@nachoKamacho666 boxing isn't dead. i'm from canada and just like in the states boxing has taken a back eat to the ufc but i'm currently traveling around east asia and i can tell first hand the majority of people don't care about the ufc at all where as manny has his own page in daily sport papers. i know that we in north america like to think we are the center of the univerese but if if its the same here as it is in euruope boxing will do just fine
@itstheowner tyson loved don king ... he said it himself they both used each other ... u give hell to don king .. but forget the other curput guys like arum ?
i dissagree...hes the best outside fighter ive seen he has decent inside skills i guess...but hes primarily an outside fighter one dimensional....ive never seen him going toe to toe for long periods of time...he stays on the outside and will go inside out of no where and get out again
Yes, Ray Robinson was a great fighter, no denying it. But maybe Ray wasn't as great as everyone these days thinks he is. Floyd has fought at least 13 world class guys in 38 fights. Robinson fought 110 guys w/over 10 L's. I like Ray, I like Floyd, & I'm just stating facts.
you make a good point...but look at the stats...it is the consensus that Walker Smith, Jr. aka Sugar Ray Robinson is the best ever, but he had 19 losses (vs 175 wins), you say the Sugar man fought multiple guys with 10+ losses, but look at how many fights overall theses guys had in their careers. The Bull, Lamotta had 19 losses (with 83 wins); Gene Fulmer had 6 losses with 50+ wins; Carmen Basilio had 16 losses (vs almost 60 wins). The common denominator, all those guys are hall of famers.
Fights aren't done the same they used to, they take months to set up. Robinson could fight a bum every 3 weeks. Give Floyd the type of bums that Robinson fought and he could fight every 3 weeks and have a record of 85-0. Anyone could be a fighter back then, its not like that these days. But Robinson did also fight some hall of famers, i give you that.
Bums, are you kidding me? Before he even lost to the Bull as a welter weight...I count FIVE hall of famers that he fought while running his record to 39-0; and that includes the ONLY man (that I know of) to hold 3 of all 8 titles at the time (no junior/super weight classes...in a time if you were the champ, you were champ, period), and that 3 out of 8 division champ was the 5'5" buzzsaw, Henry Armstrong (even if he was 30-something). You have a bum here or there, but come on, 5 HOF'ers
I give you the hall of famers, no argument. But you can't deny there are bums in there. I'm saying 4 yrs into his pro career Floyd didn't fight a guy with a record of 38-22-9 (Vic Dellicurti), Robinson did. And 10 yrs in, Floyd fought Oscar and Ricky, Robinson fought a bum (Billy Brown) w/a record of 53-29-6.
I didn't call Ray Robinson a bum. I said Robinson fought some dudes with some piss poor records, b/c back then anyone was allowed to fight. Yes, he fought hall of famers, but deep into his career he fought some bums. Fighters today fight bums at the beginning and build up experience. Some of Ray's bums were in the prime of his career, fighters today just don't do that. I'm saying Mayweather at 39-0 isn't going to fight a guy with 20 losses, niether would Oscar, or Cotto, or any top dog right now
@prettyboygonya are u kidding me robinson couldnt getta a title fight more than 70 victories into his career cause the mafia had influence on the boxing commission so plz get ur facts strait b4 u talk he fought people wit those records simply cuz no one would fight him nd besides a loss didnt mean as much back then than it does today b-cuz people fought so much so just b-cuz the guy lost ten fights(carmen basilio 56 wins 16 losses) it dont mean he was garbage cuz basilio was a hall of famer
Did you ever see Armstrong fight? Alot of people regurgitate what sportswriters say, and it's a common thing for writers to glorify the past. Through 40 fights, Mayweather has fought Genaro Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo twice, Gatti, De La Hoya, Hatton, and Marquez. Of those seven guys, 5 are definite HOF'ers, and one can make a case for all seven. That's not counting borderline guys that have held mutliple belts at multiple times like Judah and Jesus Chavez.
@yaiqab theres 2 hof there not 5!! where? when he foght oscar he looked like shit, he won by a hair could of gone either way!!! Juhda dropped him and no floyd fan ever mention that!! your saying armstrong in the same sentence with gayweather the biggest ducker n boxing!! terrible! sugar ray robinson won 170 fights before he lost one,THATS GREATNESS U IDIOT!!!!!! Archie Moore HUNDREDS OF FIGHTS, not 1 not 2 but over 300 fights! GAYWEATHER IS THE MODERDAY ROCKY MARCIANO!!!!!!!!
@yaiqab Yes, I saw Armstrong, he was a gutsy little dude.Genaro was washed up, I'll give you Corrales, Castillo deserved one of those fights, Gatti was exciting, but a human punching bag, along with Hatton, De La Hoya was also washed up, and Marquez was a lightweight, and a 36 year old one at that. Zab is a BUM. Floyd needs to fight his contemporaries: Pacquiao, Williams, Berto, Cintron, etc.
@prettyboygonya Really? Who are these 13 world class guys: 9 loss Baldomir, human punching bag Gatti, washed-up De La Hoya, etc? Robinson fought in an era where 10 losses was good. Cats fought a lot more. Floyd has the talent to be in the same conversation with Robinson, but has yet to accomplish the feats that Ray accomplished. As of now, Floyd isn't worthy to lick Ray's jockstrap, Robinson, or Leonard.
@prettyboygonya sugar ray fought ina different time where sometimes his opponent would have 15 to 20lbs on him at the weight in i could name 6 to 9 hall of famers that sugar ray robinson fought easily. they also often fought wit no time to rest ray robinson at one point had 4 fights in 1 month and more than 30 in one year!!! im not taking nothing away from mayweather i would put him in the top 7 greatest fighters of all-time but i dont think he would have beaten a prime sugar ray robinson at 147
Right b4 I watched this vid, I saw a vid sum guy made bashing Floyd about being compared to Ray Robinson. Floyd fought a guy w/18 L's,& a guy w/16 L's&,a guy w/15 L's. Robinson fought opponents w/more than 18 L's 57 times. Not to mention 53 other opponents w/ 10 - 17 losses.
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caintagangster 7 months ago
not as rich as flloyd lol
Sunshinecalie805sb 1 year ago
BOXING IS DEAD THANKS TOO THE UFC FUK YOU DON KING THE UFC IS RITCH BIOTCH
nachoKamacho666 1 year ago
@nachoKamacho666 boxing isn't dead. i'm from canada and just like in the states boxing has taken a back eat to the ufc but i'm currently traveling around east asia and i can tell first hand the majority of people don't care about the ufc at all where as manny has his own page in daily sport papers. i know that we in north america like to think we are the center of the univerese but if if its the same here as it is in euruope boxing will do just fine
Gfox350 6 months ago
pussssssssy he aint no money
mainevent608 2 years ago
@mainevent608 you definitely aint no money either i can guarantee that
tawandachristopher 2 years ago
@tawandachristopher correct
JonasFrimodt 2 years ago
@tawandachristopher U WOULD PROB RUBB THAT FAGATS DICK WOULDNT YOU
lahkidd 1 year ago
Ef Don King... he helped cause the fall of Tyson.
itstheowner 3 years ago 13
@itstheowner tyson loved don king ... he said it himself they both used each other ... u give hell to don king .. but forget the other curput guys like arum ?
hopelesscasewtf 1 year ago
FLOYD IS THE BEST BALANCED BOXER EVER.
countofmontifisto 4 years ago 3
ever!!, are u mad?
1robertthomas 3 years ago
Yeah... He really is...
kingtye07 3 years ago
i dissagree...hes the best outside fighter ive seen he has decent inside skills i guess...but hes primarily an outside fighter one dimensional....ive never seen him going toe to toe for long periods of time...he stays on the outside and will go inside out of no where and get out again
aschindler22 2 years ago
yeah i agree but Floyd is not at all a one dimensional fighter
eyezaya 2 years ago 2
i agree, great comments man
pbf316 4 years ago
Yes, Ray Robinson was a great fighter, no denying it. But maybe Ray wasn't as great as everyone these days thinks he is. Floyd has fought at least 13 world class guys in 38 fights. Robinson fought 110 guys w/over 10 L's. I like Ray, I like Floyd, & I'm just stating facts.
prettyboygonya 4 years ago 8
I agree.
ericmorrow 4 years ago
you make a good point...but look at the stats...it is the consensus that Walker Smith, Jr. aka Sugar Ray Robinson is the best ever, but he had 19 losses (vs 175 wins), you say the Sugar man fought multiple guys with 10+ losses, but look at how many fights overall theses guys had in their careers. The Bull, Lamotta had 19 losses (with 83 wins); Gene Fulmer had 6 losses with 50+ wins; Carmen Basilio had 16 losses (vs almost 60 wins). The common denominator, all those guys are hall of famers.
kjackson2k1 3 years ago
Fights aren't done the same they used to, they take months to set up. Robinson could fight a bum every 3 weeks. Give Floyd the type of bums that Robinson fought and he could fight every 3 weeks and have a record of 85-0. Anyone could be a fighter back then, its not like that these days. But Robinson did also fight some hall of famers, i give you that.
prettyboygonya 3 years ago
Bums, are you kidding me? Before he even lost to the Bull as a welter weight...I count FIVE hall of famers that he fought while running his record to 39-0; and that includes the ONLY man (that I know of) to hold 3 of all 8 titles at the time (no junior/super weight classes...in a time if you were the champ, you were champ, period), and that 3 out of 8 division champ was the 5'5" buzzsaw, Henry Armstrong (even if he was 30-something). You have a bum here or there, but come on, 5 HOF'ers
kjackson2k1 3 years ago
I give you the hall of famers, no argument. But you can't deny there are bums in there. I'm saying 4 yrs into his pro career Floyd didn't fight a guy with a record of 38-22-9 (Vic Dellicurti), Robinson did. And 10 yrs in, Floyd fought Oscar and Ricky, Robinson fought a bum (Billy Brown) w/a record of 53-29-6.
prettyboygonya 3 years ago
a bum????????
with 90 odd fights,back in boxings heyday??
A BUM?????
go learn something about the sport willya
cuntyballs07 3 years ago
I didn't call Ray Robinson a bum. I said Robinson fought some dudes with some piss poor records, b/c back then anyone was allowed to fight. Yes, he fought hall of famers, but deep into his career he fought some bums. Fighters today fight bums at the beginning and build up experience. Some of Ray's bums were in the prime of his career, fighters today just don't do that. I'm saying Mayweather at 39-0 isn't going to fight a guy with 20 losses, niether would Oscar, or Cotto, or any top dog right now
prettyboygonya 3 years ago
@prettyboygonya are u kidding me robinson couldnt getta a title fight more than 70 victories into his career cause the mafia had influence on the boxing commission so plz get ur facts strait b4 u talk he fought people wit those records simply cuz no one would fight him nd besides a loss didnt mean as much back then than it does today b-cuz people fought so much so just b-cuz the guy lost ten fights(carmen basilio 56 wins 16 losses) it dont mean he was garbage cuz basilio was a hall of famer
laguerre5 1 year ago
@prettyboygonya
those arent bums
rhibac 1 year ago
Did you ever see Armstrong fight? Alot of people regurgitate what sportswriters say, and it's a common thing for writers to glorify the past. Through 40 fights, Mayweather has fought Genaro Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo twice, Gatti, De La Hoya, Hatton, and Marquez. Of those seven guys, 5 are definite HOF'ers, and one can make a case for all seven. That's not counting borderline guys that have held mutliple belts at multiple times like Judah and Jesus Chavez.
yaiqab 2 years ago
@yaiqab theres 2 hof there not 5!! where? when he foght oscar he looked like shit, he won by a hair could of gone either way!!! Juhda dropped him and no floyd fan ever mention that!! your saying armstrong in the same sentence with gayweather the biggest ducker n boxing!! terrible! sugar ray robinson won 170 fights before he lost one,THATS GREATNESS U IDIOT!!!!!! Archie Moore HUNDREDS OF FIGHTS, not 1 not 2 but over 300 fights! GAYWEATHER IS THE MODERDAY ROCKY MARCIANO!!!!!!!!
lahkidd 1 year ago
@yaiqab Yes, I saw Armstrong, he was a gutsy little dude.Genaro was washed up, I'll give you Corrales, Castillo deserved one of those fights, Gatti was exciting, but a human punching bag, along with Hatton, De La Hoya was also washed up, and Marquez was a lightweight, and a 36 year old one at that. Zab is a BUM. Floyd needs to fight his contemporaries: Pacquiao, Williams, Berto, Cintron, etc.
MrN0Bias 1 year ago
Also, you would have to define "World Class" fighters that PBFloyd are fighting these days.
kjackson2k1 3 years ago
@prettyboygonya Really? Who are these 13 world class guys: 9 loss Baldomir, human punching bag Gatti, washed-up De La Hoya, etc? Robinson fought in an era where 10 losses was good. Cats fought a lot more. Floyd has the talent to be in the same conversation with Robinson, but has yet to accomplish the feats that Ray accomplished. As of now, Floyd isn't worthy to lick Ray's jockstrap, Robinson, or Leonard.
MrN0Bias 1 year ago
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MrN0Bias 1 year ago
@prettyboygonya sugar ray fought ina different time where sometimes his opponent would have 15 to 20lbs on him at the weight in i could name 6 to 9 hall of famers that sugar ray robinson fought easily. they also often fought wit no time to rest ray robinson at one point had 4 fights in 1 month and more than 30 in one year!!! im not taking nothing away from mayweather i would put him in the top 7 greatest fighters of all-time but i dont think he would have beaten a prime sugar ray robinson at 147
laguerre5 1 year ago
Right b4 I watched this vid, I saw a vid sum guy made bashing Floyd about being compared to Ray Robinson. Floyd fought a guy w/18 L's,& a guy w/16 L's&,a guy w/15 L's. Robinson fought opponents w/more than 18 L's 57 times. Not to mention 53 other opponents w/ 10 - 17 losses.
prettyboygonya 4 years ago