427. Step two of how to make Steve's Sweet Garden pond. Goldfish pond digging...

[stevenfebus14]

when is he next video of this pond coming



[steben01]

Love this Dustin, I had a pond dug with a plastic sandpit shell used then we wanted bigger. Dug out more then lined with plastic but it had small holes somewhere and leaked. Looking at this its exactly what I want to do, how will you seal it?

Cheers

Steve

[WindMadeSolid]

@steben01 I think they're just going to use a black pond liner from Lowes or Home Depot.. just put the liner in the hole, fill it up with water, and line it with rocks and cut away the excess.. I think something like that. Sorry if I'm wrong.

[SarniaLute]

The depth is fine, down where you guys are. Those who say otherwise haven't got a clue. Likely they are drawing their knowledge from having read a book or two written by someone in L.A. Goldfish are rock-solid hardy and go into a dormancy in the mud through winter. They are fine under solid ice for months. Some of the fancies may be sensitive to cold. I don't know: I have no experience with them. Many tank-keepers have a total disconnect with the fact that they are keeping wild animals.

[10kpondguy]

@SarniaLute fish cant go into dormant mode in mud, if its a liner pond. besides, it would kill them, they would suffocate under ice, for months, no gas exchange taking place? in a small pond like this one? would kill them by spring. lucky for them, it wont freeze over... i do know though, i didnt read any books, i have real experience keeping very expensive koi, to cheap ass goldfish, to big arowana.....you should really do some research before making a bold, extremely wrong statement like that.

[SarniaLute]

@10kpondguy I have experience, and can only reiterate my reply to this response. How did arowanas work their way in here? Are crocodiles next? I have no experience with liner ponds: only concrete... two feet deep. No problem if frozen up in winter. I also already stated that I don't know about fancies. Needless to say (hopefully) that this wouldn't be good news in the Midwest or Fairbanks! Some prefer latching on to a rule before thinking about whether or not it's applicable to the circumstances

[10kpondguy]

@SarniaLute lol, ok bud.

[jshremshock]

ive had fancy gold fish last through three generations up in columbus ohio winters

[Dustinsfishtanks]

@jshremshock C-Bus!  Goldfish dominate...I am not sure about the orandas...we shall see gotta try one.

[JUNAID187]

Fancy goldfish usually die in freezing conditions and goldfish produce alot of waste. A big ass filter will be required or you will get too much waste + amonia and nitrates and your pond will look like mushy peas lol.

[10kpondguy]

first things first, fish surviving winter requires MINIMUM of 2.5-3.5 ft. if this is as deep as it is, the first hard freeze, everything will die. second, you MUST use some type of filter to take some of the bio load, expecting plants to take care of all of it is ignorant. that will lead to terrible water quality for fish. third, the heat, that pond is very, very shallow, it will change temp very rapidly in summer, this stresses even goldfish. anything over 70-75 is danger zone for golds and koi

[Dustinsfishtanks]

@10kpondguy well i hate to disagree with you but i kept my goldfish ABOVE ground in a pond all winter and they were fine. Our winters aren't that bad. He plans on putting a filter on for sure. I am trying to get him to go deeper just because, but i am positive he would be ok at this depth...

[SarniaLute]

@Dustinsfishtanks Right on.

[10kpondguy]

@Dustinsfishtanks well, i only know from 10+ years experience keeping all different types of fish(lots of trial and error). hopefully he decides to go deeper. im sure he will, ponds are addictive, and you only get bigger and bigger on them. ill give it a year, and he will want it twice the size it is. lol

[UKNMajor]

@10kpondguy Lol that's rubbish, or my fish would of been dead 5 years ago. They were in 1 foot of water one year in a very bad freeze and survived.

[10kpondguy]

@UKNMajor i very much doubt it. i would love to see this horrible pond your talking about....who brags about damn near killing their fish they keep in 12in of water? you agree that their should be no filter system besides plants to filter out wastes and keep the pond healthy? im trying to understand what your saying here. ive been keeping for a long long time, more than enough to stand behind my opinion. ive seen first hand whole ponds die off from exactly these circumstances....

[UstadZed]

its looking good man.. keep it going.

[mewanb]

orandas will survive but i would make it a bit deeper and get some koi and comets!

[noapwns379]

dig the pond alittle deeper and put some koi in their, you guys are rockin the plain white T's btw lol

[TheRossiboy]

If the pond has a good depth then orandas should be alright...I've got a redcap in my pond although it hasn't been out in winter

[xAutumnWaves]

make the pond into the shape of a fish <3

[eurasianchica]

You live in the midwest right? I don't think orandas will survive the winter here...they are too mutated and inbred so their hardiness is really bad. Some more moderate goldfish like shubunkin or fantail would work better...of course common goldfish (very beautiful and they grow huge!) are the best for ponds.

[WindMadeSolid]

All the articles I've read have said that Orandas can't tolerate cold below 50F and that they're one of the more fragile kinds of Goldfish so I'll see how they do in the winter in my pond.. but I live in Southern California so it rarely gets below freezing down here. When I re-do my pond it'll be in grow like you guys are doing. Can't wait to see more of the process!

[pilipinofaze]

Common Goldfish can be kept outdoors if the pond doesn't freeze or drop below 5°C (41°F) . Fancy Goldfish will not tolerate colder temperatures as they are more delicate

[samuelwaynefoleyjr]

i'd put the pump right in the deepest part of the pond so it filters it all out so gravity will push it down and all

[manta965]

@samuelwaynefoleyjr lol gravity has nothing to do with where water goes in a pond the temp of the water defines where the water lies in the water column

[samuelwaynefoleyjr]

@manta965 what are you talking about man , if they fish poop over time the waste will go down hill if you put the filter or pump in the center of a pond where everything is getting sucked into one area it will get pulled in easier

[samuelwaynefoleyjr]

just think about it if you put the pump in the deepest part everything (including waste) will get sucked it a lotttt easier

[manta965]

@samuelwaynefoleyjr sorry was being stupid i was thinking about the water being filtered not the stuff in the water lol

[samuelwaynefoleyjr]

@manta965 haha its all good so you running a pond? tank?

[TheAquariumKid]

Steven kinda looks like Jimmy Carry. Well i hope i am saying the right guy anyway.

From a distance or when hes standing in the pond he does