos if they dont have any relevency
I'll give you that the universe had a beginning, at the big bang. Let's say that this incorrect scientific sentence is true.
That has nothing to do with the question of whether or not there is a god. Since the universe might have either been created by a god, or might have popped out of randomness by itself, or other options.
the only correct scientiffic thing that you've said is "beginning vs no beginning". The rest is simply BS.
then the qur'an is wrong, because the expansion of the universe is not steady...
but if i brought you another religious book that said "but it was zeus that expands the universe in an accelerated way" would you then believe in zeus?
you see, these arguments did not convince you to become a muslim, and nor will they convince anyone else.
one more thing about the singularity: we can NOT say that "it" was any type of beginning, simply because the theories break down at that point.
Having no proof God doesn't exist doesn't automatically mean He does.
I have a question for you about your other video that a Christian put to me about other religions - why is the Christian God the only God that heals people through faith? This person told me he asked a Muslim and the Muslim couldn't answer. What's your answer?
It's obvious you don't understand the science you're going on about! You should really learn your subject matter properly before you comment on it like that. :-( Wow.
You have not disproved atheism and neither have you proved it. You sound like all the Christians I've heard using those arguments who also didn't understand the science and who used parts of scientific theory out of context to "prove" their theory that God exists.
Good grief! Your "scientific" points made NO sense scientifically speaking. All your scientifically related points were all arbitrary too.
It also makes no sense that you discount one blind faith with another blind faith. You've also missed the point that scientists know something once it's proved - until that point they don't know or they have a working theory. The only "belief" that comes into science is a theory a scientist holds.
I must have missed the bit in the Quran which talks about the Universe expanding from a singularity...either that or you're just interpreting vauge scripture to fit known reality.
@weadone You obviously don't know the difference between a scientific "theory" and "fact." A theory does NOT mean the same thing as an hypothesis. Theories are explanations of phenomena that have withstood rigorous testing without fault and may contain several facts and laws as part of its make-up. You don't get any stronger than a theory in science.
And, by the way, we've WITNESSED evolution in plants, bacteria. . .AND BIRDS.
@weadone First, you had it right the first time: "prove."
Second, there are hundreds of videos on youtube that do just that. You expect me to cover all the evidence in a text box in less than 500 characters? Are you too lazy to look it up yourself? Whatever, I'll just show you a few.
Here's a great lecture by Ken Miller on the Dover Trial (skip to 30:00 through 51:00 for some evidence of evolution): watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
Here's some dumbed-down evidence for the BB: watch?v=uyCkADmNdNo
@weadone And it's harder to get better than WITNESSING evolution. We've seen it in the lab and we've seen it in nature. That's why flu shots get updated. That's why a new species of bird was generated in the Galapagos (from the same species Darwin studied, in fact). We've SEEN it. How much more proof do you need?
@weadone Did you fail to see the post with links to the evidence, dumbass?
And I don't understand how YOU can claim that a person can accept evolution and not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution can be summed up as "evolution happens." Are you that retarded?
It also follows logically (though I realize you have no concept of the meaning of "logic") that if we WITNESS EVOLUTION, EVOLUTION HAPPENS, AND THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS TRUE.
The theory of evolution is about the origin of the DIVERSITY of species. You'd know this if you took your head out of your ass. It doesn't just talk about humans, it talks about EVERY ANIMAL ON EARTH.
@weadone Oh, and we HAVE proven that humans evolved, too. You'd see the evidence if you bothered to watch the Ken Miller link. What's the point of asking for evidence if you're not going to look at it?
@MagicActor1987 oh wow are you for real......what did we evolve from ???the origins of the diversity of species.....ha ha ha dude wtf how about its easier to believe the bible than that.
it is fuck all to do with it.and now telling me it is about the diversity of all life on earth?reread the fuking title dweeb the theory of evoloution is a two hundred year old unproven suggestion about the origin of our species.
evoloution is the slight changes and adaptions life makes to survive.
@weadone Do you mean Darwin's "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection"? It's the ORIGIN OF SPECIES, not ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES, not ORIGIN OF THE HUMAN SPECIES, just ORIGIN OF SPECIES. And it's extended title talks about natural selection, which is the explanation of how life got so diverse! Are you fucking retarded?
By the way, the theory of evolution was made before Darwin. He proposed the mechanism by which it worked, which we've proven with genetics and other sciences.
@weadone The simple matter is you won't accept proof. You won't change your mind because you don't want to. Evolution is one of the best supported theories in science, even more supported than the theory of gravity. Evolution has made numerous testable predictions and has always been found to be correct. It stands unchallenged by evidence. The fossil record shows it, the DNA evidence shows it, geology shows it, and most importantly, we've seen it in real-time. How anyone can deny it boggles me.
@weadone It's called "Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation." Science has a different meaning for the word "theory" than the one you insist on using.
@weadone Holy crap you must be trolling. For the thousandth time. . .A "THEORY" IN SCIENCE DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES. THEORIES DON'T GO FROM "THEORY" TO "FACT," NOR DOES IT GO FROM "THEORY" TO "LAW." THEY ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES. A THEORY CAN NEVER BE A LAW, IT'S THE HIGHEST IT CAN GO.
@weadone "he he he why are you saying this ? it sort of tells you that in the books title." -- Because you seem to be too simple to understand the easiest concepts. . .such as what a scientific theory is.
"as i say it takes as much faith to believe in the scientific reasons about life as it does the religous versions." -- No, it takes much, much less, because we have something called E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E. There were ways to test the concept...and it was shown to be true. As I said, we've SEEN it.
@weadone Why do you keep asking, even after I give you evidence? What's wrong with you?
We've seen it in flies, birds, fish, plants, and bacteria. We have body parts that serve no function (such as a tail bone...and we also have the rare person born with that tail). We have our genetic code containing a fused chromosomal pair, discovered only because it was predicted by evolution. We have geological layers showing no overlap between types of animal found (i.e. no humans with dinosaurs). TBC
@weadone (Continued.) We have fossils showing it (such as tiktaalik). What's better, the fossil and genetic evolutionary maps independently agree with each other. Body parts hidden in the skulls of the transitional fossils (a phrase which I don't like to use, because everything is transitional) were found as evolution predicted. Body parts that some have claimed to be "irreducibly complex" have been widely disproven. We use it to success in medical fields. What do YOU have? A book?
@weadone "the fossil map can't be acurately dated. ie, saying it roamed the earth 60-65 million years ago is not an accurate dateing systeme ." -- Yes it is. It's not perfectly exact, but science never is, and not having an exact date nailed down doesn't make the dating any less correct.
"and as for your genetic map well lets not start with the flaws in that." -- Because you can't name any. And would anyone take your word over someone who actually STUDIES this for a living?
@MagicActor1987 "the fossil map can't be acurately dated. ie, saying it roamed the earth 60-65 million years ago is not an accurate dateing systeme" -- Further, this is like saying that people studying the length of flashlights finds one to be between 10-12 inches, but since it's not exact, you find it more likely to be 0.000001 inches because you read something on someone's facebook wall to that effect.
@weadone "the world were told the sun went round us" -- And when science found otherwise, the religious went up in arms and tried to stop that knowledge from getting out. Sound familiar?
"the earth was flat" -- Actually, it was the NON-SCIENTISTS who said this. Those familiar with science knew the world was spherical since the Ancient Greeks.
@weadone "oh now gravity is a theory is it?" -- YES! SCIENTIFIC TERMS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS THAN HOW YOUR RETARDED ASS KEEPS USING THEM.
"how any sane person can take a THEORY and claim it is PROVEN FACT astounds me." -- Look up the fucking word "theory" in science, then come back here and maybe you'll say less stupid shit.
The parts of the record that may not be in the right order are the ones where the fossils are similar! Things like TIKTAALIK are the proof! How can you be so ignorant?
@MagicActor1987 watched it dude theory and study and investigate used a lot still no fucking proof.
why won't you admit that to believe in the theory of evoloution,or the big bang start to it all is like believing in the bibles version. you need faith to fill in the blanks and their are lots of them.
@weadone What the fuck do you consider proof then? The fact that predictions about fused chromosomes could be made by evolution (when there's NO REASON to have made that prediction otherwise) isn't proof? Witnessing evolution in bacteria, plants, and birds isn't proof? The fact that we were able to find the specific species we were looking for by using evolution to map out which layers of earth to search isn't proof?
What the fuck is proof to you? You MUST be mentally challenged.
If your holy book made scientific discoveries hundreds of years ago, why didn't your people use that knowledge to further your civilization back then? Why did you discredit this information centuries ago only to say "We thought of it first" like kids in grade school? I have heard the arguments that Islam was the first to know the earth was round, that space travel was possible, the concept of the atom bomb...but they never seem to be able to apply this knowledge.
@AmosTheTalented actaully muslims in the "dark ages" , we call it golden ages, many scientific discoveries were found. examples: algebra, trigonometry, medical achievements (and surgical instruments), algorithms, first windmill, first parachute, first pinhole camera, and more...
Sagan put it best when he said (paraphrased) If we assume the universe had to have a creator, then we must ask the next question, "Who created the creator?" "If we can believe god always existed, why not skip a step and believe the universe always existed?"
Say I accepted all of your logic, which I don't, and said "Yes, the universe needed a creator.", why must that creator be a "supreme being" or "deity", and not some other unknown phenomenon?
I just wish people weren't so ignorant for certain things. Seriously, why can't we just let someone believe what ever they want to believe. we can't decide everyone's mind for them. just the only thing I ask is to leave me out of it. Oh, you believe in Allah? I believe that I don't really give a shit, and I just wanna go back to worrying about important things. Like, family problems, a bullet to the head, etc. Oh yeah, allah durka durka durka. hahahaha sorry, I had to...
Where do we get these smug, self-satisfied morons from? They listen to a zombie mullah, they think they now know all the answers, they come on here and preach like they've some god given right to browbeat everyone into submission... and after they fail miserably they keep going? Take a hint kid: your fairy tales are nonsense to anyone with an enlightened mind. If you want to waste your life on religious Nonsense, go ahead. But the rest of us will be good and happy without it thanks very much
@MrConsarnit yep. you can either go up or down? oh actually, you can go forward and back too. fact is, no-one knows how or when the universe started or if it has always been here. some people cannot deal with not knowing so they create religion to explain t, this is a natural result of evolution into an intelligent mind that is able to ask itself "where do I come from"? as far as we know, nothing before humanity has ever asked that question.
Honestly, I can respect you because I have a muslim friend and believe people should have the freedom to choose their beliefs/ non beliefs, but just hear me out. This video doesn't disprove atheism, but simply put words in our mouth and make fun of them. you don't know enough about science or logic as a whole to put up an argument like this, because if you did, you'd see the flaws in your argument. you said stuff can't come from nothing, where did your god come from? also, burden shifting. :)
Disproving atheism = Disproving the "non belief" of people who have based their knowledge on the evidence presented by those who "beleive", and considered it not sufficient enough to base any conclusions on. So basically your video is about disproving the action of critical thought and you have the nerve to consider that scientific?
Ah the Big Bang Theory, does your quran explain why anti matter is totally non existant within our universe. Your quran talks about the Big Bang it should mention why matter dominates the universe, even though equal amounts of matter and antimatter were formed. And you should know why this is an interesting question since you know so much about the Big Bang. This is what people call being intellectualy lazy
Theists beleive there was no beggining aswell. They claim god has always existed. Is it far more likely that a mythical being has existed forever as opposed to energy and matter?
So since most parts of the holy books Quaran/Bible can be disproven, god believers must try arguments for deism. The difference between being deist and atheist is negligible. One believes that some being created the universe, and the other says there is some unknown reason as to why the universe is the way it is.
First, you just failed thermodynamics, you present a silly caricature of the second law, this makes you sound like a clown. Like, you're going to teach physicists physics (LOL). Second, please show me your Hydrogen data and calculations, or are you just making things up?
Why, do you think you can use fake science to disprove science?
And what logic is that how something came from nothing and created something? You contradict your own sayings "nothing will never become something out of nothing" with your logic we shouldn't exist at all, nothing shouldn't exist. You do understand that God or Allah (or whatever) have to be extremely complicated of his own in order to create such complex Universe, then who created him, someone so complex couldn't just popped in to existence and it's not logical to think that he always existed
Hey retard, why are you asking Atheists these questions? Why don't you ask Scientists, or better yet investigate the big bang theory yourself? You're a scientifically illiterate moron. Here's a question for you. If Allah created the universe then who or what created Allah? If you were born in North America you'd be a Christian Apologist instead of a Muslim one. Dumb-Da-Dumb-Dumb. Allah did not always exist. Intelligent people refute his very existence, just like all imaginary Gods.
What do you want with the question "How can something be created out of nothing"? You will get the answer when you can explain where God came from. Who created God? How can you explain that God has always existed? How can you explain all the information that God possesses when information can't come from nothing? How can God create something out of nothing?
You don't have a clue. At least others are searching for the answers.
Most cosmologists believe in a singularity, i.e. a point of zero size at time 'zero'. In quantum theory something can come from nothing. Particles can pop in to and out of existence, i.e. there doesn't need to be a creator.
If you had been born in to a Hindu family you would be a Hindu and not a Muslim.
A story of some Muslims trying to convince other Muslims about what is the 'true' Islam.
""Pakistani Sufi sites have frequently been the target of Islamist militant groups, whose hardline interpretations of the religion leave no room for the more mystical Sufi practices that are common in this Sunni Muslim-majority nation of 175 million. Earlier this year in the eastern city of Lahore, nearly 50 people were killed in a similar attack at another major Sufi shrine.""
Evolution is a done deal. When the genome was decoded, that was the final nail in the coffin. Evolution is a fact as established by many disciplines, by many people who dedicated their lives to observe facts and derive conclusions about reality. Not imaginary myths conjured up by superstitious people of 2000 years ago. You're assumption of what atheism is, is incorrect. It's a rejection of stories told without evidence. God is not perceptibly self-evident and that's a lot like not existing
So how was god, which is something, come into existence, FROM NOTHING??? I love this video because it's like the "Creationists Greatest Hits" album. And of course "...second law of thermodynamics.." Really? What are the other laws? I bet you had or still have no idea whatsoever what the others are when you first used this argument. Besides, it applies to closed systems, the universe is NOT one.
in quantom mechanics nothing is something because if you take a peice of nothing in space and remove all atoms and particles you will find there are millions of other particles popping in and out of existance.
You start out by using the term "idiots", and go on to use this term several times throughout your video. Now, being a man of intelligence and if I disagree with your opinion, I suppose that makes me an "idiot". Perhaps you know it all. But regardless, you have a terrible way of getting your point across. Just my observation
@JamesSCameron - he is saying "atheists". His basic fault is using the Quran as proof of his arguments. The Quran, like the Bible, is a man made book filled with goobledygoogk ,meant to bamboozle us.
@gulsbyjag LOL. Oh my god, you're right. I'm so sorry.. it sounded just like "idiots'. That's the drawback of being an English-speaking person of purely Scottish and English heritage, I suppose. I feel so stupid now... (<--hides under a rock)
@JamesSCameron - LOL. I've been debating MuslimViews positions for a couple of years. He has a well developed 'brainwashed' view of the world as promoted by Muslim apologetics. As an atheist, I've come to view the very idea of a 'loving', 'powerful', 'compassionate' 'god' to be silly in view of 'his' creating a devil and a hell to take care of all of us who don't believe in 'him/her/it'. LOL.
@gulsbyjag I tend to agree. What I fail to understand is why a loving God could possibly do what he has to his children, condemn a soul merely for not their "worship"; it all gets a bit selfish to me. I highly believe that most religions (Muslims, Christians, etc) actually "enhance" bigotry and prejudice among their believers. I've got my beliefs, I'm sure you have yours, and Muslim has his.. what is the point of trying to "convince" anybody? It's all somewhat childish. My opinion.
@gulsbyjag Bottom line, nobody really knows for sure.. and those who claim they DO know for sure, have closed their minds so tightly, that nothing is going to open it except their own experience. I feel that I know for certaint (in my own mind) that we do have souls. I say this because I've had what I feel is proof. I'm not about to try and push my thoughts on another human being, though. To me, that's just absurd. Even if Muslimviews has it right, I think even HIS God will forgive me.
@JamesSCameron - thanks for your input. I get people saying "Why don't you just live and let live?" Well, when the religious fundamentalists continue to try to write their beliefs into our laws, I'll continue to speak out.
@gulsbyjag Hmm.. Furthermore, another huge problem with these religions that are based upon "a written word", is interpretation. Believers tend to believe what they want to believe and what means one thing to one can be stretched the entire opposite direction. If I was God, I'd make sure there was no misunderstanding, and I'd not have MAN write my word for me. Plus, I'd update it on a semi-regular basis AT LEAST. Lol. With the Quran and Bible both, he's sure left a lot of gray areas, no?
@JamesSCameron Heck, Jim Jones managed to take God's loving word of the Bible and get these nearly a thousand followers at the time to partake in a mass suicide! How twisted is that!?
@JamesSCameron - I agree with your points. It's also true that society progresses and our definitions and understandings change. We have a great constitution that was interpreted to allow slavery, the denial of the right of women to vote, etc. We have to update our rules from time to time. We don't stone people to death for gathering wood on the sabbath as 'god' ordered in Numbers and we don't burn people at the stake for heresy as was done by catholics and protestants 400 years ago.
Can theists contribute to our understanding of nature with something more intelligent than the gods did it, it might have been a revolution in thinking for the caveman but for the 21st century man it is plain stupid; how does it help in our quest for knowledge? Your knowledge of science must be very superficial at best if you refer to that load of crap in the Quran as science facts, after all this is the same credible source that recommends wife beating, polygamy and doesn’t forbid slavery.
Muslims are one of the dumbest groups of people in the world. Don't try to sound smart by misinterpreting information done by people that have no relation to your religion.
Atheism is not based on blind-faith - atheism follows the evidence wherever it leads, it just so happens that the evidence has not yet lead to the indication of a supernatural wizard living in the sky.
The golden teapot, pours shunshine tea into the SUN! it's invisible so cant be seen, I know it's there, i read about it in a really really old book, it was so old, it just has to be true, and on it there is an inscription, invisiblke so it cant be read, but that says on it. 'There is no God, ONLY SUNSHINE TEA'
sir, u are brainwashed. there is no god. i would argue but im tired of shit theist arguements. and im sure many atheists are. if u would like to argue, plz msg me and i will at a later time, when this anger escapes me.
@GCmaster5000 the thing is, when some ones main argument is "yer but there's no proof God doesnt exist" you are already on a losing streak! the next best argument is the, I dont know how the universe got here, God must have done it"
the argument that's there's no proof 'something doesnt exist' is beyond amazment, anything that does not exist, has 0% proof THAT it doesnt exist, so that argument is void, but these ppl cannot see how stupid that argument is.
I'm looking for a god that didn't make so many mistakes (fallen angel, man made in his image goes bad and gets kicked out of eden, Israelites behaving so badly that he has to send 10 commandments, destruction of Sodom and Ghomorra, Noah and the destruction of the earth by flood) and worst of all, building a big fire pit in which to burn me and the majority of human beings (that he created in his image [do we look like him, have his power, act like hoim?]). Such a joke!
God is the only one who doesn't make mistakes, except him everyone makes mistakes and everyone is too limited to understand the basics of this life ..
what you call destruction, flood, earthquake ...etc shows us how would the situation be if there was no intelligent mind beyond the universe, the question that we should ask is: why is this life continue to survive?why isn't there a big flood that will kill all people or an earthquake that will end the life on earth? why are people still alive?
As i said before our mind is too limited to understand the basics of this life .. our interpretations will be just in the limited level of our intelligence ..
the existence of evil confirms with the existence of God .. evil was created by God to test us in this life .. in the end all of us will return to him .. God will reward us for the sufferings we suffered and for the evil he created for us .. that's why he told us in Quran we should be patient in this life ..
Let's pretend that you are god and are just creating the world.
Would you create a hell for those who just don't believe in you?
Would you send me to hell to burn for eternity because I don't believe in you?
For me, I look around and I see a world that acts like there is no one up there doing anything. If I get sick, I live or die by the hands of doctors and the actions my body and of other living creatures (bacteria, etc.).
@MuslimView I do not see enough evidence to believe in ANY god. No proof that a god does anything in the world today. No proof of an 'afterlife'. Just many confused 'holy' books ands a LOT of religious people saying that other religious people are WRONG. If there is a god, maybe someday science will describe him/her/it in terms that most of us can agree on.
there are unlimited proofs of the existence of God .. either logical or scientific .. but Atheists prefer to doubt than reason ..
whenever i ask Atheists why is there a design in the universe .. some of them say there is no design .. and others say nature designed it .. while the more intelligent of them say we don't know ..
well, here are two scientific proofs of the existence of God:
1) the first cause: it must be self-existent, unlike matter/energy
2) the golden ratio: there must be intelligent mind that created the creation in such organized ratio. this ratio could be noticed in all creation including human bodies, plates,...etc
@MuslimView You need to define what constitutes as "designed." Also, you need to address the fact that we have only experienced "design" in our own universe. You cannot logically conclude that our universe is designed without proving that other universes, which have yet to be proven as existing in the first place, are also designed. Also, simply saying that proof exists does not give us the proof. You need to provide evidence to support your claims.
If something happens billions of times similarly, accurately, with no difference, how would you define it? design or chance?
As we know chance is something that happens randomly, and it doesn't give the same results EVERYTIME. If there is similar, organized, coordinated results, there must be an intelligent mind that organized them.
@MuslimView No, that's a non sequitur that you're using as a scapegoat to excuse your unfounded argument. Snowflakes are perfectly symmetrical shapes are a naturally occurring phenomenon, as are many other things in the world/universe. Until you can prove to me that the undiscovered multiverse is also designed, you cannot logically conclude that our universe is designed, since we know from *experience* whether things are designed or not.
@MuslimView Also, your theory leaves out things that from our experience appear to be free of intelligent design, while your argument seeks to point out that the entire universe is designed. If everything in the universe is designed, then everything in the universe should be able to be immediately identified as such from our experience. You lack empiric evidence that proves any sort of supernatural deity/higher power. Your opinion on what counts as designed is not good enough to be "proof."
@MuslimView - If 'design' gets it right EVERYTIME, why so many spontaneous mis-carriages? Why so many birth defects? Why so many diseases, earthquakes, etc.?
@MuslimView "Why is there design in the universe?" Is a silly question posed to support your silly notion. Don't you see that? A better question is "Why is there order in the universe?"
@MuslimView "Why is there design in the universe?" Is a silly question that is designed to support your silly fairy tale. Let's try it again, shall we?
@MuslimView you are using circular reasoning. By even using the word design you are assuming a designer. You are saying that there is design, so there is a designer. That is not proof, it is a redunadnt definition, and a meaningless argument.
what about the foreskin? what about the mistakeof leaving the tree of knowledge unguarded. if you are clothed, or using knowlege gained from the tree, ie cars/computers etc you are a sinner! Eden had no toilets!
You sir are a moron, we evolved from a line of apes that were biped's like us, Australopithecus afarensis, the reason there are non, you utter muppet, is because they evolved into us.
Adam and Eve only had sons, were did the other humans
the next thing to happen, this muslim wont answer any of our questions, and will ignore, and then repeat the same nonsense to others, if they pose any of the same questions as us, again they willbe ignored and the next batch will be treated the same, the next step is to post bible quotes to questions that cant be answered. this is the way of the God fearing morons!
If you dont know how somehting works, do you always make up a fantatistical and unprovable theory, god is only a theory and nothing what so ever more, Like GOD DID IT? do you understand genetics in any way at all, like the genetic make up of humans or how many different genetic codes it takes to have a non inbred working code? do you beleive every thing in the bible as truth, even tho 100% impossible, ie, noah and his ark, 2 of evey creature on the planet wud take a ship the size of the UK?
Definition of faith: the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. Atheists do not have a confident belief in any truth, we believe because we have testable proof of what we believe as true. Religion is the belief in faith because u have the confident belief without testable proof. Therefore, atheists have the lack of belief, the lack of faith. U r using the usual argument of nothing came from nothing which is not the belief atheists hold.
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@MuslimView One of the many reasons I rejected Islam and Christianity is because of Apostasy and being threatened with being burned in hell for eternity for not believing.
Why would a god need to do this?
MrSitemaster2 4 days ago
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@MuslimView Atheists belive religion and religous books were created by man. So if you're going to quote from religous books to them, you may as well quote stuff from a Harry Potter book.
If Atheism bothers you, spend time conversing with atheists, find out why they became atheists in the first place and address that problem. Shouting irrelevant stuff at people just makes it look like you don't know what your'e talking about.
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@MuslimView About creation, evolution and where did the universe come from etc. The basic answer is that science hasn't found out all the answers yet and it may never find the answers but as an atheist I can live with that. Just as you live with god has always been and will always be.
MrSitemaster2 4 days ago
Hey @MuslimView - Are you a Muslim JUST so you can sleep with girls that are 12 and 13 years old??? Is it that you belive a female should be stoned because a man raped her???
Ignore my question if you wish - it only makes my point stronger.
LoanerTheOn 1 month ago
Its a shame you
Haven't grasped that evolution is a theory on how things "EVOLVED" . . . Not how things were created in the first place.
And like all THEORIES it invites people to build on it and/or disprove it with a more up to date theory. Religion is stubborn and unreasonable
shellsuitstrangler 1 month ago
Apostasy. explaining to the audience what this means.
lp000028 1 month ago
The koran teaches that the earth is flat do you believe that. Your brain washed as a kid you never had a chance. Religion is a disease and you just proved it.
lp000028 1 month ago
A third option is that energy has existed for all time, even though time itself has a finite past - which happens to be what the best evidence points toward - thus conveniently refuting the false bifurcation religious people have been making for thousands of years to try to logic their deities into existence. Thanks universe!
eventhisidistaken 2 months ago
Hilarious. The karan is packed full of scientific inaccuracies you fail to mention, conveniently.
0TheGuru0 3 months ago
who says matter and energy has always existed? last i checked there was no consensus on what forces and properties exist outside of our known universe. which in case you were unaware, is where the universe would have been formed
overlordcacius 5 months ago
@eric6942069 Well, implicit is more default.
retrogamerist 5 months ago
How do you get from the creation of the universe to your god??
Not nothing...a singularity! And what makes you think the Bb needed a creator? How do you know the BB wasn't part of an ongoing natural process that happens repeatedly?
Regardless, just bcuz we don't have all the answers, you can't use that to claim a ghost-god did it!
Since the beginning of known history, when has science, anyone or anything, ever found a supernatural cause for the mysteries we've solved??? Never! Why expect it now?
Cootabux 5 months ago
How do you get from the creation of the universe to your god??
Not nothing...a singularity! And what makes you think the Bb needed a creator? How do you know the BB wasn't part of an ongoing natural process that happens repeatedly?
Regardless, just bcuz we don't have all the answers, you can't use that to claim a ghost-god did it!
Since the beginning of known history, when has science, anyone or anything, ever found a supernatural cause for the mysteries we've solved??? Never! Why expect it now?
Cootabux 5 months ago
Lets say that god was real, why should we worship him anyway? I have better things to do with my time ¬¬
killaguy555 5 months ago
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Atheism isnt a belief, just like non-Alcoholics are not Alcoholics...
Vikramthewhite 5 months ago
Atheism isnt a belief, just like non-Alcoholics are not Alcoholics...
Vikramthewhite 5 months ago
Atheism isnt a belief, just like non-Alcoholics are not Alcoholics...
Vikramthewhite 5 months ago
There's a fundamental difference between science and religion:
Science is a humbling and character-building experience which is why scientific theories never will become a colossal scientific fact.
Religion gives you an easy answer and encourages you not to question it. It is the basis of scientific illiteracy.
ajhrockerboy6 6 months ago
Give me a break... this guy has a bad camera and he has no understanding of the big bang.... Its a shame that so many people have been led to believe that the big bang originated from a single point in space. It didnt... im tired of answering this. current models of the big bang show that the entierity of spacetime was created from the entropy (or extreme lack) of energy and a smooth spacetime of hydrogen gas emerged.
DaBluedude100 7 months ago
Athiesm isn't a beliefe.
OwenMinMusic 8 months ago
show me some solid proof that would hold up in a court of law...dont think that you disproved atheism by telling us about your parents opinions...
GKSkating 9 months ago
Nice Qu'ran verses so what was brought to the table that had any effect in the end?
If I see all the comments here it seemrs this video is rather counter effective. Mmm strange how that goes not?
But that is the fate of any faith based video or idea.. it simply only is accepted by those of said faith. And those who once we´ re but left easily poke holes into it...
Interesting times aren't they allot of changes happening. So quick even!
masticina 9 months ago
Hey Muslim, give me one reason your God makes sense but Zeus doesn't.
BlckSbthMan 9 months ago
Hello Atheist, first of all there is only one God. the zeus, buddist, hinduist,... Gods are only the imagination of man. The one and only God who created us all is the one who deserves to be worshipped with no partner. The reason why i'm a Muslim not a christian or a Jew is that Quran answered all my questions. i believe it's the word of God because no man can write alike of it, and it's something above the intelligence of mankind.
MuslimView 9 months ago
@MuslimView Wow that was empty and bland. I am completely uninspired. I asked you a question, I didn't ask you to write me a romantic poem. I'll ask it again: give me one reason your God makes sense but Zeus doesn't.
'Because' is not a reason. I don't want to hear the stories of your little friend. Reasons, logic. Give me it.
By the way, if you think the Quran is 'above the intelligence on mankind', you hate mankind. Seriously. We didn't put a man on the moon due to the Quran.
BlckSbthMan 9 months ago
@MuslimView How do you know that the God you profess to know is not the same in actuality as those other Gods? You say, "[They] are.. the imagination of men," but who can say that it wasn't Divine power that inspired those thoughts into these men, so that they, limited by human perception and brokeness, might be able to have a glimps of who God is. Why are you so fortunate, yet they aren't?
XHaroldXI 8 months ago
MuslimView
Have you considered that you haven't asked the right questions? You certainly haven't asked "all" the questions.
Does your book deny Evolution? If so, you need not go any further. We now have overwhelming evidence supporting Evolution.
How about that? Maybe you should rethink your claims.
Cootabux 5 months ago
@MuslimView Wait, so all other gods are imagination, but not yours? And I'm pretty sure I can write a better book than the Quran, its gonna have aliens and stuff.
retrogamerist 5 months ago
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@MuslimView AHAHAHAHA! there is a lower probability for the abrahemic god to exist, then the hindu gods, since there is more of them. its wuite useless by the way to try to "disprove" atheism, since its a neutral standpoint. it only says, a non-belief in deities. please stop making videos if they dont have any relevency
RawSwedishMeatball 2 months ago
"...there are only two possible explanations..."
Logical fallacy within the fist 40 seconds. If your premise is flawed: CBA to watch the rest.
bogartnumbertwo 9 months ago
Atheism can't be disproofed since it's not a belief.
It's the lack of a belief, and I'm atheist because I don't see why not too.
Proof that atheism is wrong=Proof that any belief is right.
Please reply with your proof that belief is right and I might seriously listen to you.
Pyanapple 9 months ago
Atheists just love to reject God...... thy want to live their own selfish way and not be accountable to anyone for their actions.
IrnBruDude000 10 months ago
And also, you have no understanding of atheism.
I'll give you that the universe had a beginning, at the big bang. Let's say that this incorrect scientific sentence is true.
That has nothing to do with the question of whether or not there is a god. Since the universe might have either been created by a god, or might have popped out of randomness by itself, or other options.
the only correct scientiffic thing that you've said is "beginning vs no beginning". The rest is simply BS.
De4sher 10 months ago
then the qur'an is wrong, because the expansion of the universe is not steady...
but if i brought you another religious book that said "but it was zeus that expands the universe in an accelerated way" would you then believe in zeus?
you see, these arguments did not convince you to become a muslim, and nor will they convince anyone else.
one more thing about the singularity: we can NOT say that "it" was any type of beginning, simply because the theories break down at that point.
De4sher 10 months ago
"Engage WTF drive, Mr Chekov. Facepalm factor 10."
"Yes, Kiptin."
GjVj 10 months ago 2
Scientifically illiterate moron.
JonBj2 11 months ago
Having no proof God doesn't exist doesn't automatically mean He does.
I have a question for you about your other video that a Christian put to me about other religions - why is the Christian God the only God that heals people through faith? This person told me he asked a Muslim and the Muslim couldn't answer. What's your answer?
ThePinkBinks 11 months ago
It's obvious you don't understand the science you're going on about! You should really learn your subject matter properly before you comment on it like that. :-( Wow.
You have not disproved atheism and neither have you proved it. You sound like all the Christians I've heard using those arguments who also didn't understand the science and who used parts of scientific theory out of context to "prove" their theory that God exists.
ThePinkBinks 11 months ago
Good grief! Your "scientific" points made NO sense scientifically speaking. All your scientifically related points were all arbitrary too.
It also makes no sense that you discount one blind faith with another blind faith. You've also missed the point that scientists know something once it's proved - until that point they don't know or they have a working theory. The only "belief" that comes into science is a theory a scientist holds.
ThePinkBinks 11 months ago
Most of the wording in any religious text you'll find is too cryptic to conclude on any single point.
Though the few times that you can ascertain a vague idea of the meaning can be refuted like so:
"We made from water every living thing"
It doesn't take anything but a sharp object to discover that animals contain a lot of liquid.
That's not science, it's observation for dipshits.
Aldeni1551 11 months ago
Hey guys, lets treat religion like our dicks, KEEP IT TO YOURSELVES (unless someone asks.)
krunkaintdead69 1 year ago
Look up zero-point energy. (Something can come from nothing, whether you understand that or not.)
tastypaper 1 year ago
does the Quran describe Hubble's law, Friedmann equations or cosmic microwave background radiation?
another religious type cherry picking science for what suits their dogma and dismissing what doesn't.
longhairedfreakz 1 year ago
I must have missed the bit in the Quran which talks about the Universe expanding from a singularity...either that or you're just interpreting vauge scripture to fit known reality.
Serpent0fEden 1 year ago
prove the big bang theory. you believe something suddenly came into existense and went bang and created life ???? .
we don't know how the begining started and we never will.
to totally believe theory as fact shows a complete misunderstanding of words.
and that goes for the theory of a god.
and the reason the universe is growing is ,
all the planets move around stars, so over time those other star system's gravitational pull and throw will effect the universe. expanding it.
weadone 1 year ago
@weadone ...That makes no fucking sense, dude.
Also, by the way, a scientific theory is the strongest a scientific explanation can ever be. Get YOUR words right.
And look up the Big Bang, while you're at it.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 your problem if you can't understant it........big bang is not fact .
it is like the theory of evoloution ...it is just a theory it is not proven fact.
why don't ya learn it.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone You obviously don't know the difference between a scientific "theory" and "fact." A theory does NOT mean the same thing as an hypothesis. Theories are explanations of phenomena that have withstood rigorous testing without fault and may contain several facts and laws as part of its make-up. You don't get any stronger than a theory in science.
And, by the way, we've WITNESSED evolution in plants, bacteria. . .AND BIRDS.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 prove the big bang..proove the theory of evoloution...our origins.
you prove that to me and i will concede.......PROOVE....
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone First, you had it right the first time: "prove."
Second, there are hundreds of videos on youtube that do just that. You expect me to cover all the evidence in a text box in less than 500 characters? Are you too lazy to look it up yourself? Whatever, I'll just show you a few.
Here's a great lecture by Ken Miller on the Dover Trial (skip to 30:00 through 51:00 for some evidence of evolution): watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
Here's some dumbed-down evidence for the BB: watch?v=uyCkADmNdNo
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@weadone And it's harder to get better than WITNESSING evolution. We've seen it in the lab and we've seen it in nature. That's why flu shots get updated. That's why a new species of bird was generated in the Galapagos (from the same species Darwin studied, in fact). We've SEEN it. How much more proof do you need?
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 hmmmm you fail to grasp the words you speak.
evoloution and the theory of evoloution are two seperate things.
you fail to grasp that simple fact which meens you are either brain dead or just dumb.
what proof are you talking about ??
you have NOT PROVEN the big bang or the theory of evoloution.
YOU CAN'T EVEN GRASP THE MEANING.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone Did you fail to see the post with links to the evidence, dumbass?
And I don't understand how YOU can claim that a person can accept evolution and not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution can be summed up as "evolution happens." Are you that retarded?
It also follows logically (though I realize you have no concept of the meaning of "logic") that if we WITNESS EVOLUTION, EVOLUTION HAPPENS, AND THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS TRUE.
Wow you're an idiot.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 wow still you fail the basic skill of understanding.
so you came from an ape ??
the theory of evoloution is a two hundred year old unproven suggestion about the origin of our species.
evoloution is the slight changes and adaptions life makes to survive.......
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone WRONG.
The theory of evolution is about the origin of the DIVERSITY of species. You'd know this if you took your head out of your ass. It doesn't just talk about humans, it talks about EVERY ANIMAL ON EARTH.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@weadone Oh, and we HAVE proven that humans evolved, too. You'd see the evidence if you bothered to watch the Ken Miller link. What's the point of asking for evidence if you're not going to look at it?
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 oh wow are you for real......what did we evolve from ???the origins of the diversity of species.....ha ha ha dude wtf how about its easier to believe the bible than that.
it is fuck all to do with it.and now telling me it is about the diversity of all life on earth?reread the fuking title dweeb the theory of evoloution is a two hundred year old unproven suggestion about the origin of our species.
evoloution is the slight changes and adaptions life makes to survive.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone Do you mean Darwin's "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection"? It's the ORIGIN OF SPECIES, not ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES, not ORIGIN OF THE HUMAN SPECIES, just ORIGIN OF SPECIES. And it's extended title talks about natural selection, which is the explanation of how life got so diverse! Are you fucking retarded?
By the way, the theory of evolution was made before Darwin. He proposed the mechanism by which it worked, which we've proven with genetics and other sciences.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@weadone The simple matter is you won't accept proof. You won't change your mind because you don't want to. Evolution is one of the best supported theories in science, even more supported than the theory of gravity. Evolution has made numerous testable predictions and has always been found to be correct. It stands unchallenged by evidence. The fossil record shows it, the DNA evidence shows it, geology shows it, and most importantly, we've seen it in real-time. How anyone can deny it boggles me.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 i would be more than happy to say i was wrong, if you can PROOVE IT.
but be honest YOU CAN'T . oh now gravity is a theory is it??????? ha ha ha ha ha......
before you make any more crazy claims how can you say the fossil record shows it ??
paleantoligists can't even agree the fossil records are correct and in the right order.
even ken admits that shit.
how any sane person can take a THEORY and claim it is PROVEN FACT astounds me.
your not sane......
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone It's called "Newton's Theory of Universal Gravitation." Science has a different meaning for the word "theory" than the one you insist on using.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 when newton wrote the paper what was known about gravity.
so newton carried out some apple falling experiments and wrote down his theory on what happened.
so he then presented his papers his "theory" on gravity.
his theory was bang on and worldly accepted.
so it moved from being his theory to factual. try it drop an apple.
so you are comparing newtons proven theory paper entitled "theory of..."
to darwins" theory of evoloution" an unproven paper.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone Holy crap you must be trolling. For the thousandth time. . .A "THEORY" IN SCIENCE DOES NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES. THEORIES DON'T GO FROM "THEORY" TO "FACT," NOR DOES IT GO FROM "THEORY" TO "LAW." THEY ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES. A THEORY CAN NEVER BE A LAW, IT'S THE HIGHEST IT CAN GO.
Damn you're ignorant.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@weadone Oh, and by the way. . . .
Evolution happens. It's a known fact. Darwin's theory is NOT "evolution happens." Darwin proposed HOW evolution happens.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 he he he why are you saying this ? it sort of tells you that in the books title.
as i say it takes as much faith to believe in the scientific reasons about life as it does the religous versions.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone "he he he why are you saying this ? it sort of tells you that in the books title." -- Because you seem to be too simple to understand the easiest concepts. . .such as what a scientific theory is.
"as i say it takes as much faith to believe in the scientific reasons about life as it does the religous versions." -- No, it takes much, much less, because we have something called E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E. There were ways to test the concept...and it was shown to be true. As I said, we've SEEN it.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 what evidence do you have that darwin was CORRECT.on his theory.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone Why do you keep asking, even after I give you evidence? What's wrong with you?
We've seen it in flies, birds, fish, plants, and bacteria. We have body parts that serve no function (such as a tail bone...and we also have the rare person born with that tail). We have our genetic code containing a fused chromosomal pair, discovered only because it was predicted by evolution. We have geological layers showing no overlap between types of animal found (i.e. no humans with dinosaurs). TBC
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@weadone (Continued.) We have fossils showing it (such as tiktaalik). What's better, the fossil and genetic evolutionary maps independently agree with each other. Body parts hidden in the skulls of the transitional fossils (a phrase which I don't like to use, because everything is transitional) were found as evolution predicted. Body parts that some have claimed to be "irreducibly complex" have been widely disproven. We use it to success in medical fields. What do YOU have? A book?
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 the fossil map can't be acurately dated. ie, saying it roamed the earth 60-65 million years ago is not an accurate dateing systeme .
and as for your genetic map well lets not start with the flaws in that.
as i have repeatedly said .
you need to believe in unproven theory's to believe in that.
remember the world were told the sun went round us, the earth was flat.......
one day we will maybe find out the whole story but i doubt it.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone "the fossil map can't be acurately dated. ie, saying it roamed the earth 60-65 million years ago is not an accurate dateing systeme ." -- Yes it is. It's not perfectly exact, but science never is, and not having an exact date nailed down doesn't make the dating any less correct.
"and as for your genetic map well lets not start with the flaws in that." -- Because you can't name any. And would anyone take your word over someone who actually STUDIES this for a living?
MagicActor1987 10 months ago
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@MagicActor1987 "the fossil map can't be acurately dated. ie, saying it roamed the earth 60-65 million years ago is not an accurate dateing systeme" -- Further, this is like saying that people studying the length of flashlights finds one to be between 10-12 inches, but since it's not exact, you find it more likely to be 0.000001 inches because you read something on someone's facebook wall to that effect.
MagicActor1987 10 months ago
@weadone "the world were told the sun went round us" -- And when science found otherwise, the religious went up in arms and tried to stop that knowledge from getting out. Sound familiar?
"the earth was flat" -- Actually, it was the NON-SCIENTISTS who said this. Those familiar with science knew the world was spherical since the Ancient Greeks.
MagicActor1987 10 months ago
@MagicActor1987 i would be more than happy to say i was wrong, if you can PROOVE IT.
but be honest YOU CAN'T . oh now gravity is a theory is it??????? ha ha ha ha ha......
before you make any more crazy claims how can you say the fossil record shows it ??
paleantoligists can't even agree the fossil records are correct and in the right order.
even ken admits that shit.
how any sane person can take a THEORY and claim it is PROVEN FACT astounds me.
your not sane......
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone "oh now gravity is a theory is it?" -- YES! SCIENTIFIC TERMS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS THAN HOW YOUR RETARDED ASS KEEPS USING THEM.
"how any sane person can take a THEORY and claim it is PROVEN FACT astounds me." -- Look up the fucking word "theory" in science, then come back here and maybe you'll say less stupid shit.
The parts of the record that may not be in the right order are the ones where the fossils are similar! Things like TIKTAALIK are the proof! How can you be so ignorant?
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
@MagicActor1987 watched it dude theory and study and investigate used a lot still no fucking proof.
why won't you admit that to believe in the theory of evoloution,or the big bang start to it all is like believing in the bibles version. you need faith to fill in the blanks and their are lots of them.
weadone 11 months ago
@weadone What the fuck do you consider proof then? The fact that predictions about fused chromosomes could be made by evolution (when there's NO REASON to have made that prediction otherwise) isn't proof? Witnessing evolution in bacteria, plants, and birds isn't proof? The fact that we were able to find the specific species we were looking for by using evolution to map out which layers of earth to search isn't proof?
What the fuck is proof to you? You MUST be mentally challenged.
MagicActor1987 11 months ago
theists thinking they can think = fail
NefariousVirtuoso88 1 year ago
ask your god for a new camera.
wnfcjkenvfj 1 year ago
If your holy book made scientific discoveries hundreds of years ago, why didn't your people use that knowledge to further your civilization back then? Why did you discredit this information centuries ago only to say "We thought of it first" like kids in grade school? I have heard the arguments that Islam was the first to know the earth was round, that space travel was possible, the concept of the atom bomb...but they never seem to be able to apply this knowledge.
Strange...
AmosTheTalented 1 year ago 2
for a simple reason; there was no advanced technology that might allow people to investegate those signs.
MuslimView 1 year ago
@AmosTheTalented actaully muslims in the "dark ages" , we call it golden ages, many scientific discoveries were found. examples: algebra, trigonometry, medical achievements (and surgical instruments), algorithms, first windmill, first parachute, first pinhole camera, and more...
samett69xxx 6 months ago
Sagan put it best when he said (paraphrased) If we assume the universe had to have a creator, then we must ask the next question, "Who created the creator?" "If we can believe god always existed, why not skip a step and believe the universe always existed?"
Say I accepted all of your logic, which I don't, and said "Yes, the universe needed a creator.", why must that creator be a "supreme being" or "deity", and not some other unknown phenomenon?
Where is your proof that Allah is that creator?
melzaren 1 year ago
I just wish people weren't so ignorant for certain things. Seriously, why can't we just let someone believe what ever they want to believe. we can't decide everyone's mind for them. just the only thing I ask is to leave me out of it. Oh, you believe in Allah? I believe that I don't really give a shit, and I just wanna go back to worrying about important things. Like, family problems, a bullet to the head, etc. Oh yeah, allah durka durka durka. hahahaha sorry, I had to...
midgetalex28 1 year ago
derka derka muhammed jihad
urethane22 1 year ago 2
I WILL DISEPROVE DEM ATHEIST BAI BLOWING THEM UP!!!!, SINFUL INFIDELS!!!
Deliwio 1 year ago
hey, did you fly a plance into WTC?
ch1ppR 1 year ago
This guy speaks better english than I do.
AAABeatbox 1 year ago
Where do we get these smug, self-satisfied morons from? They listen to a zombie mullah, they think they now know all the answers, they come on here and preach like they've some god given right to browbeat everyone into submission... and after they fail miserably they keep going? Take a hint kid: your fairy tales are nonsense to anyone with an enlightened mind. If you want to waste your life on religious Nonsense, go ahead. But the rest of us will be good and happy without it thanks very much
Drweavil 1 year ago
Epic fail, just like Sami you're so blinded by your own "brilliance" you can't see the fact that you're a fool.
Drweavil 1 year ago
False dichotomy and God of the gaps.
Leehofooks 1 year ago
I love how theists use the either this or that dichotomy. Its either god or nothing.
MrConsarnit 1 year ago
@MrConsarnit yep. you can either go up or down? oh actually, you can go forward and back too. fact is, no-one knows how or when the universe started or if it has always been here. some people cannot deal with not knowing so they create religion to explain t, this is a natural result of evolution into an intelligent mind that is able to ask itself "where do I come from"? as far as we know, nothing before humanity has ever asked that question.
blueray1969 1 year ago
lol, u can't disprove atheism. it's not a claim. it's a rejection of a theists claim that god exists. it's really not that complicated.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
Honestly, I can respect you because I have a muslim friend and believe people should have the freedom to choose their beliefs/ non beliefs, but just hear me out. This video doesn't disprove atheism, but simply put words in our mouth and make fun of them. you don't know enough about science or logic as a whole to put up an argument like this, because if you did, you'd see the flaws in your argument. you said stuff can't come from nothing, where did your god come from? also, burden shifting. :)
hypernerd9000 1 year ago
as soon as spotted the well-refuted first cause nonsense i saw there was nothing to this argument it is just a god of the gaps
pete975 1 year ago
Disproving atheism = Disproving the "non belief" of people who have based their knowledge on the evidence presented by those who "beleive", and considered it not sufficient enough to base any conclusions on. So basically your video is about disproving the action of critical thought and you have the nerve to consider that scientific?
123backinyerface 1 year ago
Ah the Big Bang Theory, does your quran explain why anti matter is totally non existant within our universe. Your quran talks about the Big Bang it should mention why matter dominates the universe, even though equal amounts of matter and antimatter were formed. And you should know why this is an interesting question since you know so much about the Big Bang. This is what people call being intellectualy lazy
slicingwater 1 year ago
Theists beleive there was no beggining aswell. They claim god has always existed. Is it far more likely that a mythical being has existed forever as opposed to energy and matter?
TpendragonT 1 year ago
So since most parts of the holy books Quaran/Bible can be disproven, god believers must try arguments for deism. The difference between being deist and atheist is negligible. One believes that some being created the universe, and the other says there is some unknown reason as to why the universe is the way it is.
pmk422 1 year ago
What caused our universe?
nice question.
Answer is easy!
Most likely a Quantenevent.
Thanks 4 asking. Next question please!
AnnOnuem75 1 year ago
First, you just failed thermodynamics, you present a silly caricature of the second law, this makes you sound like a clown. Like, you're going to teach physicists physics (LOL). Second, please show me your Hydrogen data and calculations, or are you just making things up?
Why, do you think you can use fake science to disprove science?
Are you trying to be a clown?
kilroy1964 1 year ago
And what logic is that how something came from nothing and created something? You contradict your own sayings "nothing will never become something out of nothing" with your logic we shouldn't exist at all, nothing shouldn't exist. You do understand that God or Allah (or whatever) have to be extremely complicated of his own in order to create such complex Universe, then who created him, someone so complex couldn't just popped in to existence and it's not logical to think that he always existed
eduncho 1 year ago
All religious scriptures (including the koran) were written by mortal men, and are as such, no more than comforts for fools.
There is no fool greater than he who, by associating himself with a mythical 'god', thinks himself superior to others.
Athiesm surpasses and outranks your ridiculous fantasies, and your delusions are comparable only to dreams and nightmares.
Wake up muslims - death approaches all too rapidly, and you must ready yourselves for the reality to come!
Islam is a F-ALLAH-CY!
throbule 1 year ago
Hey retard, why are you asking Atheists these questions? Why don't you ask Scientists, or better yet investigate the big bang theory yourself? You're a scientifically illiterate moron. Here's a question for you. If Allah created the universe then who or what created Allah? If you were born in North America you'd be a Christian Apologist instead of a Muslim one. Dumb-Da-Dumb-Dumb. Allah did not always exist. Intelligent people refute his very existence, just like all imaginary Gods.
bigboy45454545 1 year ago 26
What do you want with the question "How can something be created out of nothing"? You will get the answer when you can explain where God came from. Who created God? How can you explain that God has always existed? How can you explain all the information that God possesses when information can't come from nothing? How can God create something out of nothing?
You don't have a clue. At least others are searching for the answers.
Siddis33 1 year ago
Most cosmologists believe in a singularity, i.e. a point of zero size at time 'zero'. In quantum theory something can come from nothing. Particles can pop in to and out of existence, i.e. there doesn't need to be a creator.
If you had been born in to a Hindu family you would be a Hindu and not a Muslim.
mikeyo1234 1 year ago
Kill the muslim before it blows itself up and you with it! KILL IT!
mecher3k 1 year ago
for me its so obvious religions are nothing but inventions
Old story "God says the earth is flat"
Modern story "oh....hum..well...God has reviewed his plan afterall the earth is a round"
Nothing works haha just thinking about this little thing makes me smile when im walking in the street
BlahArmy 1 year ago
Atheism... blind faith? Atheism is the LACK OF blind faith.
Atheism means the following. "I do not believe if a god"
THAT IS ALL IT MEANS.
Also, you cannot assume atheists have a default position on certain issues.
SirBlackAcid 1 year ago
A story of some Muslims trying to convince other Muslims about what is the 'true' Islam.
""Pakistani Sufi sites have frequently been the target of Islamist militant groups, whose hardline interpretations of the religion leave no room for the more mystical Sufi practices that are common in this Sunni Muslim-majority nation of 175 million. Earlier this year in the eastern city of Lahore, nearly 50 people were killed in a similar attack at another major Sufi shrine.""
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
Evolution is a done deal. When the genome was decoded, that was the final nail in the coffin. Evolution is a fact as established by many disciplines, by many people who dedicated their lives to observe facts and derive conclusions about reality. Not imaginary myths conjured up by superstitious people of 2000 years ago. You're assumption of what atheism is, is incorrect. It's a rejection of stories told without evidence. God is not perceptibly self-evident and that's a lot like not existing
riaamaan 1 year ago
So how was god, which is something, come into existence, FROM NOTHING??? I love this video because it's like the "Creationists Greatest Hits" album. And of course "...second law of thermodynamics.." Really? What are the other laws? I bet you had or still have no idea whatsoever what the others are when you first used this argument. Besides, it applies to closed systems, the universe is NOT one.
OnionsMakeYouCry9 1 year ago
To me any religion, Islam or Christianity is all a bunch of myths nothing more or less. Not any more real than the cosmic pink unicorn.
HelloMidnightChaos 1 year ago
in quantom mechanics nothing is something because if you take a peice of nothing in space and remove all atoms and particles you will find there are millions of other particles popping in and out of existance.
mando91614 1 year ago
You start out by using the term "idiots", and go on to use this term several times throughout your video. Now, being a man of intelligence and if I disagree with your opinion, I suppose that makes me an "idiot". Perhaps you know it all. But regardless, you have a terrible way of getting your point across. Just my observation
JamesSCameron 1 year ago
@JamesSCameron - he is saying "atheists". His basic fault is using the Quran as proof of his arguments. The Quran, like the Bible, is a man made book filled with goobledygoogk ,meant to bamboozle us.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
@gulsbyjag LOL. Oh my god, you're right. I'm so sorry.. it sounded just like "idiots'. That's the drawback of being an English-speaking person of purely Scottish and English heritage, I suppose. I feel so stupid now... (<--hides under a rock)
JamesSCameron 1 year ago
@JamesSCameron - LOL. I've been debating MuslimViews positions for a couple of years. He has a well developed 'brainwashed' view of the world as promoted by Muslim apologetics. As an atheist, I've come to view the very idea of a 'loving', 'powerful', 'compassionate' 'god' to be silly in view of 'his' creating a devil and a hell to take care of all of us who don't believe in 'him/her/it'. LOL.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
@gulsbyjag I tend to agree. What I fail to understand is why a loving God could possibly do what he has to his children, condemn a soul merely for not their "worship"; it all gets a bit selfish to me. I highly believe that most religions (Muslims, Christians, etc) actually "enhance" bigotry and prejudice among their believers. I've got my beliefs, I'm sure you have yours, and Muslim has his.. what is the point of trying to "convince" anybody? It's all somewhat childish. My opinion.
JamesSCameron 1 year ago
@gulsbyjag Bottom line, nobody really knows for sure.. and those who claim they DO know for sure, have closed their minds so tightly, that nothing is going to open it except their own experience. I feel that I know for certaint (in my own mind) that we do have souls. I say this because I've had what I feel is proof. I'm not about to try and push my thoughts on another human being, though. To me, that's just absurd. Even if Muslimviews has it right, I think even HIS God will forgive me.
JamesSCameron 1 year ago
@JamesSCameron - thanks for your input. I get people saying "Why don't you just live and let live?" Well, when the religious fundamentalists continue to try to write their beliefs into our laws, I'll continue to speak out.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
@gulsbyjag Hmm.. Furthermore, another huge problem with these religions that are based upon "a written word", is interpretation. Believers tend to believe what they want to believe and what means one thing to one can be stretched the entire opposite direction. If I was God, I'd make sure there was no misunderstanding, and I'd not have MAN write my word for me. Plus, I'd update it on a semi-regular basis AT LEAST. Lol. With the Quran and Bible both, he's sure left a lot of gray areas, no?
JamesSCameron 1 year ago
@JamesSCameron Heck, Jim Jones managed to take God's loving word of the Bible and get these nearly a thousand followers at the time to partake in a mass suicide! How twisted is that!?
JamesSCameron 1 year ago
@JamesSCameron - I agree with your points. It's also true that society progresses and our definitions and understandings change. We have a great constitution that was interpreted to allow slavery, the denial of the right of women to vote, etc. We have to update our rules from time to time. We don't stone people to death for gathering wood on the sabbath as 'god' ordered in Numbers and we don't burn people at the stake for heresy as was done by catholics and protestants 400 years ago.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
Can theists contribute to our understanding of nature with something more intelligent than the gods did it, it might have been a revolution in thinking for the caveman but for the 21st century man it is plain stupid; how does it help in our quest for knowledge? Your knowledge of science must be very superficial at best if you refer to that load of crap in the Quran as science facts, after all this is the same credible source that recommends wife beating, polygamy and doesn’t forbid slavery.
GODandPEACE 1 year ago
Muslims are one of the dumbest groups of people in the world. Don't try to sound smart by misinterpreting information done by people that have no relation to your religion.
BlitzThrash 1 year ago
"Disproving" Atheism ??????
Next what? Disproving people that like Ice-creams, disproving who dress in yellow, disproving who sleeps 'till 10.00
Is Islam being so stupid or just the author of this nonsense?
ChristianIce 1 year ago
Atheism is not based on blind-faith - atheism follows the evidence wherever it leads, it just so happens that the evidence has not yet lead to the indication of a supernatural wizard living in the sky.
MeBeMat 1 year ago
The golden teapot, pours shunshine tea into the SUN! it's invisible so cant be seen, I know it's there, i read about it in a really really old book, it was so old, it just has to be true, and on it there is an inscription, invisiblke so it cant be read, but that says on it. 'There is no God, ONLY SUNSHINE TEA'
TheeBaker 1 year ago
show me proof that I am wrong and I will join you with your God, You do follow Zeus dont you?
TheeBaker 1 year ago
which proof are you looking for more than your self? =)
MuslimView 1 year ago
sir, u are brainwashed. there is no god. i would argue but im tired of shit theist arguements. and im sure many atheists are. if u would like to argue, plz msg me and i will at a later time, when this anger escapes me.
GCmaster5000 1 year ago
@GCmaster5000 the thing is, when some ones main argument is "yer but there's no proof God doesnt exist" you are already on a losing streak! the next best argument is the, I dont know how the universe got here, God must have done it"
the argument that's there's no proof 'something doesnt exist' is beyond amazment, anything that does not exist, has 0% proof THAT it doesnt exist, so that argument is void, but these ppl cannot see how stupid that argument is.
TheeBaker 1 year ago
I'm looking for a god that didn't make so many mistakes (fallen angel, man made in his image goes bad and gets kicked out of eden, Israelites behaving so badly that he has to send 10 commandments, destruction of Sodom and Ghomorra, Noah and the destruction of the earth by flood) and worst of all, building a big fire pit in which to burn me and the majority of human beings (that he created in his image [do we look like him, have his power, act like hoim?]). Such a joke!
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
God is the only one who doesn't make mistakes, except him everyone makes mistakes and everyone is too limited to understand the basics of this life ..
what you call destruction, flood, earthquake ...etc shows us how would the situation be if there was no intelligent mind beyond the universe, the question that we should ask is: why is this life continue to survive?why isn't there a big flood that will kill all people or an earthquake that will end the life on earth? why are people still alive?
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView Nice to see that you are still alive, my friend.
So, we have an intelligent mind in charge that is almost able to keep us from all being drowned in a tsunami or killed in an earthquake.
That makes my point that he/she/it falls short of being an all powerful god.
How about a god that is able to cure all of us and keep us safe from such 'natural' disasters.
There isn't one.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
thank you friend .. Alhamdulillah .. i'm still alive with the grace of Allah :)
If there was no evil in this world there would be no need of God ..
if we died in an earthquake or a flood .. we will return to Allah .. this life is just bridge to the eternal life ..
Allah is just .. and everyone who suffered in this life will be rewarded in the afterlife ..
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView: So god created evil because we would not need him if there was no evil. Well thanks for looking out for me, uh, for yourself, god.
So if a Muslim, a Hindu and an atheist die in an earthquake, they will go to paradise?
So if a Muslim, a Hindu and an atheist suffer in this life from god's created evil, they will be rewarded in the afterlife?
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
As i said before our mind is too limited to understand the basics of this life .. our interpretations will be just in the limited level of our intelligence ..
the existence of evil confirms with the existence of God .. evil was created by God to test us in this life .. in the end all of us will return to him .. God will reward us for the sufferings we suffered and for the evil he created for us .. that's why he told us in Quran we should be patient in this life ..
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView - .
Let's pretend that you are god and are just creating the world.
Would you create a hell for those who just don't believe in you?
Would you send me to hell to burn for eternity because I don't believe in you?
For me, I look around and I see a world that acts like there is no one up there doing anything. If I get sick, I live or die by the hands of doctors and the actions my body and of other living creatures (bacteria, etc.).
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
first of all i can't pretend to be God since i don't know how God is .. and so i can't say anything on behalf him ..
second .. The question you should ask is: what did God ask me to do and not to do?
God asked you and me to believe in him while we are convinced .. because through our belief in him we avoid evil and be near from goodness ..
so.. why would we choose the opposite way that will make us live in hell here in this life before the afterlife?
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView I do not see enough evidence to believe in ANY god. No proof that a god does anything in the world today. No proof of an 'afterlife'. Just many confused 'holy' books ands a LOT of religious people saying that other religious people are WRONG. If there is a god, maybe someday science will describe him/her/it in terms that most of us can agree on.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
there are unlimited proofs of the existence of God .. either logical or scientific .. but Atheists prefer to doubt than reason ..
whenever i ask Atheists why is there a design in the universe .. some of them say there is no design .. and others say nature designed it .. while the more intelligent of them say we don't know ..
design = there must be a designer ..
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView - Please list one scientific proof of the existence of god (and which god would that be)?
And "design = there must be a designer". Lung cancer, who is the designer?
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
well, here are two scientific proofs of the existence of God:
1) the first cause: it must be self-existent, unlike matter/energy
2) the golden ratio: there must be intelligent mind that created the creation in such organized ratio. this ratio could be noticed in all creation including human bodies, plates,...etc
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView - Is there a science book that explains these proofs?
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
@MuslimView You need to define what constitutes as "designed." Also, you need to address the fact that we have only experienced "design" in our own universe. You cannot logically conclude that our universe is designed without proving that other universes, which have yet to be proven as existing in the first place, are also designed. Also, simply saying that proof exists does not give us the proof. You need to provide evidence to support your claims.
AndroBubbles 1 year ago
If something happens billions of times similarly, accurately, with no difference, how would you define it? design or chance?
As we know chance is something that happens randomly, and it doesn't give the same results EVERYTIME. If there is similar, organized, coordinated results, there must be an intelligent mind that organized them.
MuslimView 1 year ago
@MuslimView No, that's a non sequitur that you're using as a scapegoat to excuse your unfounded argument. Snowflakes are perfectly symmetrical shapes are a naturally occurring phenomenon, as are many other things in the world/universe. Until you can prove to me that the undiscovered multiverse is also designed, you cannot logically conclude that our universe is designed, since we know from *experience* whether things are designed or not.
AndroBubbles 1 year ago
@MuslimView Also, your theory leaves out things that from our experience appear to be free of intelligent design, while your argument seeks to point out that the entire universe is designed. If everything in the universe is designed, then everything in the universe should be able to be immediately identified as such from our experience. You lack empiric evidence that proves any sort of supernatural deity/higher power. Your opinion on what counts as designed is not good enough to be "proof."
AndroBubbles 1 year ago
@MuslimView - If 'design' gets it right EVERYTIME, why so many spontaneous mis-carriages? Why so many birth defects? Why so many diseases, earthquakes, etc.?
gulsbyjag 1 year ago
@MuslimView "Why is there design in the universe?" Is a silly question posed to support your silly notion. Don't you see that? A better question is "Why is there order in the universe?"
RB1US 1 year ago
@MuslimView "Why is there design in the universe?" Is a silly question that is designed to support your silly fairy tale. Let's try it again, shall we?
"Why is there order in the Universe?"
Order = there must be order.
Now aren't you ashamed of your silliness?
RB1US 1 year ago
@MuslimView you are using circular reasoning. By even using the word design you are assuming a designer. You are saying that there is design, so there is a designer. That is not proof, it is a redunadnt definition, and a meaningless argument.
farizzal 1 year ago
@MuslimView You say believing will save you from evil... how about every believer that has been killed or raped o robbed... explain that
capyxx04 1 year ago
"God is the only one who doesn't make mistakes"
what about the foreskin? what about the mistakeof leaving the tree of knowledge unguarded. if you are clothed, or using knowlege gained from the tree, ie cars/computers etc you are a sinner! Eden had no toilets!
You sir are a moron, we evolved from a line of apes that were biped's like us, Australopithecus afarensis, the reason there are non, you utter muppet, is because they evolved into us.
Adam and Eve only had sons, were did the other humans
TheeBaker 1 year ago
the next thing to happen, this muslim wont answer any of our questions, and will ignore, and then repeat the same nonsense to others, if they pose any of the same questions as us, again they willbe ignored and the next batch will be treated the same, the next step is to post bible quotes to questions that cant be answered. this is the way of the God fearing morons!
TheeBaker 1 year ago
If you dont know how somehting works, do you always make up a fantatistical and unprovable theory, god is only a theory and nothing what so ever more, Like GOD DID IT? do you understand genetics in any way at all, like the genetic make up of humans or how many different genetic codes it takes to have a non inbred working code? do you beleive every thing in the bible as truth, even tho 100% impossible, ie, noah and his ark, 2 of evey creature on the planet wud take a ship the size of the UK?
TheeBaker 1 year ago
We are all born atheists and are brainwashed into the religion of our parents/community/country. I've 'reverted' to atheism.
gulsbyjag 1 year ago 34
DIRTY MUSLIM YOU SUCK DICK
mainvideos2009 1 year ago
Definition of faith: the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. Atheists do not have a confident belief in any truth, we believe because we have testable proof of what we believe as true. Religion is the belief in faith because u have the confident belief without testable proof. Therefore, atheists have the lack of belief, the lack of faith. U r using the usual argument of nothing came from nothing which is not the belief atheists hold.
xZimmax 1 year ago