whats the difference between the proto 2 piece ion barell and the proto 2 piece spyder barell???? i usally play in the middle of the paintball field so i was wondering which one would be better and have more accuracy.
pretty funny how through the progression on the pmr still has a 11" barrel........& by the looks of it from this video they went back to composite material, i could be wrong & they still have that crap feedneck
but than again its thier low/mid level gun but still would be nice to see some upgrades since its been 4 years in to the pmr aside from the ul frame
@petrtwat Dude, your an idiot. The only difference between the rail and the reflex is the aesthetics the barrel and 20 Psi of efficiency. Oh yeah and £135!
best move by dye in a while, thank god they got rid of the SLG. people who dont realize how smart this is are stupid and dont realize dye's intentions with this.
Okay honestly though what is with all the hate for the new Proto rail 2011 they dropped the slg line because it had problems, this gun appears just to be a a cheaper version of the new proto reflex rail and has nothing like the internals of a slg although the appearance would look like a slg. No macroline get over it and fucking go buy a piece for $8 if its that much of a problem. I'd rather not have a G4 that breaks down every 5 secs or a gun that was meant for a 2 year olds hands (invert mini)
@MaxBemisingod ok i was just curious cuz i have the 07 and it was shit cuz of the plastic i know it was metal last year but in this video it just looks like its plastic.
@MacXballer yeah so do I but I put a UL frame on it. All that plastic was shit but yeah the new Rails are all metal, messed around with one the other day at ProShop
Im sure its a good gun for the money but that steel braided line looks fugly, and I cant believe they still dont come with a clamping feedneck. Nodody want to dig through their allen keys to put a hopper on.
ya but what your forgetting is that the other guns in this price bracket are way better . mini, all metal no macroline . that alone beats this reiteration of the slg .
@shadowthread its a composite pmr for $150 off, IF its good i think it might sell more then the mini seeing as how some people bought the older pmr for $450 over the mini thats $325. I actualy liked the way pmr's shot and some shoot very well even without an lpr. I wouldnt say the mini is WAY better though. metal macroline is really stupid though, idk what they were thinking.
i like this idea alot better then the slg, now dye has a marker that can compete better and in a closer price range to the G4, old mini, and mayb AXE(idk how much they are). Its a pmr with an all composite body, they kept the same internals but made it so it could be as cheap as possible, look at the power and eye buttons, that probly saved around $25. look at the grips, not even UL grips. Almost the same as a 2009-10 pmr but for an slg UL price, good move. now all they need is a PM11!!!
@sisilodobsis I think there's not gonna be such thing as a PM11... this is called RAIL just like the PROTO MATRIX RAIL and I think this piece of crap comes to replace the good old PMR... dye realized that u could buy a PMR intead of a DM for a better price and with the same performance... and don't tell me that DM is better just cuz it's more expensive... both guns were exactly the same!!!!
@ZaiferOne i know there isnt going to be a pm11, this is replacing the SLG, the reflex is replacing the rail the reflex is called the proto reflex RAIL too. And did u mean DYE realized people could buy a Proto matrix 8 for example( not a proto matrix rail) for a better price?. A DM and a pmr are not the same not just because of the money but because of the parts like an lpr and fuse bolt. some1 who has the money to buy a Dm10 wouldn't buy a pmr 10 because of the money differences.
@Jaded6699 in some ways it is and in some its not, its more like Dye went back to the original pmr but better. Its in the SLG's price range though, 300 for the old UL, 300 for this
I'm glad about this change, basically, dye took away the SLG. The slg's always broke with the sear tripper design, and overall the way the gun functioned wasnt thought out well. They are offering now basically a spool valve slg at the low $300 price bracket. THE NEW PROTO REFLEX IS REPLACING THE 2010 PMR. Go look at that video. The reflex will be at $500 and it comes with a two peice barrel, the new camlock feedneck, etc. This gun is meant to replace the slg.
@XxPaintballDemonxX thats a negative. lol. i got an 09 and i love the 2 piece. other than the barrel which can be replaced. this gun is fucking sleak.
slg with dm frame and sorry idea for rail, keep it like past several years, straight frame, hyper 3, upped bolt, new feedneck clam, and a better barrel.
this should be still be a pretty good gun to start off with if its under the $200 range and the real PMR is now called the pmr reflex which is retailing at $500
why the fuck would they drop such a great 14 inch proto 2 piece that was on the 2010 pmr, and give it a shit 11 inch slg barrel? or give it that shitty "composite" UL frame instead of the one on the 10 pmr? they've completely screwed this one up
wow so crappy asa steal braid composite ul are you just trying to pass off another slg haha thats low and not worth anyones time cun is wack what happened proto used to love your stuff not this crap
Proto rail or SLG
SAHeatpb 1 month ago
is it work with Co2 Tank ???
hasanq8hjk 4 months ago
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xXhunter47Xx 4 months ago
@hasanq8hjk Don't use c02. Ever. It's horrible for your gun and HPA is much cheaper to fill at most if not all fields.
xXhunter47Xx 4 months ago
whats the difference between the proto 2 piece ion barell and the proto 2 piece spyder barell???? i usally play in the middle of the paintball field so i was wondering which one would be better and have more accuracy.
MrJoey2miles 7 months ago
1. Can replace steel braid with macro line
2. I can only get mine to ~23bps
3. Hyper 3 is great
4. They look great and shoot smooth
5. Love mine, I recommend it
TeamC00L 7 months ago
25 bps? mine only does 15?
Proto2011Rail 8 months ago
what caliber paintballs does this marker take?
iAppleTechUK 8 months ago
@iAppleTechUK 68.cal
ojoj626 7 months ago
can you replace the steel line with a macro-line?
TerribleThree 9 months ago
yes it can man
PaintballProto26 10 months ago
@PaintballProto26 only with an anti siphon tune in the tank ;)
beeftycoon 9 months ago
can this gun use c02???
wholelottarosey 10 months ago
pretty funny how through the progression on the pmr still has a 11" barrel........& by the looks of it from this video they went back to composite material, i could be wrong & they still have that crap feedneck
but than again its thier low/mid level gun but still would be nice to see some upgrades since its been 4 years in to the pmr aside from the ul frame
zoomzoomgt 11 months ago
reminds me to much of the smart parts vibe. Junk. Dont waste your money on this just get the reflex rail.
petrtwat 11 months ago
@petrtwat Dude, your an idiot. The only difference between the rail and the reflex is the aesthetics the barrel and 20 Psi of efficiency. Oh yeah and £135!
Polaris543 8 months ago
Ive got this i use it for speedball and i love it
iTzJoeeee 1 year ago
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Can you get a longer paybe 2 peice 14'' barrel for the Rail like the Reflex has?
imthtblindguy 1 year ago
it says max rof is 25bps but on all the reviews i have watched they said its about 15.5.
beerpongmaster15 1 year ago
@beerpongmaster15 you can adjust it. the max may be 25, but you can change it for ramping. in tournaments, you have to have it capped at about 15 bps
Myaccount25 11 months ago
so is this gun plastic?, im not really sure what composite means. Thanks in advance for the response =)
tard1994 1 year ago
@tard1994 Composite is just a fancy word for plastic, and i think just the frame is 'composite'
masterxpb 1 year ago
@masterxpb Thx for the reply again.
tard1994 1 year ago
@tard1994 lol no problem
masterxpb 1 year ago
@mtofdirteditz i tryed to put a virtue oled in my slg and it only works for the 07/08 models and i got ripped so if you have a 09/10 slg dont buy it
jackcarine 1 year ago
does it have a ul frame
lockeagle 1 year ago
@lockeagle Why don't u watch the video it specifically says it
Muckpb15 1 year ago
does this have a magnetic trigger or a spring trigger?
lonewolf1405 1 year ago
ol
M3rGamer123 1 year ago
can you put this frame on an 07 pmr
xXSupercrossKid9Xx 1 year ago
WTF? NO MACROLINE? JUST STEEL HOSE? WTF IS THIS DYE
pokemon2487 1 year ago
I think they should replace the adjustable feed neck with a clamp because its garbage!:(
HollywoodGoonsPBALL 1 year ago
@MtOfDirtEditz dont drop any money into an slg
sisilodobsis 1 year ago
best move by dye in a while, thank god they got rid of the SLG. people who dont realize how smart this is are stupid and dont realize dye's intentions with this.
sisilodobsis 1 year ago 7
Disapointed in the drop from the amazing 2010 pmr to the 2011 but i guess the 2011 reflex makes up for it
cksh8984 1 year ago
really disapointed in the drop from the amazing 2010 pmr to the 2011
cksh8984 1 year ago
Okay honestly though what is with all the hate for the new Proto rail 2011 they dropped the slg line because it had problems, this gun appears just to be a a cheaper version of the new proto reflex rail and has nothing like the internals of a slg although the appearance would look like a slg. No macroline get over it and fucking go buy a piece for $8 if its that much of a problem. I'd rather not have a G4 that breaks down every 5 secs or a gun that was meant for a 2 year olds hands (invert mini)
leepordgeko 1 year ago
im good with my pmr 10
legstarwarscollector 1 year ago
wtf the 10 was better
xCxw3lly 1 year ago
how much does it weigh?
pr3nation 1 year ago
hey is this gun made of plasitic like the slg or did the finaly make it out of aluminum.
HOPEFOR1MILLION 1 year ago
@HOPEFOR1MILLION the body is metal, the UL grup frame is composite.
555or55 1 year ago
this or etek 3 lt
SuperLuke33 1 year ago
@SuperLuke33 etek all the way....if you do get this, get a new barrel because it so short and new board
skyeric875 1 year ago
@skyeric875 why does he need a new board. This board come with the modes you need for tournments up to 15bps
555or55 1 year ago
@SuperLuke33 etek not this if u want a pmr get a 10 or 09
zachariah240 1 year ago
WATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2011 rail and REFLEX rail???????
LegionsPaintball 1 year ago
Wow this looks like such a fail
HighEndFilms 1 year ago
does this run on hpa and co2 or just hpa?
damianw43 1 year ago
im sorry but your all hateing..and from what i see here this shot blows any dp g4/mini there is
xxbloodbucketxx 1 year ago
is that a plastic frame
MacXballer 1 year ago
@MacXballer no it's all metal.
MaxBemisingod 1 year ago
@MaxBemisingod ok i was just curious cuz i have the 07 and it was shit cuz of the plastic i know it was metal last year but in this video it just looks like its plastic.
MacXballer 1 year ago
@MacXballer yeah so do I but I put a UL frame on it. All that plastic was shit but yeah the new Rails are all metal, messed around with one the other day at ProShop
MaxBemisingod 1 year ago
Im sure its a good gun for the money but that steel braided line looks fugly, and I cant believe they still dont come with a clamping feedneck. Nodody want to dig through their allen keys to put a hopper on.
mowwow87 1 year ago
i didnt even know they still made metal hoses
TheMistyfilms 1 year ago
it looks like nothing new.. the rail sign on the side of the gun makes the gun look gay
MetalxDC 1 year ago
why a steel braided hose instead of a macro line??? what!!!!
NHnasty0105 1 year ago
@NHnasty0105 More durable, more reliable, less likely to leak or have newbies do something that upsets it.
TheInflicted 1 year ago
@TheInflicted
true...
NHnasty0105 1 year ago
wow this is so fail
pokemon2487 1 year ago
Get rid of the crap 11" barrel.
x28paintball 1 year ago
its like the first pmr
dannnny23 1 year ago
ya but what your forgetting is that the other guns in this price bracket are way better . mini, all metal no macroline . that alone beats this reiteration of the slg .
shadowthread 1 year ago
@shadowthread its a composite pmr for $150 off, IF its good i think it might sell more then the mini seeing as how some people bought the older pmr for $450 over the mini thats $325. I actualy liked the way pmr's shot and some shoot very well even without an lpr. I wouldnt say the mini is WAY better though. metal macroline is really stupid though, idk what they were thinking.
sisilodobsis 1 year ago
i like this idea alot better then the slg, now dye has a marker that can compete better and in a closer price range to the G4, old mini, and mayb AXE(idk how much they are). Its a pmr with an all composite body, they kept the same internals but made it so it could be as cheap as possible, look at the power and eye buttons, that probly saved around $25. look at the grips, not even UL grips. Almost the same as a 2009-10 pmr but for an slg UL price, good move. now all they need is a PM11!!!
sisilodobsis 1 year ago
@sisilodobsis I think there's not gonna be such thing as a PM11... this is called RAIL just like the PROTO MATRIX RAIL and I think this piece of crap comes to replace the good old PMR... dye realized that u could buy a PMR intead of a DM for a better price and with the same performance... and don't tell me that DM is better just cuz it's more expensive... both guns were exactly the same!!!!
ZaiferOne 1 year ago
@ZaiferOne i know there isnt going to be a pm11, this is replacing the SLG, the reflex is replacing the rail the reflex is called the proto reflex RAIL too. And did u mean DYE realized people could buy a Proto matrix 8 for example( not a proto matrix rail) for a better price?. A DM and a pmr are not the same not just because of the money but because of the parts like an lpr and fuse bolt. some1 who has the money to buy a Dm10 wouldn't buy a pmr 10 because of the money differences.
sisilodobsis 1 year ago 8
@sisilodobsis The Proto Rail is not replacing the SLG.
Jaded6699 1 year ago
@Jaded6699 in some ways it is and in some its not, its more like Dye went back to the original pmr but better. Its in the SLG's price range though, 300 for the old UL, 300 for this
sisilodobsis 1 year ago
so they made the rail worse? then got rid of the slg? then made a new gun that is basically a newer 2010 rail and called it the reflex? WHY?!?!
bauerds 1 year ago
To make this better:
on-off asa
No plastic clamp.
i dont even see eye covers!!!
TeamDK767 1 year ago
Everyone....chill
I'm glad about this change, basically, dye took away the SLG. The slg's always broke with the sear tripper design, and overall the way the gun functioned wasnt thought out well. They are offering now basically a spool valve slg at the low $300 price bracket. THE NEW PROTO REFLEX IS REPLACING THE 2010 PMR. Go look at that video. The reflex will be at $500 and it comes with a two peice barrel, the new camlock feedneck, etc. This gun is meant to replace the slg.
drowland13 1 year ago 2
to me the 11 is a COMPLETE dwngrade
1 piece barrel
no clamping feedneck
this is just an expensive slg
pbexpert 1 year ago
@pbexpert this is just taking place of the slg its not anymore expensive then the slg. go look up the proto reflex that is essentially the new rail
cdyspires 1 year ago
cost?
ANoobsGuide 1 year ago
@ANoobsGuide $300
ekoster805 1 year ago
one up for the eye pipe but still i think it needs a clamping feedneck and 2 piece barrel for the cost of it
codyschuyler 1 year ago
dye, please quit dropping the ball
M40kc 1 year ago
this sucks ill stick with my dp fusion fx
FailProductionsJohn 1 year ago
@FailProductionsJohn oh thats terrible
M40kc 1 year ago
Looks like a UL slg but it isnt a sear tripper
pooppan74 1 year ago
1 piece barrel..... sigh
XxPaintballDemonxX 1 year ago
@XxPaintballDemonxX Right? better off with the 2010 version...
WoWbob396 1 year ago
@XxPaintballDemonxX thats a negative. lol. i got an 09 and i love the 2 piece. other than the barrel which can be replaced. this gun is fucking sleak.
SamiDullard10 1 year ago
slg with dm frame and sorry idea for rail, keep it like past several years, straight frame, hyper 3, upped bolt, new feedneck clam, and a better barrel.
bmcgwier 1 year ago
looks like a 09 slg.. lol
AirVsPaint 1 year ago
this should be still be a pretty good gun to start off with if its under the $200 range and the real PMR is now called the pmr reflex which is retailing at $500
garjorgar987 1 year ago
what the hell i would never get that gun angd i thought the 08 pmr was bad that right now looks like gold come on dye
bigE2448 1 year ago
wow fuck that, name it the slg if your gonna make it out of plastic and composite anyone know the price on this?
garjorgar987 1 year ago
c'mon dye! i know 14' barrel is for the more expensive guns, but can we at LEAST get a 12' barrel?!?!?! PLZ!!!!
l3randonio 1 year ago
That looks just god awful
Aznboi986 1 year ago 2
I'm thinking this is the 'SLG' for this year with the steel hose, knock off UL frame/grips and the 1 piece barrel and all...
abenguyen 1 year ago
Bad move...
mikrofelipe 1 year ago
Dye.
I am dissapoint.
This gun better shoot rainbows made of flaming vaginas if you are putting such a price tag on it.
n3m151s 1 year ago
wow im very disappointed
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it seems like the pmr is getting worst every year
1vinze1 1 year ago 2
why the fuck would they drop such a great 14 inch proto 2 piece that was on the 2010 pmr, and give it a shit 11 inch slg barrel? or give it that shitty "composite" UL frame instead of the one on the 10 pmr? they've completely screwed this one up
AceKilla2u 1 year ago
leftover slg parts....
pb4evr 1 year ago
wow so crappy asa steal braid composite ul are you just trying to pass off another slg haha thats low and not worth anyones time cun is wack what happened proto used to love your stuff not this crap
PaintballBros9598 1 year ago
hmmmmmmmm looks like a SLG to me
skaterboyliam 1 year ago 2
@skaterboyliam hmmmmmmmm but its notthing like a slg internally.....
leepordgeko 1 year ago
dye this is poor... why not just come back with a proto slg...
Jstimach 1 year ago
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paintball7763 1 year ago 2
@paintball7763 thats what i was really hoping the reflex would be like, but sadly no.
sisilodobsis 1 year ago
nooooooooooooooooo! if you want join paintball, start with a pmr oder dm or you will live to rue it....
Maaxxwell 1 year ago
Yes, to everyone wondering, the Rail is replacing the SLG and the new Reflex is replacing the Rail.
videovader101 1 year ago
sweet. new best 300 dollar gun??
AndreewSB 1 year ago
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DominikCarle 1 year ago
wtf?! steel lines?
wicker7hxc7pb7 1 year ago 2
WTF has proto come to this is jus an sls!
subz013 1 year ago
@subz013 u mean slg
Mcdirtysweets 1 year ago
so this gun replaced the old slg and the new reflex replaced the old pmr?
neilgatpandan 1 year ago
PM8 FTW
colonials74 1 year ago
idc DYE! everyone knows rails suck so stop trying
CmErC94 1 year ago
needless to say SOME idiot will buy it
TimmyDizzle115 1 year ago
the other rails are prolly a little better...
usikus 1 year ago