Even if he made some error, he was human, and is infallible...realise that fact!! He is probably in paradise, and u are still in the race... Hence I advise u mind ur speeches for u shall give account of it all. Our negative criticisms of ourselves is the thing exposing the body of Christ to more attacks from the enemy... Please go and search the scriptures!!! As a matter of fact, this pastor criticising has not ministered here...something is wrong somewhere. May God help d church!
@inheritthepromises: Dear brother, I pity your ignorance. Listen to me, I'm not here to say he is true or false, but I'm here to tell u never to judge anyone, not even an annointed of God. Hagin had the anointing, and (I stand to be corrected) his life and teachings has won and is still winning many to Christ more than his critics!
Jesus was born of a virgin the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD & the son of man! (Remember that HE called Himself the son of man). Being Himself without sin, He bore OUR sins on that cross and LOST His RIGHT STANDING with The Father, both as His Son & as a son of man. When Jesus was raised to life, He became the FIRST born (BEGOTTEN) of the dead because He IS the sinless Son of God. He was born again in RIGHT STANDING with God, being His Son, for man's justification! This is what Kenneth Hagin meant!
shame on all of you for coming to the defense of this heretic, what he teaches is that the 'believer' has all the authority (ala his book "The Believer's Authority) the believer has all the authority, the believer is on the throne and Jesus is perpetually on the cross for our convenience, for our greed, for our wants and needs, when in fact we are to have The Lord Jesus on the throne of our life and perpetually put ourselves on the cross for His service
well jesus became sin...death is separation from God-- he died and went to hell..preached to the spirits in prison..rose from the dead...he was reborn from the dead-with a new body - glorified one..not the one that was on the cross....aint that right?..--this guy really could spend his time better--i dont get it
@Fleasfleas2 The Reformation is wrong and Hagin was right!
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence. Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Jesus was born of Virgin but only begotten of God of the dead!
Not everyone who has a 'Christian' book for sale is a real Christian. The pew sitters of America don't discern and recognise the wolves in sheep's clothing:-(
When did God tell anybody to preach criticism about another person? Why not PREACH THE GOSPEL, instead of talking about people and making DVD's on people???!!!!!!
@chabod66 The apostle Paul warned everyday about false teachers.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in he latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1Tomothy 4:1,2
Now therefore, what have I here, saith Yähwè יָהוֶה, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule y over them make them to howl, saith Yähwè יָהוֶה; and my name continually every day [is] blasphemed. Isa 52:5
Listen carefully to what this man says: start at :35 'but not so according to kenneth hagin." WHO is kenneth hagin". Certainly NOT MY Holy Spirit. The Bible is MY AUTHORITY. NOT this mere mortal filled with sin as we all are. Good gosh man, God IS God. He does NOT have to go through the refiners fire.... Jesus has ALWAYS been the begotten Son of the ONE true Living God! Someday YOU will stand before the Lord and HE will deny you! You are leading people astray! GOD HELP YOU!
I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes when we stand before God when asks you about attacking God’s anointed, if we don’t like what is happening don’t speak out in judging manner. I’m positive God can take care of his business.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
@MrPilcher1 Nobody's attacking God's anointed. Kenneth Hagin was an imposter - not a man of God. That's the whole point of the video - he twisted the scriptures & sold lying books!
If we were not to judge, then we'd be allowing our children to cross the road while cars were coming, & sharing our most important secrets with the local gossips etc. !
Of course we're to judge what is right & wrong & it’s a matter of utmost importance to warn Christians who are being taken in by charlatans...
@Latino1949 Have you ever read Acts 20:31? People who follow this carnival approach do so for entertainment.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Timothy 4:3,4
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
@jeremy197624 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
DOOM IS BEFALLING THE evil shepherds of no mercy cruel beasts that take peoples last penny they are digging the level of hell they will reside in, they did this.
Hagin like so many are sold out to the devil and one of his most prized weapons like many other prophets of baal which I rebuke and cast away their evil and tormenting work in YAHUSHUA'S/JESUS' NAME, THE BAPTIZER OF THE PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT, not the a fake for these liars serve a dark jesus.
ABBA YAH INSTEAD I PRAY HOLY ANOINTING POWER ON ALL THE Redeemed AS YOU WILL IT IN YAHUSHUA'S/JESUS' NAME
@togowack For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
@togowack They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 1John 4:5,6
it took me all of thirty seconds to discern this man is decieved. It is so easy to recognise truth, and this man is the man who says frangipane is also false. I can tell you now that his manner, his critical spirit is clearly not the Holy Spirit.
Who the heck are you, don't you have anything better to do than to call another man a heretic. If you truly knew the teachings of Ken Hagin SR you would realize he taught being born again, faith in God, and Sickness and Disease and all the powers of hell have no reign over you. I know there is a lot heresy out there, Hagin was not one of them. Stop trying to correct everyone else, get back in the prayer closet and go out and do the work of Jesus.
@SelflessEmpire For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
@BereanBeacon1 The phrase "born again" is central to the witchcraft of Christianity. It is very similar to the occult spells cast upon innocent people by the witches of Judaism & Islam, the 2 sister cults of Christianity.
They reference evil tomes such as the Bible & Koran in order to communicate with demons like Jehovah/Allah, foul beast from the bowels of hell. They seek to serve those with political power and great wealth while casting witches spells on their congregations to keep them down.
@TheColonelKlink - this is clearly wicked talk, to accuse Jehovah of being such is wickedness beyond my comprehension, and to accuse Christianity of being witchcraft is just ridiculous. Lucifer was the fallen angel, and he couldn't even get past Michael. He was no greater than the other angels, and God created them all. What a load of alarming claptrap from someone who knows nothing, or has a very dark motive. I guess only you and God know the truth on that one.
1 of many examples; Christians teach that an alleged 1st century rabbi was executed for sedition by the Roman authorities. His corpse lays rotting in a tomb for a few days then he "magically" comes back to life. After going on a little stroll, handing out last minute tips & instructions to his followers he then flies up in the sky. Through incantations (prayer) & ritual Christians seek his intercession on their behalf from the realm of the dead. Witchcraft.
The Lord will strengthen you and me. I have been in an experiment and I need more help to get stable again. Prayer for me every day and night. Just for a couple of minutes here and there. I really need your help. Prayer the known written Word of God over my life as if you would pray for yourself. Don't forget to thank Him as well. Paul
There is no mention of HOLINESS in this gospel that is being preached..without it no man can see GOD. Why don't preachers spend tv time on this message? Most of the congregation would get up and leave. The WOG is a two edged SWORD. It PIERCES THE HEART. IT DIVIDES BETWEEN SOUL AND SPIRIT. It's painful. It can cut you right to the quick and pull out anything that is not like Christ. It will break you or harden you. This mind over matter gospel is not the truth. it's catholicism.
people don't you realize that every preacher now looks like a miniature kenneth hagin and not like Christ? There teachings are psychology. There's no cross in their message. They are promising you FREEDOM but they themselves are bound. Satan deceives people..he entertwines the truth with a lie. When I stand on the day of judgment, Jesus is not going to ask me "who do MEN say that I am?" He is going to ask me "WHO DO YOU SAY THAT I AM"? We better know him and not some doctrine.
I think you have better things to do than criticize other ministers. If it wasn't for the "heresy" of BROTHER Kenneth Hagin I'd still be stuck in the UPC but thank God I've been gone from there since 1999 and it was because of Kenneth Hagin's teaching that I got my eyes opened. As far as I'm concerned Kenneth Hagin was one of the greatest men of God of this age and you would do well to listen to some of his messages. Throw out the stubble and eat the hay.
@johnnynocaster For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
you should worry about yourself. i can feel that you do not have God's spirit. Kenneth, though, was a lovely man. are you jealous. why don't you help the world instead of wasting your time being critical of a godly man?
It is always interesting that everybody in other Religeous groups. First of all no one knows who you are.
Instead of having faith and praying for them if you think they are wrong, I guess you haven't read that in the Bible, or you don't have any faith. If you believe pray and God is able to change them, why don't you try that not not sin against God on a worldwide youtube where everyone can watch or read it. Get a real Job and consider yourself fired from your position as a sharp shooter.
@Latino1949 Have you ever read Acts 20:31? People who follow this carnival approach do so for entertainment.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Timothy 4:3,4
Oh foolish man! Who has bewitched you? (Gal. 3:1) The Bible truth that Dr. Hagin was trying to show was that being born again is of the heart and not religious action. He wasn't truly born again until he made Jesus the Lord in his heart. Also, when Jesus took our sin on the cross and died the sinner's death, he experienced SPIRITUAL DEATH. So when God by His Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, He was given new spiritual life. Rom. 8:11 fully explains Dr. Hagins experience.
STOP MAJORING ON THE MINORS, HAGIN TEACHES THAT YOU HAVE TO BORN AGAIN...... WICH IS THE TRUTH..... YOU WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY IDLE WORD SPOKEN AGAINST THE BRETHREN... REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
I've lived long enough to know that I never did, don't now, and will not As long as I live in this body know ALL things as some of the heresy hunters of our day. Wouldn't the effort of edifying the Body of Christ be best served doing good as Jesus did rather than combating what one day may prove to be TRUTH? Blessings upon the Lord's Church!
The World looks on in wonder, as we cannibalize the church and crucify each other. Amazing... now that is an effective way to reach a lost World. Post a YouTube video full of verbal non-sense and accusations (true or not) - then feel justified that you have done some great and spiritual thing.
@mdgoll The really amazing thing is the dumb sheep that follow this false teachers and come under this verse:
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
@simplysteffy You shouldn't trust your feelings and stay in your Bible. Paul warned everyone night and day about people like Hagan. They survive by fleecing the feeling driven sheep.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
One preacher is the same as any other preacher. Some just learned how to make more money than the other one. From outside the faith box, it's just the pot calling the kettle black.
Why is it wrong to believe the Bilbe as it reads??? Yes Jesus paid the full price for our Salvation, and that meant He went to Hell and Praise God He took the keys of death, hell, and the grave from satan. The work of Salvation started when God promised the Messiah in Gen. 3 and ended when Jesus took His own blood and offered it in heaven right after the ressurection.Jesus told Mary not to touch Him in the tomb area untill He had assended.Jesus is truely the "First Born from the Dead!"
brother higin is a man GOD if you are a truelly man of GOD' IN QOUT AS YOU CLAIM WHY WHULD YOU CONDEM ANOTHER MAN SAVARNT THE BILE ALOS WARN ABUT WHAT YOU U DID TO BE TOTALLY AGEST THE WORD OF GOD AND THE HOLLY GOST SO YOU NEED TO STUDY UR BIBLE WELL AGEIN
I have been studying this very thing: the eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ. I believe it is true that Jesus was declared begotten at His Resurrection:
"God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee." Acts 13:33
But Jesus was not "born again", where is the Scripture for that? That glorifies man and denies the Deity of Christ. Jesus said YE must be born again.
You'll know the man by the fruit he bears. Are we bearing good fruit we when we argue? Or are we being acting foolishly? We need not speak against this man because it's asinine. He'll have as many problems as one can handle when he stands before Christ. Christians were called to be peace makers. This man, nor you who debate his empty lectures are doing so. Shut up!
Kenneth Erwin Hagin quoted the Holy Scripture directly. It's funny how this man (the one in the video) claims to hear from God, yet when the written Word of God is directly before his face, he still does not accept it as truth. He screams heresy when, in fact, he does not believe the entire Word of God for himself. The Bible clearly dictates that Jesus was the first born of the dead, and that, after Jesus' resurrection, the Lord said, "Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee."
In reality, Hagin wouldn't have even responded to the claims of this man. Hagin would have merely let the Word of God speak for itself. Like Dad Hagin always said, "Let the ignorant be ignorant still" in regards to those who have hardened their heart into an unteachable state. God bless all!
I can't believe we're still posting to these Hagin bashers, let's go get some mormons or jehovah's witnesses saved. what do you say? I've seen plenty of their vids on youtube.
Wow, Jesus "Spirit" did not go to hell, His soul did as it is written; Act 2:29-32; Jesus became the first begotten of the dead the day He rose, The first having eternal life. Now that dose not mean He was not The Only Begotten of The Father, before that, but for sure when He was raised He was the first begotten form the dead.
@eburner3 No, no man spirit goes to hell, nor has went hell... Because, Jesus said fear him that is able to cast both soul and body into hell.... Not spirit because then the will of the Father would not be fulfilled, and His will is always done
@AchreousD What do you think will happen to all the unbelievers at judgment day? They will be cast into the lake of fire. What do you think Satan and his demons are? They are spirit beings, just as man is a spirit, possesses a soul, and lives in a body. You need to study about man being a 3 in 1 being. Jesus' spirit and soul went to hell for 3 days and nights, and we have been totally redeemed.
@eburner3 Well in fact fallen angels are carnal beings who dwell in a spiritual realm. If they were spiritual they would be able to judge all things as it is written; 1 Cor 2:15. The LORD makes His angels spirits Heb 1:7. Man isn't a spirit who has a soul and lives in a body. Man is spirit, soul and body. His body is him It is written; Ge 6:3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with MAN, FOR THAT HE ALSO IS FLESH:..." This is very clear, also flesh, no dwell in flesh. Peace
@AchreousD 1 Corinthians 2:15 applies to Christians, not demons. Only by the Holy Spirit can anyone be spiritual, and no demon has access to Him. 2 Thessalonians 5:23 might help you understand, along with Hebrews 4:12. They both separate spirit and soul, and Thessalonians 5:23 also makes a distinction between all 3. Jesus also made a distinction between flesh and spirit in John 3:6. See that God said man is ALSO flesh, because man is also spirit and soul.
@eburner3 No it applies to anyone spiritual. Thus demons are not, because they are carnal. You're the one who wrote demons were spirits. You are now correcting yourself. You wrote "just as man is a spirit, possesses a soul, and lives in a body." Yet, Gen make it clear man body is him. I know man is triune as God is, you are contradicting yourself. Go back and read what you wrote and what I wrote. I'm not the one who said "man is a spirit, possesses a soul, and lives in a body." You did
@AchreousD I'll make it clear; man is a spirit, he has a soul ( which is our mind, will, and emotions ), and we live in a body. God made us triune, like He is, and when we are raptured, we will receive a glorified body like Jesus has. There are carnal Christians too, as Paul said the Corinthians were. Being carnal is a soul condition, while being spiritual is a spiritual condition. Carnal people act out of their soul, while spiritual people act out of their spirit.
@AchreousD Once God breathed into Adam, he became a living soul. The "living" part God imparted is His spirit, just as when Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, receive ye the Holy Ghost in John 20:22. That is when the disciples were born again!
@eburner3 How can I be "someone who thinks they understand the bible" and you're the one contradicting yourself? i'm a members of the Body of Christ, called, taught and sent of the LORD to "Teach my saints." What I speak is truth not my opinion or understanding for men. It sad so many believers hear only those whom they qualify because of a degree from men. so many of them do not follow the led of the Holy Spirit into all truth. Try the spirit by the spirit, I trust you know that text. Peace
@AchreousD Easy, because you don't believe the word that a world known bible teacher is teaching. Kenneth Hagin was in the ministry for almost 70 years, and He was anointed to teach, and at times to prophesy. BTW, I don't qualify man, God alone does that, but I do qualify the word they teach. What KH taught was in agreement with the bible, and a Berean searches the word to make sure what anyone teaches is in there. That is what we must be also, as I too am called to be a teacher in the word.
@eburner3 I don't know how Kenneth Hagin was called nor taught; as of yet I have not heard him teach anything in error; but non of that qualifies him. Carlton Person taught for what 50 years, and now claims everyone saved, so how long a person teaches is not a measuring rode; now what do you mean "as I too am called to be a teacher in the word."? You're not one of those who believe the great commission is to "preach the gospel" are you? When I say I was called, i mean that literally
@AchreousD I am called to be a teacher; 1 of the five-fold ministry offices. You are right; time does not qualify anyone, only the word taught under the anointing does. I'm surprised to hear Carlton Pearson said everyone will be saved; because that is not what I read in Revelation. I know it is God's will for everyone to be saved, but not all the people's will. All Christians are called to preach the gospel, but we don't all have the same calling. The body has many members.
@eburner3 No all "christians" are not called to preach; that is the problem now, and the very reason there are so many man made denominations; because man are appointing man, not God. There is only One Ministry, the ministy of reconceliation, five oiffice yes. All believers are called to let thier light shine, and the light is love (Father) and truth (Son) we are called to love one anothwer so all mankind would see the workings of Christ in us, not preach. That's MMD
@AchreousD I believe why Kenneth Hagin and others get attacked is because there are so many immature Christians, who need milk and not the meat of the word. Once we mature, we can receive the revelation that is being taught by the teachers of the word, as well as any prophets and apostles.
What you people need to realize is that being born again for a Christian and being born again for those that belong to the mystery schools are entirely different. It seems Hagin believes in the latter, just as George Bush Senior.
@peacemaker083 Being born again is to be a Christian, not anything else. Only through Jesus can we be born again, as He is the only way to the Father ( John 14:6 ).
sorry... why would ANYONE listen to your foolish attempt at discrediting him. Look no further than the fruit on the tree. If people are being saved, healed or encouraged, you have no business bashing him. Remember the Words of Jesus? If he is not against us, he is for us. This is not against the ministry or Jesus, Stop fishing for bad things, and take the log out of your own eye first that you can see clearly, you hypocrite- or you could be on your way to a hot place friend. Peace out.
The Dake Annotated Reference Bible is the best Bible ever published. I sat under Brother Hagin for two years and he definitely taught the Word of God. LOL, I have to laugh at how scared people are of the the Word of faith!
Which Hagin are you talking about? Dad Hagin was awesome. I'm no so sold on Jr. It has been so long since I've heard Jr. preach that I wouldn't know what he teaches. I will tell you Bro. Hagin Sr. was grounded in the Word which was passed on to me and many others that have graduated from Rhema and others who have followed his ministry.
Why don't you pray and ask God to forgive you for attacking a man of God and judging him. If you don't agree with him then pray for him. Don't make slanderous videos about him. The Bible teaches us that you will be in some pretty hot water for speaking ought against his sevrant. God Bless you and I will keep you in my prayers.
many in the last days shall be decieved by the spirit of the antichrist. false teachers will they follow , they seek to estabelish thier own rightteousness and bring upon themselves quick destruction....
Ac 10:44 "While Peter was still saying these things (rhema) , the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word." These words (rhema) of Peter were seen as a logos. Here we have a direct equation between these two words.
Rhema & Logos are used in the Greek language means the same. For example in the listing of 9 gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12, "Word of knowledge/Word of wisdom - the Greek for word is Logos. But you know that these 2 gifts are supernatural and spoken for a specific moment. Even the Septuagint translators did not distinguish between Rhema and Logos.
@BlabItAndGrabIt There is a difference between greek words that are translated the same in english. John 21:15-17 is a good example. Jesus was saying to Peter do you have agape or unconditonal love for me and everytime Peter answered a brotherly
@BlabItAndGrabIt ( John 21:15-17 cont.) or friendship type love that was conditional. I'm sorry but you are no more greek scholar than I am and you should not be speaking against or for something with having liitle or no knowledge on what you are talking about.
Kenneth E. Haing is being misquoted by someone who simply hates him. All who will live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. Paul also suffered at the hands of false brethren.
Satan laughs with delight when we Christians fuss and fight over our opinions. The biblical truth is this, the beacon guy is causing division in the church trying to discredit what my father in the faith taught Rhema grads, I'm offended because of what mr. beacon and his cronies are saying, if you are causing offense you are causing division. Romans 16:17 "Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them."
Hagin said tithing is a law of prosperity. Yet there is no command of New Testament Christians to tithe. Hagin also lied about Rhema and Logos. They carry the same meaning in Greek. According to an ex-body guard of Hagin, Hagin used to lie to the congregation contrary to what he had discussed in the green room!
I used to be one of Hagin's ex "body guards". I worked as armed security at Rhema and I worked for the Broken Arrow police dept. I have been in the "green" room and I've been in Sr's office. I've been through the whole ministry. One of my friends is still head guard there. You can believe what you want about tithing, I'll go ahead and give my tithes and offerings and I'll continue to give my tithe off of my increase!
@wumsley222 Hear Jesus above every man, read and believe His words, "Call no man on earth your father." This is not including earthly father, but calling any man you "father in faith, or spiritual father" honor the elder as a father, but don't call them that... Peace unto you ....
@wumsley222 Amen, as long as the doctrine is in line with what Yehowshuwa (Jesus) taught, because it doesn't matter if it's from Paul, Peter, James or John or any other man, if what is taught is contrary to what Yehowshuwa taught it is worthless, and should be rejected.
Hagin is a false teachers, much like his products Copeland and Dollar...
The only people who defend him are the very ones who believe their words and false interpretastions of the bible, and refuse to change and accept God's true word.
Their techings appeal to the flesh, and indirectly denny the truth of the scripture.
Is easier to defend them then to get in the Word and ask God to show them the truth.
As a matter of fact it is my oppinion and about a million other people.
He is a DOCUMENTED false teacher and plegiarizer, which means that his teachings had been scrutinized by many scholars against the Word of God and they did not stand.
False teachings are dangerous sir, and if he was your spiritual father, you are in error too.
@hammerandnails777Once again, (and I don't mean to ruffle your feathers) Bro. Hagin is not a false teacher and I am not falsely taught, there are as many people who agree with his teachings as there are who don't agree, Bro. Hagin taught that you must be born again to see the kingdom of God and he taught that there is no other God but the Holy trinity. That my friend is not heresy. Let us rather do our best to convert the sinners, bringing the lost to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. Amen?
@hammerandnails777 Kenneth Hagin teaches the truth, and if you study the word, and receive revelation knowledge from the Holy Spirit, you will know what he teaches is the word. Who are these so-called scholars? I bet they are from a denominational background, as KH received the left foot of fellowship when he was baptized with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Denominational Christians attack word of faith preachers, and miss God's blessings beyond salvation.
@hammerandnails777 I'm interested, why do you say "Hagin is a false teacher"? What did He teach false and do you have a video you can send me, where he is teaching falsely?
Kenneth Haggin's taught the true ways of the Lord for 60 years,and all Evangelical accept him.You can undermine Kenneth only under the influence of the evil one.Period.
Why do you question my teachings?Go and ask all who heard from Me....There are nuts who knows what constitue a Pharisee and yet copied them.The abobe nut is.
Brother Hagin used to say, "I'm at peace with everybody....they may not be at peace with me....but I'm at peace with them." Brother Hagin wouldn't waste his time with this beacon guy, he'd wish him well and beleive the best of him because he might have changed his ways.
@avilakaj the dictionary of pentecostal and charismatic movements under the heading positive confession theology show the heretical roots of hagin's teaching--kenyon was exposed to the metaphysical ideas of phineas quimby who "...attempted to make witchcraft credible by the use of a scientific language"-- in hagin's case, the error of FIDES QUA--how Jesus believed, rather than FIDES QUAE--Jesus as object of faith. authentic biblical faith reveals the former, but is always grounded in the latter.
Hagin knew the power of the Lord in his own life and shared this with many others. A great number of allegedly Christian churches are quick to point the finger but miss his (Biblical) message of holiness and admiration for the WHOLE Godhead - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT. Stop taking the economy version popular today where the Spirit is discarded. Some people go for this but really they lose out as they lack the beautiful and mighty ministry and power of the Holy Spirit in their lives.
Physical death was not enough to save anyone. We are, by sinful nature born destined for spiritual death and Jesus had to conquer this too and praise the Lord, he did! Without his death and resurrection he could not have conquered death, hell and the grave and we could have been saved from none of these. We should be thankful to God for men like brother Hagin who stood up for the FULL Gospel of Jesus not just selected highlights like many "Christians" today.
Unlike so many of these pathetic false preachers, Kenneth Hagin was a mighty man of God. He lived in God's blessing and served the Lord for all of his life after he was restored to heath. This is a pointless attack on his ministry. Ultimately, he was the one who enjoyed the power of God in his life and did a great work in furthering God's kingdom. He was the most sensible, Bible-based teacher on God's healing power during his lifetime.
''1. Now receive the one who is weak in the faith, and do not have disputes over differing opinions.
2. One person believes in eating everything, but the weak
person eats only vegetables.
3. The one who eats everything must not despise the one who does not, and the one who abstains must not judge the one who eats everything, for God has accepted him.''
I think Hammerandnails777 is a fruit because they don't base their facts on anything and are frankly, talking out of their butt. Hagin preaches righteousness and that is what people are afraid of because it actually makes them 1. give up fleshly desires 2. in tune to the Spirit. Hagin preaches WORD. SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES. That is the only way ur baptized. You say you read the bible then how could you miss that? No wonder satan has such a hold on u. he is deceiving you into this thinking.
I just feel sorry for all the losers out there spending their whole life digging out the faults of others... get a friggin life! Haggins ministered for almost a century and all you can get is this crap of a page from a book that's even out of context?? what crap is this?
@hairybuck yeah, these guys will take every scripture in the Bible out of context to fuel their own selfish desires. Robbing from the poor, the needy, the elderly and the weak minded! Concerning giving the Bible says clearly for a man to give according to what he has and not to give if he can't afford to....yes it is in there! Credit card giving is not condoned in the Word of God. Saying Jesus suffered in Hell....blasphemous!!!!
MY94Formula.....my husband sometimes tells me something that really anois me: "there is no more blind like the one that does not want to see.."
I believe that it applies to these ppl...
There are tons of documents written about these charlatans, ocultists and false prophets....But some ppl are just so in deep indoctrinated with the false gospel of Hagin and Copeland that I doubt that they ever get out unless the Lord pull them out...
@Phenomena: jst bear in mind that Christ can forgive you of any sin which includes speaking against Him. But be very very careful because any word AGAINST the Holy Ghost is not forgiven.
What is this old man babbling about? I surely hope no one would ever be stupid enough to speak against the prophet Brother Hagin. If only preachers knew half of what Brother Hagin FORGOT about the word, they might begin to have a clue on what the bible has to offer.
I highly doubt that you speak in tongues. Because if you did your spirit would line up with the word of God which is what Brother Hagin taught. Acts 1:8 and 2:4 !! I have done the studying in the WORD. I use the KJV / AMP not the new watered down stuff.
@goodsyd Hagin is deceived and not a Christian. Holy laughter is blasphemous. Speaking in tongues means speaking in other languages. Not making noise, laughter or other NONSENSE.
@hammerandnails777, When are you going to stop sowing discord and false facts? Hagin did not teach everything is in the mind. Did you go that Hagin only university for one day? Because you don't have any idea what he teaches.
Joh 2:22 "When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture (graphe) and the word that Jesus had spoken." Here John uses the word graphe to refer to the written Scriptures, and logos to refer to that which Jesus had spoken.
hammerandnails777 quote"Have a nice deceptive life....cause you don't have a dram of discernment" this is not love or even the same kind as Jesus' tough love on the Pharisees-No point to it.
@hammerandnails777 Who is deceptive?Me and Irelandcatdog have let you know the facts. Still no answer on the fact that this guy is lying. We got the book and it doen't say what he says!!! Is lying okay as long as it suits your agenda?
I also meant to add that when I said "deceptive", I was not refering to you or Mr. irelangcatdog, but at the false teachers...I have learned that people will read a post...and only one word or two will stand out...even if those words will not refer to them, they will take it as such....without understanding...usually, I have learned, these words are only the reflection of their heart...myself not excluded...
Mr.irelangcatdog....I had made a concious decision not to continue to post on this video anylonger...not because I am backing up from my believes, far from it, however, I am convicted by the fact that to convince someone to believe what I believe is futile.
As far as the false teachers Copeland and the rest, if the Holy Spirit did not protect them from error, they have no Holy Spirit to begin with.
As far as the true believers that are still involved in this movement, well, I must somehow trust that He is more powerful than me and my stupid human brain, and He is able to deliver them, if this is what He so wishes...
I will say God bless you and may the Lord give you the desires of your heart...
Sincerely
Ariel
Please do not bother to respond...Have a good night..
@hammerandnails777, I'll stop responding to you because no matter how many facts I give and how much error you put out you still believe Ariel not the truth. He straight up lied and thats what you want to believe not the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth.Lies come from the spirit of error not Him
@goodsyd Sounds like someone who actually knows what Hagin taught. God bless . I have books that speak against the Word of Faith and they are totally misrepresenting the doctrines of WOF.
My life is my witness! Its all about loving people!
I can tell you all, that since being taught by KH and others - my life as a Christian is stronger, better, more prosperous in every way. I am not financially wealthy (in a worldly way) but the Lord has blessed me with paid bills, reduced debt and the ability to use my money, time and knowledge to reach out to others in the name of Jesus. So, thank you Kenneth Hagin for teaching what the Lord put on your heart.
@sblg43 You are not the standard of truth. The standard is God's Word. Many Mormans, believers in Bahai, etc. will give th same answer you did. It's not how blessed you are. It's how we respond to God's truth. Paul had it real rough after beliving God's truth.
Even if he made some error, he was human, and is infallible...realise that fact!! He is probably in paradise, and u are still in the race... Hence I advise u mind ur speeches for u shall give account of it all. Our negative criticisms of ourselves is the thing exposing the body of Christ to more attacks from the enemy... Please go and search the scriptures!!! As a matter of fact, this pastor criticising has not ministered here...something is wrong somewhere. May God help d church!
Deborahaims 1 week ago
@inheritthepromises: Dear brother, I pity your ignorance. Listen to me, I'm not here to say he is true or false, but I'm here to tell u never to judge anyone, not even an annointed of God. Hagin had the anointing, and (I stand to be corrected) his life and teachings has won and is still winning many to Christ more than his critics!
Deborahaims 1 week ago
Jesus was born of a virgin the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD & the son of man! (Remember that HE called Himself the son of man). Being Himself without sin, He bore OUR sins on that cross and LOST His RIGHT STANDING with The Father, both as His Son & as a son of man. When Jesus was raised to life, He became the FIRST born (BEGOTTEN) of the dead because He IS the sinless Son of God. He was born again in RIGHT STANDING with God, being His Son, for man's justification! This is what Kenneth Hagin meant!
Nebulla38 2 weeks ago
i love it, one nut calling another nut, nuts. arguing about a book of fiction
cotton9386 1 month ago
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childofconvenant 1 month ago
TWO TYPES OF YOU TUBE MINISTERS
1)Those who spend time uploading vids looking for false prophets, scrutinizing other ministers,"... exposed"
2)Those who minister the word of God and leave it to the Holy Spirit.
funny i never seen Muslims calling imams out.
I hope u guys realize that in Paul's day he was called a false apostle.
childofconvenant 1 month ago
shame on all of you for coming to the defense of this heretic, what he teaches is that the 'believer' has all the authority (ala his book "The Believer's Authority) the believer has all the authority, the believer is on the throne and Jesus is perpetually on the cross for our convenience, for our greed, for our wants and needs, when in fact we are to have The Lord Jesus on the throne of our life and perpetually put ourselves on the cross for His service
bronco98765 2 months ago
This nobody is just a typical covetous preacher who wishes his ministry was as big and influential as bro Hagin
wordfaith77840 2 months ago
Watch on youtube MINISTERS OF SATAN by excatholics
Helpingheretics 4 months ago
well jesus became sin...death is separation from God-- he died and went to hell..preached to the spirits in prison..rose from the dead...he was reborn from the dead-with a new body - glorified one..not the one that was on the cross....aint that right?..--this guy really could spend his time better--i dont get it
Revmostrite 4 months ago
@Fleasfleas2 The Reformation is wrong and Hagin was right!
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence. Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Jesus was born of Virgin but only begotten of God of the dead!
inheritthepromises 5 months ago 3
@inheritthepromises Hagin is a false teacher
emekonen 1 week ago
Not everyone who has a 'Christian' book for sale is a real Christian. The pew sitters of America don't discern and recognise the wolves in sheep's clothing:-(
WTU208 6 months ago
When did God tell anybody to preach criticism about another person? Why not PREACH THE GOSPEL, instead of talking about people and making DVD's on people???!!!!!!
chabod66 6 months ago
@chabod66 The apostle Paul warned everyday about false teachers.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in he latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1Tomothy 4:1,2
BereanBeacon1 6 months ago 2
@chabod66 Warning bells should have been sounding when you heard this video. And yet you are attacking the person who’s sounding them?
Wake up! We need to be aware of false teachings under the guise of "Christian Books & preachers". There’s nothing wrong with what this video says.
MustaffaCuppa 6 months ago
Now therefore, what have I here, saith Yähwè יָהוֶה, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule y over them make them to howl, saith Yähwè יָהוֶה; and my name continually every day [is] blasphemed. Isa 52:5
Doxa2Yah 6 months ago
Listen carefully to what this man says: start at :35 'but not so according to kenneth hagin." WHO is kenneth hagin". Certainly NOT MY Holy Spirit. The Bible is MY AUTHORITY. NOT this mere mortal filled with sin as we all are. Good gosh man, God IS God. He does NOT have to go through the refiners fire.... Jesus has ALWAYS been the begotten Son of the ONE true Living God! Someday YOU will stand before the Lord and HE will deny you! You are leading people astray! GOD HELP YOU!
erinlaubhan 8 months ago
I wouldn’t want to be in your shoes when we stand before God when asks you about attacking God’s anointed, if we don’t like what is happening don’t speak out in judging manner. I’m positive God can take care of his business.
MrPilcher1 8 months ago 2
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@MrPilcher1 .
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
BereanBeacon1 8 months ago
@MrPilcher1 Nobody's attacking God's anointed. Kenneth Hagin was an imposter - not a man of God. That's the whole point of the video - he twisted the scriptures & sold lying books!
If we were not to judge, then we'd be allowing our children to cross the road while cars were coming, & sharing our most important secrets with the local gossips etc. !
Of course we're to judge what is right & wrong & it’s a matter of utmost importance to warn Christians who are being taken in by charlatans...
MustaffaCuppa 6 months ago
Good pnt ~ even if it was spammed
@Latino1949 Have you ever read Acts 20:31? People who follow this carnival approach do so for entertainment.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Timothy 4:3,4
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TJae1 8 months ago
@TJae1 Amen brother that is the word of the lord!!!
losdodgerz 8 months ago
Does everybody know who Jesus was?.....so now you can go out and get a fuckin job!
bermudaguy1 9 months ago
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@bermudaguy1 Your time is near.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
It's sad to see this hate on youtube.
jeremy197624 9 months ago
@jeremy197624 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:19
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
when was this book written that the speaker quotes from?
clearly hagin has gotten WORSE since i rejected him as a raging heretic over 20 years ago
Strefanasha 9 months ago
DOOM IS BEFALLING THE evil shepherds of no mercy cruel beasts that take peoples last penny they are digging the level of hell they will reside in, they did this.
YAHUSHUASFIRE 9 months ago
Hagin like so many are sold out to the devil and one of his most prized weapons like many other prophets of baal which I rebuke and cast away their evil and tormenting work in YAHUSHUA'S/JESUS' NAME, THE BAPTIZER OF THE PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT, not the a fake for these liars serve a dark jesus.
ABBA YAH INSTEAD I PRAY HOLY ANOINTING POWER ON ALL THE Redeemed AS YOU WILL IT IN YAHUSHUA'S/JESUS' NAME
YAHUSHUASFIRE 9 months ago
take some anger management classes
LukeNDhumphriesio 9 months ago
true man of God you know it is when they are attacked like this
togowack 9 months ago
@togowack For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 i assume you speak that against the people who speak against Hagin
togowack 9 months ago
@togowack They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 1John 4:5,6
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
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@BereanBeacon1 thats right people like you are of the spirit of error
togowack 9 months ago
Wow, Kenneth Hagin was kooky.
SpeakaDaEnglish 10 months ago
it took me all of thirty seconds to discern this man is decieved. It is so easy to recognise truth, and this man is the man who says frangipane is also false. I can tell you now that his manner, his critical spirit is clearly not the Holy Spirit.
Elijahsreturn 10 months ago
Who the heck are you, don't you have anything better to do than to call another man a heretic. If you truly knew the teachings of Ken Hagin SR you would realize he taught being born again, faith in God, and Sickness and Disease and all the powers of hell have no reign over you. I know there is a lot heresy out there, Hagin was not one of them. Stop trying to correct everyone else, get back in the prayer closet and go out and do the work of Jesus.
SelflessEmpire 10 months ago
@SelflessEmpire For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 The phrase "born again" is central to the witchcraft of Christianity. It is very similar to the occult spells cast upon innocent people by the witches of Judaism & Islam, the 2 sister cults of Christianity.
They reference evil tomes such as the Bible & Koran in order to communicate with demons like Jehovah/Allah, foul beast from the bowels of hell. They seek to serve those with political power and great wealth while casting witches spells on their congregations to keep them down.
TheColonelKlink 10 months ago
@TheColonelKlink - this is clearly wicked talk, to accuse Jehovah of being such is wickedness beyond my comprehension, and to accuse Christianity of being witchcraft is just ridiculous. Lucifer was the fallen angel, and he couldn't even get past Michael. He was no greater than the other angels, and God created them all. What a load of alarming claptrap from someone who knows nothing, or has a very dark motive. I guess only you and God know the truth on that one.
Elijahsreturn 10 months ago
@Elijahsreturn
1 of many examples; Christians teach that an alleged 1st century rabbi was executed for sedition by the Roman authorities. His corpse lays rotting in a tomb for a few days then he "magically" comes back to life. After going on a little stroll, handing out last minute tips & instructions to his followers he then flies up in the sky. Through incantations (prayer) & ritual Christians seek his intercession on their behalf from the realm of the dead. Witchcraft.
Religion is poison.
TheColonelKlink 10 months ago
The Lord will strengthen you and me. I have been in an experiment and I need more help to get stable again. Prayer for me every day and night. Just for a couple of minutes here and there. I really need your help. Prayer the known written Word of God over my life as if you would pray for yourself. Don't forget to thank Him as well. Paul
PaulBryanSmith 11 months ago
@PaulBryanSmith We have a small group on Skype, if you would like to join.
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
There is no mention of HOLINESS in this gospel that is being preached..without it no man can see GOD. Why don't preachers spend tv time on this message? Most of the congregation would get up and leave. The WOG is a two edged SWORD. It PIERCES THE HEART. IT DIVIDES BETWEEN SOUL AND SPIRIT. It's painful. It can cut you right to the quick and pull out anything that is not like Christ. It will break you or harden you. This mind over matter gospel is not the truth. it's catholicism.
pmsou 11 months ago
people don't you realize that every preacher now looks like a miniature kenneth hagin and not like Christ? There teachings are psychology. There's no cross in their message. They are promising you FREEDOM but they themselves are bound. Satan deceives people..he entertwines the truth with a lie. When I stand on the day of judgment, Jesus is not going to ask me "who do MEN say that I am?" He is going to ask me "WHO DO YOU SAY THAT I AM"? We better know him and not some doctrine.
pmsou 11 months ago
I think you have better things to do than criticize other ministers. If it wasn't for the "heresy" of BROTHER Kenneth Hagin I'd still be stuck in the UPC but thank God I've been gone from there since 1999 and it was because of Kenneth Hagin's teaching that I got my eyes opened. As far as I'm concerned Kenneth Hagin was one of the greatest men of God of this age and you would do well to listen to some of his messages. Throw out the stubble and eat the hay.
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@johnnynocaster For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
BereanBeacon1 1 year ago
YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!
KENNETH HAGIN WAS GREATLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MY HEALING FROM CANCER! HIS BOOKS HELPED ME TO KNOW GOD AND RECEIVE GOD'S HEALING!
mark1122istrue 1 year ago
you should worry about yourself. i can feel that you do not have God's spirit. Kenneth, though, was a lovely man. are you jealous. why don't you help the world instead of wasting your time being critical of a godly man?
mark1122istrue 1 year ago
It is always interesting that everybody in other Religeous groups. First of all no one knows who you are.
Instead of having faith and praying for them if you think they are wrong, I guess you haven't read that in the Bible, or you don't have any faith. If you believe pray and God is able to change them, why don't you try that not not sin against God on a worldwide youtube where everyone can watch or read it. Get a real Job and consider yourself fired from your position as a sharp shooter.
Latino1949 1 year ago
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@Latino1949 Have you ever read Acts 20:31? People who follow this carnival approach do so for entertainment.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Timothy 4:3,4
BereanBeacon1 1 year ago
Oh foolish man! Who has bewitched you? (Gal. 3:1) The Bible truth that Dr. Hagin was trying to show was that being born again is of the heart and not religious action. He wasn't truly born again until he made Jesus the Lord in his heart. Also, when Jesus took our sin on the cross and died the sinner's death, he experienced SPIRITUAL DEATH. So when God by His Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, He was given new spiritual life. Rom. 8:11 fully explains Dr. Hagins experience.
faithandlove80 1 year ago
What a waste of time! Nothing wrong with Kenneth Hagan. He was teaching on a different light of the same truth.
gstuart01 1 year ago
STOP MAJORING ON THE MINORS, HAGIN TEACHES THAT YOU HAVE TO BORN AGAIN...... WICH IS THE TRUTH..... YOU WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY IDLE WORD SPOKEN AGAINST THE BRETHREN... REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
merismosman 1 year ago
I've lived long enough to know that I never did, don't now, and will not As long as I live in this body know ALL things as some of the heresy hunters of our day. Wouldn't the effort of edifying the Body of Christ be best served doing good as Jesus did rather than combating what one day may prove to be TRUTH? Blessings upon the Lord's Church!
pastorgcc 1 year ago
The World looks on in wonder, as we cannibalize the church and crucify each other. Amazing... now that is an effective way to reach a lost World. Post a YouTube video full of verbal non-sense and accusations (true or not) - then feel justified that you have done some great and spiritual thing.
Hmm.... I wonder, who are the lost?
mdgoll 1 year ago
@mdgoll The really amazing thing is the dumb sheep that follow this false teachers and come under this verse:
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
BereanBeacon1 1 year ago
can't feel the love from this preacher (in this video).. :|
simplysteffy 1 year ago
@simplysteffy You shouldn't trust your feelings and stay in your Bible. Paul warned everyone night and day about people like Hagan. They survive by fleecing the feeling driven sheep.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4
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simplysteffy 1 year ago
One preacher is the same as any other preacher. Some just learned how to make more money than the other one. From outside the faith box, it's just the pot calling the kettle black.
hyoidbone54 1 year ago
Why is it wrong to believe the Bilbe as it reads??? Yes Jesus paid the full price for our Salvation, and that meant He went to Hell and Praise God He took the keys of death, hell, and the grave from satan. The work of Salvation started when God promised the Messiah in Gen. 3 and ended when Jesus took His own blood and offered it in heaven right after the ressurection.Jesus told Mary not to touch Him in the tomb area untill He had assended.Jesus is truely the "First Born from the Dead!"
rorhema 1 year ago
brother higin is a man GOD if you are a truelly man of GOD' IN QOUT AS YOU CLAIM WHY WHULD YOU CONDEM ANOTHER MAN SAVARNT THE BILE ALOS WARN ABUT WHAT YOU U DID TO BE TOTALLY AGEST THE WORD OF GOD AND THE HOLLY GOST SO YOU NEED TO STUDY UR BIBLE WELL AGEIN
megaufuoma 1 year ago
I have been studying this very thing: the eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ. I believe it is true that Jesus was declared begotten at His Resurrection:
"God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee." Acts 13:33
But Jesus was not "born again", where is the Scripture for that? That glorifies man and denies the Deity of Christ. Jesus said YE must be born again.
Enoch2 1 year ago
You'll know the man by the fruit he bears. Are we bearing good fruit we when we argue? Or are we being acting foolishly? We need not speak against this man because it's asinine. He'll have as many problems as one can handle when he stands before Christ. Christians were called to be peace makers. This man, nor you who debate his empty lectures are doing so. Shut up!
desthe2 1 year ago
Kenneth Erwin Hagin quoted the Holy Scripture directly. It's funny how this man (the one in the video) claims to hear from God, yet when the written Word of God is directly before his face, he still does not accept it as truth. He screams heresy when, in fact, he does not believe the entire Word of God for himself. The Bible clearly dictates that Jesus was the first born of the dead, and that, after Jesus' resurrection, the Lord said, "Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee."
Subzerocool121 1 year ago
In reality, Hagin wouldn't have even responded to the claims of this man. Hagin would have merely let the Word of God speak for itself. Like Dad Hagin always said, "Let the ignorant be ignorant still" in regards to those who have hardened their heart into an unteachable state. God bless all!
Subzerocool121 1 year ago
That stuff from Hagin is mumbo jumbo drivel guys sorry man it sounds like some sort of new age stuff like you need an occult degree or gnosis.
349322 1 year ago
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so sorry you feel this way, wish you had read the book
flatfish3 1 year ago
so sorry you feel this way, wish you had read the the book
flatfish3 1 year ago
I can't believe we're still posting to these Hagin bashers, let's go get some mormons or jehovah's witnesses saved. what do you say? I've seen plenty of their vids on youtube.
wumsley222 1 year ago
"Hell" is a catch all definition that is incorrect.
See "Sheol", "Hades" and "Gehenna"
See where each was used and what it means. Keep in context and do not be deceived.
taaronemore74 1 year ago
Wow, Jesus "Spirit" did not go to hell, His soul did as it is written; Act 2:29-32; Jesus became the first begotten of the dead the day He rose, The first having eternal life. Now that dose not mean He was not The Only Begotten of The Father, before that, but for sure when He was raised He was the first begotten form the dead.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD Jesus' spirit and soul went to hell, because they are connected.
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 No, no man spirit goes to hell, nor has went hell... Because, Jesus said fear him that is able to cast both soul and body into hell.... Not spirit because then the will of the Father would not be fulfilled, and His will is always done
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD What do you think will happen to all the unbelievers at judgment day? They will be cast into the lake of fire. What do you think Satan and his demons are? They are spirit beings, just as man is a spirit, possesses a soul, and lives in a body. You need to study about man being a 3 in 1 being. Jesus' spirit and soul went to hell for 3 days and nights, and we have been totally redeemed.
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 Well in fact fallen angels are carnal beings who dwell in a spiritual realm. If they were spiritual they would be able to judge all things as it is written; 1 Cor 2:15. The LORD makes His angels spirits Heb 1:7. Man isn't a spirit who has a soul and lives in a body. Man is spirit, soul and body. His body is him It is written; Ge 6:3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with MAN, FOR THAT HE ALSO IS FLESH:..." This is very clear, also flesh, no dwell in flesh. Peace
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD 1 Corinthians 2:15 applies to Christians, not demons. Only by the Holy Spirit can anyone be spiritual, and no demon has access to Him. 2 Thessalonians 5:23 might help you understand, along with Hebrews 4:12. They both separate spirit and soul, and Thessalonians 5:23 also makes a distinction between all 3. Jesus also made a distinction between flesh and spirit in John 3:6. See that God said man is ALSO flesh, because man is also spirit and soul.
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 No it applies to anyone spiritual. Thus demons are not, because they are carnal. You're the one who wrote demons were spirits. You are now correcting yourself. You wrote "just as man is a spirit, possesses a soul, and lives in a body." Yet, Gen make it clear man body is him. I know man is triune as God is, you are contradicting yourself. Go back and read what you wrote and what I wrote. I'm not the one who said "man is a spirit, possesses a soul, and lives in a body." You did
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD I'll make it clear; man is a spirit, he has a soul ( which is our mind, will, and emotions ), and we live in a body. God made us triune, like He is, and when we are raptured, we will receive a glorified body like Jesus has. There are carnal Christians too, as Paul said the Corinthians were. Being carnal is a soul condition, while being spiritual is a spiritual condition. Carnal people act out of their soul, while spiritual people act out of their spirit.
eburner3 1 year ago
@AchreousD Once God breathed into Adam, he became a living soul. The "living" part God imparted is His spirit, just as when Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, receive ye the Holy Ghost in John 20:22. That is when the disciples were born again!
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 Okay, what's your point?
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD Are you a Christian, or just someone who thinks they understand the bible?
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 How can I be "someone who thinks they understand the bible" and you're the one contradicting yourself? i'm a members of the Body of Christ, called, taught and sent of the LORD to "Teach my saints." What I speak is truth not my opinion or understanding for men. It sad so many believers hear only those whom they qualify because of a degree from men. so many of them do not follow the led of the Holy Spirit into all truth. Try the spirit by the spirit, I trust you know that text. Peace
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD Easy, because you don't believe the word that a world known bible teacher is teaching. Kenneth Hagin was in the ministry for almost 70 years, and He was anointed to teach, and at times to prophesy. BTW, I don't qualify man, God alone does that, but I do qualify the word they teach. What KH taught was in agreement with the bible, and a Berean searches the word to make sure what anyone teaches is in there. That is what we must be also, as I too am called to be a teacher in the word.
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 I don't know how Kenneth Hagin was called nor taught; as of yet I have not heard him teach anything in error; but non of that qualifies him. Carlton Person taught for what 50 years, and now claims everyone saved, so how long a person teaches is not a measuring rode; now what do you mean "as I too am called to be a teacher in the word."? You're not one of those who believe the great commission is to "preach the gospel" are you? When I say I was called, i mean that literally
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD I am called to be a teacher; 1 of the five-fold ministry offices. You are right; time does not qualify anyone, only the word taught under the anointing does. I'm surprised to hear Carlton Pearson said everyone will be saved; because that is not what I read in Revelation. I know it is God's will for everyone to be saved, but not all the people's will. All Christians are called to preach the gospel, but we don't all have the same calling. The body has many members.
eburner3 1 year ago
@eburner3 No all "christians" are not called to preach; that is the problem now, and the very reason there are so many man made denominations; because man are appointing man, not God. There is only One Ministry, the ministy of reconceliation, five oiffice yes. All believers are called to let thier light shine, and the light is love (Father) and truth (Son) we are called to love one anothwer so all mankind would see the workings of Christ in us, not preach. That's MMD
Rom 10:14-15; 1Co 12:27-31
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD I believe why Kenneth Hagin and others get attacked is because there are so many immature Christians, who need milk and not the meat of the word. Once we mature, we can receive the revelation that is being taught by the teachers of the word, as well as any prophets and apostles.
eburner3 1 year ago
What you people need to realize is that being born again for a Christian and being born again for those that belong to the mystery schools are entirely different. It seems Hagin believes in the latter, just as George Bush Senior.
peacemaker083 1 year ago
@peacemaker083 Being born again is to be a Christian, not anything else. Only through Jesus can we be born again, as He is the only way to the Father ( John 14:6 ).
eburner3 1 year ago
Shame on you sir! He was a great man of God & his life proved it all the way to the end.
96bonzo 1 year ago
SUCH SHIT ! ! !
flicker1969 1 year ago
Dude, speak English!
fagngheynstufflol 1 year ago
makes sense to me?
monstermovieman 1 year ago
sorry... why would ANYONE listen to your foolish attempt at discrediting him. Look no further than the fruit on the tree. If people are being saved, healed or encouraged, you have no business bashing him. Remember the Words of Jesus? If he is not against us, he is for us. This is not against the ministry or Jesus, Stop fishing for bad things, and take the log out of your own eye first that you can see clearly, you hypocrite- or you could be on your way to a hot place friend. Peace out.
lolskylar 1 year ago
The Dake Annotated Reference Bible is the best Bible ever published. I sat under Brother Hagin for two years and he definitely taught the Word of God. LOL, I have to laugh at how scared people are of the the Word of faith!
Progneto 1 year ago
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AchreousD 1 year ago
Which Hagin are you talking about? Dad Hagin was awesome. I'm no so sold on Jr. It has been so long since I've heard Jr. preach that I wouldn't know what he teaches. I will tell you Bro. Hagin Sr. was grounded in the Word which was passed on to me and many others that have graduated from Rhema and others who have followed his ministry.
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Talmik84 1 year ago
Why don't you pray and ask God to forgive you for attacking a man of God and judging him. If you don't agree with him then pray for him. Don't make slanderous videos about him. The Bible teaches us that you will be in some pretty hot water for speaking ought against his sevrant. God Bless you and I will keep you in my prayers.
sherriebolen 1 year ago
u both mad but hagin more mad
agbariya 1 year ago
thief
euroman32589 1 year ago
many in the last days shall be decieved by the spirit of the antichrist. false teachers will they follow , they seek to estabelish thier own rightteousness and bring upon themselves quick destruction....
faithalonein1Christ 1 year ago
Ac 10:44 "While Peter was still saying these things (rhema) , the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word." These words (rhema) of Peter were seen as a logos. Here we have a direct equation between these two words.
BlabItAndGrabIt 1 year ago
Rhema & Logos are used in the Greek language means the same. For example in the listing of 9 gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12, "Word of knowledge/Word of wisdom - the Greek for word is Logos. But you know that these 2 gifts are supernatural and spoken for a specific moment. Even the Septuagint translators did not distinguish between Rhema and Logos.
BlabItAndGrabIt 1 year ago
@BlabItAndGrabIt There is a difference between greek words that are translated the same in english. John 21:15-17 is a good example. Jesus was saying to Peter do you have agape or unconditonal love for me and everytime Peter answered a brotherly
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
@BlabItAndGrabIt ( John 21:15-17 cont.) or friendship type love that was conditional. I'm sorry but you are no more greek scholar than I am and you should not be speaking against or for something with having liitle or no knowledge on what you are talking about.
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
Kenneth E. Haing is being misquoted by someone who simply hates him. All who will live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. Paul also suffered at the hands of false brethren.
frederickj3 1 year ago
Satan laughs with delight when we Christians fuss and fight over our opinions. The biblical truth is this, the beacon guy is causing division in the church trying to discredit what my father in the faith taught Rhema grads, I'm offended because of what mr. beacon and his cronies are saying, if you are causing offense you are causing division. Romans 16:17 "Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them."
wumsley222 1 year ago
@wumsley222
Hagin said tithing is a law of prosperity. Yet there is no command of New Testament Christians to tithe. Hagin also lied about Rhema and Logos. They carry the same meaning in Greek. According to an ex-body guard of Hagin, Hagin used to lie to the congregation contrary to what he had discussed in the green room!
BlabItAndGrabIt 1 year ago
I used to be one of Hagin's ex "body guards". I worked as armed security at Rhema and I worked for the Broken Arrow police dept. I have been in the "green" room and I've been in Sr's office. I've been through the whole ministry. One of my friends is still head guard there. You can believe what you want about tithing, I'll go ahead and give my tithes and offerings and I'll continue to give my tithe off of my increase!
Progneto 1 year ago
@wumsley222 Hear Jesus above every man, read and believe His words, "Call no man on earth your father." This is not including earthly father, but calling any man you "father in faith, or spiritual father" honor the elder as a father, but don't call them that... Peace unto you ....
AchreousD 1 year ago
@wumsley222 Amen, as long as the doctrine is in line with what Yehowshuwa (Jesus) taught, because it doesn't matter if it's from Paul, Peter, James or John or any other man, if what is taught is contrary to what Yehowshuwa taught it is worthless, and should be rejected.
AchreousD 1 year ago
Hagin is a false teachers, much like his products Copeland and Dollar...
The only people who defend him are the very ones who believe their words and false interpretastions of the bible, and refuse to change and accept God's true word.
Their techings appeal to the flesh, and indirectly denny the truth of the scripture.
Is easier to defend them then to get in the Word and ask God to show them the truth.
However, the elect cannot be deceived...Amen
hammerandnails777 1 year ago 7
@hammerandnails777 sorry dude but that is only your opinion.....and no one really cares.
wumsley222 1 year ago
@wumsley222
As a matter of fact it is my oppinion and about a million other people.
He is a DOCUMENTED false teacher and plegiarizer, which means that his teachings had been scrutinized by many scholars against the Word of God and they did not stand.
False teachings are dangerous sir, and if he was your spiritual father, you are in error too.
God bless you..
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777Once again, (and I don't mean to ruffle your feathers) Bro. Hagin is not a false teacher and I am not falsely taught, there are as many people who agree with his teachings as there are who don't agree, Bro. Hagin taught that you must be born again to see the kingdom of God and he taught that there is no other God but the Holy trinity. That my friend is not heresy. Let us rather do our best to convert the sinners, bringing the lost to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. Amen?
wumsley222 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777 Kenneth Hagin teaches the truth, and if you study the word, and receive revelation knowledge from the Holy Spirit, you will know what he teaches is the word. Who are these so-called scholars? I bet they are from a denominational background, as KH received the left foot of fellowship when he was baptized with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Denominational Christians attack word of faith preachers, and miss God's blessings beyond salvation.
eburner3 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777 I'm interested, why do you say "Hagin is a false teacher"? What did He teach false and do you have a video you can send me, where he is teaching falsely?
AchreousD 1 year ago
All those initials behind your name make me think you've had alot of help misunderstanding the simple truth of the gospel.
BearBarton53 1 year ago
Kenneth Haggin's taught the true ways of the Lord for 60 years,and all Evangelical accept him.You can undermine Kenneth only under the influence of the evil one.Period.
Why do you question my teachings?Go and ask all who heard from Me....There are nuts who knows what constitue a Pharisee and yet copied them.The abobe nut is.
frankielee77 1 year ago
kenneth states that jesus was begotten when he was raised up. on that RESURRECTION morn. not born again in hell? this guy is twisting words here.
ross011101 1 year ago
Brother Hagin used to say, "I'm at peace with everybody....they may not be at peace with me....but I'm at peace with them." Brother Hagin wouldn't waste his time with this beacon guy, he'd wish him well and beleive the best of him because he might have changed his ways.
wumsley222 1 year ago
WRONG Ken
he was before the foundations of the world even
KiddJesus 1 year ago
LISTEN UP! Hagin used Kenyons teaching and it was VERY unbiblical in many ways! Look it up and compare to the Word!
avilakaj 1 year ago
@avilakaj the dictionary of pentecostal and charismatic movements under the heading positive confession theology show the heretical roots of hagin's teaching--kenyon was exposed to the metaphysical ideas of phineas quimby who "...attempted to make witchcraft credible by the use of a scientific language"-- in hagin's case, the error of FIDES QUA--how Jesus believed, rather than FIDES QUAE--Jesus as object of faith. authentic biblical faith reveals the former, but is always grounded in the latter.
turquoise770 1 year ago 2
@avilakaj that is only your opinion dude, everybody has an opinion and we should keep them to ourselves since no one really cares.
wumsley222 1 year ago
Hagin knew the power of the Lord in his own life and shared this with many others. A great number of allegedly Christian churches are quick to point the finger but miss his (Biblical) message of holiness and admiration for the WHOLE Godhead - FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT. Stop taking the economy version popular today where the Spirit is discarded. Some people go for this but really they lose out as they lack the beautiful and mighty ministry and power of the Holy Spirit in their lives.
owatson322utube 1 year ago
Physical death was not enough to save anyone. We are, by sinful nature born destined for spiritual death and Jesus had to conquer this too and praise the Lord, he did! Without his death and resurrection he could not have conquered death, hell and the grave and we could have been saved from none of these. We should be thankful to God for men like brother Hagin who stood up for the FULL Gospel of Jesus not just selected highlights like many "Christians" today.
owatson322utube 1 year ago
Unlike so many of these pathetic false preachers, Kenneth Hagin was a mighty man of God. He lived in God's blessing and served the Lord for all of his life after he was restored to heath. This is a pointless attack on his ministry. Ultimately, he was the one who enjoyed the power of God in his life and did a great work in furthering God's kingdom. He was the most sensible, Bible-based teacher on God's healing power during his lifetime.
owatson322utube 1 year ago
Romans ch.14
''1. Now receive the one who is weak in the faith, and do not have disputes over differing opinions.
2. One person believes in eating everything, but the weak
person eats only vegetables.
3. The one who eats everything must not despise the one who does not, and the one who abstains must not judge the one who eats everything, for God has accepted him.''
me4ohoro 1 year ago
Galatians 4:29
But just as at that time the one born by natural descent
persecuted the one born according to the Spirit, so it is now.
Mark 16:17
These signs will accompany those who believe: In my name
they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages
me4ohoro 1 year ago
I think Hammerandnails777 is a fruit because they don't base their facts on anything and are frankly, talking out of their butt. Hagin preaches righteousness and that is what people are afraid of because it actually makes them 1. give up fleshly desires 2. in tune to the Spirit. Hagin preaches WORD. SPEAKING IN OTHER TONGUES. That is the only way ur baptized. You say you read the bible then how could you miss that? No wonder satan has such a hold on u. he is deceiving you into this thinking.
goodsyd 1 year ago
consider this ~ it's american preachers preaching 2 americans ~ what is america ~ what do americans like ~ prosperity for starters ~
TJae1 1 year ago
It is so amazing to me the statement that some people make in defense of the documented false teachers/preachers Hagin/Copeland and the rest.
It is clear that this ppl are preaching another gospel.
When you make the statement that Jesus was born again....you are preaching another gospel...
The core problem in this deception time, is that ppl are too busy or lazy and THEY DO NOT READ THE WORD FOR THEMSELVES...
these ppl are leading you to destruction...
They preach "another Jesus"
Wake up!!
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
I just feel sorry for all the losers out there spending their whole life digging out the faults of others... get a friggin life! Haggins ministered for almost a century and all you can get is this crap of a page from a book that's even out of context?? what crap is this?
hairybuck 1 year ago
@hairybuck yeah, these guys will take every scripture in the Bible out of context to fuel their own selfish desires. Robbing from the poor, the needy, the elderly and the weak minded! Concerning giving the Bible says clearly for a man to give according to what he has and not to give if he can't afford to....yes it is in there! Credit card giving is not condoned in the Word of God. Saying Jesus suffered in Hell....blasphemous!!!!
MY94Formula 1 year ago
MY94Formula.....my husband sometimes tells me something that really anois me: "there is no more blind like the one that does not want to see.."
I believe that it applies to these ppl...
There are tons of documents written about these charlatans, ocultists and false prophets....But some ppl are just so in deep indoctrinated with the false gospel of Hagin and Copeland that I doubt that they ever get out unless the Lord pull them out...
I totally agree with you...
God bless
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hairybuck....these are documented false teachers....if you are involved with them.....run.....don't walk...away...
May God bless...
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
Get em!!!!!!! Way to say it
goodsyd 1 year ago
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there is no god, jesus is a huge joke, there is no holy ghost, the bible is fiction
PhenomenalDays 1 year ago
@Phenomena: jst bear in mind that Christ can forgive you of any sin which includes speaking against Him. But be very very careful because any word AGAINST the Holy Ghost is not forgiven.
ampleoppourtunity 1 year ago
What is this old man babbling about? I surely hope no one would ever be stupid enough to speak against the prophet Brother Hagin. If only preachers knew half of what Brother Hagin FORGOT about the word, they might begin to have a clue on what the bible has to offer.
goodsyd 1 year ago
@goodsyd....
That is what I thought too, until I discovered his and others like him heresies.
If you are under the teachings of Hagin, you are in fact under the teachings of a documented false teacher.
K. Hagin teachings are inspired ny Kennyon, which claimed that everything is in the mind.
And if you change your mind, you change everything that is going on in your life.
Word confession is also his teachings.
New Age disgused under the word of God..
Study for yourself..
God bless...
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
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goodsyd 1 year ago
I highly doubt that you speak in tongues. Because if you did your spirit would line up with the word of God which is what Brother Hagin taught. Acts 1:8 and 2:4 !! I have done the studying in the WORD. I use the KJV / AMP not the new watered down stuff.
goodsyd 1 year ago 2
@goodsyd Hagin is deceived and not a Christian. Holy laughter is blasphemous. Speaking in tongues means speaking in other languages. Not making noise, laughter or other NONSENSE.
peacemaker083 1 year ago
@goodsyd i like hagin also
trancemajestic 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777, When are you going to stop sowing discord and false facts? Hagin did not teach everything is in the mind. Did you go that Hagin only university for one day? Because you don't have any idea what he teaches.
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
@MrMerryheart
Hammerandnails777 is telling the truth.
Joh 2:22 "When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture (graphe) and the word that Jesus had spoken." Here John uses the word graphe to refer to the written Scriptures, and logos to refer to that which Jesus had spoken.
BlabItAndGrabIt 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777 I have studied and I think you need to get saved!!!
wumsley222 1 year ago
@speak in tongues...???
What tongues...??
Bro Hagin is a false prophet and a cultist...the worse kind...
And you are being deceived...
Have a nice deceptive life....cause you don't have a dram of discernment....
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
hammerandnails777 quote"Have a nice deceptive life....cause you don't have a dram of discernment" this is not love or even the same kind as Jesus' tough love on the Pharisees-No point to it.
irelandcatdog 1 year ago
@irelandcatdog
Live them alone, the blind leading the blind, they shall both fall into a ditch...
Love, my friend, is not the touchy, feeli, shmoozy love that the world is portraying as love, nor the infatuation of the human heart...
You want to see PURE AGAPE LOVE...???
Then, IMMAGINE JESUS ON THE CROSS...!!
I would rather tell someone the truth straight up, then to lick their ears with deceptive words....Your choice..
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777 Who is deceptive?Me and Irelandcatdog have let you know the facts. Still no answer on the fact that this guy is lying. We got the book and it doen't say what he says!!! Is lying okay as long as it suits your agenda?
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
@MrMerryheart
Dear MrMerryheart, please read my previous posts to Mr. irelandcatdog...
I wish all the best...
God bless you richly..
Ariel
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777
I also meant to add that when I said "deceptive", I was not refering to you or Mr. irelangcatdog, but at the false teachers...I have learned that people will read a post...and only one word or two will stand out...even if those words will not refer to them, they will take it as such....without understanding...usually, I have learned, these words are only the reflection of their heart...myself not excluded...
God bless..
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777 I have. Still no response on thar this guy chambers is bearing a false witness?
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
@irelandcatdog
Mr.irelangcatdog....I had made a concious decision not to continue to post on this video anylonger...not because I am backing up from my believes, far from it, however, I am convicted by the fact that to convince someone to believe what I believe is futile.
As far as the false teachers Copeland and the rest, if the Holy Spirit did not protect them from error, they have no Holy Spirit to begin with.
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777 HEB. 6:4-6 DISAGREES WITH YOU. NO HOLY SPIRIT TO BEGIN WITH? YOU ARE IN ERROR HERE DOES THIS INCLUDE YOU
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
@irelandcatdog
As far as the true believers that are still involved in this movement, well, I must somehow trust that He is more powerful than me and my stupid human brain, and He is able to deliver them, if this is what He so wishes...
I will say God bless you and may the Lord give you the desires of your heart...
Sincerely
Ariel
Please do not bother to respond...Have a good night..
hammerandnails777 1 year ago
@hammerandnails777, I'll stop responding to you because no matter how many facts I give and how much error you put out you still believe Ariel not the truth. He straight up lied and thats what you want to believe not the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth.Lies come from the spirit of error not Him
irelandcatdog 1 year ago
@goodsyd Sounds like someone who actually knows what Hagin taught. God bless . I have books that speak against the Word of Faith and they are totally misrepresenting the doctrines of WOF.
MrMerryheart 1 year ago
My life is my witness! Its all about loving people!
I can tell you all, that since being taught by KH and others - my life as a Christian is stronger, better, more prosperous in every way. I am not financially wealthy (in a worldly way) but the Lord has blessed me with paid bills, reduced debt and the ability to use my money, time and knowledge to reach out to others in the name of Jesus. So, thank you Kenneth Hagin for teaching what the Lord put on your heart.
Praise God!
sblg43 2 years ago
@sblg43 You are not the standard of truth. The standard is God's Word. Many Mormans, believers in Bahai, etc. will give th same answer you did. It's not how blessed you are. It's how we respond to God's truth. Paul had it real rough after beliving God's truth.
LawrenceKennard 1 year ago 4