Protoss Units & Unit Summary - Heart of the Swarm Multi Player New Unit Preview

[desthmoneses]

The Tempest is retarded, its only role is being a third tier air unit to counter mutalisks. Protoss players won't even build phoenixes, good luck getting them to go all the way to tier three air to counter a mid game composition. It also only attacks one ground target at a time so it won't help against ground. Its also useless against terran and other protoss because they don't mass air. They might as well make the tempest a ground unit and call it a Thor, it would be more useful.

[Lyubimov89]

So they make a sphere thingy, a round thingy, and another sphere thingy... Wow! Oh, and one unit does nothing but copy other units. Blizzard, HELLO!!!

[Younara1]

............ Bring the reaver back!

[Adun4184]

@Younara1

Colossus = Reaver

[ppat9192]

@Adun4184 im diamond and thx for correcting me when i put devourer and meant defiler but the ultralisk was never a speed unit i think the best way to correct the problem is to make it so they can step over units like the collosus because of its size

burrow charge doesnt match the type of unit the ultralisk is it seems more like something a speedy unit would use

[Adun4184]

@ppat9192

I agree that walking over units would be more fitting for ultralisks, however colossi have thinner legs so units under them can still be selected without much difficulty. With ultras it seems that you could hide an infestor or something under it and it would be difficult for the opponent to target.

[ppat9192]

@Adun4184 1st of all lolz we are both such nerds

but i do agree that it would be a little bit difficult to notice but the ultra isnt big enough to hide a target as big as a fest and there arent really any important units that could be hidden underneath him

[Adun4184]

@ppat9192

lol yeah

[ppat9192]

@Adun4184 i say call a draw?

[Adun4184]

@ppat9192

indeed

[ppat9192]

@Adun4184 farewell adun4184 it was fun

[jamchew1982]

wow i thought the mothership was a crappy unit... the oracle is seriously bad

[jamchew1982]

man that david guy has a seriously annoying voice

[ppat9192]

so let me get this straight?

terran: got a redone goliath the helion can turn into a fire bat robot and an almost endless psi storm

zerg: ultra has a random ability that doesnt apply to him at all a flying devourer and an endless spawier

protoss:lost ms and carriers got a copycat machine that is a more expensive version of a unit a anti worker killing worker harrasment and got a amped up pheonix

way to go blizzard try to fuck up anymore?

[Adun4184]

@ppat9192

What league are you in anyway?

If you have ever used ultras you should have noticed that they are bulky and get stuck trying to reach their target. Burrow charge is going to be really useful because it will allow ultras to reach their target without dying right away. The viper isn't like the Devourer, it's more like a Defiler. It's good that they brought back dark swarm because it's hard for zerg to engage an army head-on. Also, the tempest is much needed to kill mass muta.

[howlgaming]

Tempest sucks.

Replicant sucks.

Oracle kinda sucks.

Yay Protoss!

[dragonrune1000]

So there only adding one unit to the protoss. I think that is just slightly lazy 

[secretspectre]

@dragonrune1000 I thought Heart of the Swarm would give zerg the most. Its just a reason to buff terran.

[deathratrald]

@shahfamilyhomevideos my question as well

[redrex7819]

i wanna know if a replicant can copy a replicant

[callofduty947]

CARRIERS WHY WHY >=< FUCK U

[NinjaGinger95]

Tempest looks very good. Where's your mutalisk rush now?! WHERE IS IT!!!

[HeyDjoulsExtreme]

f*ck off zerg wasn't OP enough

[Seanze329]

yay nexus abilities! Im very excited yet a bit scared.

[funnyguyagency]

Farewell to carriers T.T

Hello to return of big blueballs :D

[TheSymbian86]

Why removing the Carriers?

Wtf is is going on with Blizzard, you destroyed World of Warcraft and now you are gonna

destroy SC2 to. THX

[Kamikaz3Duck]

@TheSymbian86 their reason for removing carriers is that they feel it doesnt have a solid role in the game

[Kamikaz3Duck]

@TheSymbian86 and carriers are really cool but they are hardly used

[romandoggie]

@TheSymbian86 carriers never did anything o.o, i think you should be happy that you get something that can effectively deal with mutas which is what most toss complain about

[RBEO22]

So they brought back a way to mind control workers?

[FulmineNero]

The carrier will be cut out of the game? o.O

[halo456ization]

men the carrier alweis has suck¡

[halo456ization]

-_- motrhershiop



[tomk887]

because the protoss deathball needs to teleport if its losing to reform deathball. wooo

[DrNGinfan1]

Who really uses mass reapers (0:26) ? didnt that stategy die out when the reapers were overnerfed.

[BaxterXenon]

7:40 I'm pretty sure the people who were cheering about the Hydralisk and Banelings were Korean zerg rushers.

[BaxterXenon]

Blizzard thanks for removing the Mothership, it was sh*t.

Blizzard fuck you for removing the Carriers.

Just turn the Motherships into Arbiters.

Tempest better be good.

[GoDAnimations]

bye carriers and motherships D;

[odc2006]

hallucinations are use-less if the replicant comes into the game :D

[BursucNorbi]

no my lovley mother ship :(((((((((((

[LostWaterProducter]

I would prefer for the Replicant to automatically make free hallucinations that merge with the army absorbing enemy fire or a shield area healing unit.

[n00bz00rd]

YAY Corsairs are back :D

[GeneralDarkwater]

Play as Protoss. Use Terran units : |

So Protoss gets a battle cruiser, access to enemy tech and a non-raiding raider. : |

[1987Challenger3]

8:12 Alot of Terran Jews

[WuTangMMA]

Man I like the looks of the Tempest, but losing the Carrier and the Mommaship? Those were my two favorite units from my favorite race. I know they don't get used a ton, but when I get to use them I love them. I never really see people using Battlecruisers either. I can tell you I'll never use the Replicant. Oracle looks pretty cool though.

[quizzisation]

How about bring back the overload ability from SCII alpha? Toss can kill mass mutas just fine and we can still have the carrier.

[itzWillx3]

wow.....take out replicant and put mommaship back

[LostWaterProducter]

@itzWillx3 Indeed. :D

Bring back the old mothership! v=zVDxxJaBmKs

[spinier]

the audience sucks

[ForeverGoth]

Hey, because the protoss race is so s hit, is so weak a ss and so ineffective, that they needed to make a unit to copy all the other units. . .wow

[shahfamilyhomevideos]

what i want to know is that if a replicant can copy a drone or probe

[ZaChKiLlSiNhAlO]

@shahfamilyhomevideos probably :-) but i think a burrow moving baneling would be VERY useful :-D cause us zerg now get less detection cause vipers can give detection but i don't think they have them :-\ which means spore crawlers are a requirement now ugh ridiculous :-P

[Thecheezgod1]

@shahfamilyhomevideos it can

[TheRazorHound]

@shahfamilyhomevideos Yeah! Fuck building them at the Nexus!

[skifreestyle4lfe]

@shahfamilyhomevideos and if you can copy a drone, is the tech tree enabled?

[viddecool]

@shahfamilyhomevideos It can..

[DemonKing671]

Honestly, people complain about zergs banelings but if you play them they are expencive! Firstly, unlike siege tanks you end up having one shot with a squshy unit. Well good players may use them well, they don't do that much damage vs. high hp units. Secondly, there expensive you end up paying for the zergling and the baneling for each! Lastly, simple shields or a command center can block them if there massed.

[MultiSnoopDawg]

@Garsemor It's hive tech... so if you can't get a raven or else out before hive; well you kinda suck

[48tank]

Ok so if they take carrier away why don't they take out the bc ??^^

[ImAlwaysBeaming]

@48tank because we dont get a new air unit stupid

[48tank]

@ImAlwaysBeaming yea but then can replace it <3 herp derp

[TheMolesterJester]

Ok top comment is an idiot. It costs 200/200 you really think a toss is gunna have the money even mid game to copy enough banelings for it to matter? I am a zerg player and I don't even think that's a big deal. Idiots. Replicant is pretty much meant for massive units/specialist.

[Gr8axeK0]

OMFG THAT NEW PROTOSS AIR IS JUST BS LOL and banelings moving while burrowed too

[Garsemor]

Now I'm propably going to get flack for this but the borrowed moving banelings seem OP.

Banelings, borrow and tuneling claws are fairly easy to get and will force missile towers, cannons and spor crawlers much sooner than usually needed and will lock down army movement until overseers, ravens or observers can get on the field.

[BTIsaac]

WHat I'm thinking is, why can't they just keep the carrier and tone down the tempest? Stupid question I know but I kinda like the idea behind the tempest, and at the same time, I'd hate to see the carrier go.

[lukeanatr]

NO MOTHERSHIP!??

[ReachManA239]

I hope enough people are happy with the changes so they all SHUT UP.

[CapoeiristanoBrasil]

@ReachManA239 yeah i was loooking at 7:40 u could see people all happy lol

[ReachManA239]

@CapoeiristanoBrasil BANELINGS MOVE WHILE BURROWING?! -_-

[CapoeiristanoBrasil]

@ReachManA239 lol i yeah XD

[ReachManA239]

@CapoeiristanoBrasil Gah... just when you think it gets worse.... it gets worse than before >.>

[CapoeiristanoBrasil]

@ReachManA239 crazy stuff huh now the ultralisk unborrow and just basically kind of blinks and pam!

[Aetrion]

Replicant just seems stupid...

[njfife14]

That Oracle ship is amazing.... how is that not part of the ball of death, that is great for shutting down defense. Also you have to have UNITS there to defend your minerals, that is tough.

[knedlicek22]

Can i have Protoss SCVs and build myself sum Terran stuffz?

[MasonStormm]

PROTOSS GOT DICKED OVER

[GoombaDaddy]

oracle :) tempest :( replicator WTF ghost cloak cost :) reaper regen :( battlecruiser speed :( baneling burrow move :( hydra speed upgrade :) corrupter siphon WTF nexus defense :( recall :) david kim's voice :(

[killerpenguin360]

id trade tempest for carriers any day

[GoombaDaddy]

@killerpenguin360 meaning, you want to keep carrier or keep tempest?

[jdudeism]

Tempest?- Balls of Psionic Storms

Replicant?-...New dark archon

Oracle?- NEW RAIDER!!! YES!!!

[NYRangersDude12]

This is stupid oracle for the mothership really? Their should be options to change out the oracle for the mothership.

[NYRangersDude12]

So wait are the carriers gone for good?

[Eggers2007]

stop whining, Protoss get technical units, they're supposed to be the most technical race. we can whine about actual balance once this enters beta (there's a few things i'm not sure how they'll work, but the same can be said for WoL).

also, Nexus recall is going to be a massive game-changer, of all the new things I think that'll be the most useful (other than burrowed baneling movement, that's nuts)

[Hippo2626]

To sum up, Terran gets a major buff, Zerg gets a balance and a super imba baneling burrow, and protross gets retarded shit.

Seems about right

[itrencher222]

This makes me a little angry...

1. Protoss my favorite race gets more nerfed than anything

Oracle > Carrier? Sure blizzard, but only once everyone knows how to use them, and thats assuming you can get them out early, which you can't, because they require a starport, which requires a gateway and cyberc... lol nice try there.

REALLY, the Replicant is too expensive to use more than twice, and isn't even really that useful unless there are specific circumstances. Tempest probably will need buff.

[tomk887]

wait so if you are protoss, you don't like how the battle is going and your getting owned, you can just teleport out any time? wtf

[Michownage1337]

terran stays op no shi easy way to counter  this game use head dumbass

[freezewindow1]

1:00 welcome to low-mid bronze..... 4v4

[TheEsko1990]

fcking tards took mothership from us -.- my life for aiur!

[Fleshgin]

Mothership is really fun in 3v3 and 4v4.

[ThEuLtImAtEsPaZmAn]

Come on guys........... this is supposed to be a ZERG expansion.... and the Zerg are getting the worst of the expansion so far..... honestly now.....

[IntronDepot1]

@ThEuLtImAtEsPaZmAn Fuck you.

[ThEuLtImAtEsPaZmAn]

@IntronDepot1 You seem mad.

[GRRStarcraft]

So the oracle has been designed to deal TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE to the opponent's economy

[MikeNobez]

carriers are my favorite unit tho

[Ryudouu]

DTs (cheasiest and easiest to use unit in the game), pheonixes, and buffed warp prisms which can not only transport units, but also serves as a warp station. Also warp technology fundamentally makes protoss a raiding race, and warping units into bases with pylons and spotting observers.

No raiding options? Riiiiiight. Forever the easy race.

[TapiKoks]

Zerg is fucked up even more in HoS. Time to change to terran

[FalkonX3000]

Zerg always get buff and they still bitching.

[MeatBusiness]

@FalkonX3000 lol your comment is the best

[IntronDepot1]

@FalkonX3000 Cause people who love safety nets and play Zerg. People who like options play Terran or Protoss.

[BaxterXenon]

@FalkonX3000 Zerg gets new unit, Leviathan. Shits out other Zerg units randomly and can only be affected by level 3 Weapons that are not from Zerg faction (Meaning Zerg have to neuroparisite someone to damage it by the least. Zerg are still bitchin.

[JDivinorumVideo]

So Protoss gets a Tempest even though the Phoenix owned Mutas. Zerg has such terrible anti-air, this is going to be ridiculous.

[carcarinusplumbeus]

I feel like the replicant is pretty usless because of his cost, in the example they showed should have been more costly effective to warp a bunch of zelot charge, the only use I can think of  is to copy ghost and then amp on the opponent's ghost but to do so you will need a micro very much better than your opponent...

[UCMGTWOClan]

IF I CAN"T CARRIER SPAM THEN MY BALLS WILL EXPLODE OUT MY HEAD

[NukeSocks]

Entomb is a damn stupid idea. If you can disable defences, you'd might as well bring a couple of units to do some damage to their workers.

[Asmodeus386]

mothership we will miss you D:

[MrRojvan]

when he just said, theres nothing much to do against many mutas, am i the only one thinking of archons that really killed all mutas? i mean like, 2 archons could get 10 mutas...

[Lndmk227]

Replicant: Dumb. I'd rather have seen a light mech anti-armored vs. ground unit, splash vs. light air to balance them better and supplement Stalker's AA.

Tempest: I like this unit. Its AOE is OMGWOW! (WAY OP in this iteration) and the Protoss need a strong ground attacker from the air.

Oracle: Wow. This will be ABUSED THE HELL out of. Of all the new units, I think this is the one that we ought to worry about balance-wise. *Clickclickdone* No other race can pull it off that easily....

[SinnohX]

@Lndmk227 I agree with you on everything! But I think the mineral-blocking ability of the Oracle is useless if there's no static defenses around, in which case you can just send in some air units or a transport full of units to wipe out the workers.

[kirbyman1kanden7pf]

lmao it's disruption web all over again cept better I guess

[TheNandopedro]

now zerg no use mass muta vs protoss

[LezThanhuman101]

can u use replicant like dark archon? BRING BACK THE TRIPLE RACE ARMY STRATEGY

[kai2698]

what's up with the "making room" for the new units? I want MORE units!

[mat2th]

i fell like the replicant really won't work

[TheStillenacht]

so... a seeing as how sc2 supply wont allow another 200 food for another race... replicant seems a lot less awesome... not to mention the difficulty of getting a defenseless, high priority, 200/200 costed unit into an enemy main without it being sniped.

an expensive, t3 counter to a t2 unit that only counters it when they engage in a straight up battle... joy. I totally always wanted an expensive slow counter to the fastess harass unit in the game.

and a harass unit countered by 2 rines...

[kriszium]

Hydra speed! YEEEEEAAAHH!

[moviemaster2010]

this is so stupid, carriers void rays phoenix stalkers high temps and archons all counter air so well.

[moviemaster2010]

ummmm i have never had probs with late game zerg air...........

[ArsArma]

dont cut the carrier... just let us have both...

[leviticus311]

The ever popular balance strategy for Protoss... if we don't like it, we're just gonna remove it. God I hate this dev team.

[gabe228]

The oracle is crazy, its way better than the rading units of the other races. Fucking gona spam that shit on zerg

[MrPedoTV]

banlings can move while burrowed thats bull shit

[linenlines]

@MrPedoTV cloaked banshees are bullshit too, and we have to get detection or we die

same goes for burrowed banelings

[TheGreatRakatan]

@MrPedoTV thats awesome. Zerg needs some love

[TheGreatRakatan]

Oracle looks like corsair



[FalkonX3000]

@MrPedoTV yeh, just watch your mineral line. Oh wiat, you cant, they're burrowed.

[MultiSnoopDawg]

@MrPedoTV bullshit in to good or to bad? ither way, i agree

[third6891]

I never saw my self say this line, ever!

But I just lost my will to buy heart of the swarm.. because they removed the carrier.. and gave toss more fucked up uninteresting units :/

[Lucitaur]

I really don't care that much about Mothership, but Carrier?

Why the hell did Carriers have to get removed?

It would be better if they removed Protosses balls instead of Carriers (or whatever they have). >_>

[rockaboy3000]

The reason why Carrier and Mothership are gonna get removed is cuz they did not end up like they should have been... Because last time i checked, Mothership is the size of a frikking small city... And it cant kill a single marine with a one hit... Same with carrier, it is severely underpowered if you have a few.

[Brearios117]

does the corrupter do damage with siphon?

[HaloPokemon5Master]

Why why why why replace the carrier? It's an integral part of the Protoss fluff. Did they just not like having capships anymore?

[diesopain]

Replicant - New Dark Archon "Mind-Control"

Tempest - should replaced Motherships with vortex

Carriers are good Air to base Sieges. Remove that weakens the Protoss Siege capabilities and should remain as the capital ship.

Oracle - Should not replace anything and be a new unit by itself....

[MaximumJizz]

Ppl say the protoss didnt have balls now they have 3 pairs

[MrSexysPizzaria]

Alright, I've gota say, taking out the carrier is taking out a big part of just being protoss. Next they're gona take out the high temp....

[Lndmk227]

@MrSexysPizzaria -- Difference being: High Templar contributes to the Protoss war strategy. Carrier was just a big money-sink for an underwhelming unit. Tempest looks like it will be a very effective and viable unit late-game, since Protoss could use more powerful single-target ground attacks from the air.

I hope this means air power could be considered for the future. Now Terrans just need a buffed Battlecruiser and maybe we'd see air wars....

[supersuitguy]

Tempest = air reaver

[GRRStarcraft]

CORRECTION: Oracle = Arbiter + Corsair

[GRRStarcraft]

Oracle = Arbiter

[MultiNat11]

OMG ! Scar, The Cyon Fighter is Back ! ! o..O

[MrLoveandlaughter]

Enjoy SC2 while it's still fun..

[2lateforyou]

The Nexus Recall ability sounds golden, nothing over powered about that especially since the protoss are limited to essentially half the units that any other race can get, and otherwise would have an incredibly difficult time setting up attacks and not having any defense based on this.

[2lateforyou]

Fixed cloak durration sounds like a reasonable change; Reaper health regeneration sounds a little too out of context for the terran to be a justifiable change; Battlecruiser speed boost during cooldown doesn't (immediately) sound like a bad idea; Baneling Burrow move (holy shit); Hydra speed upgrade (that's just ventage SC coming back ;D); Corruptor Siphon ability sounds bizzare indeed; The Nexus defensive ability to turn one's structures into defensive structures is up for grabs...

[wizzzer1337]

Terrible, Terrible damage!

[Tohones]

Is it just me or does the Oracle seems like the Corsair 2.0?

[Stewie5791]

Tempest{s better than Mothership :$

[Providence932]

I totally jizzed



[pwetkopogi]

protoss thor?



[weejin22]

@pwetkopogi Replicant cant replicate massives

[SatensL0veChild]

can u copy a worker and change from toss to terran or zerg?

[SrJoSeZ]

Protoss need? Its all calculated from the beginning... Blizzard are " hidding " units for future expansions.

[Legonis21]

Replicant (200-200) -> copy marine (50-0) -> lose

[AbduCola]

Everyones crying about the Carrier when its just sat there not being built. It looks like giant shoe and its terrible.

[vithaj92]

@AbduCola It's a huge part of the starcraft fluff, it's the most iconic unit in the whole game along with lings. We wanted them to buff it instead of cutting it.

[AbduCola]

@vithaj92 Fair enough

[master19822]

wait does that mean u can copy drones and scvs?

[DrPooMonster]

yessssssss!!!!!! hydra speed uprade

[Phyre112]

Replicant -> copy scv -> chrono on reactored Baracks -> win.

[Nyocurio]

@Phyre112 haha that made me lol

[illyas1]

new zerg upgrades on the hive? meh if i make it that far in the game

[maccajoe]

man terran get a mini thor but thor does not get cut, but toss get carrier and mothership swapped out soniamdisapointed.jpg

[maccajoe]

fucking stupid cutting out the carrier, starcraft is not starcraft without the carrier

[DixieNormas07]

@maccajoe They should have just kept the carrier and buffed it so its not a giant hunk of shit

[Supernerd250]

Zerg baneling hydra and corrupter upgrades, as if Zerg isn't op enough

[SolidFake]

copy tanks

make haluzinazions of it

maximum trolling

[ilikehugsandturtlez]

Replicant-> copy scv -> build command centre -> win

[emdeck80]

"protoss suffers from not having raiding/harras units" thats why we dont give them harras unit for killing workers, we give them flying caster...

[SkullCapper]

Replicator...copy zergling...use it...install fear into your enemies...get cooked by Hellion Firebat thingie...Game Over...