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  • I smell government pawns trying to discredit this video with their bullshit. May you burn in hell

  • I did not like this one.

  • Also check out Tesla Nicola Tesla..Free energy

  • @sandynford1 its not free its wireless electrity for the haarp still requires power

  • Resource base economy...Jacque Fresco's Venus Project,,check it out google venus project

  • @chaosstarr Well that is a VERY good question. The best answer I can think to give you is that instead of waiting for ANYONE with two ears or even the hearing impaired for that matter to listen I would rather become an Active citizen by refusing to "Ride The Bus" so to speak in order to set the tone as well as an example for those in fear of change or too affraid to speak up for themselves. We are all adults. Only the CHILDREN should be listening. Adults spend too much time listening as it is.

  • wow for some reason this made me realize planet of the apes is an allegory of the us govt. question everybody, including these so called truth seekers even they have plans of their own....

  • Approach d violence subject through d gene point of view only, is wrong. There's a lot more 2 it. Of course that incarcerated people don't have more gene determination 2 violence thn people who don't commit crimes. Despite d fact that our brain is very developed it still has d very active remains of d primitive brains that u can find on crocs for example. It's here 2 stay cause we can't live without primitive emotions like fear or... greed, unfortunately. They where/are essential 2 survival.

  • なんか死にたくなる絶望的な動画でした。

  • listen to his idiot below me we all live in a perfect world our world isnt that bad he or she probably believes what he's told on the new's channel's which convey lies for his and mine corrupt government some people are so easy to manipulate lol give me fookin strength

  • wake up none of our goverments are perfect but at least for most of the western world we as the people get the choice to choose who runs our governments through elections and we do have some say into what laws are passed etc along with what we get to spend our hard earned money on even if we are so called slaves to the over privlilaged and sometimes especially in the past insestial 1%. Peter Joseph and his venus project is the exact same as a one world government where we all live in a utopia!

  • @MrJbizness asleep i see! what freedom? you think your vote counts huh? hmmm...

  • @MrJbizness nwo troll! your channel is fake like you

  • Amazing!

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  • This concept is just trading one form of mind control for another. These people are power mongers. They want you to enslave yourself to them in the name of the environment. The say "wake up" but they don't tell you to wake up. They don't care about you and me. If they did they would tell us to take back our education from the central government or keep you kids away from public school. They don't, because they want you and your children to be just as dumb as the current elites want us to be.

  • @AlchemApps Yuo are already enslaved, go deeper and see how the government profits from war, poverty, destruction, crime, greed, suffering and death, are all profit related. The corruption spreads like a wildfire, because children are born and ADAPT to a corrupt system, where do you see improvement? No where, cause there is no, this only leads to total collapse and mass destruction! This system is doomed to fail, and WE are only leading our selves to death by supporting it! 

  • @AlchemApps Very few that come out rich and raise their hands screaming ''I MADE IT'' some time after, they declair bankruptcy and government retakes all of their posession, i've seen that happend to members of MY family and MANY others. Totally ruining their lives. Let's not talk about profit banking systems make from Wars, That's a number that would make your head spin. We DO NOT need money system, it is the very foundation of corruption!

  • @AlchemApps our public education has always been flawed and teach nothing taking it back or not wont work we have to trash and reconstruct everything \..

  • Stop buying things you don,t need, You only need food.

  • RONPAULRONPAULRONPAUL, you're like the girl who changes her shoes every week because she sees Tom Cruises daughter in a new pair of stiletto heels. You know its over when planned obsolescence applies to world leaders as well as mp3 players.

  • Hey, Atlantis

  • why do people refuse to beleive bilderberg is in charge? why do i get called a tin foil hat? are they so dumb?

  • @dystopia47 Yes they are

  • This slavery for your own good. Just another form of slavery. No Thanks.

  • @AlchemApps

    Nonsense. No one would stop you from living off the land at your own behest, so long as you don't start fucking it all up, there's no issue. The issue is people are fucking it up for everybody and we want that shit stopped.

  • @Psychentist This is neurotic, essentially just as evil as the power structure you want to replace. Instead of demanding a revolution, we should demand that the current elites give back our education system. We need to take it back from Washington. We need to teach people how to wake up. There is no reason for us to rank below third world countries in education. When we can think logically and are practitioners of Rhetoric we will be able to see for ourselves what the truth is.

  • no more democrats! no more republicans!

  • Scientist payed more then a hedge fund manager, hell no never.

  • AHHH, that infernal ringing noise!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The opening section on addiction was very interesting.

  • Ron Paul, Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!

  • @TheFightaz he doesn't said that he want apply an "biblical" economy?. ne danke...

  • The idea that "Nature is a dictatorship" which TZM proposed is exactly why this concept has never been produced in reality. The role which fear plays into civilization is exactly why people have commented on this being the NWO in a pretty package. In reality this would be a New World Order regardless of who is part of it. Question is are you willing to give up the illusion of control to have peace in the world or do you just want a piece of the world?

  • Stupid americans... can only talk.. but not do a thing...

    FUCK USA.. up their stupid asses.. for fucking our planet.

  • "Believe in yourself before you believe in anyone else." D.Jarmon (2012)

  • i agree with JayKavann.

  • This goes to show how primitive most people truly are. Instead of debating like elderly politicians or a group of ten year old children, you would think that after watching this video viewers would be able to contribute innovative ideas as to how we can help change a system that is destroying everything except for profit gain! I vote for a shutdown of governments and a new active approach by every human being on the planet. Less war and more social, technological and environmental innovation! 1

  • @Jaykavann well who is gonna listen to you or me

  • I don't have time to watch this now, but can someone tell me if this criticizes President Barrack Obama at all?

  • @ColdHeartedMan1979

    Sorry. No time for you right now.

  • @PoliceViolence LOL! Nice one. I'll give you that. ;-)

  • @ColdHeartedMan1979

    Well yes. Good joke opportunity there.

    But in fact this movie goes a little further as if to vote republican or democrat.

    It suggests the election doesn't matter very much. Like, you know, the wall street candidate promises "change" and then nothing changes.

    Ron Paul has some fundamental ideas. But he will not be in the final election ot get a bullet in the face.

  • The monetary system is the first thing to go, it's a slavery system!

  • @MrNavskhan i assume when he says TZM he means The Zeitgeist Movement

  • Yes. People need a good dose of Reality. Learn some Advaita, Nisargadatta is a good start. But I think this one is really slow getting started. There will always be psychopathic-sociopathic money freaks at the top however. Zeitgeist is losing it's edge getting too philosophical though. There are real concrete things that need to be done now before the bankers steal everyone's property.

  • @einrib4truth what the hell is TZM?

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  • PLEASE! “Wake-UP!” and understand the TZM has been totally created to subconsciously prepare millions to think they are breaking away from a destructive “Prison System!” but it is in fact; subliminally preparing YOU for their “New World Order!” PJ “NEVER” mentions WHO the Lying Deceiving Hidden Parasites are who are in TOTAL Control of OUR Media/Governments/Banking/Food­/Fashion/Advertising etc etc etc “WHY?” because if He DID! We would ALL KNOW WHO is behind this WORLD-WIDE MASS DECEPTION!

  • its easy to say the world needs to change, you ARE the change. Start by boycotting the major coorporations who run this shitty world as it is. Dont buy from the multi-national chain stores, dont buy from the corrupt, polluting, money grabbing shisters that thank you by dumping your rivers and wiping out rainforests and employing slave trade, keeping poor people poor. otherwise you are the problem. You have so much more power than you think just by choosing who you give your money to.

  • Ron Paul - enough said

    Sorry i just had to say it :P

  • We could all work together for the good of this world. We could all be self-suffecient and trade goods with other goods we don't have. Let us just embrace education and bring down the monetary system. Let us love our children so they can learn to love. Let's protect our planet in harmony and let us all be equal!

  • PEOPLE....JUST DONT VOTE...ENOUGH TALKING ABOUT RON PAUL N THAT SHIT HES JUST ANOTHER PUPPET THATS WHAT YOU DONT GET NO MATTER WHAT CANDIDATE IS YOUR FAVOURITE FOR WHAT HE SAYS HES GONNA DO HES STILL BUT A PUPPET...YOU WANT CHANGE...NOONE VOTE 2012 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS

  • @TAKNGSavchanel

    well, Ron Paul is certainly not a puppet, its easy to tell if you look at the Main Stream Media, when he was running for President 4 years ago, Bilderberg discussed to kill Ron Paul, they will do everything it takes to make sure Ron Paul is not the next President, because this means they will all go to prison!

  • @kylis22

    Ron Paul supports a Gold Standard, he is their ultimate puppet. Give the people unbridled civil liberty yet ensure they are slaves through monetary control. There's no doubt he's our greatest hope to get our country back to it's constitutional roots, but his monetary policy is vile and will work behind the scenes to keep the elite at the top. We have to realize his faults and not lamb over his strengths with blind faith.

  • Dr. Ron Paul's kung-fu is strong.

  • @WeThePeopleVStheNWO : Ron Paul is a fraud who is good at marketing himself. Why won't he run as an independent in 2012? Because he's just joking, thats why- and doesn't want to ruin his son's position in the GOP.

  • @synch1216 - Ron Paul knows from personal experience when he ran for president on the Libertarian ticket in 88 that the system is pretty much closed to third parties. And we know based on how much msm ignores him running as a republicrat now what they would do if he ran third party. He hasn't ruled it out though.

  • I'm RACIST for criticizing Obama.

    TERRORIST because I'm not with Bush.

    ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothechild Zionism.

    TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.

    TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.

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  • dat really makes me walking proof. GOD PPL REALLY NEED TO CHANGE!!!!!

  • dont even matter, i'ma do my good n those who don't well shit das jus sad. jus cant understand how ppl can b so heartless. looking back my parents actually gave me all da luv dey cud n never hit me. watching dis das prolly y

  • @707salvatrucha go to grammer school

  • 2 orange11emilie dats fuked cuz for da good i would definately volunteer for anything, u jus a selfish fool dats got like dat cuz of da system. i in da other hand am getting all da education i can get, i started out as looking into a business major. den i took economy and saw how everything worked didn't like wat i discovered now i'm "exploring" everything i cud. natural medicine, environment friendly energy, natural science, technology. jus look at how ppl liv in africa man. i'd do anything!

  • Painting capitalism as isolationist profiteering that drives each of us further and further apart! Since when is it out of "greed" that I buy a cup of coffee? Or a shirt? Or a loaf of bread? This is sensationalist fear-mongering that's designed to scare you & create cognitive dissonance. What's the solution? Against a free market society, it is invariably a consolidation of power - we fascism on the right & communism on the left. What's your preferred flavor? I'd prefer liberty.

  • @orange11emilie you arent expressing greed and isolationism by buying a shirt or a cup of coffee... if anything you are expressing apathy. But who made the shirt? Who's invisible hand harvested your coffee and what did they get out of it? did they get the same compensation that you get for your job? The concept of a resource based economy isn't communism or fascism. It's totally different because it's not based on dividing power and controll. It's based on making resources available to everyone.

  • This is creepy.

  • One world government mechanized and run by volunteers? Seriously?

  • after reading some of these comments, it is sad to see how wrong some people have it.

  • after living this life of mine in this system that we seem to inherit for the past forty years,, i would gladly try a new aproach,, i dont know why people slag the venus project off, i would gladly try it out, i couldnt be any worse off and i would be pleased to see my children have some vision of hope at least,,.. so whats stopping an experiment, volunteers for a new way of life to build one of these cities and see if it works,,.... it wouldnt be money by any chance would it ??

  • Who gives a fuck about venus I prefer communism!!!!Hail lenin hail Stalin,though really nice documentary series I must admit.

  • After all of that brilliant work done to simplify and make transparent the inherently corrupt systems of government we live by, the venus project and the suggestions for society at the end were absolutely devoid of any meaningful intelligent thought whatsoever. Discussing what 'shape' to build cities? Asking people to fill in surveys so we know what products to create? Get a grip of yourself guys and use some of that logic you love talking about

  • @thorpey18 Your comment has got me wondering if you would agree that if we were to collect right now, all the suggestions about what society would or should look like after we transcend the oppressive way of life we have currently, and compare those ideas to the ones we come up with AFTER we get free of this corprotocracy....that the ideas we formulate now, are gonna make all the suggestions we make later for future society be shortsighted, obsolete or maybe even irrelevant. Agree?

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  • 2:12:23 For a second there, I thought that a redneck version of Mystery Science Theater 3000 had started.

  • @Gigrantula58 Don't you know, you should never judge a person by the color of their neck.

  • @mwmethos I apologize. Maybe I should be alittle more PC, how's "rural" sound?

  • never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.

    -Margaret Mead

    this people, is what gives us hope!

  • We must become the united global 99% ASAP..... AhzekAhriman1

  • they created religion as a way of control thats why every member of the crusade fought a rare few (high in command) knew what it was really for the rest were just soldiers following orders believeing that what they were fighting for was right. have you not seen that today only now they fight for a promised freedom they will never get.

  • @HowieMusicLtd no, they created religion to give people some sort of hope; something to believe in; something to hold on to when all else is lost! truth be told it might be fictional, but your not understanding the core puropse of it! They dont give a damn about controlling people today, the corrupt systems that took over the once pure organizations have long since lost that power over people! there are millions of religions btw, so looking past the wrongs on one (christianity) is necessary!

  • @darthjefory im not picking on one religion ffs, have you not read my comments, and yes they did create christianity (sorry i meant christianity for that one not all religion) for control, have you seen rome? the core purpose of that religion is control the outer purpose is hope.

  • @HowieMusicLtd Christianity wasn't created by Rome. Catholicism was. Back then very few people were even allowed to read the Bible or have a working translation. So the foundations of European Christianity even after the Renaissance were built on lies. This is why there are so many denominations. I doubt what we often refer to as Christianity today would be viewed in the same light if the masses actually were allowed access during it's infancy and this is something rarely addressed.

  • ZG was great pity he headed straight for the "Hippy commune" ..doesnt work princess !

  • I think if we all lived for a lot longer, say 250 years, there would be a stronger instinct towards sustainability, longer term solutions etc. But life, being short amplifies the individuals need to ensure her optimises his or her own security in life and hence, we take what we can get while we're here. A typical workign life of 40years, which is required to sustain an adult life of maybe 60 years of more is a short time.

  • George Orwell only had the date wrong....

    If you haven't watched "Logan's Run", do so.

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    Read the 304 comments before this one. Be very afraid of the posters....

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  • Buy war bonds kids

  • i officially hate my fucking government i will not believe a thing they tell me from this point on fuck america also a bunch of power hungry money hungry warlords

  • @clovenrick your a crock of shit continue to believe in your power and money hungry warlords you call your government who do nothing but lie and rob there people look at iraq george bush ordered over 5000 people to be killed in iraq over what? OIL fuck america

  • We can not go from our current paradigm to a resourced based economy, unless humanity collectively makes that decision. Without genuine democracy, that essential collective decision is quite impossible. We must start real democracy (like MajorityVoice) to enable computers to make our decisions for Us.

  • Exactly. It's not something that can just be switched on. People need to understand the gravity of the situation. Saying for example "oh the government is putting a carbon tax in place to combat global warming and make a more sustainable environment" is still part of the monetary/debt based system, it's a tax, it's the same shit the government pulls on it's people.

  • A resource based economy would say screw the tax we have the tech to make zero emission cars (which we do) lets implement this within 20 years. That is making a change. But the average citizen is too stupid or ill informed to get that. Yet at the same time they will tell you the world sux, yet can't be bothered making or even entertaining a radical change.

  • @AhzekAhriman1 Well... when all fails... The Holy Bible! Jesus will save us! LOL

  • All debts owed to banks, whether personal or national, are fraud. Yes, our national debts are fraud. Every time a national bank created a billion dollars from thin air to "lend" to its government, the bank's owners became a billion dollars richer on paper, for nothing.

    &, when we sign banks' promissory notes, our signatures create the funds for those "loans" from the unlimited credit of our personal IMF accouts. Banks then hand us our own money and charge 3 X face for book keeping entries.

  • That "small group of men" referred to in the Margaret Mead quote refers to the Illuminati.

  • hemp is the crop 2 grow.

  • How does population control fit into this model? Also how does this differ from any other dictatorship? There will be a council at the top trying to decide for all what is needed and good.

  • Now Newt wants to reform child labor laws lol ha ha.

  • Pretty cool, I keep telling people who think Newt Gingerich is some great crusader against the protesters. Thats nonsense. we have Newt Gingerich to thank for the protesters. He created them through policys on so called welfare reform. None of the people would be protesting if we still had welfare. They would be home living subsistant lives. So everytime a moron says to me Newt let them protesters have it I just laugh lol. Either Newt is an idiot or a genius for the Venus Project?Latter:)

  • There are major problems in this formula so far. Its way to advanced. I can see the possibilitys for the visions. Citys just don't form like this first we would have to completely demolish existing structures. Second theres no grid pattern here. Believe me to deliver goods effiecently in the real world now being a trucker? Grid is better then circle. The two million for making the driverless car race? Never been done yet. Much isn't practical here yet. We need right now solutions.

  • Only in a non monatary world does science work that way. Science is manipulated by the almighty dollar too. Many ciggerette companys rigged science for years. Hell the brontasaurus which never had the right head on it was for years after the discovery was covered up for reputations and money.

  • We can battle it out about the religious aspects after we get rid of the monetary system agreed? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So lets take care of this the founding fathers of this country had it out afterwards but right now we need to be of one mind. I don't see why we need to relgate religion or superstition? Walking under latters isn't done because crap falls on your head all to often. So superstition hold some value in my mind.

  • I am going to take you clips edit out all the crap about religion. I'm going to present it as an alternative to your no religion crap. Your going to create terrorist with that attitude and alienate half the country to want to fight the whole movement. Jesus would support this resource system over the monetary system. He practically started the whole idea but you want to take Him out of it? Religion causes wars not just money huh? Like I said I never seen a Holy war where money wasn't its BS

  • You know , what is killing this movement from getting off the ground? Its seemed hate of religion. I'm sorry but I haven't seen a Holy War yet that didn't involve money. I'm taking you ideas and revising them one where religions are tolerated and the monetary system is gone. I just don't understand why you mix these two things together. What its not hard enough just to get rid of the monetary system? You want to take on religion while your at it. Your doomed if you try that.

  • @DionAFields they dont hate religion they are just making a point the fact that the books for religion have probably been re written a thousands times changing the meaniing, also what were you talking about with the wars and money thing again just to clarify i didnt quite understand what you said there

  • @HowieMusicLtd Maybe hate is to strong a word? Believe me these books don't just get rewritten. Its like going through congress to get the constitution rewritten whatever changes is well thought out and planned by more then one person. All I know is there stance on religion and private property won't work politically and thats why I have to blaze my own trail. I wanted to go with these people but the religion wasn't nescessary in my view. Religion doesn't cause wars greed does

  • @DionAFields many more people have died because of battles for "religion" than anything else

  • @HowieMusicLtd How many of these battles involved land and money? Yeah thats what I thought believe me people rarely go to war over words alone. That religion causes wars is bullshit. Religion is used by greedy men to justify killing people for their greed.

  • @HowieMusicLtd The trinity has been a very been an issue between Christians for a long time very contenious. No one has ever fought a war of the trinity. Even the crusades so called Holy war. Was about taking land and money as the Templers became very rich indeed from them. Na people don't fight wars of religion they just disagree they fight wars over resources.

  • I'm at an hour and half. I can't get enough of these films. The secret society people have been my hate for a long time. I can see now though the biggest fight maybe with them to stop this but truely the system is far more evil then I ever dreamed. I used to say God infinate resources and the devil was 0 resources Now I truely know the devil is far worse he's less then 0 resources soul taking. How do you get less then 0? You give away your soul for eternity. Any energy you might have.

  • @DionAFields No one asks for you to watch these. No matter what you say there will always be people who believe or NOT believe in what YOU believe. That is a fact of life. You go and support the videos that support your ideas not hate on others. Let other live out their so called sin because in the end what others do will not be about others but yourself. Just truth. Peace.

  • The commune was on the right track. We need land, we need to get off the grid. We need a source of income until money is history. A recycling plant M.E.R.F. that collects the methane maybe. Maybe we should take over a trash company or an organic farm, but whatever we need to find each other locally and get started.

  • fuck all of this i dont believe in my goverment anymore.......

  • I only got one qus? How do u convince billionaire who r used to the way things r to change to a whole knew ways..keeping in mind that, this new ways, aren't gonna make them rich...and also, how do u tell countries that their resources doesn't just belong to them, but everybody...?

  • this gave me ehnouge information and cleareance of how the world realy is. It gave me even more inspiration to do World Ventures even more

    

  • the ppl behind most of the worlds problems i.e THE NEW WORLD ORDER ave the same ideas about utopian ways...but they believe to start again they first haveto reduce vast amounts of ppl hich is obviously wrong and they believe they can orchestrate it under their control which is what we must not allow...we need to take back our lives but first we need to wake up the sleeping populas...i just hope we can do it in time.peace to all

  • Gradually africans will stop growing non food stuffs for profit and go back to surviving, condoms will be free to them if they have HIV, we owe them that for all the misinformation over the years (You know who you are). They will stop fighting each other too. There is no other alternative, but be assured, through accepting trial and error stratergies will mean corruption will fade away.

  • But I also know that is not what these ppl are asking, living with each other can be the best medicine, and they need our numbers right now. But what happens after the uprising, well, we live with each other in poverty for a while, but while we do that we show them we how much we can tolerate from each other and they (1%) come out of their ivory towers. We all die of old age but have no need to procreate, and being a homo (homo erectus), is acceptable and graadually get that chilled out feel

  • @TallPoe 99% of cookies are consumed by people, 1% is eaten by monsters.

    OCCUPY SESAME ST.

  • I have been waiting for this all of my life. And the bigger picture is more important than me, but i'm not going to just take the death pill yet, not until I start to see true change. We do not have any other choice for anything other than this change with what our history has shown us. The moment I am satisfied is the moment I recycle myself, because it is worth dying for and I don't have a masters degree in physics and am no longer required as bots can do everything... :(

  • Let them throw a wobbly first!

  • Claim squatters rights!

  • 'Syriana' motion picture staring Matt Damon as Bryan Woodman

  • You can chose to boycott, but there will be things you cannot live without, and the laws will stop you from gaining them, simply food, and paying the rent. The only way to move these idea's into being are through an Exidus type of move. If you could persuade building and food growing organisations to build on this idea. Violence is not an option. Violence will lead you straight into a trap that has been built over decades, namely missile capabilities like the Star Wars Project, refer to:

  • As for an entity that watches over us. I know we have been here before, that we linger after death, but the slate is wiped clean and all that happens is that our energies are recycled. And that entity has little control over our hearts and minds and it definately would not like to see the world in the state it is in now, and would understand we need to use logic a lot more, but in a compassionate way. If there is an entity, it died once or twice, and lives through us and needs our 2 hands.

  • I am ready to share all that I have learned, no trade secrets shall be kept as to most like me, the big picture is the most important. And I probably will not be around in my mortal coil to see the final result, but it does not matter. I do not that it will not be easy at first, but Rome was not built in a day was it ;)

  • Also happier enviroments create less need to feel insecure and thus procreate as much. 7 billion is as much to be celebrated as it is also to be feared, it should make us feel that our species is totally safe, bar the so called terrorists and the war machine which is just a load of chaff when you boil it all down.

  • The production of food and building rescources is so successful these days that few could create enough to sustain masses.

  • I used to work in the tehnological industry creating circuit boards or PCB's, you can totally recycle every component on a board, it is just a matter of time and money. So if you grew rescources such as food and housing, and took away the system of annual gross profit growth, this would be possible on an unpresidented level if you recieved food and housing tokens to recycle discarded iphones and ipads which are not upgradable like the old desk top computers. It would all eventually even out.

  • Where did they get that opening speech from? The penguin book of corporate philosophy?

  • @MrVordas I am not advocating it for a selfish reason... It's meant for this whole entire world. Either we, as a race, take control of it, or let the rich pricks do whatever they want. And they will definitely take your passivity as a "go."

  • @MrVordas Dude, you have no clue how a resource based economy works if you think we need population reduction. Please, watch the Zeitgeist orientation video on YouTube, hopefully this gives you an idea of the possibilities, or watch Zeitgeist moving forward. This also gives a little detail. Total failure on your part as the viewer to understand the purpose of The Zeitgeist Movement and it's overall abilities.

  • @MrVordas We could begin spending more ressources on food and less on war, that would be a great start! =)

  • @MrVordas They obviously will not remain the same because everything is in loss besides the arms and health industry. Yes,we need to stop the industry, the way they work as of now isn't working, and I hope I don't have to explain why. Why would it be a disaster? Watch "Zeitgeist - Moving Forward." You don't know the technological advances science has made in the way food is produced. Watch that movie and you'll be amazed.

  • @MrVordas We can do this now, quite simply, just people not wasting food and eating only as much as they NEED and sharing the rest. We could easily save the billion people starving.

  • There's one point which I would like to draw upon... Which I have a personal knowledge of. Linux vs. Windows vs. MacOS.

    Windows release newer and newer versions of their product.

    MacOS does the same.

    Linux is free, but does not release newer and newer versions of the core product. Instead, it is updated to accommodate the demand. This process does not waste the time spent having to build the core from a continuously refined "scratch".

    A free product is ultimately a better product.

  • one idea they never touch on... which i believe is the most important of all, is population control. we cannot simply multiply exponentially on this planet forever. the more people here, the less resources to go around. double the population of every country in the world overnight, and see how miserable our lives will be tomorrow. we should work to lower the population of earth by 20% in the next 50 years.

  • @tubestick00 in most devolped countries the growth is small, or declining, i think if this system were put into use we would see the population ease of, more people would have use of contraception and less desire to have loads of kids, or maybe im wrong. But population control? you are going along the lines of eugenics here and thats a definate no no. We cant kill of people or make people sterile, thats inhumane, no one has the right to control how we live or cull the population

  • @jamesykt69 geez mate, i never said anyting about making people sterile, or killing people off. come on. eugenics? thats 70 year old science. your really puttingwords in my mouth throughout your entire comment there.

    the population is growing in all countries. bar china maybe as they have implimented strict social policies in this area. you say its declining in some developed countries? really? what ones. perhaps the rate of growth fluctuates, but there is constant unsustainable growth

  • @tubestick00 you basically outline the way we should control the population, so explain how we can do that without killing people or making them sterile?

  • @tubestick00 If we were free of all chains and bonds, we would start to learn how to populate other worlds. We already have the technology to get us to Mars. If we figure out how to terraform planets... Overpopulation of Earth is a solved problem.

  • @VerifyVolatile perhaps its possible, but dont you think its prudent planning to behave as if that is not poossible untill we have succesfully achieved it? in practice, colonising other planets would be problematic, and no second planet is tailor made for us like earth. we have evolved perfectly in this environment. any foreign planet would not be ideal.

  • @tubestick00 It's never prudent to act as if something is impossible. Rather act as if it was possible, but currently unachievable... That way, you will still work towards solving the problem, rather than giving up on it.

    You may be right, but that's where terraforming comes in. Besides, they found a planet just like Earth "only" 10 light years away from us. So we can "still go there" while we attempt to solve the problem of making Mars, Saturn og Jupiter habitable.

  • @VerifyVolatile if you think saturn or jupiter would ever be even remotely suitable for us to visit, let alone live on, you are crazy. and yes i am saying that without a doubt it IS prudent to plan for the worst. it always is, and in the context of this discussion, the "worst" is the scenario where we are unable to ever populate anything but this planet. which basically is reality. its not possible for us to travel lightyears away, and terraforming mars is borderline science-fiction fantasy.

  • @VerifyVolatile Continuing the use of money is insanity. As the movie implies. Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again, knowing it does not work.

    Considering Gliese 581 c:

    We aren't getting there and if this monetary system continues, most people will be dead or can't afford it. That's a dream, we need to forget as of now.

  • good film

  • @MrNigelhampton truce asshole?lol

  • this movie is shit!

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  • @MrNigelhampton well between my wit and yourshit talking there is endless knowledge and shit

  • @MrNigelhampton o your so AWSOME you can type words. Who needs action huh?

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