I´m not sure If a vacuum train would be worth its price at such small distances like inside switzerland or from city to city inside europe.
But I hope that in ~100 years there will be a vactrain network straight around the world with the trains reaching a speed up to several thousands of kph. Being faster and cheaper than ships and planes. Also at this time in the future there will be a high enough population in the world to support something like this better.
Unfortunately this projects been cancelled but it has been taken up by China read this fascinating article on the future of vacuum trains: ceasefiremagazine. co . uk/2010/09/science-china-train/
Ein wichtiger schritt vorallem die Länder miteinander zu verbinden so hätte man nciht mer das problehm von lokomotiv wechserl oder sonstigem. also nur ein vortiel zudem würde es wirtschaft udn tourismus antreiben
Somehow I don't like to be called a bananarepublic by someone who lives in a land where people take a shit in the subway... And if you want this kind of transportation between two of your "megalopolises", build the damn thing yourself! Nobody is stopping you from doing so.
Pro Swissmetro popularizes this project in the general public and supports its realization. More information about the project and Pro Swissmetro is available at swissmetroDOTch
I bet they're not gonna build the thing... and that in 50 years the only place where you will find it will be in "far-fetched inventions from yesterday's future"
Yes, I agree that this seems to be a case of using high tech to achieve middle tech goals. If the TGV can already go faster, then why build an "almost-vac" train to go slower? Now, make it a hard vacuum and go 1000 KmPH, and we're talking.
My hope is that this is just to prove that the tech works, with it left open to go faster once the proof is there.
A TGV normaly goes only 320 km/h and not 500 km/h. You're talking of a record, which is made on a special track. Swissmetro would go 500 km/h with passengers.
a TGV travelling at 500 kph requires 7 (SEVEN) times more electricity than a TGV travelling at 300 kph - precisely because of wind resistance. this is why the japanese and the french are STRUGGLING with 360kph
this would allow 500 kph with LESS electricity than a TGV at 300 kph
plus its a smaller radius then regular rail and only 1 tunnel at the beginning, making it much cheaper in terrains like Japan, where they are putting 60 % (!!) of the shinkansen in wide/double tunnels
Oh I get that. It just seems that you could run it a lot faster, if you're going to all that trouble to build it.
Then again, I live in a country where there is talk of building "high speed rail" that will barely reach 225 KmPH. If that's the best we think we can do, we shouldn't even bother.
Like this project of future transportation. The train can go faster than Concord airplane and it can be just a set of coaches since no air is inside the tube. It can actually be a set of personal cabins traveling the same direction. From Moscow to Zurich in an hour - how about that!?
Not really, in fact the French TGV just beat the speed that this train says it will travel at. In fact, open air maglev trains have beat this by 81 kph. And 500 kph is only a small fraction of the Concorde's speed of 2,474 kph ( or 1,537 mph).
In fact 500 kph is only 310 mph, which aside from regional air planes, is about 200 mph slower than an airplane.
This is only partially evacuated, the fully evacuated tunnels can run ENORMOUS speeds. I guess it can operate in three different modes: open air, partial evacuation and deep vacuum for trans-continental routes. Look at Vactrain article in WikiPedia. "Halfbakery: Vacuum Train" typed in Google will bring you even more info.
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Dentatus1990 8 months ago 6
@Dentatus1990 losert
Thesupermachine2000 8 months ago
I´m not sure If a vacuum train would be worth its price at such small distances like inside switzerland or from city to city inside europe.
But I hope that in ~100 years there will be a vactrain network straight around the world with the trains reaching a speed up to several thousands of kph. Being faster and cheaper than ships and planes. Also at this time in the future there will be a high enough population in the world to support something like this better.
Cgeta4 11 months ago
Oh please... Oh please...Oh please come true!
pelicane136 1 year ago 2
Unfortunately this projects been cancelled but it has been taken up by China read this fascinating article on the future of vacuum trains: ceasefiremagazine. co . uk/2010/09/science-china-train/
AlJalandhari 1 year ago
Ein wichtiger schritt vorallem die Länder miteinander zu verbinden so hätte man nciht mer das problehm von lokomotiv wechserl oder sonstigem. also nur ein vortiel zudem würde es wirtschaft udn tourismus antreiben
menschenkraft 2 years ago
soooo gaiil!!!!! :D
MusicBeautyFun4Evah 2 years ago
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Build this train from one megalopolis to another megalopolis, not in a banarepublic with zero population.
aargh5 2 years ago
omg...
urbanjunior 2 years ago
Somehow I don't like to be called a bananarepublic by someone who lives in a land where people take a shit in the subway... And if you want this kind of transportation between two of your "megalopolises", build the damn thing yourself! Nobody is stopping you from doing so.
poisalat 2 years ago
What are you talking about? People dont take a shit in the subway in my country.
aargh5 2 years ago
i hate this comment...vive la suise
charlou1231 2 years ago
Says the man with a watch at the arm... xD
Legue 2 years ago
Pro Swissmetro popularizes this project in the general public and supports its realization. More information about the project and Pro Swissmetro is available at swissmetroDOTch
fastforward72 3 years ago
I bet they're not gonna build the thing... and that in 50 years the only place where you will find it will be in "far-fetched inventions from yesterday's future"
panzerfaust777 4 years ago
Yes, I agree that this seems to be a case of using high tech to achieve middle tech goals. If the TGV can already go faster, then why build an "almost-vac" train to go slower? Now, make it a hard vacuum and go 1000 KmPH, and we're talking.
My hope is that this is just to prove that the tech works, with it left open to go faster once the proof is there.
SailorBarsoom 4 years ago
A TGV normaly goes only 320 km/h and not 500 km/h. You're talking of a record, which is made on a special track. Swissmetro would go 500 km/h with passengers.
bobyswiss 4 years ago 5
a TGV travelling at 500 kph requires 7 (SEVEN) times more electricity than a TGV travelling at 300 kph - precisely because of wind resistance. this is why the japanese and the french are STRUGGLING with 360kph
this would allow 500 kph with LESS electricity than a TGV at 300 kph
plus its a smaller radius then regular rail and only 1 tunnel at the beginning, making it much cheaper in terrains like Japan, where they are putting 60 % (!!) of the shinkansen in wide/double tunnels
siogyumolcs 3 years ago
OK thanks, that clears things up a bit.
SailorBarsoom 3 years ago
@SailorBarsoom
low pressure = low energy demands
hobbiz 1 year ago
@hobbiz
Oh I get that. It just seems that you could run it a lot faster, if you're going to all that trouble to build it.
Then again, I live in a country where there is talk of building "high speed rail" that will barely reach 225 KmPH. If that's the best we think we can do, we shouldn't even bother.
SailorBarsoom 1 year ago
@SailorBarsoom
progress through small steps :P
i live in one of the worlds "rickest" countries, but here we are lucky if the trains reach 100 km/h...
hobbiz 1 year ago
Like this project of future transportation. The train can go faster than Concord airplane and it can be just a set of coaches since no air is inside the tube. It can actually be a set of personal cabins traveling the same direction. From Moscow to Zurich in an hour - how about that!?
achurban 4 years ago
Yes this would be nice! The idea is actually that this metro is faster than flying, especially for short distance flights.
chiesi79 4 years ago
@chiesi79 wont it just suck passengers in if the tunnel is vacuumed and the doors open?
DIMATIF 1 year ago
@chiesi79 I heard the Swissmetro project has become a pie in the sky because of lack of support. Is this true?
ManjuSu 1 year ago
Not really, in fact the French TGV just beat the speed that this train says it will travel at. In fact, open air maglev trains have beat this by 81 kph. And 500 kph is only a small fraction of the Concorde's speed of 2,474 kph ( or 1,537 mph).
In fact 500 kph is only 310 mph, which aside from regional air planes, is about 200 mph slower than an airplane.
originalpckelly 4 years ago
This is only partially evacuated, the fully evacuated tunnels can run ENORMOUS speeds. I guess it can operate in three different modes: open air, partial evacuation and deep vacuum for trans-continental routes. Look at Vactrain article in WikiPedia. "Halfbakery: Vacuum Train" typed in Google will bring you even more info.
achurban 4 years ago
A crazy prject,this could have been an invention of Jules Verne....
This project would cost more than the A380 (this big project suffers yet of his costs), i think that no couny in the world would build such a network.
And the point that the tube must be under vacuum seems tome too difficult to do...
The future will show if this project has its place in the world ...
mast2001 4 years ago
un projet qui promet...lol ça en est où en faite ?
VorteXV 4 years ago