130 ton Loaded Hopper Car

[insylem]

Why would some one WANT to intentionally derail a train?

[dniwebdesign]

@insylem All sides here have de-railers on them so if the brakes fail the cars will roll to the end and de-rail before they enter the main line, which would cause a lot more safety issues. They are a primary safety feature of the rail road.

[denzigmarten]

awesome

[MrTechProdutions]

speed it up!

[Southerntreatment]

cool!

[watajob]

That's the problem with derailers. They work. :)

[dasy2k1]

good video of a scotch block in action (the Americans call it a derail but this side of the Atlantic the word derail is solely a verb)

generally here we only use scotch blocks as temporary solutions or for sidings that are used once in a blue moon

Trap points (switch to nowhere) are the preferred way of derailing runaway wagons

[pwalpar]

They do work remarkably well

[fr8ARTruleZ]

So... how do they get the train car(s) back on the track?

[derailexpert]

@fr8ARTruleZ Mobile Crane and a coupler lifting sling.

[fr8ARTruleZ]

@derailexpert oh I see. Thanks for the info.

[Tjita1]

In sweden we use a thing called a brake shoe, or sometimes two of them connected together with a rod, one on each rail. This doesn't derail the axle, but rather stops it from rotating and thus causes the car to stop. To protect main lines from runaway cars on a siding we do however use a fixed blocking device operated in much the same way as a switch, and if there is enough speed (or rather enough energy) the car(s) will indeed derail.

[numbersmandan]

And it did what it was designed to do! Stop runaway railcars.

[Aaronlamb1]

I used to work for RJ Croman and 90% of the derailments we worked was from Workers forgetting the derails lol

[apcander]

Putz, no melhor momento do vídeo o cara muda o ângulo de visão! Estragou tudo :(

[Starfield1959]

Hey Herman The German !!! Not everyone in the USA is an idiot.

[aixacharles]

why?

[digimaks]

Americans are real mean to railroad system.... "Just derail the oncoming train"- every siding has a derail with a KEY LOCK on it! LOL!!!!!!!! That is just nuts! This is never used on Asian or European railroads. Any busy siding is closed off by trackswitches by dispatcher.

But this.... What if dispatcher switches a track by mistake and lead the train onto the derail? Or some railworker forget to take one of those off the track??? It can cause very bad crash! You guys are nuts.....

[conhopper78]

@digimaks Of course we have these in Europe! We just dont have keys for them, we switch these things electronically!

[Shirehorse148]

@conhopper78 no point for a power derail on a hole in the wall industry out in the middle of nowhere.

[conhopper78]

@Shirehorse148 We have these electronically switched derailers on every mainline access track, where sidings bear the danger of a runaway freight car onto the mainline.

[conhopper78]

@Shirehorse148 Oh, and by the way... there is no "middle of nowhere" here in Germany. One more reason for such radical security measures. And thats the reason aswell that we were just been able to have just half of the country network high speed compatible right now. We have to plan&search free space to build, while the Frenchmen have wide "middle of nowhere" areas to plow some high speed tracks through.

[1800isbest]

@digimaks we have these in most maintanence places for wagons and locos etc in england

[ozzirt]

@digimaks You have missed the point completely. These are used to safeguard oncoming traffic in the event of a runaway wagon, or human error with wagons being shunted in sidings. Human error is almost always what causes shunted wagons to drift out onto the mainline.

Having to jack a wagon back on the line is far preferrable to causing a very expensive and often deadly smashup.

[12myoung]

@ozzirt dude it aint called a wagon, its called a railcar, a piece of rolling stock or a frieght car, or in this case a hopper. get it right.......

[ozzirt]

@12myoung Are you the duty idiot today, or did you suddenly just get the urge to make a fool of yourself in front of a world audience.

All non motive rollingstock are wagons, and derails are not solely for hopper wagons, you damned clothcock. Go back to playing with your trainset.

[12myoung]

@ozzirt Its called rolling stock, or frieght cars in this instance. Only those people not from the US call then wagons. Sorry sir but in the USA their are no wagons on railroads. They do not call them tht.

[ozzirt]

@12myoung You are determined to show your ignorance aren't you, Rolling stock is a collective term,... a single piece of rolling stock is a wagon. Freight cars are just that, for freight, passenger wagons or more commonly passenger cars, are not freight cars, but they are still wagons.

The correct term for a singular piece of rolling stock, of any kind,... either freight, passenger, maintenance, or test, whether it be two axle or bogie, is a wagon....

[simulatorman]

@ozzirt Well now, when I hear the word wagon, I think of Conestoga.

[ozzirt]

@simulatorman If you were at at some wild west display you'd probably be right. That would be as stupid as me thinking a "Hopper" was a grass hopper, or a "flat" is a deflated tyre

[simulatorman]

@ozzirt With all due respect sir, I am not Austrailian and my frame of reference is different. You will have to excuse me. This video should have been named 130 ton loaded open wagon. I learned something today so thank you for your enlightenment.

[simulatorman]

@ozzirt Just in case your interested, view Ely Thomas Shay #2 on youtube. I'm the little kid.

[ozzirt]

@simulatorman You are really lucky to have video of that time. All I have from the 60s is a photo taken of a 400 Class narrow gauge Beyer Peacock Garrett in our local yard taking water with two of the local Kennedy brothers as Driver and Fireman.

I used to haunt the yard waiting for them as I knew if there was any shunting to be done I could always get a cab ride around the yard sitting on Don's Crib box out of the way.

[sunshine0290]

@12myoung here here!!

[SkateboarderRobley]

LMAO. Some body is dumbass that left it there.

[patton223]

thumbs up if u searched this after the movie unstoppable !!!

[ch00bz0rzz]

so where do they use those derailers, what about the bumber things at the end of tracks

[Mcoov]

@ch00bz0rzz They are used at the opposite end of the siding, in order to prevent spotted cars from rolling onto the main line. They can also be used to deal with runaway cars, but it would be a lot messier in the end.

[jexus23]

@ch00bz0rzz what are the bumbper things called

[ch00bz0rzz]

@jexus23 i don't know =s

[jexus23]

@ch00bz0rzz haha me neither

[UP9390]

@jexus23 read description idiot, look next time at description

[kelvintwt]

whats with that cut in the video?

[railstoruin]

OH man, camera change at the worst moment!

[SteffenReichel]

@railstoruin Why worst? The yellow plate on the rail top lifts up the rim and a sideways angles deflector guides the upcomming flange from inside over the yellow plate to the outside of the rail - causing a complete derail of the axle

[tarmac2001]

Although a minor derailment, I hate to think of how much it'd cost to repair the truck of the car and the damage done to that part of the track let alone the cost to rerail the car and the hold up of other rail traffic if this happened on a revenue rail operation. The total cost would get into the 5 or even the 6 figures pretty instantly.

[rocintrucker83021227]

@tarmac2001 Its not about money. Derails are installed to save lifes and to prevent worse accidents. Most all siding tracks have them to stop minor roll aways like that from ending up on the main line. That derailment was very minor and likely did little or no damage to the track or car. They were problbey able to pull that car back on with a rerail frog and locomotive. Mabe a dozzer too.

[tarmac2001]

@rocintrucker83021227 Your right about that, derailers are put in to avoid way worst accidents that can involve loss of life and damage in the millions of dollars. I was mostly just focused on the damage done in the video, but the cost to repair damage like that is just a drop in the bucket compared to this being a result of a major collision or chemicals being spilled.

[Bartman1764]

1 word for that and thats KOOL!

[craig29t]

Sorry I see now my bad

[craig29t]

Out of curiosity why did it derail off a tiny bag?

[epistte]

@craig29t That is a steel block that it attached to the rail to prevent collisions.

[Krause12689]

You guys who have no clue about railroading, this was taken out of a video for new hires to demonstrate how portable de-rails work. They didn't do it just for fun.

[derailexpert]

@Krause12689 Actually it was a test conducted for product evaluation. And you're right. We didn't do it for fun.... But it was fun.

[jorasave]

@Krause12689 what is this test for? what are they measuring?

[Krause12689]

@jorasave They were testing portable derails. Derails are placed in classification yards to prevent run-away cars.

[jorasave]

@Krause12689 oh I see, so basically is a emergency brake right? now I understand thank you

[Krause12689]

@jorasave Pretty much a worse case scenario option. You're welcome

[The5150Clown]

@Krause12689 I know that one! When I started with burlington northern back in 1990 Seattle washington, they showed a video of what happens when a car is shunted too hard

[detroitsports77]

@Krause12689 yeah and run over one on the job and your in deep shit!

[detroitsports77]

@Krause12689 or call the maintenance guys have them rerail it and then shove the car in the rip track before anyone above the yardmaster knows about it.

[fyadcorp]

@detroitsports77 yes

[lrichardm]

What would there be to hide? The derail worked as intended and the car derailed? What more is there to see?

[robertgift]

Just when it hits the derailer, they show the other view.

They did not show the actual derailment mechanics.

Why not?

Really stupid editing, unless done for a reason.

[robertgift]

Why change views right at the moment of derailment, morons?

Really stupid.

Or are you hiding proprietary data?

[mrke8ting]

What is the point in derailing a car such as what we just seen, unpurpose like that?

[ccoraxfan]

@mrke8ting

This is to prevent the car from rolling into an area where it could cause an accident. It's a backup safety device.

[derailexpert]

@mrke8ting Protection of the mainline and/or work areas. Think of it as a last-chance lock-out tag-out device for railcars.

[derail14]

sometimes they get busted up bad it depends on the weight of the car or engine.

[acelafan123]

does the derailer break after a derailment?

if not then did it break the derailer this time?

[superduty7979]

Damn I want a job that lets me derail cars on purpose with out getting fired for 6 months to a year. Where do I apply?

[derailexpert]

Not the one in the video. ALDON does have a 2-way portable derail. There is a video of it on YouTube. See my channel.

[Automcanic]

same thing

[1fiddy3]

that was violent

[derailexpert]

You should see it in person.

[okzoia]

This was fascinating, a rarity, and I hope to see more like this. Thanks loads for posting it!

[derail14]

This vid is a test to see if the derail works proper, These types of DERAILS are only effective at slow speeds, Split point derails are effective at any speed.

[derailexpert]

Split point derails aren't portable. This is a portable fast-attaching derail test.

[IAmAVeryFatMan]

omg!!! a real live derailment. i've only seen maybe 6 or 7 on youtube. you know anywhere else with major live footage of trains derailing?

[JoaoMario24]

type on google n see if u find any. :D

[GTN3703]

wow.... footage like this is extremely rare, cant wait to see any more you have