Although america appears to be becomming the next terror regime in the world, it is also apparent that many foreigners, who would previously have been hidden from our eyes (westerners), arenow able to show us that they are NOT barbarians, and are NOT stupid.
Now we feel lied to, and cheated, and guilty of thinking less of people just because oru masters told us you were stupid !!
So, the people will become more friendly towards each other, and less friendly toward the bankers !! Obvious !
A fundamental - and tragic - truth persists: Most of us are oblivious to the brutal reality of American bombing campaigns, the dismembered children, the innocent families literally blown apart, and so on.
Please note: Our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed several hundred thousand civilians. That's at least one "9/11" every week for the past 5 or 6 years.
The result: Much, much more terrorism...and an unbelievable amount of dead children.
The United States is not a democracy, it is a Republic.
I understand Zinn's point of view, but don't mistake thinking America is a democracy. It is a constitutional Republic! The founding fathers knew democratic nations do not last, so something greater had to be created.
it is neither, it is a plutocratic dictatorship, since there is no real separation of power, and i sould add totalitarian, for obvious reasons. that's what it is in practice, in theory? well, in theory it's a democratic [representative] federative republic
well, it's a good idea to separete the terms, the way at least i see it, fascism, naziism, aswell as soviet russian and communist china, are subgroups of totalitarianism. not to specifically say that communism or socialism itself [of which communism is a subgroup] would be totalitarian. so in the basic form totalitarianism is when the government regulates private life and other spheres other than public affairs. like telling you what to eat and consume [like illegal drugs], wear, think, do, etc
i beg to differ, authoritarianism is when a political party or force seeks to control and monopolize the political power and government structure. whereas a totalitarian government seeks to expand its control over the citizens' private lives, most often imposing a certain ideology.besides, what you just said was bascially what i first said; perhaps i wasnt clear enough.
Its nice to hear Ms Roy talk about her own country and how it works. I just realised we never get to hear about that kind of information from other countries.
If we worship professors it is because they teach us about truth and clarity, they offer hope for progress of our health, our poverty, and our ignorance. Sincere thanks to those that teach peace and truth. When your life is questioned at the pearly gates it won't be about being buddhist, hindi, Jew or Muslim, rather it will be about truth and peace for all men and what did you do about that, IMHO.
Zinn is a 'radical-liberal' who, in the end, backs the "lesser evil" of voting for the Democrats. We need a real leftist/workingclass movement in this country that will not be built by polite audiences who worship retired professors...icl-fi DOT org
If we worship professors it is because they teach us about truth and clarity, they offer hope for progress of our health, our poverty, and our ignorance. Sincere thanks to those that teach peace and truth. When your life is questioned at the pearly gates it won't be about being buddhist, hindi, Jew or Muslim, rather it will be about truth and peace for all men and what did you do about that, IMHO.
when is the last time people in the u.s.a went on a major public demonstration or a general strike?is it for gay rights or vietnam war
raazs35 2 years ago 4
Although america appears to be becomming the next terror regime in the world, it is also apparent that many foreigners, who would previously have been hidden from our eyes (westerners), arenow able to show us that they are NOT barbarians, and are NOT stupid.
Now we feel lied to, and cheated, and guilty of thinking less of people just because oru masters told us you were stupid !!
So, the people will become more friendly towards each other, and less friendly toward the bankers !! Obvious !
mikeybrumbrum 3 years ago
let's hope so yes indeed....
deonderzoeker 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this discussion.
A fundamental - and tragic - truth persists: Most of us are oblivious to the brutal reality of American bombing campaigns, the dismembered children, the innocent families literally blown apart, and so on.
Please note: Our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have killed several hundred thousand civilians. That's at least one "9/11" every week for the past 5 or 6 years.
The result: Much, much more terrorism...and an unbelievable amount of dead children.
flagsandstaff 3 years ago
The United States is not a democracy, it is a Republic.
I understand Zinn's point of view, but don't mistake thinking America is a democracy. It is a constitutional Republic! The founding fathers knew democratic nations do not last, so something greater had to be created.
Fidokrab 3 years ago
It's a democratic republic.
DANxCHORIN 3 years ago
it is neither, it is a plutocratic dictatorship, since there is no real separation of power, and i sould add totalitarian, for obvious reasons. that's what it is in practice, in theory? well, in theory it's a democratic [representative] federative republic
jgcooper 2 years ago
I would agree that the United States is undemocratic, but I really wouldn't go as far as saying it's 'totalitarian'. How is it totalitarian?
DANxCHORIN 2 years ago
well, it's a good idea to separete the terms, the way at least i see it, fascism, naziism, aswell as soviet russian and communist china, are subgroups of totalitarianism. not to specifically say that communism or socialism itself [of which communism is a subgroup] would be totalitarian. so in the basic form totalitarianism is when the government regulates private life and other spheres other than public affairs. like telling you what to eat and consume [like illegal drugs], wear, think, do, etc
jgcooper 2 years ago
I would generally just call that 'authoritarianism'. Totalitarianism is when the state regulates almost EVERY aspect of public and private life.
It can be summed up by a quote by Mussolini: 'Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state'.
So I would say the U.S. government is authoritarian, as opposed to totalitarian.
DANxCHORIN 2 years ago
i beg to differ, authoritarianism is when a political party or force seeks to control and monopolize the political power and government structure. whereas a totalitarian government seeks to expand its control over the citizens' private lives, most often imposing a certain ideology.besides, what you just said was bascially what i first said; perhaps i wasnt clear enough.
jgcooper 2 years ago
Yeah I thought you meant it's when the government regulates only SOME aspects of non-public life.
DANxCHORIN 2 years ago
ok, glad we agree. we've acheived the unlikely objective of a two person concensus. peace!
jgcooper 2 years ago
howard zinn la lleva
snoa18 4 years ago
"Too much 'ah-uh-ummm'"
"Howard Zinn rocks!"
..profoundly moving.
"Arundjati is simply beautiful!"
and this is so relevant to the lecture that is given.
" Zinn is a 'radical-liberal' "
Wow, the commentary on this website reflects such penetrating intellectual powers.
By the way, before you pretend to know what your talking about, her name is Arundhati Roy.
edeneye808 5 years ago
Too much "ah-uh-ummm" from him, really. Sounds like a few teachers I've had.
dracofirex 5 years ago
zinntastic!!
bratk21 5 years ago
Its nice to hear Ms Roy talk about her own country and how it works. I just realised we never get to hear about that kind of information from other countries.
VividHazE 5 years ago
If we worship professors it is because they teach us about truth and clarity, they offer hope for progress of our health, our poverty, and our ignorance. Sincere thanks to those that teach peace and truth. When your life is questioned at the pearly gates it won't be about being buddhist, hindi, Jew or Muslim, rather it will be about truth and peace for all men and what did you do about that, IMHO.
11001100l 5 years ago
Zinn is a 'radical-liberal' who, in the end, backs the "lesser evil" of voting for the Democrats. We need a real leftist/workingclass movement in this country that will not be built by polite audiences who worship retired professors...icl-fi DOT org
XenagogueVicene 5 years ago
When this is no other viable option, yeah you do have to go for the lesser evil.
KentAllard 5 years ago
If we worship professors it is because they teach us about truth and clarity, they offer hope for progress of our health, our poverty, and our ignorance. Sincere thanks to those that teach peace and truth. When your life is questioned at the pearly gates it won't be about being buddhist, hindi, Jew or Muslim, rather it will be about truth and peace for all men and what did you do about that, IMHO.
11001100l 5 years ago
Arundjati is simply beautiful!
raydar878 5 years ago
any chance you're missing the point? Is that what she hopes most that you will say?
Nounismisation 4 years ago
Howard Zinn rocks!
persiancowboy 5 years ago