V-22 Osprey Cockpit. $30 Billion Tiltrotor turboprop VTOL/STOL Automatic Heli-airplane #2

[flightsafecompany95]

Awsome!



[KartAnimal29]

waste of money

[n4120p]

highly compromised sofistication ,, too expensive too unreliable ,, contractors made a ton of money for the last 25 years,,,

[joetioeb]

This thing must be quite complicated to fly, switching between airplane and helicopter flying concepts...

[MrDieseltwitch]

@joetioeb Thats all done with a computer, they spent a lot of time trying to figure how to make that work. What they came up with is some complex mixing ageratum that uses, forward airspeed, nacelle pitch angle, and a few other things to calculate the different controls. Sadly no one out side of the mfg knows what that formal is. At least no one i've talked to. I know for sure its not a liner % curve

[AccordGTR]

From Airforcetimes website: crash investigation of Osprey in Qalat Afghan. April 2010 revealed engine failure. Military wanted chief investigator to change his report to "pilot error". "The stresses of flying in the dirt and dust of Afghanistan probably caused the engine problems" BGen. Harvel, chief investigator said. He was not allowed to brief the families of the 4 KIA onboard. Maybe Airforce wants to coverup the reliability problems of this overpriced $67M helo?

[StreifProductions]

From a human factors standpoint, wouldn't have it been smarter to implement a collective rather than a throttle control? It seems the designer was a jet jockey who wanted to to dabble in rotor-craft

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[Kristiants1]

@StreifProductions To me it seems easier the way it is! Helicopter mode: More throttle- goes up. Less throttle- goes down. | Plane mode: More throttle- goes faster. Less throttle- goes slower. :P

[fazedsatchel]

@Kristiants1 Airplanes: Push = more power, Pull = less power.

Helicopters: Pull = more power, Push = less power.

[Kristiants1]

@fazedsatchel Yes, in real life! I like it like a sim better, though. And besides, I was saying how it is now. It makes more sense to me the way they did it on the Osprey because it controls engine power, correct me if I'm wrong. When the nacelles are pointed up: throttle forward, more engine power, lift factor increased, goes up. When the nacelles are pointed forward, throttle forward, more engine power, thrust factor increased, goes faster.

[Kristiants1]

@fazedsatchel Also, wouldn't it be kind of hard to flip the controls halfway, when the nacelles are at a 45 degree angle, because then the controls would be halfway reversed, meaning it wouldn't do anything whether you push the throttle forward or backward, right? ;)

[Kristiants1]

@fazedsatchel Another thing; maybe it's just me, but I think physics wise. I think in my head: Since the nacelles are up, more throttle means more pull from the rotors, and that equals lift. When the nacelles are forward, more throttle means more pull from the rotors, but since they're pointing FORWARD, than the thrust pulls it FORWARD. Do you see how I think? ;) <<<I can think that in about 2.5 seconds. Imagine the rest of my day! XD

[mdapson]

@fazedsatchel

Throttle vs collective isn't an issue in practice.

[Kristiants1]

@StreifProductions Well then you would be saying "From a human factors standpoint, wouldn't have been smarter to implement a throttle control rather than a collective? It seems the designer was a rotor-craft jockey who wanted to dabble in jets" Us humans can sometimes never be happy...I call it a lose-lose situation. One way we aren't happy, and the other way we aren't either.

[ShinaBurn]

Were there kids on the plane lol?