where did you get the green and yellow pre picture at the beginnig that has h is autograph and the quote? i really love that and want to get it!!! thanks
God Bless this man whom ran heart out in every race he ran. Pre has inspired me to become the best at running and I will stop at nothing to become the best. People look among yourselves for your fighting over nothing when this is tribute to a man who gave nothing but his best. Im a freshman in highschool but eveer since I heard of him I have become inspired to do nothing but run and not stop at all until my heart beats its final. Anyone who agrees with me thumbs up. R.I.P PRE WE ALL MISS YOU!
@ABOUT258dirtybeaners Well, maybe that's just because he just didn't have the ability to outkick runners in the homestretch. There are plenty of people who do the same thing- Galen Rupp usually hammers the last kilometer and people steal his glory- last year he led Bernard Lagat to the indoor 5K American Record and Solinsky to the 10K American record (going under both marks himself). This year he frontrun his way back to the indoor 5K record, but saw Mo Farah outkick him for a British record.
@ShunyamNiketana The olympic races are never about fast times. The recent Olympic race (in Beijing) was 20 seconds slower than Kenenisa Bekele's 12:37 world record and 11 slower than Kipchoge's. Either way, Viren had run 13:19 in the Finnish Trials and 13:16.4 in bad conditions after the Olympics. In terms of times, this is a moot point. Pre was not going to run away from Viren on this day.
So Leto play Pre in the movie "Prefontaine" and he is the singer of 30 seconds to mars, so maybe that is why he picked the song. I mean come on lay off the guy.
The singer in this band played Prefontaine in " Prefontaine ", and the message of the song is " run away ".
This is the most powerful music anyone could have chosen. Don't listen to these people who are clueless about the distinciton of this powerful presentation you made. Thanks for this inspirational video!
@poot25 hey I was wondering the picture of prefontaine at the very beginning of the video where did you get it? Like the picture that's at the very beginning of the vid because I would really appreciate it if you could tell me where I could it. Or like send it to me from the video. Any way would be greatly appreciated.
I understand if you're ticked off about blood doping talk. I'm not one of those sore sports who thinks that. I've had to listen to that every time I celebrate a Lance Armstrong victory. Viren left people behind at the end of a race, the same way my man Bekele does, and we know both of those champions just work their asses off. If anyone accused Kenenisa Bekele of blood doping, I'd be ticked off too. When Pre left college competition in 73, he joked about how he couldn't beat Viren, among others.
The video said in the information, Prefontaine was an amazing runner.
This is strange how you find this offensive as a Viren fan. Are People who don't like Prefontaine that super sensitive? do they need constant boosts to their self asteem, so they can find their way back to their Gerry Lindgren videos, and their other runner's videos?.......I'm also a fan of Billy Mills. Oh, wait, do you have a problem with him to? O.K. I'll ask, what don't you like about Billy Mills? He's amazing. Still.
No, I understand how important Pre was to you, and don't find it offensive. I don't hate Pre, but when the classic arguments "Pre had more guts than Viren," "Pre could have beat Viren in Montreal," or better yet, "Viren blood doped, the only way he could've defeated Pre," then I must give you Pre fans a healthy dose of reality.
And I find nothing wrong with Billy Mills, the only American to ever win a 10k championship. A 10k runner myself, Mills tells me that Americans do have a chance still.
The races in Montreal can not be successfully debated at all. Yifter wasn't there, and Prefontaine wasn't there. Yifter fans have a right to their opinion, and Prefontaine fans have a right to their opinion as well, and what better place than a Pre video. Who cares if we're wrong or not. I could debate how Bekele would kick Viren's behind, the way Yifter did, and I can debate that Radcliffe will win Olympic Gold in London (she will). Kara Goucher will win New York this year in an amazing finish.
But among all the rest, Foster, Dixon, Hildebrant, Quax, Lopes, Viren won, and he did it so brilliantly. It's not fair to compare Bekele and Viren, just as it isn't fair to compare, say, Jesse Owens and Carl Lewis. Times and training standards have improved over the years.
Alright, but how about comparing Paula Radcliffe with Kara Goucher. Get ready this Fall, for the New York City marathon. If the two of these women match up, it will be legendary, Even though Goucher has yet to win one, she is on the verge.
Shorter specialized in the marathon like you said. Neither Prefontaine, nor Viren would attempt that distance. So, am I supposed to tell you easily that Shorter is by "far" the better runner than Viren. That would be too easy to do, and not even necessary, because this video is a celebration of greatness, not who is the best, because these people can't even race eachother today anyway. If you can actually understand that people celebrate others who inspire them, maybe you can watch Viren instead
What do you mean Viren didn't attempt that distance? He was doing fine, until the 37km, when the 30km he did earlier that week got the best of him.
I am well aware of the purpose of this video, Springsteel. But when comments that celebrate the greatness of one besmirch the name of another, then I can't really "shut up and go away."
As a matter of fact, yes, I do lots of running every week, specifically to prepare myself for the cross country season. I've hit or am close to hitting my peak mileage for the summer before turning the focus on speed.
Of course, once I'm hooked, I've got to know everything about the subject, explaining my encyclopedic knowledge.
On the contrary, I've run 50 miles this week, including a 10K time trial yesterday. I'll take today off to rest up before running 12 miles tomorrow (Sundays are the longer runs for me).
Any questions? Didn't think so. Don't make generalizations about people you don't know anything about, understood?
Well, I don't give a damn, okay? You can make as many false assumptions about me as you wish, but I wouldn't spend one minute talking about running if I didn't do any of it myself. Good day to you, *sir.*
Well thank God for that, because if you're an asshole on a Pre video, you're probably a bigger asshole around Viren pages... but maybe you don't have *guts* to hang around them, because you're afraid to admit the true brilliance of the great Lasse Viren!
Give it up Springsteel. No matter how hard you try, you cannot come up with a plausible (and I emphasize the word plausible because everything you've come up so far has been bullshit) argument that would smear Viren... Yifter, Shorter, and even Pre were great runners, and nobody malignantly questions the circumstances of their achievements... now do the same for Viren, and we can end this.
I've always said Viren was great. My point is that all these runners were, and still are great if they run or not . Alot of people run because of Viren, and alot of people run because of Prefontaine.
Alot more people run because of Kara Goucher (She has incredible legs), even though she has yet to beat Paula Radcliffe (Who also has amazing legs). These women are taking running to new heights, which is what our favorite runners have always done.
That's better, Mr. "Viren looked like a total and complete amatuer" or Mr. "Yifter was way, way better than Viren." You seem to be switching from "Viren was great" and "Viren was a chicken." Make up your mind!
Yiftertheshifter of course kicked Viren's wazoo soooo bad , that Yifter made Viren look like a total and complete amatuer. This was one of the easiest victories I've ever seen anyone run when Yifter just completeley dusted Viren on the bell lap , and made Viren's slow kick so ever visable for all the world to see during the Olympics......when it counted most. Yifter obviously far, far better than Viren, and Viren of course , not even in the same league, and not tough enough to race Shorter.
Viren not tough enough to race Shorter... VIREN NOT TOUGH ENOUGH TO RACE SHORTER? CAN YOU BE ANY MORE OF A HOPELESSLY CONFUSED ASSHOLE?!!! CAN YOU?!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?!!!
I meant that Viren would not be tough enough, nor would Prefontaine, to race Frank Shorter in the Marathon, which Shorter won in the Munich Olympics.I sure hope you don't have some problem with the character of Frank Shorter also, the way you feel Prefontaine was so unacomplished in your opinion. I'm wondering how you'll explain that Viren somehow was a better marathoner than Shorter. If I go to a Frank Shorter video, are you going to comment on what a loser Shorter is, like you've tried here?
Springsteel333, Shorter had to focus on one race in Montreal, the marathon, which is his specialty. Viren ran four races, running a fast 30km in all, only 18 hours before a race he had never run in before (in fact he only said he'd consider it if he won both the 5k/10k, so it was more a bonus). So, what I am saying is that Shorter was a better marathoner, but Viren was not, as you said, "not tough enough to defeat Shorter," which obviously does not add up.
1. The Munich 10K: Viren 1st, Shorter 5th... sounds like the Munich 5K: Viren 1st Pre 4th.
2. Can you name any athlete in the history of athletics run two heats of the 10K, two heats of the 5K, and then, only 18 hours afterwards, run a marathon? Anyone tough enough to do all that at the same time? Have you ever run a marathon? Have you ever run a 5K race, then, immediately afterwards, a marathon?
If you can answer any of those questions favorably, I'll give you props, but if you are truly saying that Shorter, who only had to focus on the one and only race he had to run, a distance he specialized in, versus Viren, who had to run the heats/ finals of the 5K (winning all), and then the marathon, then you have to be one of the biggest and sorriest asshole I've ever met.
The reason it's so easy to point out the conveniency of Viren's ......."hamstring injury", is because it's hilarious, and typical. I wouldn't want to race Pre either.
You wouldn't want to race Viren either, you little coward. Viren would race Pre and beat him any day... that he proved at the highest level (Munich Olympics) and a lower level (a match in Helsinki). Do you need me to repeat that again for you, asshole? VIREN RACED PRE TWICE: ONCE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, ONE AT A SIMPLE MEET... HE WON TWICE!!! YES, BOTH TIMES!!! WHAT MORE DOES HE HAVE TO PROVE TO SHOW YOU THAT HE WAS BETTER?!!!
If you love the "Viren" so much, why don't you go to a video where they feature Viren? Just a thought, because we celebrate Prefontaine here, because as much as you seem to be disapointed by this, Prefontaine is, was, and always will be a legend. (Soooo sorry if that hurts the feelings of Viren fans).
No, I'm cool with that. But the more you pander into what really happened from Munich 5K to the Montreal 5K, the more I have to correct you, and I never tire of doing it, because it takes one gold medal to become a hero, and it takes two to become a legend; Viren has four, so I can easily rub those four golds in your arrogant faces should I require it.
Are you still hanging around the Prefontaine videos? What's the matter? Viren videos aren't interesting enough, because certain runners had "way more guts" than him. Gold medals are great, especially if you have a fake job, and don't have to work for a living. Maybe that's why he was mysteriously injured all the time, and yeah, I never tire of talking about Pre, or Viren's mysterious injuries that put him in hospitals just before olympic time, and too fragile to race in Oregon. Pre-race jitters.
Lol. You know, I read not too long ago the report on the 3200m at the state high school meet. It was something along the lines of the eventual winner "trying to make the race as boring as possible" by frontrunning the race...
So, if Pre, like the winner of the state 3200m race, got his way, the Munich 5K would have been a very boring race indeed... Interesting isn't the word here...
Viren not interesting enough? Viren ran some of the greatest races in Athletics history, particularly the Munich 10K and the fabulous Montreal 5K, the latter named one of the most epic races of the 1970s and the former the last time a world record was set at a long distance event in the Olympics, and an expression as to the "guts" that Viren has... many may have more guts than Viren, but Pre certainly is not one of them.
You know, I would have thought your argument to be more plausible if Viren really dropped out of an Olympic race, where guts really matter, other than a race held by a stuck-up, vain, sore loser like Pre that's over 5000 miles away. But then again, it isn't lack of courage to race with an injured hamstring, it's the right and smart thing to do... that's where Viren bettered Pre... if having guts means racing stupidly, then I'd agree that Pre is a very gutsy runner and not Viren.
yeah.........sure, right, injured hamstring. Boy , like that's never been used before. Quite an impressive excuse. Oh, sorry guys, I can't join you because I'm not part of the team, and besides, I don't want to have to face that tough runner from Oregon.....once again, I don't blame your viren for chickening out. He was not the first to be afraid to race Prefontaine in the states. Don't worry, there's no shame in Viren being afraid to run against certain runners. Facts are facts. Enjoyable ones.
Viren, in '72, was the last man to hold the Olympic and World records over 5/10K as well as 2 miles. Bekele has achieved all but not the 2 mile WR. Gebre in '97 had the WRs, but not the olympic 5K record.
Viren ran more in the 1976 olympics than any other runner in history (10K heat + final, 5K heat + final, marathon = 72.2 km). Were the marathon not so close to his amazing 5K victory, he might have picked up another medal.
Viren having a fake job? Hehehehehe... Viren outran and tackled a thief in a Finnish orchard... Pre gave beer to people, then got drunk himself... maybe he committed suicide before he faced Viren again in Montreal... Next to your BS speculations, I'd say that's plausible
Face it: you've got nothing on the great Lasse Viren. He has 4. Your boy has 0.
Once again, you're are enjoying the Prefontaine video, while at the same time, I'm not on the viren video. Bet you can't guess why. It's because we're both celebrating Prefontaine. Prefontaine, and Viren never raced cross country, and viren was too chickenshit to race Prefontaine in the States. Why was he chicken? You have come up with some impressive excuses, and you are quite humorous to try and save your boy some face, but facts are facts. Aww, can't find a Viren video?
Oh don't worry, I can find Viren videos... I watch them in between kicking your ass at this funny argument. I'd be annoyed for your being such a stubborn jackass, too afraid to admit the unfavorable truth, even after handing you solid proof (i.e. Viren's injury, which was real, and something all athletes face at least once, myself included), but it's quite easy defending a four-time gold medalist versus a "tough guy" who achieved next to nothing in global athletics.
I agree the argument is funny, because you're arguing with yourself. I have pointed out to you several times, that my opinion is that Prefontaine was the fourth best 5000 meter runner in the world.
So, what point are you still in the process of trying to make? I even wonder if you know? Are you trying to say that Prefontaine wasn't fourth best in the world in 1972?....Your absolute failure in this conversation is that you're not going to turn Prefontaine fans into Viren fans. Sorry, Impossible
Good: you realized that he was fourth that race... well, he was fourth in '72, but probably less in '75.
So, by this argument, we have proven your twofold myth wrong:
That if Viren went to Oregon, Pre would have won. Fact: Viren has beaten Pre in both races for which they have met.
That since Viren did not go, he was a chicken. Fact: Viren feared no runner, especially one he had beaten twice. He wasn't afraid of runners who had beaten him (Foster).
((Your absolute failure in this conversation is that you're not going to turn Prefontaine fans into Viren fans))
More bullshit from a pathetically hopeless, stubborn jackass. My first comment here had nothing to do with Viren, Mr. "Pre's the only runner with guts." How much more BS can a hopelessly lost monkey like you utter? It's making me dizzy.
Are you serious?! I can name several runners who had WAY more guts than Pre... best I can think of is Zatopek, with training sessions that would make Pre vomit; Viren produced a way more sensational final kilometer in Montreal than Pre could ever have imagined... El G is another one, especially in the Athens 1500m... and many others who have either won or lost before and after Pre.
sure Yifter the shifter....you can think of sooooo many runners who had more guts than Pre?, that explains why you spend your time on a Pre-Pre-sentation of the toughest runner, who your man viren was afraid of
Lol, you poor silly fool; maybe YOU are too afraid to admit that your boy was beaten in Munich and was sure as hell gonna get beat in Montreal. I've given up trying to explain that to you... it's like saying that Bekele, who had an injury, was "afraid" of Zersenay, so he forewent the World Cross Country championships. We know who is afraid here, and that most certainly was not Viren.
Viren.....do you want to join your team and race in Oregon, or do you want to stay home?...............I agree, better not go to Oregon to race that tough guy.
"Viren, that American dude just challenged you to another race."
"Let him come to Montreal and I'll give him another Munich-style world class ass-whupping. Hopefully he doesn't get drunk and crash his car along the way."
El G is nothing compared to Bekele. ....but since we're on a Prefontaine presentation, let's admit that the story behind Prefontaine, is that of unrealized potential. We can't argue about how good he was, when we'll never know how good, that's the point of the story, and yet, there are still those here who think they know how much better others were....which proves they don't know anything.
EL G NOTHING COMPARED TO BEKELE?!!! You're not serious, are you? ARE YOU?!!! And incidentally, Bekele has perhaps the closest Olympic record to Viren, does he not? Their races I've noted to be quite similar... you've indirectly complimented a man you bash constantly just because he and his accomplishments tower over your short little body and that of your poor boy who, if anything, taught us the consequences of drinking and driving.
Ah yes, this unrealized potential... heck, using this funny excuse "unrealized potential" we've seen people say that Pre could've ran 12:36 for 5000 meters. We've seen people say he could have won in Montreal, using this "unrealized potential," more a woulda, coulda, shoulda argument. We'll never know fully how much Pre could do, but his early years, his 13:21.8 PR, are the strongest indication, not baseless assumption and heresay.
If you'll notice, I wasn't stating that fact as the basis for an argument. That fact is just what it is, a fact. The world is made up of facts, and as you can see , the fact remains that we're all at the Pre Pre-sentation, and not the one about Viren. The facts are you are on the Prefontaine obsession, just like everyone here, and it is freightening to think what he might have done in Montreal, and beyond. You're right.
Wow, what a load of BS. I am no more obsessed with Prefontaine as you are... the facts are that, with this "unrealized potential" excuse, Pre would have claimed every gold medal in track and field, ran 5000 meters in less than a second, and that he was so terrifying that the only man in history to retain a 5000 meter title, who was in 1974/75 suffering with injuries, was SO AFRAID of an athlete he defeated by over ten meters at the highest stage of competition... LOL
Yeah, your LOL reaction is the same one I had when Viren whimpered out on his team when they came west (don't blame him). .......If You will notice, you said another runner was "nothing" compared to El G. So I of course used your silly comment against your argument. See the pattern here? you to say something insulting to the Prefontaine legend, and I of course, use that against your argument by doing the same to your hero , who is on a different video if he even has one. Do he? well, do he?
"If You will notice, you said another runner was "nothing" compared to El G...." Now where the hell did I say that? Putting words in my mouth? Wouldn't be the first time you make something up, would it? I wonder if Pre whimped out of facing Viren in the 10,000 meters in Munich... it would have been fun to see that... maybe more so than the Munich 5K... maybe, Pre was not gutsy enough to try two races, so he just stuck with what he thought was his best event, and lost... to three people.
You still haven't told me if you were serious about El G being "nothing" compared to Bekele... take that back, or do you stand by a sentiment that will attract ridicule by nearly anyone familiar with these two?
1. Err... you don't become a God by not using steroids...
2. The athletes of his time were given similar advantages/disadvantages, and, indeed, many accomplished more than him.
3. Well, some indeed are caught with performance enhancers, but that you say most use them do this is a baseless accusation... sort of like saying all baseball players use steroids.
4. The clincher: It's usually the big winners (i.e. Lasse Viren) who get fingers pointed at them.
To say that Prefontaine wasn't a "big winner" at the sport of track and field, and cross country running means you simply haven't done your homework, and are only basing everything on competitions that happen every four years. Anyone who studies running knows Prefontaine won "big" in cross country, and track and field, and I'm not even sure what Viren's cross country record was? Of course we all know cross country is the true measure of a runner.
1. In Pre's chance to show us that he was everything you say he was, he was beaten by three runners.
2. Pre won zero world cross country championships (which he had three opportunities to do: '73-'75).
To summarize: Pre won zero olympic/multi-national titles over track/cross country, and set zero world records. All his credentials were on the American level, but not on the world level. In other words, in America, Pre was a big winner. Worldwide, as per Munich, Pre was the big loser.
to get 4th place in the olympics at only 21 yrs old is outstanding. he had 8+ years left in his career. it's too bad he had to die so young... and right before montreal, too.
to get first first in the olympics 10,000m at 2003 world championships aged 21 is smthing and aged 22 win the olympics 10,000m and 2nd in the 5k is somthing from bekele. 4th isnt that good. And what about eluid kipchoge aged 18!!!! winning the 5k at WC 2003. Now thats somthing. Meh if u ask me if he was just a big mouthed typical american who promised a lot more than he could actually do. Viren was the real hero
chill. anyone who even goes to the olympics or championships is very good. and don't bring america or other countries into this. it has nothing to do with what i said.
Wow, your a fucktard and no nothing, Pre isn't famous for the olympics! He is famous for standing up to the AAU and never backing down. He put his guts into every race and in my oppion was so much more fun to watch then Bekele or Kipchoge. He had something in his eyes that no one else did!
yes dude shut up... bekele and kipchoge are monsters... prodiges from nature, pre was great, tu achieve a 4th place in the olympics plus all the american records he set up, is admirable, apart from that his personality and heart is what counts... obviously there are better runners than him outhere, but pre always will be pre
ya but viren said that it was because of pre that he won, pre made the race and made every1 who beat him push harder than they ever could. and pre wasnt some big mouthed typical american, he was some1 who worked themselves to the bone to live out wat others said he couldnt do and to do it in flying colors. he didnt promise anythin he couldnt do, all he wanted to do was not race to be the fastest, but race to be the one who was most willing to put themselves through hell to come out on top.
He promised a gold medal and a sub 4minutes last mile but didnt come through on either of them. And this bullshit about him saying people always douted him if just rubbish and viren prob would of won the race whatever way it was run. With the powerfull kick viren had he could of won it in a slow race or fast.
people. the bottom line is that viren -did- beat pre that day. but it isn't always the best runner who wins in a race. how many great athletes have we seen crumble at the olympics, and when they were the favorites? tables turn all the time.
Read some of the comments, and love Pre, but as a former competitive runner myself - I know that Viren was better. I'm also sure that Pre would have agreed. It really isn't any of our place to talk about heart - they both had plenty.
Virenkickedpresass...SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! UR SO INSECURE THAT ALL YOU DO IS JUST GO AROUND INSULTING PRE...I DONT SEE ANY VIDEOS ABOUT FUCKIN VIREN THE FAG!!! SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
hey, if you look at the actual video of the race. one commentator says that prefontaine will be the 5000m champion, but that he will have to wait until montreal to be so.
Dude, you completely missed the point. Kyle Boller won a SuperBowl with Baltimore; does that mean he's a better QB than Dan Marino, who never won one? Larry Bird was not an athletic wonder, he just had more determination and work ethic than others that had more talent. You have to have an open mind when comparing someone who was killed as he was just coming into his prime with some others than had much longer, uninterupted careers. I'm not saying he's the best, just better than most.
He was never known as a "natural" talent like a lot of others in his time. He worked his ass off for what he accomplished. He owned every American record from 2000 to 10000 meters. He was still a young runner when he lost in the olympics but even so, he was already the favorite to win in Montreal before he died.
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He was NEVER known AS A NATURAL?!?! Are you smoking CRACK? Not known as a natural because PRE said he WASN'T!?!? Pre was the ONLY one who said, "it is all hard work, no talent". So, let's see. He goes undefeated throughout his high school career. Virtually undefeated in College. Wins the Olympic trials. 4th in the games. Gosh, I see your point. Only a fool would think he was not a "natural", especially with a pathetic career such as he had. Wise up, man.
elvis , kurt cobaine, johnny cash pete rose all losers according to this guy ^. bill clinton. jose canseco, sean sherk, all losers. according to this guy. what have you done lately?
all i was saying legality issue or not was that if prefont was to come into her life if he was still alive it would be the best thing ever and how can you argue. and btw none of those people put anyones life in danger besides the ordinary traffic violation. fuck obama
well let me ask you something. how could they have ever put anyones life in danger if they never hurt or killed anyone? "could of" is something you should stay away from. could of would of should of, all mean nothing. should of would of and could of are all things that never happened therefor can't be applied. your response to this will fall into one of those terms because it simply has to therefor means nothing.
Learn to spell and write before you pretend to show your intelligence, but in reality show your ignorance. Then, "could of, should of, would of" in regards to pre winning in 76, all mean nothing.
reguards? sorry. i didn't know what depths you would stoop to to gain the upper hand in a conversation.
sorry to break it to you, but spelling errors play a very small role when considering someones intelligence. spelling is a skill. intelligence is something your born with or your not. a person can be book smart and dumb at the same time.
on a plus note, your right, "could of, would of, and should of" mean absolutely nothing. its like talking about something that doesn't exist.
listen i didn't start with you. all i was saying was that even though those athletes i pointed out have done some bad things in their lives, 99.9999 percent of the people on this planet have yet to come close to what they have accomplished. you obviously don't care what is wrong or right at this point in time to be pointing out gramatical errors and calling me dumb because of it.HOW DOES NOT BEING ABLE TO SPELL "CERTAIN" WORDS MAKE SOMEONE DUMB? EXPLANATION PLEASE. or not, not would be better.
you would make a bad lawyer. could of , would of, and should of doesn't hold any weight in a court room because you can't blame someone for something they didn't do. driving drunk is not a valid enough reason to call someone a piece of shit. many people do it on a regular basis. if you want to blame someone, point your finger at the government for allowing people to DRIVE to the store to purchase the very thing that they arrest people for doing while they drive.
One more time, DUMBASS, They PUT SOMEONES LIFE IN DANGER, DUMBASS. Were they LUCKY they didn't KILL SOMEONE? Sure, DUMBASS, but they STILL put someones life in danger, didn't they, DUMBASS?
well if you loved life you wouldn't feel the need to be unreasonable and cruel. here's a fact, happy people don't insult others to make themselves feel better.(they are happy without it.)
its the truth. i with you the best with your life because thats all i can do. i hope you see the error of your ways because until you change your attitude your life will never get better.
if you hate pre so much then why do you watch every single video that gas to do with him? I think its time for you to give it a rest from the right hand and get a life
ok... simple typo... one i posted that i knew you were gonna try to tell me i was stupid for saying that, you cant judge someone's intelligence from a typo... i meant "has" not "gas" and from looking at all your comments, most would guess you hated pre
God I wish he didn't die.
thISxTHplacE 1 month ago
where did you get the green and yellow pre picture at the beginnig that has h is autograph and the quote? i really love that and want to get it!!! thanks
LpCCrunner55 2 months ago
In a few spots, the real Prefontaine is interchanged with Jared Leto from the movie Prefontaine. Amazing how much he looked like him.
ATeam192 4 months ago
stop/pre.......
ultrabikers1 7 months ago
I love this song...I crank it on my Ipod during speed work!
bsullivan161 7 months ago
When Nike was just thinking of
JUST DO IT
Steve JUST DID IT
LEGEND
GunGemini 8 months ago
Pre Lives.
IndomitusLupus 9 months ago
God Bless this man whom ran heart out in every race he ran. Pre has inspired me to become the best at running and I will stop at nothing to become the best. People look among yourselves for your fighting over nothing when this is tribute to a man who gave nothing but his best. Im a freshman in highschool but eveer since I heard of him I have become inspired to do nothing but run and not stop at all until my heart beats its final. Anyone who agrees with me thumbs up. R.I.P PRE WE ALL MISS YOU!
bader854 10 months ago
Steve Prefontaine actually has the world record time for the 3 mile
jimenezbeast2 10 months ago
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ABOUT258dirtybeaners 11 months ago
@ABOUT258dirtybeaners Well, maybe that's just because he just didn't have the ability to outkick runners in the homestretch. There are plenty of people who do the same thing- Galen Rupp usually hammers the last kilometer and people steal his glory- last year he led Bernard Lagat to the indoor 5K American Record and Solinsky to the 10K American record (going under both marks himself). This year he frontrun his way back to the indoor 5K record, but saw Mo Farah outkick him for a British record.
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ABOUT258dirtybeaners 10 months ago
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he died of aids
jetulik 11 months ago
The song and fag Leto suck!
TakeAShowerStinky 1 year ago
The gold medal in Munich was five seconds slower than Pre's time in the trials.
ShunyamNiketana 1 year ago 3
@ShunyamNiketana The olympic races are never about fast times. The recent Olympic race (in Beijing) was 20 seconds slower than Kenenisa Bekele's 12:37 world record and 11 slower than Kipchoge's. Either way, Viren had run 13:19 in the Finnish Trials and 13:16.4 in bad conditions after the Olympics. In terms of times, this is a moot point. Pre was not going to run away from Viren on this day.
YiftertheShifter1 1 year ago
i think every one should stop arguing about whos better. steve was a great runner. this video is about him. leave it at that
skaterman133 1 year ago 2
So Leto play Pre in the movie "Prefontaine" and he is the singer of 30 seconds to mars, so maybe that is why he picked the song. I mean come on lay off the guy.
vintageTFKrawks 1 year ago
bad music.
hatebadmusic 1 year ago
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he was a bigger drama queen than Jenny Barringer
lucasboden 2 years ago
I like 30 Seconds to Mars, but this music doesn't go with the video.
st00pidfart 2 years ago
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this music really sucks. pre hated music like this. he liked soft music. at least that's what his roomie pat tyson said.
raysalsa1 2 years ago
lmao wtf. why does it matter? this is music that i like so thats why i chose it. if you dont like it then dont listen to it
poot25 2 years ago 22
lol yea so true
lalimuraja 2 years ago
The singer in this band played Prefontaine in " Prefontaine ", and the message of the song is " run away ".
This is the most powerful music anyone could have chosen. Don't listen to these people who are clueless about the distinciton of this powerful presentation you made. Thanks for this inspirational video!
springsteel333 2 years ago 9
@poot25 hey I was wondering the picture of prefontaine at the very beginning of the video where did you get it? Like the picture that's at the very beginning of the vid because I would really appreciate it if you could tell me where I could it. Or like send it to me from the video. Any way would be greatly appreciated.
bader854 9 months ago
It a song performed by 30 seconds to mars...the lead singer played Pre in one of the movies...Jared Leto (sp)?
bsullivan161 1 year ago
@raysalsa1 i dont think music exactly of the same type of music like 30 seconds to mars was in the 70s
powayxc 2 months ago
showing pictures and video from the movies = gay
jtrisballin 2 years ago
ta bobo
Yohannamorales 2 years ago
Great video! Thanks for posting.
<3 Pre. Just the kind of video to get me even more hyped about the memorial 10k in Coos Bay this Saturday!
GregCochran82 2 years ago
ay.... fuck u yifter
TheGoddamnjews 2 years ago
ok dudes...stop arguing...only Pre can do better
supergirlnacnac 2 years ago
dude this is the perfect song for this video :)
omarxcpre 2 years ago
Can any1 tell me where to get the picture right at the start with the quote?
BillyTheKid62 2 years ago
I understand if you're ticked off about blood doping talk. I'm not one of those sore sports who thinks that. I've had to listen to that every time I celebrate a Lance Armstrong victory. Viren left people behind at the end of a race, the same way my man Bekele does, and we know both of those champions just work their asses off. If anyone accused Kenenisa Bekele of blood doping, I'd be ticked off too. When Pre left college competition in 73, he joked about how he couldn't beat Viren, among others.
springsteel333 2 years ago
The video said in the information, Prefontaine was an amazing runner.
This is strange how you find this offensive as a Viren fan. Are People who don't like Prefontaine that super sensitive? do they need constant boosts to their self asteem, so they can find their way back to their Gerry Lindgren videos, and their other runner's videos?.......I'm also a fan of Billy Mills. Oh, wait, do you have a problem with him to? O.K. I'll ask, what don't you like about Billy Mills? He's amazing. Still.
springsteel333 2 years ago
No, I understand how important Pre was to you, and don't find it offensive. I don't hate Pre, but when the classic arguments "Pre had more guts than Viren," "Pre could have beat Viren in Montreal," or better yet, "Viren blood doped, the only way he could've defeated Pre," then I must give you Pre fans a healthy dose of reality.
And I find nothing wrong with Billy Mills, the only American to ever win a 10k championship. A 10k runner myself, Mills tells me that Americans do have a chance still.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
The races in Montreal can not be successfully debated at all. Yifter wasn't there, and Prefontaine wasn't there. Yifter fans have a right to their opinion, and Prefontaine fans have a right to their opinion as well, and what better place than a Pre video. Who cares if we're wrong or not. I could debate how Bekele would kick Viren's behind, the way Yifter did, and I can debate that Radcliffe will win Olympic Gold in London (she will). Kara Goucher will win New York this year in an amazing finish.
springsteel333 2 years ago
But among all the rest, Foster, Dixon, Hildebrant, Quax, Lopes, Viren won, and he did it so brilliantly. It's not fair to compare Bekele and Viren, just as it isn't fair to compare, say, Jesse Owens and Carl Lewis. Times and training standards have improved over the years.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Alright, but how about comparing Paula Radcliffe with Kara Goucher. Get ready this Fall, for the New York City marathon. If the two of these women match up, it will be legendary, Even though Goucher has yet to win one, she is on the verge.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Paula Radcliffe is an outstanding athlete, and I wish her luck for London 2012.
Kara Goucher is USA's best hope on the marathon nowadays, but I heard she wants to take some time off after Boston (children?)
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Shorter specialized in the marathon like you said. Neither Prefontaine, nor Viren would attempt that distance. So, am I supposed to tell you easily that Shorter is by "far" the better runner than Viren. That would be too easy to do, and not even necessary, because this video is a celebration of greatness, not who is the best, because these people can't even race eachother today anyway. If you can actually understand that people celebrate others who inspire them, maybe you can watch Viren instead
springsteel333 2 years ago
What do you mean Viren didn't attempt that distance? He was doing fine, until the 37km, when the 30km he did earlier that week got the best of him.
I am well aware of the purpose of this video, Springsteel. But when comments that celebrate the greatness of one besmirch the name of another, then I can't really "shut up and go away."
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
just curious are you a runner yourself because you "appear to" know alot about famous runners.
RICKROLLEDSUX 2 years ago
As a matter of fact, yes, I do lots of running every week, specifically to prepare myself for the cross country season. I've hit or am close to hitting my peak mileage for the summer before turning the focus on speed.
Of course, once I'm hooked, I've got to know everything about the subject, explaining my encyclopedic knowledge.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
dude i can tell you havnt ran a day in your life obviuously a couch potato
gibsonplayer1356 2 years ago
On the contrary, I've run 50 miles this week, including a 10K time trial yesterday. I'll take today off to rest up before running 12 miles tomorrow (Sundays are the longer runs for me).
Any questions? Didn't think so. Don't make generalizations about people you don't know anything about, understood?
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
haha naw im going to stick with my gut on this one. I run D1 xc
gibsonplayer1356 2 years ago
Well, I don't give a damn, okay? You can make as many false assumptions about me as you wish, but I wouldn't spend one minute talking about running if I didn't do any of it myself. Good day to you, *sir.*
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
lmao if you liked pre you would probably run faster than an 18
gibsonplayer1356 2 years ago
Don't think I'm not working on it... Just finished those 12 miles (in extreme humidity/ 85 degree heat) that I talked about yesterday.
I like and watch runners who have achieved WAY more than Pre.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
calm the fuck down dude... sundays are usually the recovery days(the days you dont run)...nice
omarxcpre 2 years ago
You calm down, you foul-mouthed Pre worshipping jerk. I can take recovery days whenever I want, okay?
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
suck a dick.
omarxcpre 2 years ago
Whose? Yours? Wait... you don't have one.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
As you can see, I don't hang out on a Viren video.
I don't need to.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Well thank God for that, because if you're an asshole on a Pre video, you're probably a bigger asshole around Viren pages... but maybe you don't have *guts* to hang around them, because you're afraid to admit the true brilliance of the great Lasse Viren!
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Give it up Springsteel. No matter how hard you try, you cannot come up with a plausible (and I emphasize the word plausible because everything you've come up so far has been bullshit) argument that would smear Viren... Yifter, Shorter, and even Pre were great runners, and nobody malignantly questions the circumstances of their achievements... now do the same for Viren, and we can end this.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
I've always said Viren was great. My point is that all these runners were, and still are great if they run or not . Alot of people run because of Viren, and alot of people run because of Prefontaine.
Alot more people run because of Kara Goucher (She has incredible legs), even though she has yet to beat Paula Radcliffe (Who also has amazing legs). These women are taking running to new heights, which is what our favorite runners have always done.
springsteel333 2 years ago
That's better, Mr. "Viren looked like a total and complete amatuer" or Mr. "Yifter was way, way better than Viren." You seem to be switching from "Viren was great" and "Viren was a chicken." Make up your mind!
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Viren was great, and Viren was scared. Prefontaine was great, and Prefontaine was scared also.
This doesn't mean they didn't have courage. See, this isn't hard to grasp, don't worry, you'll get it.
springsteel333 2 years ago
ok you have offically creeped me out just give it up. just give it up!
RICKROLLEDSUX 2 years ago
Yiftertheshifter of course kicked Viren's wazoo soooo bad , that Yifter made Viren look like a total and complete amatuer. This was one of the easiest victories I've ever seen anyone run when Yifter just completeley dusted Viren on the bell lap , and made Viren's slow kick so ever visable for all the world to see during the Olympics......when it counted most. Yifter obviously far, far better than Viren, and Viren of course , not even in the same league, and not tough enough to race Shorter.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Yes, Yifter defeated Viren... Yifter is the only one who can be credited with defeating Viren, but:
1. Viren clearly wasn't in the best shape of his life in Moscow.
2. Perhaps I should remind your hopelessly forgetful ass for a brain that Yifter was defeated in Munich 10K and "vanished" before the 5K.
3. Viren having a slow kick?!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA! That's rich, compared to your boy who "dies in the final strides."
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Viren not tough enough to race Shorter... VIREN NOT TOUGH ENOUGH TO RACE SHORTER? CAN YOU BE ANY MORE OF A HOPELESSLY CONFUSED ASSHOLE?!!! CAN YOU?!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?!!!
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
I meant that Viren would not be tough enough, nor would Prefontaine, to race Frank Shorter in the Marathon, which Shorter won in the Munich Olympics.I sure hope you don't have some problem with the character of Frank Shorter also, the way you feel Prefontaine was so unacomplished in your opinion. I'm wondering how you'll explain that Viren somehow was a better marathoner than Shorter. If I go to a Frank Shorter video, are you going to comment on what a loser Shorter is, like you've tried here?
springsteel333 2 years ago
Springsteel333, Shorter had to focus on one race in Montreal, the marathon, which is his specialty. Viren ran four races, running a fast 30km in all, only 18 hours before a race he had never run in before (in fact he only said he'd consider it if he won both the 5k/10k, so it was more a bonus). So, what I am saying is that Shorter was a better marathoner, but Viren was not, as you said, "not tough enough to defeat Shorter," which obviously does not add up.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Oh, but to remind your ass:
1. The Munich 10K: Viren 1st, Shorter 5th... sounds like the Munich 5K: Viren 1st Pre 4th.
2. Can you name any athlete in the history of athletics run two heats of the 10K, two heats of the 5K, and then, only 18 hours afterwards, run a marathon? Anyone tough enough to do all that at the same time? Have you ever run a marathon? Have you ever run a 5K race, then, immediately afterwards, a marathon?
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
very proven facts. Im impressed!
RICKROLLEDSUX 2 years ago
If you can answer any of those questions favorably, I'll give you props, but if you are truly saying that Shorter, who only had to focus on the one and only race he had to run, a distance he specialized in, versus Viren, who had to run the heats/ finals of the 5K (winning all), and then the marathon, then you have to be one of the biggest and sorriest asshole I've ever met.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
The reason it's so easy to point out the conveniency of Viren's ......."hamstring injury", is because it's hilarious, and typical. I wouldn't want to race Pre either.
springsteel333 2 years ago
You wouldn't want to race Viren either, you little coward. Viren would race Pre and beat him any day... that he proved at the highest level (Munich Olympics) and a lower level (a match in Helsinki). Do you need me to repeat that again for you, asshole? VIREN RACED PRE TWICE: ONCE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, ONE AT A SIMPLE MEET... HE WON TWICE!!! YES, BOTH TIMES!!! WHAT MORE DOES HE HAVE TO PROVE TO SHOW YOU THAT HE WAS BETTER?!!!
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
If you love the "Viren" so much, why don't you go to a video where they feature Viren? Just a thought, because we celebrate Prefontaine here, because as much as you seem to be disapointed by this, Prefontaine is, was, and always will be a legend. (Soooo sorry if that hurts the feelings of Viren fans).
springsteel333 2 years ago
No, I'm cool with that. But the more you pander into what really happened from Munich 5K to the Montreal 5K, the more I have to correct you, and I never tire of doing it, because it takes one gold medal to become a hero, and it takes two to become a legend; Viren has four, so I can easily rub those four golds in your arrogant faces should I require it.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Are you still hanging around the Prefontaine videos? What's the matter? Viren videos aren't interesting enough, because certain runners had "way more guts" than him. Gold medals are great, especially if you have a fake job, and don't have to work for a living. Maybe that's why he was mysteriously injured all the time, and yeah, I never tire of talking about Pre, or Viren's mysterious injuries that put him in hospitals just before olympic time, and too fragile to race in Oregon. Pre-race jitters.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Lol. You know, I read not too long ago the report on the 3200m at the state high school meet. It was something along the lines of the eventual winner "trying to make the race as boring as possible" by frontrunning the race...
So, if Pre, like the winner of the state 3200m race, got his way, the Munich 5K would have been a very boring race indeed... Interesting isn't the word here...
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Viren not interesting enough? Viren ran some of the greatest races in Athletics history, particularly the Munich 10K and the fabulous Montreal 5K, the latter named one of the most epic races of the 1970s and the former the last time a world record was set at a long distance event in the Olympics, and an expression as to the "guts" that Viren has... many may have more guts than Viren, but Pre certainly is not one of them.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
You know, I would have thought your argument to be more plausible if Viren really dropped out of an Olympic race, where guts really matter, other than a race held by a stuck-up, vain, sore loser like Pre that's over 5000 miles away. But then again, it isn't lack of courage to race with an injured hamstring, it's the right and smart thing to do... that's where Viren bettered Pre... if having guts means racing stupidly, then I'd agree that Pre is a very gutsy runner and not Viren.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
yeah.........sure, right, injured hamstring. Boy , like that's never been used before. Quite an impressive excuse. Oh, sorry guys, I can't join you because I'm not part of the team, and besides, I don't want to have to face that tough runner from Oregon.....once again, I don't blame your viren for chickening out. He was not the first to be afraid to race Prefontaine in the states. Don't worry, there's no shame in Viren being afraid to run against certain runners. Facts are facts. Enjoyable ones.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Hmm... enjoyable facts:
Viren won 4 golds. Pre won 0.
Viren held the WRs for 5000, 10000, and 2 miles simulatenously. Pre set zero WRs.
Viren defeated Pre twice: once in Munich, and once in a match in Helsinki in 1974.
In 1975, Viren underwent surgery to repair his hamstring injury; if he had come to Oregan, he might have been in the car when the drunkard smashed it.
Lasse Viren is one of the greatest runners of all time; Pre is not.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Shall I continue?
Viren, in '72, was the last man to hold the Olympic and World records over 5/10K as well as 2 miles. Bekele has achieved all but not the 2 mile WR. Gebre in '97 had the WRs, but not the olympic 5K record.
Viren ran more in the 1976 olympics than any other runner in history (10K heat + final, 5K heat + final, marathon = 72.2 km). Were the marathon not so close to his amazing 5K victory, he might have picked up another medal.
Need any more?
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Viren having a fake job? Hehehehehe... Viren outran and tackled a thief in a Finnish orchard... Pre gave beer to people, then got drunk himself... maybe he committed suicide before he faced Viren again in Montreal... Next to your BS speculations, I'd say that's plausible
Face it: you've got nothing on the great Lasse Viren. He has 4. Your boy has 0.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Once again, you're are enjoying the Prefontaine video, while at the same time, I'm not on the viren video. Bet you can't guess why. It's because we're both celebrating Prefontaine. Prefontaine, and Viren never raced cross country, and viren was too chickenshit to race Prefontaine in the States. Why was he chicken? You have come up with some impressive excuses, and you are quite humorous to try and save your boy some face, but facts are facts. Aww, can't find a Viren video?
springsteel333 2 years ago
I'm sorry, springsteel333, I didn't hear you. I seemed to have gold medals in my ears... four of them, in fact. Can you please repeat that?
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Oh don't worry, I can find Viren videos... I watch them in between kicking your ass at this funny argument. I'd be annoyed for your being such a stubborn jackass, too afraid to admit the unfavorable truth, even after handing you solid proof (i.e. Viren's injury, which was real, and something all athletes face at least once, myself included), but it's quite easy defending a four-time gold medalist versus a "tough guy" who achieved next to nothing in global athletics.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
I agree the argument is funny, because you're arguing with yourself. I have pointed out to you several times, that my opinion is that Prefontaine was the fourth best 5000 meter runner in the world.
So, what point are you still in the process of trying to make? I even wonder if you know? Are you trying to say that Prefontaine wasn't fourth best in the world in 1972?....Your absolute failure in this conversation is that you're not going to turn Prefontaine fans into Viren fans. Sorry, Impossible
springsteel333 2 years ago
Good: you realized that he was fourth that race... well, he was fourth in '72, but probably less in '75.
So, by this argument, we have proven your twofold myth wrong:
That if Viren went to Oregon, Pre would have won. Fact: Viren has beaten Pre in both races for which they have met.
That since Viren did not go, he was a chicken. Fact: Viren feared no runner, especially one he had beaten twice. He wasn't afraid of runners who had beaten him (Foster).
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
((Your absolute failure in this conversation is that you're not going to turn Prefontaine fans into Viren fans))
More bullshit from a pathetically hopeless, stubborn jackass. My first comment here had nothing to do with Viren, Mr. "Pre's the only runner with guts." How much more BS can a hopelessly lost monkey like you utter? It's making me dizzy.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Beautiful to see a runner taking the race on by himself. To paraphrase Him, he was the only one who ran with his guts
deco9987 2 years ago
Are you serious?! I can name several runners who had WAY more guts than Pre... best I can think of is Zatopek, with training sessions that would make Pre vomit; Viren produced a way more sensational final kilometer in Montreal than Pre could ever have imagined... El G is another one, especially in the Athens 1500m... and many others who have either won or lost before and after Pre.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
sure Yifter the shifter....you can think of sooooo many runners who had more guts than Pre?, that explains why you spend your time on a Pre-Pre-sentation of the toughest runner, who your man viren was afraid of
springsteel333 2 years ago
Lol, you poor silly fool; maybe YOU are too afraid to admit that your boy was beaten in Munich and was sure as hell gonna get beat in Montreal. I've given up trying to explain that to you... it's like saying that Bekele, who had an injury, was "afraid" of Zersenay, so he forewent the World Cross Country championships. We know who is afraid here, and that most certainly was not Viren.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Viren.....do you want to join your team and race in Oregon, or do you want to stay home?...............I agree, better not go to Oregon to race that tough guy.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Better yet:
"Viren, that American dude just challenged you to another race."
"Let him come to Montreal and I'll give him another Munich-style world class ass-whupping. Hopefully he doesn't get drunk and crash his car along the way."
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
El G is nothing compared to Bekele. ....but since we're on a Prefontaine presentation, let's admit that the story behind Prefontaine, is that of unrealized potential. We can't argue about how good he was, when we'll never know how good, that's the point of the story, and yet, there are still those here who think they know how much better others were....which proves they don't know anything.
springsteel333 2 years ago
EL G NOTHING COMPARED TO BEKELE?!!! You're not serious, are you? ARE YOU?!!! And incidentally, Bekele has perhaps the closest Olympic record to Viren, does he not? Their races I've noted to be quite similar... you've indirectly complimented a man you bash constantly just because he and his accomplishments tower over your short little body and that of your poor boy who, if anything, taught us the consequences of drinking and driving.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Ah yes, this unrealized potential... heck, using this funny excuse "unrealized potential" we've seen people say that Pre could've ran 12:36 for 5000 meters. We've seen people say he could have won in Montreal, using this "unrealized potential," more a woulda, coulda, shoulda argument. We'll never know fully how much Pre could do, but his early years, his 13:21.8 PR, are the strongest indication, not baseless assumption and heresay.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
If you'll notice, I wasn't stating that fact as the basis for an argument. That fact is just what it is, a fact. The world is made up of facts, and as you can see , the fact remains that we're all at the Pre Pre-sentation, and not the one about Viren. The facts are you are on the Prefontaine obsession, just like everyone here, and it is freightening to think what he might have done in Montreal, and beyond. You're right.
springsteel333 2 years ago
Wow, what a load of BS. I am no more obsessed with Prefontaine as you are... the facts are that, with this "unrealized potential" excuse, Pre would have claimed every gold medal in track and field, ran 5000 meters in less than a second, and that he was so terrifying that the only man in history to retain a 5000 meter title, who was in 1974/75 suffering with injuries, was SO AFRAID of an athlete he defeated by over ten meters at the highest stage of competition... LOL
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Yeah, your LOL reaction is the same one I had when Viren whimpered out on his team when they came west (don't blame him). .......If You will notice, you said another runner was "nothing" compared to El G. So I of course used your silly comment against your argument. See the pattern here? you to say something insulting to the Prefontaine legend, and I of course, use that against your argument by doing the same to your hero , who is on a different video if he even has one. Do he? well, do he?
springsteel333 2 years ago
"If You will notice, you said another runner was "nothing" compared to El G...." Now where the hell did I say that? Putting words in my mouth? Wouldn't be the first time you make something up, would it? I wonder if Pre whimped out of facing Viren in the 10,000 meters in Munich... it would have been fun to see that... maybe more so than the Munich 5K... maybe, Pre was not gutsy enough to try two races, so he just stuck with what he thought was his best event, and lost... to three people.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
You still haven't told me if you were serious about El G being "nothing" compared to Bekele... take that back, or do you stand by a sentiment that will attract ridicule by nearly anyone familiar with these two?
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
Pre was a God. You can tell by the way he ran he wasn't on Steroids!!!!!!!!!!
Today's runners have better shoes, ideal running conditions, laxed sports regulations, endorcements, shorter hair?, and so on....
Most of the athletes today are on performance enhancers. Nobody can compare him to today's runners because of this.
Pre did it right and makes me proud of him, he stayed clean and didn't let anyone point their finger in his face.
starbrighter 2 years ago
1. Err... you don't become a God by not using steroids...
2. The athletes of his time were given similar advantages/disadvantages, and, indeed, many accomplished more than him.
3. Well, some indeed are caught with performance enhancers, but that you say most use them do this is a baseless accusation... sort of like saying all baseball players use steroids.
4. The clincher: It's usually the big winners (i.e. Lasse Viren) who get fingers pointed at them.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
To say that Prefontaine wasn't a "big winner" at the sport of track and field, and cross country running means you simply haven't done your homework, and are only basing everything on competitions that happen every four years. Anyone who studies running knows Prefontaine won "big" in cross country, and track and field, and I'm not even sure what Viren's cross country record was? Of course we all know cross country is the true measure of a runner.
springsteel333 2 years ago
1. In Pre's chance to show us that he was everything you say he was, he was beaten by three runners.
2. Pre won zero world cross country championships (which he had three opportunities to do: '73-'75).
To summarize: Pre won zero olympic/multi-national titles over track/cross country, and set zero world records. All his credentials were on the American level, but not on the world level. In other words, in America, Pre was a big winner. Worldwide, as per Munich, Pre was the big loser.
YiftertheShifter1 2 years ago
The music is SHIT!!!!
jovauri 2 years ago
i have to disagree but I see your point sir.
sailoptired999 2 years ago
to get 4th place in the olympics at only 21 yrs old is outstanding. he had 8+ years left in his career. it's too bad he had to die so young... and right before montreal, too.
GetUpAndTryAgain 2 years ago
to get first first in the olympics 10,000m at 2003 world championships aged 21 is smthing and aged 22 win the olympics 10,000m and 2nd in the 5k is somthing from bekele. 4th isnt that good. And what about eluid kipchoge aged 18!!!! winning the 5k at WC 2003. Now thats somthing. Meh if u ask me if he was just a big mouthed typical american who promised a lot more than he could actually do. Viren was the real hero
racketer 2 years ago
chill. anyone who even goes to the olympics or championships is very good. and don't bring america or other countries into this. it has nothing to do with what i said.
GetUpAndTryAgain 2 years ago
still he promised more than he could bring
racketer 2 years ago
that's true.
GetUpAndTryAgain 2 years ago
Wow, your a fucktard and no nothing, Pre isn't famous for the olympics! He is famous for standing up to the AAU and never backing down. He put his guts into every race and in my oppion was so much more fun to watch then Bekele or Kipchoge. He had something in his eyes that no one else did!
Kavikrunner 2 years ago 10
yes dude shut up... bekele and kipchoge are monsters... prodiges from nature, pre was great, tu achieve a 4th place in the olympics plus all the american records he set up, is admirable, apart from that his personality and heart is what counts... obviously there are better runners than him outhere, but pre always will be pre
jonathonpower6666 2 years ago
ya but viren said that it was because of pre that he won, pre made the race and made every1 who beat him push harder than they ever could. and pre wasnt some big mouthed typical american, he was some1 who worked themselves to the bone to live out wat others said he couldnt do and to do it in flying colors. he didnt promise anythin he couldnt do, all he wanted to do was not race to be the fastest, but race to be the one who was most willing to put themselves through hell to come out on top.
ap1234512 2 years ago
He promised a gold medal and a sub 4minutes last mile but didnt come through on either of them. And this bullshit about him saying people always douted him if just rubbish and viren prob would of won the race whatever way it was run. With the powerfull kick viren had he could of won it in a slow race or fast.
racketer 2 years ago
he may not of been the best runner ever but i my opinion he was the most fun to watch
limewater012 2 years ago
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runmofaster 2 years ago
The best pace is suicide pace and today is a good day to die - PRE
Betterment8521 2 years ago
whered you get the first picture in the very beginning its sweet.
codylover2468 2 years ago
Kick ass video poot25....... Long live the memory of PRE
toddb25 2 years ago
steve prefontaine is one of the greattest runners this world has ever seen!
runnercick993 2 years ago
great compilation
rockstar740 2 years ago
Great Video and Even Greater song.
Jared and his group Rock!
runsaul 2 years ago
OK Viren beat Pre in the olympics YES BUT later on Prea and Viren ran in the same race and PRe got second and VIren died out to 5th !!
Viren was prosecued for blood doping
SO PRE IS THE MAN
cmehmen 2 years ago
PRE's the man but that is despicaple to claim that Viren used doping.
commontrol 2 years ago
didn't it really come down to pre being an amateur and viren being a professional runner?
filoIII 2 years ago
people. the bottom line is that viren -did- beat pre that day. but it isn't always the best runner who wins in a race. how many great athletes have we seen crumble at the olympics, and when they were the favorites? tables turn all the time.
GetUpAndTryAgain 2 years ago
Read some of the comments, and love Pre, but as a former competitive runner myself - I know that Viren was better. I'm also sure that Pre would have agreed. It really isn't any of our place to talk about heart - they both had plenty.
aimeeandwalter 3 years ago
viren may have beaten him
pre had more heart
henryniciuhh 3 years ago
Virenkickedpresass...SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! UR SO INSECURE THAT ALL YOU DO IS JUST GO AROUND INSULTING PRE...I DONT SEE ANY VIDEOS ABOUT FUCKIN VIREN THE FAG!!! SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
omarxcpre 3 years ago
hey whay song is on this video its a sweet song
xcswimmerdude 3 years ago
Attack by 30 Seconds to Mars
omarxcpre 3 years ago
Hey Where Did u get the First picture of Pre
in Yellow and Green
SwEEt!!!!! oh and the vIdeo pretty Cool Too
105355f 3 years ago
Stop Fighting!!! okay.. we all know that Pre is the best :)
omarxcpre 3 years ago
Prefontaine is the best ever.
starbrighter 3 years ago
why the hell is everyone arguing?!
poot25 3 years ago
I lova yah ma darling for making this fabelous movie:):):):)
Make som more plz:P
jonnybravo8 3 years ago
thanks :)
poot25 3 years ago
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The GREATEST RUNNER OF ALL TIME: Norwegian Vebjørn Rodahl, gold 800m Atlanta, olympic 800m record.
Smee, goan fuck yourself:)
jonnybravo8 3 years ago
dude without limits is the best steve prefontaine movie ever made....
omarxcpre 3 years ago
hey, if you look at the actual video of the race. one commentator says that prefontaine will be the 5000m champion, but that he will have to wait until montreal to be so.
HottRunner 3 years ago 5
dude dont listen to those faggets..u made an amazing video..very inspiring
omarxcpre 3 years ago
A good runner shouldn't and isn't measured by his medals but how he runs and the heart he shows
laucherb 3 years ago 8
Dude, you completely missed the point. Kyle Boller won a SuperBowl with Baltimore; does that mean he's a better QB than Dan Marino, who never won one? Larry Bird was not an athletic wonder, he just had more determination and work ethic than others that had more talent. You have to have an open mind when comparing someone who was killed as he was just coming into his prime with some others than had much longer, uninterupted careers. I'm not saying he's the best, just better than most.
bigistrickis 3 years ago
He was never known as a "natural" talent like a lot of others in his time. He worked his ass off for what he accomplished. He owned every American record from 2000 to 10000 meters. He was still a young runner when he lost in the olympics but even so, he was already the favorite to win in Montreal before he died.
bigistrickis 3 years ago
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He was NEVER known AS A NATURAL?!?! Are you smoking CRACK? Not known as a natural because PRE said he WASN'T!?!? Pre was the ONLY one who said, "it is all hard work, no talent". So, let's see. He goes undefeated throughout his high school career. Virtually undefeated in College. Wins the Olympic trials. 4th in the games. Gosh, I see your point. Only a fool would think he was not a "natural", especially with a pathetic career such as he had. Wise up, man.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
FUCK YOU!!!!
omarxcpre 3 years ago
What a PUSSY. Go worship your "idol" that died drunk.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
elvis , kurt cobaine, johnny cash pete rose all losers according to this guy ^. bill clinton. jose canseco, sean sherk, all losers. according to this guy. what have you done lately?
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
Yep, all losers, everyone of them. Nothing illegal, or put someones life in jeopardy.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
all i was saying legality issue or not was that if prefont was to come into her life if he was still alive it would be the best thing ever and how can you argue. and btw none of those people put anyones life in danger besides the ordinary traffic violation. fuck obama
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
What?!? Driving stoned or drunk and they didn't put anyones life in danger?!? NO, they were LUCKY, and they put EVERYONES life in danger.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
well let me ask you something. how could they have ever put anyones life in danger if they never hurt or killed anyone? "could of" is something you should stay away from. could of would of should of, all mean nothing. should of would of and could of are all things that never happened therefor can't be applied. your response to this will fall into one of those terms because it simply has to therefor means nothing.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
Learn to spell and write before you pretend to show your intelligence, but in reality show your ignorance. Then, "could of, should of, would of" in regards to pre winning in 76, all mean nothing.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
reguards? sorry. i didn't know what depths you would stoop to to gain the upper hand in a conversation.
sorry to break it to you, but spelling errors play a very small role when considering someones intelligence. spelling is a skill. intelligence is something your born with or your not. a person can be book smart and dumb at the same time.
on a plus note, your right, "could of, would of, and should of" mean absolutely nothing. its like talking about something that doesn't exist.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
weren't you the one who pointed out a minor spelling error in my post?
well if spelling constitutes intelligence, then how much of part does grammar play?
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
" in much of part"? You tell me. "reguards"? What dictionary are you looking in?
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
listen i didn't start with you. all i was saying was that even though those athletes i pointed out have done some bad things in their lives, 99.9999 percent of the people on this planet have yet to come close to what they have accomplished. you obviously don't care what is wrong or right at this point in time to be pointing out gramatical errors and calling me dumb because of it.HOW DOES NOT BEING ABLE TO SPELL "CERTAIN" WORDS MAKE SOMEONE DUMB? EXPLANATION PLEASE. or not, not would be better.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
you would make a bad lawyer. could of , would of, and should of doesn't hold any weight in a court room because you can't blame someone for something they didn't do. driving drunk is not a valid enough reason to call someone a piece of shit. many people do it on a regular basis. if you want to blame someone, point your finger at the government for allowing people to DRIVE to the store to purchase the very thing that they arrest people for doing while they drive.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
One more time, DUMBASS, They PUT SOMEONES LIFE IN DANGER, DUMBASS. Were they LUCKY they didn't KILL SOMEONE? Sure, DUMBASS, but they STILL put someones life in danger, didn't they, DUMBASS?
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
you must hate life.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
I love it. You're just a dumbass.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
well if you loved life you wouldn't feel the need to be unreasonable and cruel. here's a fact, happy people don't insult others to make themselves feel better.(they are happy without it.)
its the truth. i with you the best with your life because thats all i can do. i hope you see the error of your ways because until you change your attitude your life will never get better.
ill pray for you.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
Sounds like you read that right out of a Dr. Phil book. I only seem unreasonable to you because you say ignorant things.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
ill pray for you.
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
Thank you, and for yourself pray for wisdom.
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
:) will do!
bluehighlighterfreak 3 years ago
ok!
VirenKickedPresAss 3 years ago
if you hate pre so much then why do you watch every single video that gas to do with him? I think its time for you to give it a rest from the right hand and get a life
irishkid444 2 years ago
"gas"? Hey dumbshit, I never said I hated Pre.
VirenKickedPresAss 2 years ago
ok... simple typo... one i posted that i knew you were gonna try to tell me i was stupid for saying that, you cant judge someone's intelligence from a typo... i meant "has" not "gas" and from looking at all your comments, most would guess you hated pre
o and calling me a dumbshit is kind of childish
irishkid444 2 years ago
GAS