A Response to Responses About a Rant About the Pirate Bay

[Allmanfan456]

i myself download albums of some songs off of them so i can get a taste for the album. I'm one of those people who like to have the physical album... its odd i know but i like to have them. so i buy the albums eventually when i have the money!

[targethonda]

Your comments about Madonna and Dr Dre are so true.

[riverofstone]

i completely agree with you

[KH2Finatix]

its over, the pirate bay is dead

[tomdabomb12354]

my belief is that if someone bought something and then put up a fileshare on a site like the pirate bay then thats fine but if no one bought the track to begin with and say stole the album from a store or something than put it up the artist didnt get that initial about 10$ which i feel is wrong

[xxFortunadoxx]

Seconded. As long as the original cd was bought, any further copies made by the owner of the original cd are also owned by the cd owner as the cd should be considered his property.

What most people don't realize in today's society is that we don't actually own the cd that we buy. We own the right to play that cd on any media playing device that we wish. I don't know about you or anyone else, but when I buy something, it's mine. I don't care what the law says, what I deem moral counts.

[ShadyXXXLurker]

dude dr.dre is one of the greatest hip hop producers of all time

[metalandmore1]

Dr.Dre is good but he is kind of dumb. I really think you are right! NINE INCH NAILS ROCKS!!!!!

[FroFroDaJimmyBoy]

You really changed my view on filesharing. I still don't intend to go torrenting every album I can, as I buying and collecting CDs is my main hobby, but I certainly won't look down on anyone who goes the download route anymore.

[xygni]

lol yeah don't think I download everything. I just bought rerelease copies of Appetite for Destruction and the Velvet Underground & Nico on vinyl, and I preordered the vinyl version of the special edition of Ten. I'm also waiting for an imported CD of Sound About You by FuzzFace. :)

[shion182]

Man Xygni, you are so damn right! You need to be up there with all those other music politics! You know, like Krist Novoselic and.....Steve...yeah, Steve.

[sonicpsycho13]

Unfortunately, I believe the godly MJK is opposed to filesharing, too. However, most artists make 25-50 cents per album sold. They really make money on concerts and merch, which you can't download.

[orangeglacier]

I have to disagree with your position on this, but Serenade is pretty awesome.

[xi0wnallx]

lol yes u did only say the good band

[xygni]

Stephen King's earlier work is good. It and Pet Cemetery and all that stuff. It's the last 10 years that he's become a corporate tool.

[TheClansman1109]

The problem is that with file-sharing, if the band doesn't give exclusive permission for a torrent to be put up, then it's illegal. And since the music is partially owned by the record companies, if the band comes in after-the-fact and says it's okay, the record company can basically say "fuck that we're suing their ass" and there isn't much the band can do about it.

[xygni]

It might be illegal, but just because something's illegal doesn't make it wrong.

[TheClansman1109]

Tell that to the lawyers. I'm not saying you're wrong, on the contrary. I'm just pointing out the legal truth here.  It's not always pretty.

[oneeyedlittleman]

you're right, making musicians starve isn't wrong.

[xygni]

The point is that it's not making them starve. Most musicians have other jobs, and they should since making music is not a job. The only artists that ever complain about filesharing are the ones who are already vastly rich. You'd be hard pressed to find independent and local bands against filesharing.

[oneeyedlittleman]

uhhh. yeah it is a job. I'm pretty sure jumping on stage and playing til my strings break qualifies as a job.

Am in one, and I'm against it. and very few artists are rich. the music companies take all of it for themselves, and give the artists just barely enough to live.

[themcnorris]

your awesome xygni!

wooo pirating music =D

[doshindude]

If I recall correctly, Dream Theater is somewhat ok with bootlegging/downloading of their stuff.

[Imadebaser901]

its pretty much only mike portnoy. John petrucci is kind of against it

[bjerhjinanikle]

It was JP Gaster (drummer for clutch) who said: "The reality is that an artist has to have a record go gold, before they are even going to see a dime. Bands put out 3 or 4 records on a label and never see a dime from record sales. So, it is not like people who are downloading would be putting a dollar in my pocket if they would have bought the record. The industry is set up so that the record company will immediately get paid from record sales. So...download all you want!!!"

[zoltanben90]

where did you get the list of people who are for file sharing?

[ericcartmannnnn]

unsubscribed

[TheNovanCritics]

You make a great point, and yes, that statement was a little (alot) out there. Being in a band myself, I love making music. Sure we gave jack-shit. But you're right about art, What I guess I should have said was that you should support your artist more, cause getting paid is always good! (I think every one can agree with that) Keep making vids!

[TheNovanCritics]

EDIT: We get*** jack shit

[eldiablo8713]

lol at fight club reanactment at the begginning

[GrievyMassacre]

Where did you get the idea that U2 support filesharing?!!! Do you know the current situation with their new album being released?

I can't take the moral high ground and claim to have never downloaded music but I do agree that it is illegal and should be.

[bignoisematt]

do green day support file sharing

[Tommalicious333]

ooo, do i hear my name is jonas in the background?

[xygni]

*sigh* Songs in order:

Yada Yada - That Handsome Devil

Spanish Caravan - The Doors

Sympathy for the Devil - The Rolling Stones

By the Monument - Maximo Park

My Name is Jonas - Weezer

Mr. Grieves - The Pixies

Lady - Lenny Kravitz

Up Around the Bend - Creedence Clearwater Revival

[fudgepuppy91]

Movies are worth the extra money for the quality and perhaps the cinema-experience. Games are worth the money because it's not a type of art that anyone can enjoy. But music is for everyone, so I'm totally for a free future were only the really commited artists that care about the music and not the money, gets exposed.

Fuck Eminem and all other bands that sees music as a job.

[sonicpotter2000]

So if I torrent SOAD's music they're fine with it? Kick ass! Add Dave Grohl to the list as I remember him saying he didn't have a problem with it as people were still enjoying his music. so that frees up Tenacious D, Foo Fighter, QotSA, and Nirvana.