Well, I have my macbook pro set up in my future bathroom. I'd like to be watching this while I do it because I've never done this before. Thanks for the video!
@AsktheBuilder this is from wiki, so the mileage may vary on it's validity but, "The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid"."
I'm from Texas and my dad has always pronounced the word like "sodder". Looks a lot like the Middle English version. We talk real good in Texas. ;-)
No matter how many times I read this kind of stuff in a book nothing beats watching a video like this - I've got to solder a copper pipe stuck ten feet up an external wall - this vid has real value. Many thanks.
My joint that I am soldering is upside dowm. Will the solder pull up into the fitting? Also the fitting is heavyer/thicker then the copper pipe. Will this still work?
@Bushougoma I hate to say it, but you're wrong. The flux keeps the copper from oxidizing as the heat rises. Capillary attraction - you studied this in high school chemistry - is what pulls the solder into the joint - even upside down.
I'm having no trouble soldering, but a heck of a time trying to take apart soldered joints. The same solder that melted into the fitting doesn't seem to want to melt out. What do you think it going on?
Hi, i have butane/propane blow torch and the thing that i find difficult is that when i move the blow torch away the solder doe not melt i have to keep the blow torch there on the joint... but i know as u were saying that the blow torch shouldn't be there and the hot joint should melt the solder... what am i doing wrong?
question my boyfriend watched some videos on how to do this and from what i can see he has did everything you have said to do and still can not get a solid solder. He is a pretty good mr fix it and isnt stupid so we cant seem to figure out why it leaks still
@mommyofamiracle0908 Oh, that's an easy one. You're not doing it right. Two likely causes: 1. The copper is not clean 2. You're not getting the pipe and fitting hot enough so the solder flows into the joint. DON'T put the solder on the joint while the torch is there. Watch the video again several times.
Please stop calling it "Sodder". It's solder, as in older with an "s". How do you get that name sodder?
And my credentials: I've been a cable jointer for 30 years soldering Aluminium, Copper, Brass, Steel (yes, steel!) and Lead wiping.
I like that you use flux instead of just multi core solder though as the heating can cause oxidisation which won't let the copper tin probably, so it's important the flux covers the whole area to be soldered.
@tammas2000 if you live in the US, then the correct way to pronounce it is by saying the 'o' as in 'a' in car but stressed... like you write it "Sodder"
@rusovich1999 Clean the copper and get it cherry red hot. Apply the silver solder. After you accomplish this, I ask that you consider buying a book my Aunt Clara authored: Professor Phonics Gives Sound Advice
imdarkfire007 I understand your frustration, trust me on this. I tried soldering and brazing for the first time about 10 years ago and I was livid to say the least. But, when routine practice, and remembering the steps you are taught, you WILL be successful. One thing I learned a long time ago, when it comes to copper pipe/tubing, CLEANLINESS is GODLINESS! The cleaner your pipe and fittings, the better success you will have! Keep at it, you'll get it! Good luck!
Well, it will be very interesting to see if you continue to be a quitter. Many of us can't wait to see if you watch this video one more time and then go put what you saw into practice. We then hope you'll come back and tell us about your success. Remember, quitters never win and winners never quit.
agreed......i have not given up, but after two weeks of fails im really frustrated. but if i still have issues, then i have high hopes for the new fittings with the solder built in. and btw......im an alabama fan, i know all about winning :P
Crimson Tide! Be sure the pipe and fitting are shiny clean. Add small amount of flux. Heat for 20 seconds before applying solder. Pipe needs to be hot enough to melt solder on its own without the torch in place.
yea the tide :) that was likely my problem.....i was touching the solder to the pipe and taking the torch to it. ill give it a shot next time. im considering flex-on piping though, will allow me to drain and lift my water heater whe i do flooring work.....as opposed to being stationary due to copper pipes.
Thanks for the really useful video Tim. Qucikc question, do you know how much pressure that joint will hold ? I am looking to build a new launcher for our water rocket using some copper pipe. I usually test our piping to 150psi
One point here to make is if you solidering refrigeration lines, Don't put flux inside the pipe because it will leave acid in the system. Acid inside the system will eat compressors up.
I thought most AC and refrigeration lines are brazed not soldered. And you flow nitrogen through the lines as you braze. Isn't that the methodology? I'm not an HVAC or refrigeration expert by any means.
One problem: 15% brazing requires much more heat and when used in repairing applications usually what will happen is the heat nessacary to use 15% will melt the 50/50 away,
It doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. All that matters is if the joint doesn't leak and there's minimal flux residue inside the piping. Go to the Copper Development Association's web site to discover what else you might not know about soldering.
Good video, I'll be practising this over the weekend. Recently I did some work in two different areas using plastic SpeedFit connectors (pretty good) and pre-soldered copper connectors...it would be nice to replace them all with a more professional finish. A few months ago a qualified plumber put in our central heating boiler, the pipework looks like it will last a million years, top quality pro-solder job.
Many Thanks for clarifying vertical soldering by heating the upper fitting to induce capillary action of flux and solder upward. Your video, and watcher comments saved the day.
I would love to have a busmans holiday in america... We dont solder that different realy... we mostly use fittings with the solder already in and mostly use a self cleaning powerflow flux, however, we do use the fittings shown on your video, end feed we call them - we would "tin" the end of the pipe with solder first, then re-flux and insert into the fitting and solder as normal. We use propane with a Rothenberger SUPER FIRE 2 torch. Tell ya what, I will do a video for ya!. :)
Good advice. But realize that not one in 10,000 homeowners would ever attempt to work on their own AC units. First, they don't possess the specialized tools. Second, they don't possess the vast knowledge you need to be an AC technician. HVAC is far and away the most complicated aspect of residential construction.
I have to tell you that in my 35 years in the business, I've never known one homeowner that broke out a set of gauges and worked on his AC unit, much less replace one. If you're an AC pro, I applaud you. It's very tough work, and mentally challenging.
The pronunciation is simply the use of the Old French word soudure - to make solid,
In Australia, we use the Middle English version of the Old French: soldure - to make solid.
Great video. I was able to get the job done and save hundreds of dollars it would have taken for a professional to do it. A few practice runs and I was good to go. Thanks.
Great video Tim. One point I would add is that solder will flow towards the heat. Often people starting out, have gobbs of solder on the joint because they don't realize this. By placeing a bit of heat on the elbow, the solder will suck into the joint and give even the beginner a neat result.
That's totally false. In the galvanic reaction between copper and steel, steel sacrifices itself leaving the copper unharmed. Google: galvanic reactions for more information. Use plumber's cloth and the circular wire brushes from now on.
For a cleaner joint you should wipe the excess flux off befor soldering as all the flux you need is within the joint.
You should also heat the bottom of the joint 1st as heat rises. This will also insure the hub of the joint is full of solder by capillary attraction (or action).
You don't know if you have a perfect soldered joint until you run the water throught it. It may look pretty, but I have seen pretty joints leak badly.
I have a question, I'm RIGHT now in the middle of putting in / and getting rid of a 26 yr old water heater. What is the best thing I can do to solder pipes with water still in them??
Read all my past columns at my website about Soldering Copper. That's the best thing you can do. I explain there all the things you can do to drain the lines.
if you're looking for a fix to the problem put some bread in the piep ,it will hold the water back long enough for you to solder the pipe .use bread beacuse it will disolve under the pressure of the water
You don't know what you're talking about. When you make your living soldering, then you may comment.
When your sweating joints, too little solder may leave a gap that may leak. A little more solder is a small price to pay for piece of mind.
I've done drops from attics where I've had to couple 12' sections of tubing for 10', This pipe would be inaccessible had had to be done right the first time. You bet I was liberal with solder.
Thanks smirnus. I was wondering when the Cavalry would arrive. The only reason I allowed BHtech's comment was the small saving grace about his thought concerning aggressive water. There are places where water is aggressive and it can corrode copper pipe. I have a column or two about this at my website.
Hey this was very helpfull! I just replaced the cold water intake pipes on my water heater tank at home and it is an old house so, I found myself having to solder some fittings vertically. So far I haven't had any leaks but, I am curious if gravity plays a factor in the soldering process?
It does. It just makes it so the solder flows up a little slower than if there were no gravity. But if there were no gravity, we'd be in a heap of trouble.
no it doesnt becouse copper pipe is use to give water it use pressures. i think not sureif u have to tilt it for ast like dwv copper pipe so it can flow
You missed the point. Capillary attraction pulls the solder up into the fitting when soldering vertically. What I said is that gravity makes this happen slower than if there was no gravity. But if there was no gravity, we'd all go flying off into space along with the torches, tools and laptops.
Hey Tim, I did it! The notes were very helpful, especially the parts I wouldn't have thought of: mixing old flux, using it sparingly, and dressing up the pipe afterwards so it won't corrode later. I was not looking forward to it because of a few bad leaky results in the past. These solderings were perfect. Thanks again... really appreciate it.
Tim, I just found this video ,thanks! So what would you recommend me to do as far as practicing soldering? what pipes and fittings? Also hoe do you solder the bottom side facing the floor of the pipe in the video? thanks again. best,Jeff
Yes soldering copper is easy don't me me wrong because I have been doing it for a while now that I a plumber.
Although my only concern is most people that will actually watch this video wont be licensed plumbers themselves to actually go and do this by themself.
Yes they might now how to but its forbidden for anybody to do any plumbing & Electrical work around their own house and could get whacked with a whopping fine if found doing so.
Thanks for your polite comment. But what you say is not true. It's perfectly legal in just about every state in the USA for a homeowner to do his own work as long as it passes inspection. If it passes, who cares who did the work. I'm a licensed master plumber, and have been one for over 25 years. I encourage people to do their own work so they can be less reliant on others.
If it's the product I saw at the Builders Show about five years ago, I was amazed. My only concern is how long it lasts. We have years of testing to show that solder holds. What about this great epoxy?
Awsome videos. At our place we have copper plumbing (old school :P). It's been years since we've been able to work on it, and, it's hard to get to the pipes. I've recently been doing some plumbing, and, I'm thinking about replacing the copper with just plastic pipes. What worries me is if copper is more durable than plastic. Our pipes freeze a lot. I worked with my brother one time and he did some plumbing but he didn't have to prime or glue. He just joined them and that was it. thx 4 vid.
Awesome video man! I have one question though. I have a pipe that is currently vertical, and I need to solder an elbow on the top to send the water in another direction, how would I go about making sure that the solder goes "up" into the bottom of the elbow where it connects to the top of the pipe (hopefully that all made sense)?
Sorry I didn't have the right info. It isn't the compression fitting. Company is called Sharkbite. This is their product: Its SharkBite the push-fit connection system thats really taking hold. It's the easiest way to join copper, CPVC or PEX pipe in any combination with no soldering, clamps, unions or glue. Just insert the pipe and the stainless steel teeth bite down and grip tight, while a specially formulated O-ring compresses to create a perfect seal. I wonder if this is the new future?
It may be. Anything that saves time and money is a good thing, so long as the integrity of the system is not cheapened. I have a similar connection on the main water-service line entering my existing home. I ring with sharp teeth is biting into the plastic 1-inch service line. It's been in place 22 years and has never leaked. The connectors you talk about work best when there is never any tension on the joints. Watch out for lumber shrinkage or subsoil movement.
I was watching on PBS this old house. They used these solder-less pipes connections. You take for instance a foot long cooper pipe. Measure 1" from the end. You then take this copper fitting and insert it into the 1" copper pipe without using solder. Held together my a washer-ring. I seen these fittings as Deopt. The plumber says its new technology. What are your thoughts on the technology on solderless copper pipe?
It sounds like you might be describing a flare or compression fitting. Those have been around for years. They all have their place in plumbing installations. Flare fittings are superb for water-service connections at meters, and underground stop valves. Compression fittings are great where you connect fixtures to water lines. I'm always open to new technology.
I have a small piece of metal that had a piece break off of it. It's generally a tube shape, and seems to be weak, as it broke through stress. I was hoping i could solder the piece that broke off the metal tube back onto it- the piece looks like a little washer that was on the bottom of it. I was wondering if I needed to know any special things when trying to solder something other than copper, and if i needed a special iron or kind of solder?
I'm a 1st year HVAC student & just want to say that Hard soldering (aka Brazing) is not easy! We used both air/acet. & oxy/acet. & it's hard to know exactly when the pipe got hot enough (over 1,000 F) to let the hard solder melt into the joint. Of course you'd get better w/practice but my 1st joints sure were ugly :(
They are both good products. There's not enough space here to answer your questions fully. PEX piping can be installed much faster than copper. There are no hidden joints with PEX - only one at the manifold and one at the fixture. Copper can have many joints that you can't see. PEX is quieter when the water flows.
2 questions for you. 1) I read where you heat the fitting and not where you have joined the 2 pieces. Which is correct? 2) I notice at the home improvement store as I was walking down the aisle, there is a glue for copper pipe. The package said for all copper pipes when joining them together. No more soldering it stated, works 100% it stated. Its made by Locktite. Have you heard about this glue for joining copper pipes? And Merry Christmas!!
I prefer to move the torch and flame around touching both the fitting and the pipe. You need both to be above the melting point of the solder. I have seen that glue but not used it. Something inside of me says I would have to build a small network of pipe outdoors and test it for months before I would ever use it indoors while asleep or away. It just seems unnatural that it would work. Not saying it doesn't, just that I have to be convinced.
Shouldnt you only put flux on one side of the pipe because putting it on both will push the flux out into the pipe and cause blockages later down the line. So cant you just flux one side and give it a twist?
this is very nice. My father is a plumber and he taught me all the stuff that he knows, including soldering pipes. I am only 15 years old but people already trust me in makin whole plumbing systems, more pecisely the soldering of copper pipes.I realy respect people who are doing this job, just because even after centuries, people need running water and a cosy, heated place to call home :D Nice work Tim :F your videos helped me a lot
Well for one I started as an apprentice with a master plumber. I didn't do jobs alone untill I was maybe 2-3 years in the business. Your going to try and show people how to build a house from the ground up and say it's easy? I can see someone launching a boiler or a water heater now.
Well, I didn't go that route. I was completely self-taught using old technology: book, manuals, and visits to job sites after the workers had left. Today with the Internet the accumulated knowledge is so much easier to access. Have no fear, you will still have work. I tell people in MANY of my videos and columns that things are hard. But some things are easy. You should start making your own videos to share what you know. Help instead of hinder.
And what if you can't completly shut the water off in the house? Maybe you get a small trickle which keeps the solder from running into the joint? And just for fun lets say your at the lowest point in the house, nothing below you to open.
Well, are you going to keep us all in suspense? You have a channel, how about using it to tape these video ideas and then load them as video responses to this one! We anxiously await them!
Why? I'm not the one saying this stuff is easy. Your going to get someone, who hasn't a clue as to what there doing, themselves in trouble or even hurt.
That is what many of you tradespeople say. I think there is some kind of jujumagumbo scarcity going on in your heads. Trying to intimidate others. You do remember there was a day that *you* had no clue and somehow you are still alive and able to use a keyboard. What makes you think others can't mimic you - especially those with the desire? You underestimate those who want to learn.
....if you cant get a joint soldered because of water in it, put a piece of bread inside each side of the pipe. The bread will act as a sponge, without preventing water flow.
Not a bad tip. It works some of the time, but not always. Another way, but more difficult, is to insert - if possible - into the line a one-quarter-inch-diameter soft copper pipe attached to a wet-dry vacuum. You make the small pipe go past where you're soldering and you suction the water so it can't get to where you are soldering. Highly effective when working with copper that is protruding above a slab.
well you know if you do burn copper pipe you can always reheat it and apply flux to the burnt area and then wipe it down with a rag. it will look brand new.
Sigh.... I did use the reaming tool on another piece of pipe, but that step of the process got left it the editing suite. The post-production person didn't think it was a necessary step to show. If I upload a revised video, then all of these comments are lost and the counter goes back to zero. Heavy sigh......
yeap good job :D i learnt that when i was 8 because my father is a plumber... now i do almost perfect copper soldering and am perfecting my welding skills... i got a question: will soldering flux harm my computer? because i will make a cooling system from 5mm copper tubing but i don't want to harm my pc :D thank you and keep up the good work mister :D
Good video, and he did it right! I just wrote a piece on WikiHow on this subject, but the video is worth a million words.
Two small comments.
1. I like to freeze the joint with a spray of water from an old plastic pump spray bottle after wiping with a clean, dry cotton rag. This solidifies the solder preventing the joint from sliding and possibly creating a leak.
2. This is COPPER TUBING, NOT 'pipe'. There is BRASS PIPE, which is threaded in ANSI sizes.
fullbird, when you quench a soldered fitting you stress the joint and make it brittle. You make what is called a cold joint. You are much better off just leaving the joint cool by itself albeit slow.
You are wrong dude... if you just flux the pipe, when you put the fitting on the pipe you will push most of the flux to the outside of the joint. As soon as you heat it up, you lose most of the flux and will cause you to cap the joint... leading to big problems down the road. However, when you heat the pipe, it is good practice to heat the entire fitting as the solder will follow the heat. Good video btw. Simple for people who don't do this for a living to do small repairs.
thnks for that i couldnt sum it up any better, yes this appears to be the main problem. its such a pity as i think it is good that others learn too as the knowledge is invaluable and your videos are a good tool to increasing skills
Hi Tim after seeing many of your videos i cant help but wonder why so many people have a dislike to you is it that they are jelouse you have such a good knowledge or just want to make themselves feel better by putting others down, being in the trades i also seem to get this negativity alot i really can not put my finger on why people love to do this.ask them to do it and then they allof a suddden keep quiet and dissapear
Many of us YouTubers call those people jealous, faceless haters. I personally feel much of the reason is the people feel threatened. They may be out there telling consumers this or that and then comes along some videos like mine or others that casts the hater in a bad light. Most of those people have no identity, so I feel most people like you realize their comments have little, if any, value.
Thanks Paul! It is nice to get a compliment from time to time. Tell me, are the materials you use the same in the UK? What about your drain lines - plastic or cast iron?
Only a union idiot would spout off like that. Do you change your own air filter in your furnace? If so you are putting one of your union brothers out of work, there are union hvac contractors.
I would not say union workers are idiots. I have friends who carry union cards. The mistake the person made was that of scarcity. If we all developed that mindset the world would be a very grim place indeed.
wow. if only it was a perfect joint. hey friend did you forget to ream your pipe? did you also ever hear of water soluable flux that meets ansi standard b813? just thought i would put a little input to you not so perfect joint. Also you must not be a licensed plumber, because if you were you would not be teaching your trade to everybody on the web. Sorry but i like my job as a union plumber and i plan protecting my work.
Thanks for your comment. I went to your channel and there is nothing there. What I mean is no identity and no videos. So I am not yet convinced you are who you say you are. The worst thing I took away from your comment is that you have no intention of sharing. You seem to be in a scarcity mindset to *protect* your job. If the union way is the right way, then start taping videos and show the rest of us why. Until such time, we will be non-believers.
i do this daily as my job, but i use a twin-flame torchhead rather than the single shown in the video. speeds things along quite nicely
ircimager 3 months ago
good contribution
valvesuppliers 6 months ago
Thanks! Helped a lot! =]
WelloKiterLiz 6 months ago
What type of handle and tip is that with the self ignition system?
3331roto 7 months ago
great video, straight to the point. nice work! What do you make of the "cold solder" adhesives like just for copper - any good?
robotguide 9 months ago
how would u fix a leaking lead pipe, its got a tiny pin prick hole
kr4zzym3 11 months ago
@kr4zzym3 you can or cut 2 millimeters out the pipe wear the hole is and solder a socket between it or use JB weld or duct tape could do
MrJANTJE123 11 months ago
Well, I have my macbook pro set up in my future bathroom. I'd like to be watching this while I do it because I've never done this before. Thanks for the video!
BrettDixonMusic 1 year ago
Whats sodder ?
FarCriedOff 1 year ago
Actually in Scotland we pronounce it soder
And yeh soldering is easy
ShaunJ4Y1873 1 year ago
@ShaunJ4Y1873 Thanks! I've always wanted to visit your great country.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
In England we pronounce Solder jus the way it's spelled.....Sol-der. Why is it pronounced sarder in the US?
1955Brummie 1 year ago
@1955Brummie We have perhaps 5 different dialects in the USA. We pronounce things differently than you blokes over on the other side of the pond.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago 2
@AsktheBuilder this is from wiki, so the mileage may vary on it's validity but, "The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid"."
I'm from Texas and my dad has always pronounced the word like "sodder". Looks a lot like the Middle English version. We talk real good in Texas. ;-)
austntexan 1 year ago 4
No matter how many times I read this kind of stuff in a book nothing beats watching a video like this - I've got to solder a copper pipe stuck ten feet up an external wall - this vid has real value. Many thanks.
Hansneesnbumpsadaisy 1 year ago
Thanks man. i thought it would be hard but it looks so easy.
oldman32123 1 year ago
My joint that I am soldering is upside dowm. Will the solder pull up into the fitting? Also the fitting is heavyer/thicker then the copper pipe. Will this still work?
paolobenne 1 year ago
@paolobenne Yes, you can solder upside down. Do it.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
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Bushougoma 1 year ago
@Bushougoma I hate to say it, but you're wrong. The flux keeps the copper from oxidizing as the heat rises. Capillary attraction - you studied this in high school chemistry - is what pulls the solder into the joint - even upside down.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
I'm having no trouble soldering, but a heck of a time trying to take apart soldered joints. The same solder that melted into the fitting doesn't seem to want to melt out. What do you think it going on?
MrTweedledee2 1 year ago
@MrTweedledee2 Heat the joint till you see the solder melt. Pull it apart.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
Hi, i have butane/propane blow torch and the thing that i find difficult is that when i move the blow torch away the solder doe not melt i have to keep the blow torch there on the joint... but i know as u were saying that the blow torch shouldn't be there and the hot joint should melt the solder... what am i doing wrong?
adzyk 1 year ago
question my boyfriend watched some videos on how to do this and from what i can see he has did everything you have said to do and still can not get a solid solder. He is a pretty good mr fix it and isnt stupid so we cant seem to figure out why it leaks still
mommyofamiracle0908 1 year ago
@mommyofamiracle0908 Oh, that's an easy one. You're not doing it right. Two likely causes: 1. The copper is not clean 2. You're not getting the pipe and fitting hot enough so the solder flows into the joint. DON'T put the solder on the joint while the torch is there. Watch the video again several times.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
Thanks, straight instruction without unneeded info. Good video!
dontexaggerate 1 year ago
Please stop calling it "Sodder". It's solder, as in older with an "s". How do you get that name sodder?
And my credentials: I've been a cable jointer for 30 years soldering Aluminium, Copper, Brass, Steel (yes, steel!) and Lead wiping.
I like that you use flux instead of just multi core solder though as the heating can cause oxidisation which won't let the copper tin probably, so it's important the flux covers the whole area to be soldered.
tammas2000 1 year ago
@tammas2000 if you live in the US, then the correct way to pronounce it is by saying the 'o' as in 'a' in car but stressed... like you write it "Sodder"
kaitusunique 1 year ago
hello good tuto i need help to soldering whit silver a cooper pipes???
rusovich1999 1 year ago
@rusovich1999 Clean the copper and get it cherry red hot. Apply the silver solder. After you accomplish this, I ask that you consider buying a book my Aunt Clara authored: Professor Phonics Gives Sound Advice
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
imdarkfire007 I understand your frustration, trust me on this. I tried soldering and brazing for the first time about 10 years ago and I was livid to say the least. But, when routine practice, and remembering the steps you are taught, you WILL be successful. One thing I learned a long time ago, when it comes to copper pipe/tubing, CLEANLINESS is GODLINESS! The cleaner your pipe and fittings, the better success you will have! Keep at it, you'll get it! Good luck!
chadlee1974 1 year ago
its that easy my ASS............a skill i never could learn. at least to the point where it WORKS when i do it.
IMDARKFIRE007 1 year ago
Well, it will be very interesting to see if you continue to be a quitter. Many of us can't wait to see if you watch this video one more time and then go put what you saw into practice. We then hope you'll come back and tell us about your success. Remember, quitters never win and winners never quit.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
agreed......i have not given up, but after two weeks of fails im really frustrated. but if i still have issues, then i have high hopes for the new fittings with the solder built in. and btw......im an alabama fan, i know all about winning :P
IMDARKFIRE007 1 year ago
Crimson Tide! Be sure the pipe and fitting are shiny clean. Add small amount of flux. Heat for 20 seconds before applying solder. Pipe needs to be hot enough to melt solder on its own without the torch in place.
AsktheBuilder 1 year ago
yea the tide :) that was likely my problem.....i was touching the solder to the pipe and taking the torch to it. ill give it a shot next time. im considering flex-on piping though, will allow me to drain and lift my water heater whe i do flooring work.....as opposed to being stationary due to copper pipes.
IMDARKFIRE007 1 year ago
@IMDARKFIRE007 Come on ...A well trained monkey can solder ..it really is that easy , just do it like he shows in the vid...
ding0925 1 year ago
thanks for the videos. Happy Hanukkah
Cindy44ful 2 years ago
This is the second time I've used this video to successfully cap off a copper pipe. Thanks again!
SparkleMirror 2 years ago
mapp is now acetylene, so you can got a nice acetylene torch for 60 bucks and the gas for it is only 8 bucks
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
Thanks for the really useful video Tim. Qucikc question, do you know how much pressure that joint will hold ? I am looking to build a new launcher for our water rocket using some copper pipe. I usually test our piping to 150psi
toddhampson 2 years ago
Solder should hold. But to be safe, braze the joints with silver solder.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
ok thank you :)
toddhampson 2 years ago
One point here to make is if you solidering refrigeration lines, Don't put flux inside the pipe because it will leave acid in the system. Acid inside the system will eat compressors up.
turtle4aire 2 years ago
I thought most AC and refrigeration lines are brazed not soldered. And you flow nitrogen through the lines as you braze. Isn't that the methodology? I'm not an HVAC or refrigeration expert by any means.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
I am, and yes it is brazing not soldering.
jamesff151 2 years ago
One problem: 15% brazing requires much more heat and when used in repairing applications usually what will happen is the heat nessacary to use 15% will melt the 50/50 away,
jamesff151 2 years ago
quick tip.......only flux the pipe not the fitting,and wipe away excess flux before you solder it for a much neater joint.
joop1977 2 years ago
I disagree. Your tip is a little too quick. You should flux the fitting as well to ensure there is no oxidation of the copper as you heat it.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
i also dont agree with your flux the pipe method only, iv never heard of that type of method before, always pipe and fitting
andrey162000 2 years ago
It doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. All that matters is if the joint doesn't leak and there's minimal flux residue inside the piping. Go to the Copper Development Association's web site to discover what else you might not know about soldering.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Good video, I'll be practising this over the weekend. Recently I did some work in two different areas using plastic SpeedFit connectors (pretty good) and pre-soldered copper connectors...it would be nice to replace them all with a more professional finish. A few months ago a qualified plumber put in our central heating boiler, the pipework looks like it will last a million years, top quality pro-solder job.
Coerlin 2 years ago
Many Thanks for clarifying vertical soldering by heating the upper fitting to induce capillary action of flux and solder upward. Your video, and watcher comments saved the day.
white5454 2 years ago
I am a plumber in the UK ... great channel! ... I would solder slightly different but hey, we are all different... great show Tim! :)
Businessasusua1 2 years ago
Thanks! Great comment. I'd love to come over there and see the different methods to do many things.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
I would love to have a busmans holiday in america... We dont solder that different realy... we mostly use fittings with the solder already in and mostly use a self cleaning powerflow flux, however, we do use the fittings shown on your video, end feed we call them - we would "tin" the end of the pipe with solder first, then re-flux and insert into the fitting and solder as normal. We use propane with a Rothenberger SUPER FIRE 2 torch. Tell ya what, I will do a video for ya!. :)
Businessasusua1 2 years ago
Would love to see that video. Send it as a Video Response and I'll approve it.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Never ever seen any plumber "tin" the end of a pipe in the UK.
And yes im a fully qualified plumber and gas safe registered.
joop1977 2 years ago
nice
samoanboygio 2 years ago
NOT recommended for A/C connections.
wes8010 2 years ago
Good advice. But realize that not one in 10,000 homeowners would ever attempt to work on their own AC units. First, they don't possess the specialized tools. Second, they don't possess the vast knowledge you need to be an AC technician. HVAC is far and away the most complicated aspect of residential construction.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
You are correct. I am sure there is someone somewhere that "knows" what theyre doing.
wes8010 2 years ago
I have to tell you that in my 35 years in the business, I've never known one homeowner that broke out a set of gauges and worked on his AC unit, much less replace one. If you're an AC pro, I applaud you. It's very tough work, and mentally challenging.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
SODER?
I'm a Plumber in Australia, love ya channel mate. Wow you guys sure do things different.
NedKelly5580 2 years ago
The pronunciation is simply the use of the Old French word soudure - to make solid,
In Australia, we use the Middle English version of the Old French: soldure - to make solid.
Great video. I was able to get the job done and save hundreds of dollars it would have taken for a professional to do it. A few practice runs and I was good to go. Thanks.
costy1511 2 years ago
Great video Tim. One point I would add is that solder will flow towards the heat. Often people starting out, have gobbs of solder on the joint because they don't realize this. By placeing a bit of heat on the elbow, the solder will suck into the joint and give even the beginner a neat result.
MrRotcev 2 years ago
i need to replace my tub shower taps. they are all solder connections. is there any specail solder i need to buy for copper?
canadamonster 2 years ago
Get lead-free solder.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
what can i do if this forms mercury fulminate while im soldering?
antiswattt 2 years ago
Why in the world would you think that would happen? Where is the mercury originating from?
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
because its very sensitive and powerful and its a primary so if that forms i die :O so what can i do if that happens?
antiswattt 2 years ago
Commander, you're due back on the planet Earth.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
cool i'm going to try it thanks for posting the video
acidpenguin86 2 years ago
Very new to this. I was told that using steel wool to scour the ends can leave traces of steel which would eventually corrode the pipe. Is that true?
Fayth82 2 years ago
That's totally false. In the galvanic reaction between copper and steel, steel sacrifices itself leaving the copper unharmed. Google: galvanic reactions for more information. Use plumber's cloth and the circular wire brushes from now on.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
brazzing copper is a much stronger joint
mazy54 2 years ago
Which is why this video is called How to Solder Copper Pipe. How about you tape a video showing us how to braze..... :->
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
For a cleaner joint you should wipe the excess flux off befor soldering as all the flux you need is within the joint.
You should also heat the bottom of the joint 1st as heat rises. This will also insure the hub of the joint is full of solder by capillary attraction (or action).
Connaughton73 2 years ago
i have a butane torch...will that work for a project like this?
dealer90042 2 years ago
Yes it will.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
You don't know if you have a perfect soldered joint until you run the water throught it. It may look pretty, but I have seen pretty joints leak badly.
Nimbostratus1111 2 years ago
Not entirely true. You can pressure test with air. Not easy, but possible.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
I have a question, I'm RIGHT now in the middle of putting in / and getting rid of a 26 yr old water heater. What is the best thing I can do to solder pipes with water still in them??
schellshock90 2 years ago
Read all my past columns at my website about Soldering Copper. That's the best thing you can do. I explain there all the things you can do to drain the lines.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
You cant solder copper pipes with water in them, you will have to get the water out of them. Blow air in to the pipe to get the water out.
matts520 2 years ago
bad idea man
beanzchulo321 2 years ago
if you're looking for a fix to the problem put some bread in the piep ,it will hold the water back long enough for you to solder the pipe .use bread beacuse it will disolve under the pressure of the water
luvu2luvme 2 years ago
You used way too much solder.....
Also, you only need to use a rag to make the joint look nice, the water in the pipe will corrode the pipe faster than flux.
BHtechnology 2 years ago
You don't know what you're talking about. When you make your living soldering, then you may comment.
When your sweating joints, too little solder may leave a gap that may leak. A little more solder is a small price to pay for piece of mind.
I've done drops from attics where I've had to couple 12' sections of tubing for 10', This pipe would be inaccessible had had to be done right the first time. You bet I was liberal with solder.
smirnus 2 years ago
Thanks smirnus. I was wondering when the Cavalry would arrive. The only reason I allowed BHtech's comment was the small saving grace about his thought concerning aggressive water. There are places where water is aggressive and it can corrode copper pipe. I have a column or two about this at my website.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Uh, you mean Tim..... right? :->
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Hey this was very helpfull! I just replaced the cold water intake pipes on my water heater tank at home and it is an old house so, I found myself having to solder some fittings vertically. So far I haven't had any leaks but, I am curious if gravity plays a factor in the soldering process?
BenjaminLucas027 2 years ago
It does. It just makes it so the solder flows up a little slower than if there were no gravity. But if there were no gravity, we'd be in a heap of trouble.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
no it doesnt becouse copper pipe is use to give water it use pressures. i think not sureif u have to tilt it for ast like dwv copper pipe so it can flow
beanzchulo321 2 years ago
You missed the point. Capillary attraction pulls the solder up into the fitting when soldering vertically. What I said is that gravity makes this happen slower than if there was no gravity. But if there was no gravity, we'd all go flying off into space along with the torches, tools and laptops.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
GREAT! Thanks!
edmondhall 2 years ago
Thanks Tim, I've taken careful notes and now I'm off to solder my hot water tank lines. Great instruction.
rells2000 2 years ago
Practice first on some scrap pipe!!!!
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Hey Tim, I did it! The notes were very helpful, especially the parts I wouldn't have thought of: mixing old flux, using it sparingly, and dressing up the pipe afterwards so it won't corrode later. I was not looking forward to it because of a few bad leaky results in the past. These solderings were perfect. Thanks again... really appreciate it.
rells2000 2 years ago
hey i have a question
Is it possible for me to solder a joint using lead free solder and with out a flux
because I want to stay away from Lead and the toxic flux
because i need to solder
aluminum to aluminum
steel ot steel
Iron to Iron
and
GI to GI
thanks Tim
utubenice 2 years ago
The answer is No..... Read my columns at my website about soldering. There are many you should read.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
yes you can. if you your copper pipe and fitting is really clean you can sweat the pipe WITHOUT flux.
odmcarp 2 years ago
This isn't really true. The flux prevents oxidation as the copper is heated. It's best to use flux.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Tim, I just found this video ,thanks! So what would you recommend me to do as far as practicing soldering? what pipes and fittings? Also hoe do you solder the bottom side facing the floor of the pipe in the video? thanks again. best,Jeff
skullfoot 2 years ago
Jeff, just do it..... Practice with any sizes 1/2 or 3/4. Solder flows up!
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
To the guy who made this video.
Yes soldering copper is easy don't me me wrong because I have been doing it for a while now that I a plumber.
Although my only concern is most people that will actually watch this video wont be licensed plumbers themselves to actually go and do this by themself.
Yes they might now how to but its forbidden for anybody to do any plumbing & Electrical work around their own house and could get whacked with a whopping fine if found doing so.
just be careful guys !!
AllEyezOnM3e 2 years ago
Thanks for your polite comment. But what you say is not true. It's perfectly legal in just about every state in the USA for a homeowner to do his own work as long as it passes inspection. If it passes, who cares who did the work. I'm a licensed master plumber, and have been one for over 25 years. I encourage people to do their own work so they can be less reliant on others.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Well here in Australia its the complete opposite so to you Ausies out their be careful !!
AllEyezOnM3e 2 years ago
What a bummer. Sounds like the government there is in too much control of your lives. We have a saying here in New Hampshire: Live Free or Die
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Hah yeah i like that theory as well
anyway good video mate.
AllEyezOnM3e 2 years ago
Thanks. Stay safe and away from all those fires down under.
AsktheBuilder 2 years ago
Hi Tim,
I have a question: What do you think about the Just For Copper solderless copper bonding? Is better then soldering pipes or not?
drdracer88 3 years ago
If it's the product I saw at the Builders Show about five years ago, I was amazed. My only concern is how long it lasts. We have years of testing to show that solder holds. What about this great epoxy?
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Spot on, Mate. It's been a few years since the last time I did plumbing and I wanted to make sure. Your video was the perfect refresher.
BradleyThomasMartin 3 years ago
Awsome videos. At our place we have copper plumbing (old school :P). It's been years since we've been able to work on it, and, it's hard to get to the pipes. I've recently been doing some plumbing, and, I'm thinking about replacing the copper with just plastic pipes. What worries me is if copper is more durable than plastic. Our pipes freeze a lot. I worked with my brother one time and he did some plumbing but he didn't have to prime or glue. He just joined them and that was it. thx 4 vid.
ChrisWatch 3 years ago
Awesome video man! I have one question though. I have a pipe that is currently vertical, and I need to solder an elbow on the top to send the water in another direction, how would I go about making sure that the solder goes "up" into the bottom of the elbow where it connects to the top of the pipe (hopefully that all made sense)?
skooby77 3 years ago
Solder absolutely flows up if the fit between the pipe and fitting is snug.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Thank you for the quick reply! I love your videos man, keep up the great work.
skooby77 3 years ago
Sorry I didn't have the right info. It isn't the compression fitting. Company is called Sharkbite. This is their product: Its SharkBite the push-fit connection system thats really taking hold. It's the easiest way to join copper, CPVC or PEX pipe in any combination with no soldering, clamps, unions or glue. Just insert the pipe and the stainless steel teeth bite down and grip tight, while a specially formulated O-ring compresses to create a perfect seal. I wonder if this is the new future?
jerry736 3 years ago 2
It may be. Anything that saves time and money is a good thing, so long as the integrity of the system is not cheapened. I have a similar connection on the main water-service line entering my existing home. I ring with sharp teeth is biting into the plastic 1-inch service line. It's been in place 22 years and has never leaked. The connectors you talk about work best when there is never any tension on the joints. Watch out for lumber shrinkage or subsoil movement.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
I was watching on PBS this old house. They used these solder-less pipes connections. You take for instance a foot long cooper pipe. Measure 1" from the end. You then take this copper fitting and insert it into the 1" copper pipe without using solder. Held together my a washer-ring. I seen these fittings as Deopt. The plumber says its new technology. What are your thoughts on the technology on solderless copper pipe?
jerry736 3 years ago 2
It sounds like you might be describing a flare or compression fitting. Those have been around for years. They all have their place in plumbing installations. Flare fittings are superb for water-service connections at meters, and underground stop valves. Compression fittings are great where you connect fixtures to water lines. I'm always open to new technology.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
This is the best and most complete instruction of the dozen videos I checked for copper pipe soldering. No wasted time, and makes many good points.
eezi2 3 years ago
I have a small piece of metal that had a piece break off of it. It's generally a tube shape, and seems to be weak, as it broke through stress. I was hoping i could solder the piece that broke off the metal tube back onto it- the piece looks like a little washer that was on the bottom of it. I was wondering if I needed to know any special things when trying to solder something other than copper, and if i needed a special iron or kind of solder?
Sckisourz 3 years ago
It may have to be welded or brazed.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
I'm a 1st year HVAC student & just want to say that Hard soldering (aka Brazing) is not easy! We used both air/acet. & oxy/acet. & it's hard to know exactly when the pipe got hot enough (over 1,000 F) to let the hard solder melt into the joint. Of course you'd get better w/practice but my 1st joints sure were ugly :(
juncho1977 3 years ago
what do you recommend for cold and hot water lines for new construction? Copper or plastic? What are there good points and bad?
lti12 3 years ago
They are both good products. There's not enough space here to answer your questions fully. PEX piping can be installed much faster than copper. There are no hidden joints with PEX - only one at the manifold and one at the fixture. Copper can have many joints that you can't see. PEX is quieter when the water flows.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
2 questions for you. 1) I read where you heat the fitting and not where you have joined the 2 pieces. Which is correct? 2) I notice at the home improvement store as I was walking down the aisle, there is a glue for copper pipe. The package said for all copper pipes when joining them together. No more soldering it stated, works 100% it stated. Its made by Locktite. Have you heard about this glue for joining copper pipes? And Merry Christmas!!
char675 3 years ago
I prefer to move the torch and flame around touching both the fitting and the pipe. You need both to be above the melting point of the solder. I have seen that glue but not used it. Something inside of me says I would have to build a small network of pipe outdoors and test it for months before I would ever use it indoors while asleep or away. It just seems unnatural that it would work. Not saying it doesn't, just that I have to be convinced.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
i need a really thick copper pipe any ideas were to buy
1 cm thick ??
shubhamranjan 3 years ago
Did you Google that term? Did you not see all the ads in the right column????? thick copper pipe 1 cm copper pipe etc.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
shubhamranjan try Lowes, they got really thick pipes
lti12 3 years ago
You want a real selection of piping? Go visit a real plumbing supply house or business, not a home center.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Shouldnt you only put flux on one side of the pipe because putting it on both will push the flux out into the pipe and cause blockages later down the line. So cant you just flux one side and give it a twist?
Jamex06 3 years ago
As long as you are sure the inside of the fitting gets completely coated.......
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Flux won't cause a blockage unless you fill the pipe with it!
famousbruce 3 years ago
this is very nice. My father is a plumber and he taught me all the stuff that he knows, including soldering pipes. I am only 15 years old but people already trust me in makin whole plumbing systems, more pecisely the soldering of copper pipes.I realy respect people who are doing this job, just because even after centuries, people need running water and a cosy, heated place to call home :D Nice work Tim :F your videos helped me a lot
Nby21Blog 3 years ago
Well for one I started as an apprentice with a master plumber. I didn't do jobs alone untill I was maybe 2-3 years in the business. Your going to try and show people how to build a house from the ground up and say it's easy? I can see someone launching a boiler or a water heater now.
CigarsNbourbon 3 years ago
Well, I didn't go that route. I was completely self-taught using old technology: book, manuals, and visits to job sites after the workers had left. Today with the Internet the accumulated knowledge is so much easier to access. Have no fear, you will still have work. I tell people in MANY of my videos and columns that things are hard. But some things are easy. You should start making your own videos to share what you know. Help instead of hinder.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
And what if you can't completly shut the water off in the house? Maybe you get a small trickle which keeps the solder from running into the joint? And just for fun lets say your at the lowest point in the house, nothing below you to open.
CigarsNbourbon 3 years ago
Well, are you going to keep us all in suspense? You have a channel, how about using it to tape these video ideas and then load them as video responses to this one! We anxiously await them!
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Why? I'm not the one saying this stuff is easy. Your going to get someone, who hasn't a clue as to what there doing, themselves in trouble or even hurt.
CigarsNbourbon 3 years ago
That is what many of you tradespeople say. I think there is some kind of jujumagumbo scarcity going on in your heads. Trying to intimidate others. You do remember there was a day that *you* had no clue and somehow you are still alive and able to use a keyboard. What makes you think others can't mimic you - especially those with the desire? You underestimate those who want to learn.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
....if you cant get a joint soldered because of water in it, put a piece of bread inside each side of the pipe. The bread will act as a sponge, without preventing water flow.
sexykyle6921 3 years ago
Not a bad tip. It works some of the time, but not always. Another way, but more difficult, is to insert - if possible - into the line a one-quarter-inch-diameter soft copper pipe attached to a wet-dry vacuum. You make the small pipe go past where you're soldering and you suction the water so it can't get to where you are soldering. Highly effective when working with copper that is protruding above a slab.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
ur not ment to solder a joint and leave a open end fitting, u will get problems if adding a pieice of copper to the other part of the 22mm elbow
aakk 3 years ago
That is why the 90 bend is pointing up to the sky.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
you burned the pipe.
ProudAmerican9 3 years ago
Nope. The flux got a little toasted. Not the copper.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
well you know if you do burn copper pipe you can always reheat it and apply flux to the burnt area and then wipe it down with a rag. it will look brand new.
ProudAmerican9 3 years ago
I think you skipped a step. You need to remove the oxidized flux making sure the copper is bright and shiny. Then you can continue as you describe.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
you might be right. im an apprentice plumber and thats how ive been taught. you should make a video of ladder safety.
ProudAmerican9 3 years ago
No might about it..... :-> You must get the copper shiny before starting over. It is non-negotiable.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
The builder didn't deburr his cut. What's that about? Of course 95% of plumbers don't either but 95% of plumbers exhibit borderline skill too.
plumber3dad 3 years ago
Sigh.... I did use the reaming tool on another piece of pipe, but that step of the process got left it the editing suite. The post-production person didn't think it was a necessary step to show. If I upload a revised video, then all of these comments are lost and the counter goes back to zero. Heavy sigh......
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
yeap good job :D i learnt that when i was 8 because my father is a plumber... now i do almost perfect copper soldering and am perfecting my welding skills... i got a question: will soldering flux harm my computer? because i will make a cooling system from 5mm copper tubing but i don't want to harm my pc :D thank you and keep up the good work mister :D
Nby21Blog 3 years ago
The flux used in circuit boards is included as part of the solder. Leave no excess solder.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
Good video, and he did it right! I just wrote a piece on WikiHow on this subject, but the video is worth a million words.
Two small comments.
1. I like to freeze the joint with a spray of water from an old plastic pump spray bottle after wiping with a clean, dry cotton rag. This solidifies the solder preventing the joint from sliding and possibly creating a leak.
2. This is COPPER TUBING, NOT 'pipe'. There is BRASS PIPE, which is threaded in ANSI sizes.
fullbirdcorporal 3 years ago
fullbird, when you quench a soldered fitting you stress the joint and make it brittle. You make what is called a cold joint. You are much better off just leaving the joint cool by itself albeit slow.
texNoz 3 years ago
Be sure to come back and tell us your success story!
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
you don't put flux inside the fitting, only on the pipe!
cyanspeaker 3 years ago
You are wrong dude... if you just flux the pipe, when you put the fitting on the pipe you will push most of the flux to the outside of the joint. As soon as you heat it up, you lose most of the flux and will cause you to cap the joint... leading to big problems down the road. However, when you heat the pipe, it is good practice to heat the entire fitting as the solder will follow the heat. Good video btw. Simple for people who don't do this for a living to do small repairs.
moskoni77 3 years ago
Moskoni77,
Thanks, you beat me to the punch. You are correct.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
How do you keep from burning floorboards wood framing on existing plumbing jobs.
unllax 3 years ago
By putting a heat shield between the flame and the wood. The shield can be a simple piece of sheet metal.
AsktheBuilder 3 years ago
thnks for that i couldnt sum it up any better, yes this appears to be the main problem. its such a pity as i think it is good that others learn too as the knowledge is invaluable and your videos are a good tool to increasing skills
jameskap 4 years ago
Hi Tim after seeing many of your videos i cant help but wonder why so many people have a dislike to you is it that they are jelouse you have such a good knowledge or just want to make themselves feel better by putting others down, being in the trades i also seem to get this negativity alot i really can not put my finger on why people love to do this.ask them to do it and then they allof a suddden keep quiet and dissapear
jameskap 4 years ago
Jameskap,
Many of us YouTubers call those people jealous, faceless haters. I personally feel much of the reason is the people feel threatened. They may be out there telling consumers this or that and then comes along some videos like mine or others that casts the hater in a bad light. Most of those people have no identity, so I feel most people like you realize their comments have little, if any, value.
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
Great and informative video .... and the joint is as perfect as you can get .... ( paul the plumber, UK )
paulo7070 4 years ago
Thanks Paul! It is nice to get a compliment from time to time. Tell me, are the materials you use the same in the UK? What about your drain lines - plastic or cast iron?
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
Only a union idiot would spout off like that. Do you change your own air filter in your furnace? If so you are putting one of your union brothers out of work, there are union hvac contractors.
Thanks for the video post.
caddobr24 4 years ago
I would not say union workers are idiots. I have friends who carry union cards. The mistake the person made was that of scarcity. If we all developed that mindset the world would be a very grim place indeed.
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
wow. if only it was a perfect joint. hey friend did you forget to ream your pipe? did you also ever hear of water soluable flux that meets ansi standard b813? just thought i would put a little input to you not so perfect joint. Also you must not be a licensed plumber, because if you were you would not be teaching your trade to everybody on the web. Sorry but i like my job as a union plumber and i plan protecting my work.
ua210 4 years ago
Thanks for your comment. I went to your channel and there is nothing there. What I mean is no identity and no videos. So I am not yet convinced you are who you say you are. The worst thing I took away from your comment is that you have no intention of sharing. You seem to be in a scarcity mindset to *protect* your job. If the union way is the right way, then start taping videos and show the rest of us why. Until such time, we will be non-believers.
AsktheBuilder 4 years ago
"I went to your channel and there is nothing there"
that about sums up the skill dept of a typical union worker
crabtrap 3 years ago
just the "brush up" i needed, thanks!
julian
asininehole 4 years ago
it's not a very big piece that broke
sulivel 4 years ago