what exactly is one supposed to be proud of? the government? the physical landscape? the history? all of these are flawed to the point of shame (the second one is simply subjective). patriotism is a floating abstaction.
"if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."
[P3] No matter what the Clinton's did during his time in office, African Americans stood by them. Now one of their own is running against them. Look in the mirror here people; they are turning on everybody along the way who doesn't stand with them. Turnabout is fair play Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. You played your cards to close to the vest this time.
[P2] The Clinton's have no real power, the little influence they once had is now eroding day by day with this bitter campaign. Clinton supports are frustrated that Hillary is losing and they come to these blogs to run these rhetorical 'mad-mouth' rants. The Clinton's lost this campaign fair and square on their terms. They played hardball and were dismissive to allot of people along the way. Especially, African Americans, who stood by them more than anybody in the world.
[P3] Now one of their own is running against them. Look in the mirror here people; they are turning on everybody along the way who doesn't stand with them. Turnabout is fair play Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. You played your cards to close to the vest this time.
Clinton is a very smart and talented guy.You in America would do well to ignore the petty malicious gossip masquerading as legitimate news media and pay attention to the issues.This kind of nonsense is dragging your country down.
It was subtle, but definitely implied. Keep in mind the whole point of what he said was "this is why Hillary is better than Barack." Maybe he was taking a dig at the media, but it's far from clear.
And what's with his last remark: "and if north carolina votes for her, she'll end up this process with more popular votes, and I believe she'll be the nominee of the party"
Is that what we are in for with an Obama Presidency? Say anything, no matter how truthful or clear, if it puts the man in a bad light....it's branded RACIST? Come on. Obama's effect is not encouraging dialog...it is shutting it down.
How twisted and dumb do you have to be to listen to what he said and interpret that he was questioning anyone patriotism? All he said was it would be nice if for a change we could have and election that's about the issues, who stands where on them, instead of concentrating on all this crap that always finds it's way into our elections. That's what I heard, but i think that's b/c I actually listened to what he said.
After the courageous and wise Richardson, Al Gore in the way to close the deal, and tell the Clintons, its over, of course Pelosi's is lost case for them, she packing Obama from early beginning (watch her interview with (George Stephanopoulos, on ABC) and you'll got know it's over for the Clintons ;)
Give me a break. In '92, Bill Clinton was accused of lacking patriotism and being a traitor to his country because he refused to fight in Vietnam. Now, 15 years later, he's willing to use that same line of attack against a fellow Democrat?
He should be ashamed but we learned long ago that it takes a hell of a lot to shame Bill. More importantly, you guys should be ashamed for supporting him while he does it.
The things that strikes me about his comments isn't just the fact that he says an election between McCain and Clinton would be an election between "two people who love their country" by omission implying that Obama doesn't, which is outrageous. But its that AGAIN, the Clinton's are preparing their voters to vote for McCain in the General. Listen to the language. He all but says that Hillary is good, but McCain should be option 1A.
The Clinton's are now openly campaigning for John McCain.
Bill's coming to South Bend tomorrow. I wish I could be there to boo him. This man doesn't care about the Democratic Party. Barack Obama is going to be the nominee. Period. For him to be out there cheerleading for John McCain is despicable of him.
Your talking about the only democratic president we have had since Jimmy Carter, who served this country well. He cares deeply about the democratic party. It is disturbing to me how the Obama campaign seems to have forgotten this fact. That campaign has worked overtime to try and make everyone forget how great the 90's were and have just like the republicans accused both of them of horrible things.i.e racism.
Is he now campaigning for both Hillary and McCain. You would think Hillary would defend a fellow Dem. She wants the power at any cost and gives the middle finger to the rest of the country. She could care less whether we approve.
This is the latest chapter in the Swift Boating of the Clintons by the Obama campaign. The spin started there, but the Huffington Post picked it up. Bill's talking before Stonewall Jackson Post 1160, and they have a lot of regard for John McCain. Surprised? He says, if my wife is the nominee, wouldn't it be great to just have a discussion of the issues, instead of all these "distractions," as Obama said? The New Left Echo Machine lies just like Limbaugh.
I don't think anyone outside of NC really understands just how much a lot of people, white and black alike, dislike HRC here. She is generally thought of as either a shrill & dishonest politician, or else a propped-up overly-ambitious substitute for her husband. I supported the Clintons for years as the best hope against Reagan/Rove/Gingrich-style politics, but now it's time to move on. Obama will win the primary here in NC in a landslide.
I really don't think that Bill Clinton wants Hillary to be the nominee/President. Why else would he repeatedly go out and do what he could to tick off the electorate? S. Carolina should have been a huge warning sign for someone who accidentally upset the voters. Bringin this back again either shows he's dens (Very doubtful) or intentionally sabotaging her run. Not that I mind. Anything to send Sen. Clinton back to the Senate is fine with me.
Mark my words...if Hillary does not become the Democratic Nominee and future President. Sooner then later Hillary will dump President Clinton and ask for a divorce. The only reason she hanged onto him after his public affair is for personal ambition. Hillary without a Clinton name would have no chance to winning a election.
Bill Clinton should know better. He was attcked for his lack of patriotism in 1992 because he was a draft dodger. He chose to stay in school so he would not go to Vietnam. He should not attack Senator Obama on patriotism. The Repubs will do it but he shouldn't attack a fellow Democrat.
I don't where the offense is. Really. Obama's campain is dirty. He claim he can bring change..how can you bring change if you play the same politics as the one he tries to change.How can you bring change if good old politicians are behing the curtains running the show. How can anybody voteforObama when he defends his [hater]pastor rather than defending the United States of America.Obama doesn't bring any change... this is the same politicians always play.He's a good orator though..lol
to attack and not heal.All you do is incoherently extinguish lines and phases,extract and expand issues without understanding substance and its entirety.She injects a bias view, a view to attack&fight
Maybe he loves it...maybe. We don't know. That's the trouble. His church loves Africa over America and has no problem saying so at their site. Michelle has never been proud to be an American. Could you love a country you feel NO pride in? I couldn't. We don't know what Obama loves. I don't know and you don't know.
What do we really KNOW about any of them. See if you can find the full sermon of Rev. Wright on youtube, and listen to the whole talk. I find it much less offensive, when I listen to the whole message. And, I tend to agree with Richardson, I think Obama is the kind of leader that comes along once a century. I hope he is. We sure need someone with the ability to communicate, and the vision to lead.
Here is the uproar..To suggest that Obama does not love america is foolish and just shows the clintons are desperate and grasping at straws..If he beleived all the candidates loves our country he would not have insinuated that only if mccain and hilary battle it out that it would be between two people that love this country.Thayts purely disgraceful.
The offensive part is he is claiming that hilary and john maccain love america but Obama does not and thats highly offensive..He has no proof to show on that claim..Why else even make that statement If he beleived barack loved america too?.We see over and over again the clinton's will do whatever it takes to be in the white house..Even lie and cheat..Disgraceful
Thank you so much you desperate Obamacrat for shwoing the turth about Obama and the Clintons. We are able to see the turth. The truth that Obama is desperate and trying hard to attack her in any negative ways he can contrary to the story Obama is trying to push that he is the politics of hope. He was actually saying that issues are what needs to be delt with.. and that who has the best policy positions. So shame on Obama & supporters for thinking otherwise!
RdReddevil, Disagree that Obama's desperate. He's in fact won the popular vote, won in pledged delegates, & won in the number of state delegations that support him. The question for me really is, what kind of crazy ego trip are the Clintons on by still trying (unsuccessfully) to bring him down? Lust for power eventually fails, but can cause an awful lot of destruction along the way. You know it's bad when Limbaugh's ditto-heads are trying to elect her. Time to accept the will of the voters.
chamilt6, Indeed the Clintons can, and do, say anything. That's the point people are objecting to. There are still 3 candidates here. Bill Clinton expressly excluded Obama by saying that if HRC and McCain were running, we'd have 2 people who love their country. And then went on to say, instead of this other "stuff" that intrudes on politics - in other words...the attacks AGAINST Obama. This is called blaming the victim, when in fact McCain's & HRCs campaigns have been the origin of the attacks.
Clinton is a treasonous globalist pig and so is the bitch wife that he'd rather not fuck...
one800rob 1 year ago
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Wang17257 2 years ago
patriotism is irrational. period.
what exactly is one supposed to be proud of? the government? the physical landscape? the history? all of these are flawed to the point of shame (the second one is simply subjective). patriotism is a floating abstaction.
fede2 3 years ago
BIBLE QUOTE: MATTHEW 18:9
"if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."
MaskedCartoon 3 years ago
[P3] No matter what the Clinton's did during his time in office, African Americans stood by them. Now one of their own is running against them. Look in the mirror here people; they are turning on everybody along the way who doesn't stand with them. Turnabout is fair play Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. You played your cards to close to the vest this time.
nine110 3 years ago
[P2] The Clinton's have no real power, the little influence they once had is now eroding day by day with this bitter campaign. Clinton supports are frustrated that Hillary is losing and they come to these blogs to run these rhetorical 'mad-mouth' rants. The Clinton's lost this campaign fair and square on their terms. They played hardball and were dismissive to allot of people along the way. Especially, African Americans, who stood by them more than anybody in the world.
nine110 3 years ago
[P3] Now one of their own is running against them. Look in the mirror here people; they are turning on everybody along the way who doesn't stand with them. Turnabout is fair play Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. You played your cards to close to the vest this time.
nine110 3 years ago
Obamathan? Did Fox buy You Tube?
Why not LISTEN to candidates and not commentators. Or bloggers.(computerese for bullshit artist, or grammer and spelling challenged.)
cedonn 3 years ago
50% of all Americans must be stupid. You fools prefer words over action, glitter over substance.
Sure looks like the beginning of the end for the American Hegemony.
13constitution 3 years ago
Clinton is a very smart and talented guy.You in America would do well to ignore the petty malicious gossip masquerading as legitimate news media and pay attention to the issues.This kind of nonsense is dragging your country down.
bluesborn 3 years ago
It was subtle, but definitely implied. Keep in mind the whole point of what he said was "this is why Hillary is better than Barack." Maybe he was taking a dig at the media, but it's far from clear.
And what's with his last remark: "and if north carolina votes for her, she'll end up this process with more popular votes, and I believe she'll be the nominee of the party"
Talk about SPIN.
CadaverPolitik 3 years ago
Is that what we are in for with an Obama Presidency? Say anything, no matter how truthful or clear, if it puts the man in a bad light....it's branded RACIST? Come on. Obama's effect is not encouraging dialog...it is shutting it down.
2seat 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this! I was looking for a video that gave me the context in which BC said the patriotism remark.
eip81 3 years ago
How twisted and dumb do you have to be to listen to what he said and interpret that he was questioning anyone patriotism? All he said was it would be nice if for a change we could have and election that's about the issues, who stands where on them, instead of concentrating on all this crap that always finds it's way into our elections. That's what I heard, but i think that's b/c I actually listened to what he said.
KAT91605 3 years ago 3
After the courageous and wise Richardson, Al Gore in the way to close the deal, and tell the Clintons, its over, of course Pelosi's is lost case for them, she packing Obama from early beginning (watch her interview with (George Stephanopoulos, on ABC) and you'll got know it's over for the Clintons ;)
wingsmasters 3 years ago
Down with the TRAITOR-RACIST!
CLINTON 08'
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
Give me a break. In '92, Bill Clinton was accused of lacking patriotism and being a traitor to his country because he refused to fight in Vietnam. Now, 15 years later, he's willing to use that same line of attack against a fellow Democrat?
He should be ashamed but we learned long ago that it takes a hell of a lot to shame Bill. More importantly, you guys should be ashamed for supporting him while he does it.
freff 3 years ago
Clinton talks civilly about an opponent and you Obama people go nuts. Isn't that the new kind of politics that Obama is talking about?
kreskytim 3 years ago
The things that strikes me about his comments isn't just the fact that he says an election between McCain and Clinton would be an election between "two people who love their country" by omission implying that Obama doesn't, which is outrageous. But its that AGAIN, the Clinton's are preparing their voters to vote for McCain in the General. Listen to the language. He all but says that Hillary is good, but McCain should be option 1A.
The Clinton's are now openly campaigning for John McCain.
freff 3 years ago
It's seems as if no one is acknowledging his comment about stepping above the issues!!! You guys will get excited about anything. It's kind of sad...
chamilt6 3 years ago 2
Bill's coming to South Bend tomorrow. I wish I could be there to boo him. This man doesn't care about the Democratic Party. Barack Obama is going to be the nominee. Period. For him to be out there cheerleading for John McCain is despicable of him.
gamefreaks365 3 years ago 2
Your talking about the only democratic president we have had since Jimmy Carter, who served this country well. He cares deeply about the democratic party. It is disturbing to me how the Obama campaign seems to have forgotten this fact. That campaign has worked overtime to try and make everyone forget how great the 90's were and have just like the republicans accused both of them of horrible things.i.e racism.
KAT91605 3 years ago
Is he now campaigning for both Hillary and McCain. You would think Hillary would defend a fellow Dem. She wants the power at any cost and gives the middle finger to the rest of the country. She could care less whether we approve.
ag2twins 3 years ago
This is the latest chapter in the Swift Boating of the Clintons by the Obama campaign. The spin started there, but the Huffington Post picked it up. Bill's talking before Stonewall Jackson Post 1160, and they have a lot of regard for John McCain. Surprised? He says, if my wife is the nominee, wouldn't it be great to just have a discussion of the issues, instead of all these "distractions," as Obama said? The New Left Echo Machine lies just like Limbaugh.
Swift2001 3 years ago
I don't think anyone outside of NC really understands just how much a lot of people, white and black alike, dislike HRC here. She is generally thought of as either a shrill & dishonest politician, or else a propped-up overly-ambitious substitute for her husband. I supported the Clintons for years as the best hope against Reagan/Rove/Gingrich-style politics, but now it's time to move on. Obama will win the primary here in NC in a landslide.
Verified1 3 years ago
I really don't think that Bill Clinton wants Hillary to be the nominee/President. Why else would he repeatedly go out and do what he could to tick off the electorate? S. Carolina should have been a huge warning sign for someone who accidentally upset the voters. Bringin this back again either shows he's dens (Very doubtful) or intentionally sabotaging her run. Not that I mind. Anything to send Sen. Clinton back to the Senate is fine with me.
Russman67 3 years ago
Mark my words...if Hillary does not become the Democratic Nominee and future President. Sooner then later Hillary will dump President Clinton and ask for a divorce. The only reason she hanged onto him after his public affair is for personal ambition. Hillary without a Clinton name would have no chance to winning a election.
ryanjwhite 3 years ago
Bill Clinton should know better. He was attcked for his lack of patriotism in 1992 because he was a draft dodger. He chose to stay in school so he would not go to Vietnam. He should not attack Senator Obama on patriotism. The Repubs will do it but he shouldn't attack a fellow Democrat.
captainkickbutt 3 years ago
I don't where the offense is. Really. Obama's campain is dirty. He claim he can bring change..how can you bring change if you play the same politics as the one he tries to change.How can you bring change if good old politicians are behing the curtains running the show. How can anybody voteforObama when he defends his [hater]pastor rather than defending the United States of America.Obama doesn't bring any change... this is the same politicians always play.He's a good orator though..lol
androidestereo 3 years ago
Calm down cynic....Don't attack just because
you losing and we winning CRY CRY CRY all you
want Hillary don't teach her supporters how
to raise above.But she continue to demonize
and fraternize injecting ya"ll with ignorance
to attack and not heal.All you do is incoherently extinguish lines and phases,extract and expand issues without understanding substance and its entirety.She injects a bias view, a view to attack&fight
Rather to come togeter and work as a team.
DereckLamar 3 years ago
Hillary Clinton is desperate.
LoveAfricaAlways 3 years ago
Hillary Clinton is desperate.
LoveAfricaAlways 3 years ago
So, patriotism is no longer a requirement for U.S. President today? Thank you for letting me know!
gcdzs99 3 years ago
Maybe he loves it...maybe. We don't know. That's the trouble. His church loves Africa over America and has no problem saying so at their site. Michelle has never been proud to be an American. Could you love a country you feel NO pride in? I couldn't. We don't know what Obama loves. I don't know and you don't know.
juciberi 3 years ago
What do we really KNOW about any of them. See if you can find the full sermon of Rev. Wright on youtube, and listen to the whole talk. I find it much less offensive, when I listen to the whole message. And, I tend to agree with Richardson, I think Obama is the kind of leader that comes along once a century. I hope he is. We sure need someone with the ability to communicate, and the vision to lead.
ShirleyGirrrl 3 years ago 2
juciberi, ummm....yes I do know. It always amuses me when people claim to be mind readers and give opinions on behalf of the rest of us.
Verified1 3 years ago
Prez HillBill...PLEASE SIT DOWN (and shut up)!!! I'm convinced, a vote for Hillary is a vote for you. Three terms is unconstitutional.
4motown 3 years ago
Here is the uproar..To suggest that Obama does not love america is foolish and just shows the clintons are desperate and grasping at straws..If he beleived all the candidates loves our country he would not have insinuated that only if mccain and hilary battle it out that it would be between two people that love this country.Thayts purely disgraceful.
spiderj19 3 years ago
The offensive part is he is claiming that hilary and john maccain love america but Obama does not and thats highly offensive..He has no proof to show on that claim..Why else even make that statement If he beleived barack loved america too?.We see over and over again the clinton's will do whatever it takes to be in the white house..Even lie and cheat..Disgraceful
spiderj19 3 years ago
Thank you so much you desperate Obamacrat for shwoing the turth about Obama and the Clintons. We are able to see the turth. The truth that Obama is desperate and trying hard to attack her in any negative ways he can contrary to the story Obama is trying to push that he is the politics of hope. He was actually saying that issues are what needs to be delt with.. and that who has the best policy positions. So shame on Obama & supporters for thinking otherwise!
RdReddevil 3 years ago
Bull shit! That is most bull shit line i heard all day.
DereckLamar 3 years ago
RdReddevil, Disagree that Obama's desperate. He's in fact won the popular vote, won in pledged delegates, & won in the number of state delegations that support him. The question for me really is, what kind of crazy ego trip are the Clintons on by still trying (unsuccessfully) to bring him down? Lust for power eventually fails, but can cause an awful lot of destruction along the way. You know it's bad when Limbaugh's ditto-heads are trying to elect her. Time to accept the will of the voters.
Verified1 3 years ago 2
I don't see anything offensive. Again, Obama seems to try to find anything to claim the Clintons are attacking him.
mecbrg 3 years ago
Yeah -- I'm an Obama supporter, but really don't get the uproar about this.
Groovology 3 years ago
What was so offensive...I guess the Clinton's can't say anything!!!!
chamilt6 3 years ago
chamilt6, Indeed the Clintons can, and do, say anything. That's the point people are objecting to. There are still 3 candidates here. Bill Clinton expressly excluded Obama by saying that if HRC and McCain were running, we'd have 2 people who love their country. And then went on to say, instead of this other "stuff" that intrudes on politics - in other words...the attacks AGAINST Obama. This is called blaming the victim, when in fact McCain's & HRCs campaigns have been the origin of the attacks.
Verified1 3 years ago 2
What a complete disgrace
crayz999 3 years ago