Brits ask about the storm?? Well.....it's "God Bless America" working it's charm. I still love you Britannia....but America is where I live aand swear allegiance to.
@TheSmallfire66 Seriously? We know about the storm. The quote is from British historical records.
If it was God why didn't he strike before the battle? Why didn't he act before we set the place ablaze?
Fact is that storm killed more Americans who fled their homes & were with out shelter then it did British. The storm had no effect upon British who were already getting ready to move on to their next objective Baltimore.
For the people of Washington the storm was a nasty finish to a very bad day.
@SuperAngelblaze Yeah the British were not doing enough to destroy the city or kill enough people so God stepped in to help. If it was God why wait until the British had beaten the cities defenders?
The storm killed more Americans who had fled the city & were with out shelter then British who could shelter in abandoned homes.
For the people of Washington the storm was a nasty finish to a really bad day.
@agent1442 If you are referring to the riots in Baltimore then they were PRO war riots. A Federalist News paper condemned the war. Rather then mess around with sedition laws supporters of Madison & the War Hawks gathered together a large number of thugs & attacked the Newspaper editor in his home.
Then while in protective custody they attacked him again because he had complained about the attack.
Love it or leave it, there were no hippies in 1812 just Indians & you know what happened to them.
@Eddythebeast666 I was referring to the narration more than the actual event. That's the exact words of the guy in the vid, maybe they should have reworded that is what I was getting at.
The Anglo-Saxon Jute English Were Nothing More Than Murderer's And Rapist They Murdered The Native Briton's And Welsh Aswell As The Scot's Today There Descendants Can Be Found All Around The English Speaking World In Politics And High Up In Goverment Job's Too Control The World And Make War With Countries That Show The First Sign Of Wisdom.
@OVHELL696 Detail - The Welsh are/were the ancient Britons the Scots were originally from Ireland (Scoti). Between them the Scots and Saxons pushed the ancient Britons into Strathclyde, Cumbria (A Welsh name) and Wales. Wales is from the old English (Saxon) word for foreigner.
@schaferhund11 Posting proverbs & there by acknowledging the wisdom of the past is less common from those equipped with a penis whose egos tend to prevent them from giving due credit.
@schaferhund11 can be traced as far back as the early Egyptians, who recorded one such saying: 'Silence is more profitable than abundance of speech.' The current proverb was rendered for the first time in the Judaic Biblical commentaries called the 'Midrash' (c. 600), which gave the proverb as 'If speech is silvern, then silence is golden.' The poet Thomas Carlyle quoted this version in German in 'Sartor Resartus' , and soon after, the American poet James Russell Lowell quoted the exact wording
@nigee1970 Jon Stewart of the Daily show just got a "Pants on Fire" award last week for quoting History Channel. It had to do congress being open during Christmas for the first few years.
So history channel isn't doing a very good job of keeping Americans informed.
Its been nicknamed the Nazi Channel because for some reason after US history is seems the 2nd most covered topic is Nazi Germany.
As if the rest of the world or even Germany never had any history except for that.
This documentary is so biased!!!!!!! I hope all you people know that the Americans burned down Canada's then capital buildings in York (Toronto). The burning of Washington D.C was done in retaliation for the burning of Canada's capital buildings in York.
Still, giving some 4 seconds of audio explanation to the provoking event then giving 15 minutes of weeping mothers, wrath of God storms & picture saving first ladies does tend to support the view the show is biased.
@GothicCrow1818 New Orleans had become US territory with the Louisiana purchase 1804 but they were not a state & had no representational voice in congress. The people were French with some Spanish no one asked them what they wanted. Napoleon was an Emperor not an elected leader, he sold their lands to the US. That was that. As you say the Rev war wasn't exactly democratic there was no public vote on the issue, thus no mandate from the people to rebel but that is complicated in its own way.
@GothicCrow1818 Now the Natives who joined Jackson later cursed the day they met him wishing they had killed him the first time they laid eyes upon him.
The freed Slaves certainly who fought on the US side would have done better under British rule & unlike Quebec which is still French New Orleans is not.
Of course since the Ghent treaty had been signed even if Britain had won it still would have gone back to the US so the battle is only relevant for meaningless death.
@GothicCrow1818 As nigee1970 pointed out "Everything that could go wrong for the Brits that fateful day did." Even so it was closer then most realize. The Brits did turn the flank. If it had happened earlier the American line would have collapsed & been over run. As it was it made no difference.
Also lets give the devil his due. Jackson assembled an excellent defense. Threatened to destroy New Orleans himself so had a gun to the heads of locals. Disrupted British preparations with night attack.
@VioletDay3820 Hey I'm providing references to my points. When I Say Britain advanced freedom in the world more then the US did.
To persist in the claims you've been making when historical evidence does not support it means you are at the very lest not being honest with your self.
@VioletDay3820 Freedom of religion unless they are Muslim & want to build a community center even blocks away from the Ground zero site. Unless they are black & have their churches fire bombed. Free to be atheists but still have Christianity shoved in their faces on the very money issued by the state.
It has to be more then a motto to mean anything.
If your nation was free they wouldn't have to sneak in & hide would they? Your land hasn't been free since you stole it from the Natives.
@VioletDay3820 We were not trying to reign anybody in, we were trying to curb down on smuggling and illegality, and get the Americans to pay their fair share of taxes for their protection, which up until then were paid for predominantly by the British taxpayer. Britain had just been economically devastated by the Seven Years War and needed drastic reform to recoup those losses. As soon as the wealthy American merchants began losing money due to British actions, rebellion broke out.
@VioletDay3820 Im not saying we went out with the intention of doing it, we didnt. We were ruled by self interest, but we admit it, America however seems to present this huge facade of fighting for democracy and freedom, ideals that were already flourishing in Britain. Our ideals of parliamentary democracy, free trade etc serve as our lasting legacy, and nations like Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc are among the most stable and peaceful countries in the world.
@VioletDay3820 Where does the U.S get off lecturing people on freedom? Britain and its Empire was responsible far more for the spread of "freedom" across the world than America ever was, in fact America has never been concerned with freedom, only self interest. All they gained from independence was the ability to spread westward at the Natives expense.
I think this may have been asked before but what did America gain from independence in 1783 that Canada did not gain in 1867?
@VioletDay3820 Here we are on a video that relentlessly bashes British. Completely mischaracterizing the events of this war. 200 years later & the makers of the show are still poisoned by hate, refusing to acknowledge US belligerence that led to the war.
Did you think no one would challenge these lies? This is not some innocent promotion of US culture but a racist hate fest that reduces Natives to mere British pawns.
@VioletDay3820 The Quebec act protected French Catholics by granting them British citizenship & that was labeled as one of the intolerable acts by your founding fathers who were mostly Anglican.
You guys use Freedom as a slogan but did a piss poor job of promoting it in the world, even your own nation.
@VioletDay3820 You single out British Anglican because you are taught they are the enemy. Enemies of freedom, religious intolerance, tyrannical Kings, but that is 200 year old propaganda. Haven't you grown enough as a nation to take a more critical eye at your history?
The religious issue was a tiny factor in migration & religious colonies were no where near as successful as those established by greed. Cotton, tobacco, sugar, spices, that is what the US grew from. How big did the Amish get?
@VioletDay3820 They have persecuted us for our beliefs. The same bastards that bitched about lacking religious freedom in Europe. Thing is even adopting their Christian faith didn't spare us they still slaughtered us like animals.
The Protestant Reformation wasn't just Catholic's trying to crush upstart variations of Christianity. Every fraction that established itself was equally intolerant of all other faiths.
You single out British Anglican because you are taught they are the enemy.
@VioletDay3820 The Commonwealth is quite voluntary. Any former nation of the Empire can join. Only 13 or so states of the US would qualify. LOL
I asked you why do you think your numbers matter?
Oh so its OK to commit genocide on Native peoples if you are saving some weird religious folks from Europe. Its not as if the US ever had problems with Irish is it? (New York City draft riots 1863)
@VioletDay3820 When the US burned Newark over 100 women & children froze to death before help could arrive that's when the war got brutal. Whose choice was that?
There are many shames my blood line carries I do not boast of them nor do I blame the US or others for our failings. We remember our mistakes & learn from them.
How could we hope to become better people if we do not?
What is this show? Explain to me how editing 2 years of the war, the invasions of Canada & Tecumseh, serve to teach?
@VioletDay3820 2nd class citizens was a big step up from Natives or slaves both who received citizenship & freedom generations earlier under British rule then in the States.
Locus swarm in billions are they better then Americans? Besides there are 2 billion people in the British commonwealth, why does that matter?
Those who left Europe for the US did so with greed for Native Lands & were quick to persecute others for their own advancement. How are they better then those who wronged them?
@VioletDay3820 You were British when Britain made peace with Natives & began reforming colonial policy you broke with Britain & became Americans.
That was your chance to become a better people then who you were as British but that is not the path your nation followed.
You did not become a peaceful people. You broke with your homeland & shed the blood of your kin Murdered your neighbors & took their lands. You could not even live in harmony with your selves.Your troubles you created for yourself
@VioletDay3820 I'm part Mi'kmaq I'm living in Canada with a British Queen tell me again about this taking land that has been going on since the beginning of time, I've never heard of it?
When British acted like bastards I'd be happy to curse their names. Pricks like Amherst are not forgotten but they were not the moral degenerates in this war.
@VioletDay3820 No. The settlers were on land they had no right to take. The Natives had every right to defend from invaders. Since the Natives were living peacefully with British settlers why wouldn't we sell them weapons? Are Native people not allowed to buy guns in the USA?
@VioletDay3820 That was my point Britain's actions were the same as any Nation would have done in their place.
For Madison to demand Britain stop trading with Natives whom you were at war while demanding the right to trade with Napoleon whom Britain was at war is called Hypocrisy.
@VioletDay3820 Britain's last conflict with North American Natives was the Pontiac war the US could have lived in peace with them if the US wanted to.
Yes I would do the same as I'm sure the US would do. If there was a threat coming from commerce with a hostile nation I'm sure every one would want to limit their trading options.
For example Madison wanted Britain to stop trading with Natives whom the US were trying to exterminate.
@VioletDay3820 Louisiana Purchase was for land that was not Frances to sell, it was expansion in to those lands that brought the US in to conflict with Natives & funding a tyrant bent on conquering Europe fits the qualification of nefarious perfectly.
@VioletDay3820 I'm familiar with the Embargo Act of 1807 that is largely what estranged the New England States. Changes nothing of what I said just confirms it.
You tell me, Israel is Blockading ships to Palestine are they the bad guys?
The Northern states kidnapped Canadians & forced them to serve in the Union army during your civil war, a practice called "Crimping" was that OK?
We are not talking about something the US has never done your selves since.
@VioletDay3820 ...ready to secede from the Union via the Hartford Convention.
Nor was the Louisiana Purchase some innocent land deal. Napoleon boasted about getting the US to attack Britain. In it self it allowed Napoleon to concentrate his military efforts in Europe & US gold funded his armies.
That is what inspired Britain's heavy handed treatment of US ships at sea.
US historians like to get cute about the details of this war misrepresenting the facts same as the Rev war.
@VioletDay3820 This wasn't the Revolutionary war, the US had since built a strong trade relation with Britain & had the Quasi War with France.
Fact is Madison & the War Hawks feared the growing influence of the Federalist states whose wealth & power came from trade with Britain.
That's why impressment was the main issue. It undercut the Anti War Federalists who suffered impressment more then anyone else & why in spite of that so opposed the war that they were ready to secede from the Union.
They didn't hate the British because Britain was vital to defeating Napoleon. Britain stood beside all of free Europe.
The USA was a collaborator with Napoleon. There are some who defend Napoleon for the creation of the Napoleonic code & a few other social advances but he was not a democratically elected leader. He seized power in France & conquered most of Europe. The very definition of tyranny.
You can't defend US actions which was petty & opportunistic.
Wow you guys are full on...listen I study a bit of history and I ain't naive enough to believe everything put before me...wise man say "don't believe all the things you hear and only 50% of what you see" wise indeed..didn't bugsy mallone like the term..you dirty rascals...I'm sorry it just makes me LOL..thanks for the heads up...
@custer870 Thanks. This war is a tricky one to study. Far too many opinions & too few established facts. In part because the British didn't really care (Napoleon was their priority) & even as it was happening Americans were deeply divided by the issues. Nor do those official issues hold up very well to historical investigation. Madison spent his later years editing his own documents & many American news papers treated their readers like mushrooms.
Dammed rascals..4.50...LOL did he really say that...sounds s bit like elmer thudd..seriously though didn't know to much about this period..but biblical..come on plz..do you mean natural..
@custer870 The word had more weight in its day especially when used against British military who prided them selves upon discipline & adherence to the codes of war. The burning of Washington did cause outrage in London.
Sadly the whole show is so horribly slanted its almost a joke. Cutting out the 1st 2 years of the war, using Sept. 11th date to add impact (The battle was on the 13th), calling it an invasion when it was raids & claiming Britain intended conquest.
Why was attempt made by the British to reclaim the 13 colonies?Was it considered to big a job by then or were the people of the old coloies all American patriots by then?I remember reading that during the time of the Independence struggle a third of folk were patriots a third British loyalist and the final third were just waiting on who won out.
@bazzatheblue By 1812 the loyalist of the Revolutionary war had all moved on or fallen from power. They never had great influence as there had been sympathy for the Rebels in British Parliament from the beginning.
The USA had become much more valuable as an Independent trading partner then it had ever been as a colony. That is why Canada was cut loose 1867, a business arrangement. There wasn't any real push from Canadians for independence. Not in 67.
@Eddythebeast666 oh i see,it was all down to money as usual.lol thankyou.I think Pitt was a sympathiser to the American cause ?If he had been in power at the time things may have not got so bloody and maybe a set up like Canada would have occurred?
@bazzatheblue Money represents the strings of power that control world events. Roman roads were not just for moving the Legions around they were trade routes, so it was with British domination of the seas.
Most of what we see in the Middle east now isn't just oil. It has to do with the Suez Canal as well.
Follow the money & things get clearer
It may seem like its just greed but try to see it as prosperity which is what everyone gets when things go right. War happens when one side gets greedy
@bazzatheblue Madison feared the close business dealings the Federalist of New England states had with Britain. They controlled a huge amount of the US economy & had great political influence in the US congress. That power went both ways as many members of British Parliament became wealthy from trade deals with an independent USA.
It was those business interests that ended impressment not the declaration of war.
I should point out the US trading with Napoleon wasn't just a military problem
we as Americans are always being watched and judged upon. Thebigfannofeminem you have to have more educated comments and restraint in your interactions with other countries on these discussions. If and when we go to war with someone is not something that is ever going to begin on a youtube page. Stop pretending and stop misrepresenting this country.
U.S.A. is not going to invade Canada or England. England does not control the American government and I wish you all found something much more worthwhile to debate and discuss. There are far less "trolls" in this country than what you actually think. I will not sit idle why someone belittles my country and I will not abide an uneducated warmonger to even remotely represent its people. You don't go around threatening to invade allied countries when you have no clout or way of defending your words
@nigee1970 You know I'm starting to wonder if these are really Americans.
I've been arguing with 2 trolls with accounts that claim they are Canadian but are quite obvously American pushing a Republican stile of government.
Now I know a few French Canadians who don't like the Monarchy at all but the thought of being more like the USA always stops them from complaining too loudly.
So if it is so easy for these guys to pretend to be Canadian how do we know if these trolls are really American?
@Eddythebeast666 you dpnt wanna help because your cowards I cant wait till america invades your country you would not stand a chance look what we did 2 iraq and afganastan 1 million innocent people dead death camps 4 terrorists you dont fuck with america!
@TheBigfanofeminem You will not invade Canada again because we already have taken control of your government & have been in control since the beginning. In the end the rebellion was forced to compromise & while gaining some independence remained subservient to the monarchy.
In 1812 you tried again but ultimately you gained nothing.
@THunterMeget Gods chosen people spent thousands of years wandering with out a homeland facing persecution & Holocaust.
God does not interfere in human free will. It rains upon the the holy & profane equally.
Was Katrina a message from God?
Besides Washington's streets are laid out in a Pentagram. From the result looks more like a devil's deal then an act of God. Sure you got your storm to strike the British but too late to do any good. More innocent citizens died then British.
@THunterMeget Where was your god when Jerusalem fell to Saladin? Where was he when the Arabs destroyed the crusader Kingdoms? When the Moors conquered most of deeply Christian Iberia? When the Mongols swept across Europe? When the Byzantine Empire fell?
If your God exists he is an extremely absentee figure who has left mankind to its own devises. Biblical cities whose actual existance remains in doubt do not prove his existance let alone his willingness to involve himself in the affairs of man.
@Ninja1275 I'm part Mi'kmaq I believe he was referring to that, but I'm used to Americans acting like that.
Some make a show of saying that its all part of the past but the very fact they made the effort to remove Tecumseh & almost any mention Natives from this documentary shows their bigotry.
They can't love their country with out hating us so they hate & tell their stories of how we some how deserve their treatment.
They don't like their British roots much ether. #LOL
What if Britain dint retreat because of the bad weather but because Madison wanted to gain the hearts of Americans and plan this invasion from the beginning?
@patrickpadilla92 British didn't retreat at all. Not from Bad weather or otherwise. The Public buildings had been burned, the job was done & the troops where needed to help in the attack on Baltimore. They left not retreated. Retreating implies they was a force to retreat from.
Madison was what some would call an ivory tower idealist with little grasp of practical operation of government. For example declaring war with an ill prepared military.
@ghostliner45 the Storm did more damage to Washington then the storm did to British if God wanted to step in you'd think he would act before the Battle that routed the cities defenders not wait till the city was in flames & the population had fled & was with out shelter.
For the people of Washington the storm was a nasty finish to a really bad day. #LOL
The Lord has His reasons for everything. And i don't know all there is about the Lord, but i do know this. With the help of God we kicked the British the heck out! They are low life Socialist pieces of trash!!!!!!!!! AND THEY ARE WATCHING OUR MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@THunterMeget The French had a hell of a lot more to do with America gaining its independence than God did and Napoleon was responsible for the War of 1812 being fought in the first place. Since God wasn't a Frenchman and both the British and United States were proud Christian nation I hardly think you can claim any help from God. Religious zelotism wont get you far in a historical debate.
@lolzgunner101 They use a British soldiers first hand account but then embellish upon it. They embellish a huge amount to the point that actual historical details are down played in favor of "the hand of God struck down the British"
Tacky, misinformative & offensive.
Why not include the fact that the poorer class of Washington took the British occupation as an opportunity to loot the homes of those who fled? Or
@Sturmmann Actually the poorer population of Washington had started looting the homes of the rich doing far worse damage then the British had done as the British had limited themselves to the Public buildings.
If this was a biblical storm then it seems God believed the British had not done enough to punish the people of Washington who were in fact building the streets of Washington in to a huge Satanic symbol.
Goggle "Satanic streets Washington" see for your self.
@nigee1970 We can't dismiss American accusations entirely. Impressment put a weapon in the hands of pro war Americans to use against those who wanted peaceful trade with Britain. In short it did play a role just not exactly as Americans are willing to admit.
@Eddythebeast666 Just curious, but how many actual invasions of Canada were there? Im aware of all of the battles but haven't really figured them out in order, other than the beginning with William Hull and Detroit etc, and the last with the battles of Chippawa and Lundy's Lane.
@Ninja1275 3 main waves of attacks with multiple prongs to each assault. If you want to really get confused try adding in all the attacks on the Native front like the Red stick Creek civil war where Jackson was busy most of the war.
We Really don't give Natives enough credit for keeping the Yanks busy.
@nigee1970 Yes, the Napoleonic was a desperate war but keeping that war from expanding did play a diplomatic role.
The US had real leverage to shape British policy. Not just strong arm but trade with the US fattened the bank accounts of many British Ministers of Parliament.Things were chaotic in Parliament King George III had slipped back in to madness putting an unfriendly regent on the throne & the assassination of the British Prime Minister Spencer Perceval in 11 May 1812 policy was a mess.
@nigee1970 See there never was a deliberate policy to Impress Americans to begin with. Most were accidental. We Impressed British citizens but there was so much trade between US & Britain & so many sailors of that shared commerce it was not uncommon for sailors of one Nation to be found on Merchant ships of another. When you factor in Loyalists born in America but still British citizens it become impossible to have any impressment with out some Americans getting swept up.
@nigee1970 Thanks for high praise. My ancestors go back to early colonial history so I've gotten insights few can boast of on these events.
As I explained in the PM. Both are true. We never repealed impresment at the US request but because the need had ended with Napoleons defeat. Before that news reached the US they had declared war & given the marching orders to invade Canada.
Impressment was never the real issue. It was a means to undercut the anti war Federalists in congress.
@nigee1970 Ive heard that as well, and im not too sure. I've heard that both Britain and France practiced Impressment, and the United States sent demands to both countries for this to cease, and both countries complied. But Britains response didn't reach America until after the war had been declared.
I suppose they may have agreed to cease due to the US's demands, but maybe rescinded this and took up the practice again with the advent of war?
@Ninja1275 As I explained in a PM to nigee1970. Both are true. We never repealed impresment at the US request but because the need had ended with Napoleons defeat. Before that news reached the US they had declared war & given the marching orders to invade Canada.
Impressment was never the real issue. It was a means for Madison & the war hawks to undercut the anti war Federalists in congress.
Those states who wanted the war were never impressed from. The states that did suffer impressment antiwar
Look you Canadians & Brits, this is true history like it or not. Don't forget that the British impressed American saIlors & INVADED the U.S. and Canada harbored & fought with British troops so everything you got you deserved & no burning Washington is not equal to burning York. The British military were the evil tyrants in this war like it or not, This documantary is true & correct like it or not.
@Medmann48 Impressment was never a true issue, it was wildly exaggerated by the American Government and it had been resolved diplomatically before the war had even began. Not only that the States that actually suffered from the policy were all completely against the war, so much so that in 1815 they drew up the Hartford Convention and actually threatened to secede. France had continually violated the US's shipping and trading rights (far more than Britain) but war was never declared on them.
@Medmann48 Canada did not "harbour" British troops, it was a British Colony. The War was a result of the War Hawks in Congress and their desire to annex Canada and kick the British from North America, Impressment was the moral justification, just like slavery and the Civil War
There was only a very small amout of British Soldiers in Canada, no more than 3000, compared to the army the US mustered. The US had every advantage possible going into this war, Britains attention was focused on Europe.
@Medmann48 I fail to see how the innocent people of Canada, who had escaped from American persecution during the Revolution, got "everything they deserved", they banded together and alongside the Natives and British regulars, defeated multiple American invasions.
Britains "invasions" of the US were in actual fact large raids, designed to give "Ultimate security to His Majesty’s Possessions in America".
@Medmann48 And they would have continued, had Napoleon not returned from exile, sparking the Hundred Days Offensive.
As for the burning of Washington not being equal to York, utter crap. York was a major city, but Washington was your capital, you would have had to burn down the Houses of Parliament in London to get back at us for that one. Besides, after the Burning of Washington there was no question in you governments mind that the war had to end, which it eventually did.
Ninja1275 and Eddythebeast666 why are you hating on the Usa so much? it's not perfect we've made some mistakes we know this and yes china is becoming More and more rich and powerful most Americans know this If you watch the news over here in the Usa Then you will see we know we're in trouble We know we have a Huge dept problem and are economy Isn't doing so well and we have an unemployment problem we're trying to fix these things but it's not easy D:
@leeon00 Im not hating on the USA, ive got family over in the states and ive been there several times, its a great place.
I simply cant stand this type of revisionist history which portrays one nation as the good guys and everyone else as the bad guys, especially when the United States during the war of 1812 has absolutely nothing to brag about.
How would you like it if a British documentary basically showed the Brits as squeaky clean do-gooders, and the Americans as evil tyrants?
@Ninja1275 To be honest i wouldn't really care but i don't like this documentary either so we shouldn't make such a big deal about it we should just try to find another one to watch or read a book about it or something instead of complaining about this one D: There are good documentary's and bad ones Lets just say this one is a bad one and move on :/
@leeon00 I've no problem with the US I have served in the Canadian military & consider them a valuable ally.
That does not mean I'm going to let pass an insult of the magnitude of this show.
Why produce such a hate filled show. It revives 200 year old anti British propaganda that was dubious back then & presents it as established historical fact.
Why insult us like this? To flatter American egos?
At least the comment section gives me a platform to express my outrage at the abuse.
@Eddythebeast666 I don't know why they would do it either go ask them there's no point in posting 50 comments just to complain about a bad documentary That's all im saying o3o
@nigee1970 it would a cold day in hell when the asiatics outshine the anglo-saxons. in the 1980s, the scarecrow was japan. now it is china. tomorrow will be india, and next week, nigeria. those are good stuff for the news media to sell their ware. i hope u do not believe that countries that WE BUILT via our cash investments and technology tranfere to make our goods, are about to seize the world mastery from us masters of technology, money and diplomacy? Smokes and mirrors, good Sir, smokes and.
@hotboyclarence You mean Asiatics that had advanced metal working while we barely mastered copper? The inventors of Gun powder and those same rockets that you have mentioned in your National anthem?
Those Asiatics?
Seriously?
The only thing holding them back now is the lack of a democratic system. They have barely started with capitalism & look at them.
All our power was based upon exploiting weaker cultures, as those cultures developed our power waned.
@Eddythebeast666 I am sorry, I forgot that Archimedes, Democrites, Socrates, Aristotle, Avicenna, Algorismus, Newton, Faraday, Einstein, the Wright Brothers, Edison, Bell, Marconi...... were all Asiatics! My apologies to you and all other Asiatics for having forgotten their great contribution to the human technology and civilization.
@hotboyclarence Domestication of wheat and peas, Domestication of sheep, Domestication of cats, Domestication of cattle, Invention of pottery, Weaving of the first cloth, Domestication of chickens, Discovery of alcoholic drinks, Domestication of rice, Invention of the Wheel,Invention of silk cloth, Invention of written language, Invention of glass, Invention of soap, Invention of ink, Invention of the parasol, Invention of irrigation canals, Invention of cartography (map-making)
Listen, your attitude & bigotry is pretty offensive. I don't know what your problem is but if deliberate ignorance is your response to the precived threat of a shift in power as China becomes the top economy fine with me.
Your solution of sticking your head in a dark place says all anyone needs to know about you.
@hotboyclarence "China is the poorest country on earth" No its not you imbecile, its economy is rising at an alarmingly fast rate and will very soon surpass your own countries wealth. Whether it steps up and assumes de facto world control is another thing, but if it does then it cant be much worse than the US causing wars over greed and money.
Just look at how many items bear a tag saying "Made in China". Everyday we are contributing to their eventual rise.
Brits ask about the storm?? Well.....it's "God Bless America" working it's charm. I still love you Britannia....but America is where I live aand swear allegiance to.
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@TheSmallfire66 Seriously? We know about the storm. The quote is from British historical records.
If it was God why didn't he strike before the battle? Why didn't he act before we set the place ablaze?
Fact is that storm killed more Americans who fled their homes & were with out shelter then it did British. The storm had no effect upon British who were already getting ready to move on to their next objective Baltimore.
For the people of Washington the storm was a nasty finish to a very bad day.
Eddythebeast666 1 day ago
Such American Propaganda and folklore.
2TomDog 3 days ago
LMAO dam nature you scary.. Great serious though interesting accurate
RonPaul2012vote123 2 weeks ago
Holy s*** no way can a Hercucane happen that fast and a tornado it's like god him self was there
SuperAngelblaze 2 weeks ago
@SuperAngelblaze Yeah the British were not doing enough to destroy the city or kill enough people so God stepped in to help. If it was God why wait until the British had beaten the cities defenders?
The storm killed more Americans who had fled the city & were with out shelter then British who could shelter in abandoned homes.
For the people of Washington the storm was a nasty finish to a really bad day.
Eddythebeast666 2 weeks ago
Am I the only one who sees the irony in a 'violent anti-war demonstration?'
agent1442 3 weeks ago
@agent1442 If you are referring to the riots in Baltimore then they were PRO war riots. A Federalist News paper condemned the war. Rather then mess around with sedition laws supporters of Madison & the War Hawks gathered together a large number of thugs & attacked the Newspaper editor in his home.
Then while in protective custody they attacked him again because he had complained about the attack.
Love it or leave it, there were no hippies in 1812 just Indians & you know what happened to them.
Eddythebeast666 2 weeks ago
@Eddythebeast666 I was referring to the narration more than the actual event. That's the exact words of the guy in the vid, maybe they should have reworded that is what I was getting at.
agent1442 2 weeks ago
@agent1442 Yes I agree but they were not trying to give viewers an accurate impression of events.
The show is just terrible.
Eddythebeast666 2 weeks ago
Nature fucking rocks!
cokebaronacn 1 month ago
When you play with fire you are gonna get burned
79tazman 1 month ago
I bet the Americans were not so glad they started war with the brits when Washington was burning down
79tazman 1 month ago
The Anglo-Saxon Jute English Were Nothing More Than Murderer's And Rapist They Murdered The Native Briton's And Welsh Aswell As The Scot's Today There Descendants Can Be Found All Around The English Speaking World In Politics And High Up In Goverment Job's Too Control The World And Make War With Countries That Show The First Sign Of Wisdom.
OVHELL696 1 month ago
@OVHELL696 Detail - The Welsh are/were the ancient Britons the Scots were originally from Ireland (Scoti). Between them the Scots and Saxons pushed the ancient Britons into Strathclyde, Cumbria (A Welsh name) and Wales. Wales is from the old English (Saxon) word for foreigner.
freebeerfordworkers 1 month ago
@freebeerfordworkers
Don't forget the Cornish. They (along with the Welsh) were also the original Britons.
trouzerpants 1 month ago
@trouzerpants Sorry! How could I forget Kernow when I go there 3X a year!
freebeerfordworkers 1 month ago
british as damn rascals for burning the white house when they burnt down our parlement first?
kalmec100 1 month ago
@kalmec100 serves the Brtiish right
joshll2007 1 month ago
@joshll2007 Serves the British very well indeed. Got everything they wanted didn't they.
Eddythebeast666 1 month ago
@nigee1970 It's the history channel.
They call Mayans aliens.
Did you expect anything competent from this?
dra900nka1n 1 month ago
@schaferhund11 Posting proverbs & there by acknowledging the wisdom of the past is less common from those equipped with a penis whose egos tend to prevent them from giving due credit.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 I should have guessed. LOL all the best too you.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 I yield the field to your superior mastery of of proverbs Sir.
Bravo.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 That one stays pretty much the same.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 Sadly that one loses a lot of its class in English.
Don't count your chickens before they are hatched
recorded in print by Thomas Howell in New Sonnets and pretty Pamphlets, 1570
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 I prefer-
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Mark Twain
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 can be traced as far back as the early Egyptians, who recorded one such saying: 'Silence is more profitable than abundance of speech.' The current proverb was rendered for the first time in the Judaic Biblical commentaries called the 'Midrash' (c. 600), which gave the proverb as 'If speech is silvern, then silence is golden.' The poet Thomas Carlyle quoted this version in German in 'Sartor Resartus' , and soon after, the American poet James Russell Lowell quoted the exact wording
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@schaferhund11 He who laughs last is the slowest one to figure out the joke. ;D
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@nigee1970 Not much left of him to pick at after you guys got done with him. LOL
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@nigee1970 Jon Stewart of the Daily show just got a "Pants on Fire" award last week for quoting History Channel. It had to do congress being open during Christmas for the first few years.
So history channel isn't doing a very good job of keeping Americans informed.
Its been nicknamed the Nazi Channel because for some reason after US history is seems the 2nd most covered topic is Nazi Germany.
As if the rest of the world or even Germany never had any history except for that.
Sad, just sad.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
This documentary is so biased!!!!!!! I hope all you people know that the Americans burned down Canada's then capital buildings in York (Toronto). The burning of Washington D.C was done in retaliation for the burning of Canada's capital buildings in York.
TheBreakonthrough 2 months ago
@TheBreakonthrough That was mentioned at around 6 minutes into Part 2
zancospancos 2 months ago
@zancospancos Correct.
Still, giving some 4 seconds of audio explanation to the provoking event then giving 15 minutes of weeping mothers, wrath of God storms & picture saving first ladies does tend to support the view the show is biased.
Eddythebeast666 2 months ago
@GothicCrow1818 New Orleans had become US territory with the Louisiana purchase 1804 but they were not a state & had no representational voice in congress. The people were French with some Spanish no one asked them what they wanted. Napoleon was an Emperor not an elected leader, he sold their lands to the US. That was that. As you say the Rev war wasn't exactly democratic there was no public vote on the issue, thus no mandate from the people to rebel but that is complicated in its own way.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@GothicCrow1818 Now the Natives who joined Jackson later cursed the day they met him wishing they had killed him the first time they laid eyes upon him.
The freed Slaves certainly who fought on the US side would have done better under British rule & unlike Quebec which is still French New Orleans is not.
Of course since the Ghent treaty had been signed even if Britain had won it still would have gone back to the US so the battle is only relevant for meaningless death.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@GothicCrow1818 As nigee1970 pointed out "Everything that could go wrong for the Brits that fateful day did." Even so it was closer then most realize. The Brits did turn the flank. If it had happened earlier the American line would have collapsed & been over run. As it was it made no difference.
Also lets give the devil his due. Jackson assembled an excellent defense. Threatened to destroy New Orleans himself so had a gun to the heads of locals. Disrupted British preparations with night attack.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Hey I'm providing references to my points. When I Say Britain advanced freedom in the world more then the US did.
To persist in the claims you've been making when historical evidence does not support it means you are at the very lest not being honest with your self.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Yes the US did steal through violence, trickery threats & lies.
Jackson threaten to burn New Orleans himself rather then let the population surrender to the British. If they had they probably still be French.
You nation agreed to artical IX of the Ghent treaty but still took Native lands.
You & this show are liars propagating lies.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Freedom of religion unless they are Muslim & want to build a community center even blocks away from the Ground zero site. Unless they are black & have their churches fire bombed. Free to be atheists but still have Christianity shoved in their faces on the very money issued by the state.
It has to be more then a motto to mean anything.
If your nation was free they wouldn't have to sneak in & hide would they? Your land hasn't been free since you stole it from the Natives.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Please answer the question, what did America gain that Canada didnt?
Canada today has a higher standard of living, better education, free healthcare etc. All in all a better place to live, what did you gain?
Ninja1275 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 We were not trying to reign anybody in, we were trying to curb down on smuggling and illegality, and get the Americans to pay their fair share of taxes for their protection, which up until then were paid for predominantly by the British taxpayer. Britain had just been economically devastated by the Seven Years War and needed drastic reform to recoup those losses. As soon as the wealthy American merchants began losing money due to British actions, rebellion broke out.
Ninja1275 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Im not saying we went out with the intention of doing it, we didnt. We were ruled by self interest, but we admit it, America however seems to present this huge facade of fighting for democracy and freedom, ideals that were already flourishing in Britain. Our ideals of parliamentary democracy, free trade etc serve as our lasting legacy, and nations like Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc are among the most stable and peaceful countries in the world.
Ninja1275 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Where does the U.S get off lecturing people on freedom? Britain and its Empire was responsible far more for the spread of "freedom" across the world than America ever was, in fact America has never been concerned with freedom, only self interest. All they gained from independence was the ability to spread westward at the Natives expense.
I think this may have been asked before but what did America gain from independence in 1783 that Canada did not gain in 1867?
Ninja1275 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Here we are on a video that relentlessly bashes British. Completely mischaracterizing the events of this war. 200 years later & the makers of the show are still poisoned by hate, refusing to acknowledge US belligerence that led to the war.
Did you think no one would challenge these lies? This is not some innocent promotion of US culture but a racist hate fest that reduces Natives to mere British pawns.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 The Quebec act protected French Catholics by granting them British citizenship & that was labeled as one of the intolerable acts by your founding fathers who were mostly Anglican.
You guys use Freedom as a slogan but did a piss poor job of promoting it in the world, even your own nation.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 You single out British Anglican because you are taught they are the enemy. Enemies of freedom, religious intolerance, tyrannical Kings, but that is 200 year old propaganda. Haven't you grown enough as a nation to take a more critical eye at your history?
The religious issue was a tiny factor in migration & religious colonies were no where near as successful as those established by greed. Cotton, tobacco, sugar, spices, that is what the US grew from. How big did the Amish get?
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 They have persecuted us for our beliefs. The same bastards that bitched about lacking religious freedom in Europe. Thing is even adopting their Christian faith didn't spare us they still slaughtered us like animals.
The Protestant Reformation wasn't just Catholic's trying to crush upstart variations of Christianity. Every fraction that established itself was equally intolerant of all other faiths.
You single out British Anglican because you are taught they are the enemy.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 The Commonwealth is quite voluntary. Any former nation of the Empire can join. Only 13 or so states of the US would qualify. LOL
I asked you why do you think your numbers matter?
Oh so its OK to commit genocide on Native peoples if you are saving some weird religious folks from Europe. Its not as if the US ever had problems with Irish is it? (New York City draft riots 1863)
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 When the US burned Newark over 100 women & children froze to death before help could arrive that's when the war got brutal. Whose choice was that?
There are many shames my blood line carries I do not boast of them nor do I blame the US or others for our failings. We remember our mistakes & learn from them.
How could we hope to become better people if we do not?
What is this show? Explain to me how editing 2 years of the war, the invasions of Canada & Tecumseh, serve to teach?
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 2nd class citizens was a big step up from Natives or slaves both who received citizenship & freedom generations earlier under British rule then in the States.
Locus swarm in billions are they better then Americans? Besides there are 2 billion people in the British commonwealth, why does that matter?
Those who left Europe for the US did so with greed for Native Lands & were quick to persecute others for their own advancement. How are they better then those who wronged them?
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 You were British when Britain made peace with Natives & began reforming colonial policy you broke with Britain & became Americans.
That was your chance to become a better people then who you were as British but that is not the path your nation followed.
You did not become a peaceful people. You broke with your homeland & shed the blood of your kin Murdered your neighbors & took their lands. You could not even live in harmony with your selves.Your troubles you created for yourself
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 I'm part Mi'kmaq I'm living in Canada with a British Queen tell me again about this taking land that has been going on since the beginning of time, I've never heard of it?
When British acted like bastards I'd be happy to curse their names. Pricks like Amherst are not forgotten but they were not the moral degenerates in this war.
The USA was.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 No. The settlers were on land they had no right to take. The Natives had every right to defend from invaders. Since the Natives were living peacefully with British settlers why wouldn't we sell them weapons? Are Native people not allowed to buy guns in the USA?
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 That was my point Britain's actions were the same as any Nation would have done in their place.
For Madison to demand Britain stop trading with Natives whom you were at war while demanding the right to trade with Napoleon whom Britain was at war is called Hypocrisy.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Britain's last conflict with North American Natives was the Pontiac war the US could have lived in peace with them if the US wanted to.
Yes I would do the same as I'm sure the US would do. If there was a threat coming from commerce with a hostile nation I'm sure every one would want to limit their trading options.
For example Madison wanted Britain to stop trading with Natives whom the US were trying to exterminate.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 Louisiana Purchase was for land that was not Frances to sell, it was expansion in to those lands that brought the US in to conflict with Natives & funding a tyrant bent on conquering Europe fits the qualification of nefarious perfectly.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 I'm familiar with the Embargo Act of 1807 that is largely what estranged the New England States. Changes nothing of what I said just confirms it.
You tell me, Israel is Blockading ships to Palestine are they the bad guys?
The Northern states kidnapped Canadians & forced them to serve in the Union army during your civil war, a practice called "Crimping" was that OK?
We are not talking about something the US has never done your selves since.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 ...ready to secede from the Union via the Hartford Convention.
Nor was the Louisiana Purchase some innocent land deal. Napoleon boasted about getting the US to attack Britain. In it self it allowed Napoleon to concentrate his military efforts in Europe & US gold funded his armies.
That is what inspired Britain's heavy handed treatment of US ships at sea.
US historians like to get cute about the details of this war misrepresenting the facts same as the Rev war.
We know better.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 This wasn't the Revolutionary war, the US had since built a strong trade relation with Britain & had the Quasi War with France.
Fact is Madison & the War Hawks feared the growing influence of the Federalist states whose wealth & power came from trade with Britain.
That's why impressment was the main issue. It undercut the Anti War Federalists who suffered impressment more then anyone else & why in spite of that so opposed the war that they were ready to secede from the Union.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
4:48
Madison: "Those damned rascals!"
Ross: "lol u mad, president?" *trollface*
IAmTheStig320 3 months ago
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IAmTheStig320 3 months ago
@VioletDay3820 All of Europe hated who?
They didn't hate the British because Britain was vital to defeating Napoleon. Britain stood beside all of free Europe.
The USA was a collaborator with Napoleon. There are some who defend Napoleon for the creation of the Napoleonic code & a few other social advances but he was not a democratically elected leader. He seized power in France & conquered most of Europe. The very definition of tyranny.
You can't defend US actions which was petty & opportunistic.
Eddythebeast666 3 months ago
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"Damned rascals" lol
planetrockford 4 months ago
Wow you guys are full on...listen I study a bit of history and I ain't naive enough to believe everything put before me...wise man say "don't believe all the things you hear and only 50% of what you see" wise indeed..didn't bugsy mallone like the term..you dirty rascals...I'm sorry it just makes me LOL..thanks for the heads up...
custer870 4 months ago
@custer870 Thanks. This war is a tricky one to study. Far too many opinions & too few established facts. In part because the British didn't really care (Napoleon was their priority) & even as it was happening Americans were deeply divided by the issues. Nor do those official issues hold up very well to historical investigation. Madison spent his later years editing his own documents & many American news papers treated their readers like mushrooms.
Eddythebeast666 4 months ago
Dammed rascals..4.50...LOL did he really say that...sounds s bit like elmer thudd..seriously though didn't know to much about this period..but biblical..come on plz..do you mean natural..
custer870 4 months ago
@custer870 The word had more weight in its day especially when used against British military who prided them selves upon discipline & adherence to the codes of war. The burning of Washington did cause outrage in London.
Sadly the whole show is so horribly slanted its almost a joke. Cutting out the 1st 2 years of the war, using Sept. 11th date to add impact (The battle was on the 13th), calling it an invasion when it was raids & claiming Britain intended conquest.
A terrible show.
Eddythebeast666 4 months ago
3:34 FREAK WEATHER!!!!
madpigz777 5 months ago
Why was attempt made by the British to reclaim the 13 colonies?Was it considered to big a job by then or were the people of the old coloies all American patriots by then?I remember reading that during the time of the Independence struggle a third of folk were patriots a third British loyalist and the final third were just waiting on who won out.
bazzatheblue 5 months ago
@bazzatheblue no attempt made i mean.
bazzatheblue 5 months ago
@bazzatheblue By 1812 the loyalist of the Revolutionary war had all moved on or fallen from power. They never had great influence as there had been sympathy for the Rebels in British Parliament from the beginning.
The USA had become much more valuable as an Independent trading partner then it had ever been as a colony. That is why Canada was cut loose 1867, a business arrangement. There wasn't any real push from Canadians for independence. Not in 67.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 oh i see,it was all down to money as usual.lol thankyou.I think Pitt was a sympathiser to the American cause ?If he had been in power at the time things may have not got so bloody and maybe a set up like Canada would have occurred?
bazzatheblue 5 months ago
@bazzatheblue Money represents the strings of power that control world events. Roman roads were not just for moving the Legions around they were trade routes, so it was with British domination of the seas.
Most of what we see in the Middle east now isn't just oil. It has to do with the Suez Canal as well.
Follow the money & things get clearer
It may seem like its just greed but try to see it as prosperity which is what everyone gets when things go right. War happens when one side gets greedy
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@bazzatheblue Madison feared the close business dealings the Federalist of New England states had with Britain. They controlled a huge amount of the US economy & had great political influence in the US congress. That power went both ways as many members of British Parliament became wealthy from trade deals with an independent USA.
It was those business interests that ended impressment not the declaration of war.
I should point out the US trading with Napoleon wasn't just a military problem
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
we as Americans are always being watched and judged upon. Thebigfannofeminem you have to have more educated comments and restraint in your interactions with other countries on these discussions. If and when we go to war with someone is not something that is ever going to begin on a youtube page. Stop pretending and stop misrepresenting this country.
thinkANDcreate 5 months ago
U.S.A. is not going to invade Canada or England. England does not control the American government and I wish you all found something much more worthwhile to debate and discuss. There are far less "trolls" in this country than what you actually think. I will not sit idle why someone belittles my country and I will not abide an uneducated warmonger to even remotely represent its people. You don't go around threatening to invade allied countries when you have no clout or way of defending your words
thinkANDcreate 5 months ago
@nigee1970 You know I'm starting to wonder if these are really Americans.
I've been arguing with 2 trolls with accounts that claim they are Canadian but are quite obvously American pushing a Republican stile of government.
Now I know a few French Canadians who don't like the Monarchy at all but the thought of being more like the USA always stops them from complaining too loudly.
So if it is so easy for these guys to pretend to be Canadian how do we know if these trolls are really American?
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@nigee1970 shut your ass up american will invade you aswell
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@nigee1970 who do you think will win know? we got rangers and navy seals
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem Do you mean "now" instead of "know" ?
Quite typical, lose the argument so resort to making another, completely irrelevant one .
By the way, we got the 22nd Special Air Service :P
Ninja1275 5 months ago
@Ninja1275 Do the Gurkha still work for the Commonwealth? Those guys were scary.
Canada had the worlds longest sniper shot record for a few good years there & a Brit has it now.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Ninja1275 hope more terrorist blow up another bus/subway hahahhah
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem If you get your wish it will most likely be in the USA.
It's called Karma. Yours is bad.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem man, ur really crap at trolling
mrmemanme 5 months ago
@mrmemanme I agree.
Trolling is an art. If it is done well well even the victim can admire the form & style.
These guys ether lack the wit or simply don't care enough to put the effort in to it.
They are like blind monkeys throwing feces. They get themselves covered in what they are handling & It's entirely random if they hit anything.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@mrmemanme YA GOD DAMN DIRTY RASCALS!
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem Well that shows some attention to historical detail & humorous wit. I'll give it 7.5 out 10.
Ah hell deserves an 8. Well done.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 go watch "v" it's about what the uk will be like in 50 years
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem How much do you know about what inspired the themes of that Graphic novel?
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 yah YOU meaning the uk. your dictatorship and people rioting becasue they have no hope its already happening
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem That isn't what happened in the story.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem Nor is that what is happening in the UK. A stronger case could be made for that happening in the USA.
News July 4th weekend 2011
Mob in Peoria shoots fireworks at police, firefighters
MAYHEM IN MOBILE: 300+ fight on street corner, man shot in face
13 stabbed, shot in Boston in just 5 hours
CHICAGOLAND: 5 Dead, 23 Hurt Over Violent Holiday Weekend
4-Year-Old Boy Shot While Watching Baltimore Fireworks
2 Shot During Massive Brawl Outside Atlantic City Casino
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 o really...... the uk is weak they let the U.S do all the fighting in afganastan and iraq fucking pussy cunts
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem They were your wars Dude. The US did insist upon leading the way.
The problems with those wars have nothing to do with a lack of support.
The problems are all based upon spectacularly bad leadership.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 you dpnt wanna help because your cowards I cant wait till america invades your country you would not stand a chance look what we did 2 iraq and afganastan 1 million innocent people dead death camps 4 terrorists you dont fuck with america!
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem You will not invade Canada again because we already have taken control of your government & have been in control since the beginning. In the end the rebellion was forced to compromise & while gaining some independence remained subservient to the monarchy.
In 1812 you tried again but ultimately you gained nothing.
Watch "America Is Still A British Colony"
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 go listen to IM PROUND @ BE IN AMERICAN!!!!!! OWNAGE!!!!!!!
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
biased is what you call this
champion6341 5 months ago
Meh, the storm was worth it :P
Trialbystone17 5 months ago
Tell that to Sodom and Gamorra. Tell that to Jerico and Aye. Tell that to Cannan.
THunterMeget 6 months ago
@THunterMeget Gods chosen people spent thousands of years wandering with out a homeland facing persecution & Holocaust.
God does not interfere in human free will. It rains upon the the holy & profane equally.
Was Katrina a message from God?
Besides Washington's streets are laid out in a Pentagram. From the result looks more like a devil's deal then an act of God. Sure you got your storm to strike the British but too late to do any good. More innocent citizens died then British.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@THunterMeget Where was your god when Jerusalem fell to Saladin? Where was he when the Arabs destroyed the crusader Kingdoms? When the Moors conquered most of deeply Christian Iberia? When the Mongols swept across Europe? When the Byzantine Empire fell?
If your God exists he is an extremely absentee figure who has left mankind to its own devises. Biblical cities whose actual existance remains in doubt do not prove his existance let alone his willingness to involve himself in the affairs of man.
11nytram11 6 months ago
Does that meen you are from Canada? In that case you wouldn't even know what freedome is.
THunterMeget 6 months ago
@THunterMeget Free to murder Natives & take their lands.
I guess not.
I'm Native, there hasn't been freedom in North American since you idiots showed up.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 fuck you and your pathetic race LOL! You lost get over it !
cylon85912 6 months ago
@cylon85912 If you're a white American, then chances are that you're descended from Britain, or at least Europe.
Sorry to break the news mate.
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@Ninja1275 I'm part Mi'kmaq I believe he was referring to that, but I'm used to Americans acting like that.
Some make a show of saying that its all part of the past but the very fact they made the effort to remove Tecumseh & almost any mention Natives from this documentary shows their bigotry.
They can't love their country with out hating us so they hate & tell their stories of how we some how deserve their treatment.
They don't like their British roots much ether. #LOL
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
What if Britain dint retreat because of the bad weather but because Madison wanted to gain the hearts of Americans and plan this invasion from the beginning?
patrickpadilla92 6 months ago
@patrickpadilla92 British didn't retreat at all. Not from Bad weather or otherwise. The Public buildings had been burned, the job was done & the troops where needed to help in the attack on Baltimore. They left not retreated. Retreating implies they was a force to retreat from.
Madison was what some would call an ivory tower idealist with little grasp of practical operation of government. For example declaring war with an ill prepared military.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
God was pissed at the British ^_^
ghostliner45 6 months ago
@ghostliner45 the Storm did more damage to Washington then the storm did to British if God wanted to step in you'd think he would act before the Battle that routed the cities defenders not wait till the city was in flames & the population had fled & was with out shelter.
For the people of Washington the storm was a nasty finish to a really bad day. #LOL
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago 22
@Eddythebeast666 fuckin well said bro
dominoes127 6 months ago 6
The Lord has His reasons for everything. And i don't know all there is about the Lord, but i do know this. With the help of God we kicked the British the heck out! They are low life Socialist pieces of trash!!!!!!!!! AND THEY ARE WATCHING OUR MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THunterMeget 6 months ago
@THunterMeget Perhaps God meant to teach America that "Humility" is the virtue not "Pride". #LOL
Very disgraceful secular government you have down there.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@THunterMeget Amen to that brother !
cylon85912 6 months ago
@THunterMeget The French had a hell of a lot more to do with America gaining its independence than God did and Napoleon was responsible for the War of 1812 being fought in the first place. Since God wasn't a Frenchman and both the British and United States were proud Christian nation I hardly think you can claim any help from God. Religious zelotism wont get you far in a historical debate.
11nytram11 6 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 mabey god was sad at how the british are bloody savages
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem Maybe God didn't think we were being savage enough. LOL
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 america kicked your ass twice! how dose it feel loser!
TheBigfanofeminem 5 months ago
@TheBigfanofeminem Name those 2 times.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 well the storm still probly scared the shit out of the British
lolzgunner101 5 months ago
@lolzgunner101 They use a British soldiers first hand account but then embellish upon it. They embellish a huge amount to the point that actual historical details are down played in favor of "the hand of God struck down the British"
Tacky, misinformative & offensive.
Why not include the fact that the poorer class of Washington took the British occupation as an opportunity to loot the homes of those who fled? Or
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666
thats such a biased interpretation. This is obviously a biblical type storm of mercy from God against the opressors.
Sturmmann 5 months ago
@Sturmmann Actually the poorer population of Washington had started looting the homes of the rich doing far worse damage then the British had done as the British had limited themselves to the Public buildings.
If this was a biblical storm then it seems God believed the British had not done enough to punish the people of Washington who were in fact building the streets of Washington in to a huge Satanic symbol.
Goggle "Satanic streets Washington" see for your self.
Eddythebeast666 5 months ago
@Eddythebeast666
ah yes....british crusaders personally recruited by god to do his biding and punish the satanic worshipping americans...
Sturmmann 5 months ago
@Sturmmann That is extremely stupid. Americans was just as much of an oppressor as Britain was.
mdotty42 4 months ago
@nigee1970 Yes they do & a part of me wishes they were right.
It was tool, a means to an end nothing more.
It would be a noble cause but such things are always perverted. Its human nature.
The idea that If the Yanks won they only wanted Canada as leverage all they would ask for is an end to impressment is stupid.
Like Natives believing Americans would honor the treaties they signed & not ask anything more later.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Amanda Donohoe was hot as Lady Pembroke but most of that movie was gross. #LOL
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 We can't dismiss American accusations entirely. Impressment put a weapon in the hands of pro war Americans to use against those who wanted peaceful trade with Britain. In short it did play a role just not exactly as Americans are willing to admit.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 Just curious, but how many actual invasions of Canada were there? Im aware of all of the battles but haven't really figured them out in order, other than the beginning with William Hull and Detroit etc, and the last with the battles of Chippawa and Lundy's Lane.
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@Ninja1275 3 main waves of attacks with multiple prongs to each assault. If you want to really get confused try adding in all the attacks on the Native front like the Red stick Creek civil war where Jackson was busy most of the war.
We Really don't give Natives enough credit for keeping the Yanks busy.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Yes, the Napoleonic was a desperate war but keeping that war from expanding did play a diplomatic role.
The US had real leverage to shape British policy. Not just strong arm but trade with the US fattened the bank accounts of many British Ministers of Parliament.Things were chaotic in Parliament King George III had slipped back in to madness putting an unfriendly regent on the throne & the assassination of the British Prime Minister Spencer Perceval in 11 May 1812 policy was a mess.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Napoleon marched in to Russia in 1812 his army was devastated that pretty much ended any need of impressment.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 See there never was a deliberate policy to Impress Americans to begin with. Most were accidental. We Impressed British citizens but there was so much trade between US & Britain & so many sailors of that shared commerce it was not uncommon for sailors of one Nation to be found on Merchant ships of another. When you factor in Loyalists born in America but still British citizens it become impossible to have any impressment with out some Americans getting swept up.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Thanks for high praise. My ancestors go back to early colonial history so I've gotten insights few can boast of on these events.
As I explained in the PM. Both are true. We never repealed impresment at the US request but because the need had ended with Napoleons defeat. Before that news reached the US they had declared war & given the marching orders to invade Canada.
Impressment was never the real issue. It was a means to undercut the anti war Federalists in congress.
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Ive heard that as well, and im not too sure. I've heard that both Britain and France practiced Impressment, and the United States sent demands to both countries for this to cease, and both countries complied. But Britains response didn't reach America until after the war had been declared.
I suppose they may have agreed to cease due to the US's demands, but maybe rescinded this and took up the practice again with the advent of war?
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@Ninja1275 As I explained in a PM to nigee1970. Both are true. We never repealed impresment at the US request but because the need had ended with Napoleons defeat. Before that news reached the US they had declared war & given the marching orders to invade Canada.
Impressment was never the real issue. It was a means for Madison & the war hawks to undercut the anti war Federalists in congress.
Those states who wanted the war were never impressed from. The states that did suffer impressment antiwar
Eddythebeast666 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Haha, I try my best... :D
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@nigee1970 Sigh.. I try my best... :D
Ninja1275 6 months ago
Look you Canadians & Brits, this is true history like it or not. Don't forget that the British impressed American saIlors & INVADED the U.S. and Canada harbored & fought with British troops so everything you got you deserved & no burning Washington is not equal to burning York. The British military were the evil tyrants in this war like it or not, This documantary is true & correct like it or not.
Medmann48 6 months ago
@Medmann48 Impressment was never a true issue, it was wildly exaggerated by the American Government and it had been resolved diplomatically before the war had even began. Not only that the States that actually suffered from the policy were all completely against the war, so much so that in 1815 they drew up the Hartford Convention and actually threatened to secede. France had continually violated the US's shipping and trading rights (far more than Britain) but war was never declared on them.
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@Medmann48 Canada did not "harbour" British troops, it was a British Colony. The War was a result of the War Hawks in Congress and their desire to annex Canada and kick the British from North America, Impressment was the moral justification, just like slavery and the Civil War
There was only a very small amout of British Soldiers in Canada, no more than 3000, compared to the army the US mustered. The US had every advantage possible going into this war, Britains attention was focused on Europe.
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@Medmann48 I fail to see how the innocent people of Canada, who had escaped from American persecution during the Revolution, got "everything they deserved", they banded together and alongside the Natives and British regulars, defeated multiple American invasions.
Britains "invasions" of the US were in actual fact large raids, designed to give "Ultimate security to His Majesty’s Possessions in America".
Ninja1275 6 months ago
@Medmann48 And they would have continued, had Napoleon not returned from exile, sparking the Hundred Days Offensive.
As for the burning of Washington not being equal to York, utter crap. York was a major city, but Washington was your capital, you would have had to burn down the Houses of Parliament in London to get back at us for that one. Besides, after the Burning of Washington there was no question in you governments mind that the war had to end, which it eventually did.
Ninja1275 6 months ago
The president condemns the British for burning down their white house, but he was fine with the Americans doing the same to the Canadians.
This documentary also feels rather biased towards the Americans.
rkb53 7 months ago
Ninja1275 and Eddythebeast666 why are you hating on the Usa so much? it's not perfect we've made some mistakes we know this and yes china is becoming More and more rich and powerful most Americans know this If you watch the news over here in the Usa Then you will see we know we're in trouble We know we have a Huge dept problem and are economy Isn't doing so well and we have an unemployment problem we're trying to fix these things but it's not easy D:
leeon00 7 months ago
@leeon00 Im not hating on the USA, ive got family over in the states and ive been there several times, its a great place.
I simply cant stand this type of revisionist history which portrays one nation as the good guys and everyone else as the bad guys, especially when the United States during the war of 1812 has absolutely nothing to brag about.
How would you like it if a British documentary basically showed the Brits as squeaky clean do-gooders, and the Americans as evil tyrants?
Ninja1275 7 months ago
@Ninja1275 To be honest i wouldn't really care but i don't like this documentary either so we shouldn't make such a big deal about it we should just try to find another one to watch or read a book about it or something instead of complaining about this one D: There are good documentary's and bad ones Lets just say this one is a bad one and move on :/
leeon00 7 months ago
@leeon00 I've no problem with the US I have served in the Canadian military & consider them a valuable ally.
That does not mean I'm going to let pass an insult of the magnitude of this show.
Why produce such a hate filled show. It revives 200 year old anti British propaganda that was dubious back then & presents it as established historical fact.
Why insult us like this? To flatter American egos?
At least the comment section gives me a platform to express my outrage at the abuse.
Eddythebeast666 7 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 I don't know why they would do it either go ask them there's no point in posting 50 comments just to complain about a bad documentary That's all im saying o3o
leeon00 7 months ago
@nigee1970 Rest assured, gentleman, nothing drastic is in the offing, as it has not been since 1517!
hotboyclarence 7 months ago
@nigee1970 it would a cold day in hell when the asiatics outshine the anglo-saxons. in the 1980s, the scarecrow was japan. now it is china. tomorrow will be india, and next week, nigeria. those are good stuff for the news media to sell their ware. i hope u do not believe that countries that WE BUILT via our cash investments and technology tranfere to make our goods, are about to seize the world mastery from us masters of technology, money and diplomacy? Smokes and mirrors, good Sir, smokes and.
hotboyclarence 7 months ago
@hotboyclarence You mean Asiatics that had advanced metal working while we barely mastered copper? The inventors of Gun powder and those same rockets that you have mentioned in your National anthem?
Those Asiatics?
Seriously?
The only thing holding them back now is the lack of a democratic system. They have barely started with capitalism & look at them.
All our power was based upon exploiting weaker cultures, as those cultures developed our power waned.
You underestimate them.
Eddythebeast666 7 months ago
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hotboyclarence 7 months ago
@Eddythebeast666 I am sorry, I forgot that Archimedes, Democrites, Socrates, Aristotle, Avicenna, Algorismus, Newton, Faraday, Einstein, the Wright Brothers, Edison, Bell, Marconi...... were all Asiatics! My apologies to you and all other Asiatics for having forgotten their great contribution to the human technology and civilization.
hotboyclarence 7 months ago
@hotboyclarence Domestication of wheat and peas, Domestication of sheep, Domestication of cats, Domestication of cattle, Invention of pottery, Weaving of the first cloth, Domestication of chickens, Discovery of alcoholic drinks, Domestication of rice, Invention of the Wheel,Invention of silk cloth, Invention of written language, Invention of glass, Invention of soap, Invention of ink, Invention of the parasol, Invention of irrigation canals, Invention of cartography (map-making)
Eddythebeast666 7 months ago
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hotboyclarence 7 months ago
@hotboyclarence Is India a Western nation now?
Listen, your attitude & bigotry is pretty offensive. I don't know what your problem is but if deliberate ignorance is your response to the precived threat of a shift in power as China becomes the top economy fine with me.
Your solution of sticking your head in a dark place says all anyone needs to know about you.
Eddythebeast666 7 months ago
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hotboyclarence 7 months ago
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hotboyclarence 7 months ago
@hotboyclarence "China is the poorest country on earth" No its not you imbecile, its economy is rising at an alarmingly fast rate and will very soon surpass your own countries wealth. Whether it steps up and assumes de facto world control is another thing, but if it does then it cant be much worse than the US causing wars over greed and money.
Just look at how many items bear a tag saying "Made in China". Everyday we are contributing to their eventual rise.
Ninja1275 7 months ago
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hotboyclarence 7 months ago