I appreciate you uploading this. I have been looking for more information on the ropen, as I plan to add more to our dinosaur seminars.
I have spoken with Dr. Carl Baugh in person, and he also gave me his account of when they saw the ropen in Papua New Guinea. He said they will "glow" at night because of the bioluminescent creatures that live on their skin. They were unable to get video, unfortunately, but if anyone wants to try, Baugh would be the guy to talk to learn how to get started.
I Live in Los Angeles born and raised I saw one of those at night i was a personal assistant to a family and picked up the 14 yr old kid from a birthday party and we both saw this,5 seconds later we both turned to each other and we'r like did ya that and he started freakin out!....we both described it it wasn't black it was brown almost like a bat wing ours was huge and with one swoop cleared over the mountain top.
I live in Massachusetts and I saw one over the fairgrounds being attacked by a murder of crows at least 12 strong, it was the size of my minivan or larger. I know i sound full of it but that's what i saw, it was flying very low 50 or 60 ft at most
believe some species of pterosaurs are still alive like Pteranodon. The usually ate fish and probably ate dinosaurs on occasion. If dinosaur died out, they ate ish, insects, mammals and other birds. So i think they could be out there in un-explorded areas of Earth.
An uncle of mine says he and most of the people in town(they live in the province) saw like a bird with an dinosaur head an a bat like body, the elderly people in town says it comes out when there is a bad weather of some sort cause at that time it was raining pretty strong and no other birds can be seen flying in the sky, and from the facts of the elderly they mostly fly in two's . dont know if it was real though
An uncle of mine says he and most of the people in town(they live in the province) saw like a bird with an dinosaur head an a bat like body, the elderly people in town says it comes out when there is a bad weather of some sort cause at that time it was raining pretty strong and no other birds can be seen flying in the sky, and from the facts of the elderly they mostly fly in two's . dont know if it was real though
The speed of light has apparently changed which causes carbon dating to be incorrect. You can find videos about it on Youtube here which is where I first heard this. Their dating methods are all wrong.
I can tell when a man is lying and this man is not lying. I believe he seen something that day now what it is will forever be a mystery but I would not doubt it if it was a Pterodactyl.
@1MrCobblepot Well you should, because pterdactyls lived 10's of millions of years ago, in that time, don't you think it would have evolved into something else??? Get a clue, Dinosaurs are GONE!
@Sjamsucks Coelacanth dont evolve in anything new after millions of years, and including all the changes the world has experimenting all this time still alives with the same form. There are some survivors from that era which still are not GONE
If a creature is not burried above a certain geologic layer, evolutionists assume the creature has been extinct since the layer was formed (usually assumed to be in the millions of years). The problem with this logic is the large number of exceptions to the rule. Just how many creatues do we need to find still alive before we throw out this flawed logic. Fossil cycad/sago palms stop at the KT boundry, & houseshoe crabs stop at the Permian, yet these creatures live today.
All are still the same basic kind of creature their ancestors were, showing no evolutionary change. Observational comparisons indicates stasis not evolution.
I believe it, that is awesome. I just wish people would stop putting fake clips of these great beasts that God created on youtube. there real and still ALIVE!
@1MrCobblepot Last night I saw a flying bus with bat wings and it was driven by a giant vampire with glowing eyes and all the passengers were werewolves with knights armour on. Thats a story about a flying thing, do you believe it too?
@1MrCobblepot Impossible do to evolution. Even if they did survive the mass extinction, they would have evolved into something new, and then that would have evolved into something new. See my point? Animals have to adapt, and well, having the same build for 65 million years would would not be sufficient for surviving extreme changes in temperature, or the changes in the chemistry of the atmosphere (the ratios of the gases in the air have changed substantially since the dinosaurs).
this guy is so believable, i doubted this at first, but he is not out to gain anything from thing from this and he seems like a very kind, honest , older man. i don't think he is lieing at all.
In May of 2008 I saw a pair of what I could identify as Pterosaurs, flying in a generally south-south-west direction over Oxnard, Ca. They were at about 800 feet altitude, in a straight glide, no wing beats. I estimate they had wing spans of 10 to 12 feet. The legs trailing out behind it made it clear it was not a bird, and it had a distinct shape to the head as well. I know what I saw.
this man is too old to lie and has faught in WWII in a place where even today, to this date, not so many people come in for a visit and so, the more reason to believe there might be something out there that has survived many natural disaster living in deep caves etc.
@ropenseeker but with modern chemical sciense, we can preserve the dead body indefinitely . If we let it live out its life.. It might go missing again and be eaten by mice, and insects.
I assure you, I NEVER just take another person's word for anything. I was a dino-nut in school. I've done research. While there are those who believe the smaller Pterodactyl could have possibly gotten aloft from the ground, the Pteranodon is widely believed to have been too big and heavy. (Far heavier than even the largest bat) It could glide for extended periods from high point to high point, but if it were to be caught on the ground, it was quite vulnerable.
I believe this gentleman did see a strange and possibly unknown winged creature. However, most paleontologists agree that pterosaurs could not take off from the ground.
@Gunstar1701 Most people do not consider every possibility. Even scientists. Bats hang upside down and take off that way. Also bats are known to be able to get off the ground using just their wings, albeit a bit difficult but quite doable. Pterosaurs could have done the same. Even if they had short legs and feet they could stand upright and take off that way. One should not discount possibilities just because someone else says it cannot be possible.
@JustUrFigmentation I assure you, I NEVER take anyone's word for anything. I was a dino-nut for a while in elementary school. I did quite a bit of reading. Although the smaller Pterodactyl is believed to have been capable of getting aloft from the ground, not so the Pteranodon. It was too big and heavy. (much larger than a bat) It could glide for extended periods from high point to high point. But if it were caught on the ground, it would have been quite vulnerable.
I have interviewed Hodgkinson several times since mid-2004. Yes, he is a very credible eyewitness. (But I was not the interviewer in this video; it was done by my associate, Garth Guessman, who is another living-pterosaur investigator. I edited his video footage and uploaded it onto Youtube.)
@ropenseeker pilots are not the best eyewitnesses,as most people believe.I believe he saw something,what ?I don't know.Remote as it is,I would suspect if he had seen a surviving pterosaur with a 30 foot wingspan,we would have found plenty of evidence by now.Having seen what Festo has done with flying mechanical bird,it sure would be fun and a challenge to build a flying pterosaur with 2011 mechanics.
It's plausible for some very few population of relict creatures to survive. In Central Asia place where I leave we have relict fish who scientists say are dinosaur fish. So it's quite possible, but it's not guarantied that this creatures are still exist today, taking into account the nature state today, all of this could be quite dead .
These things get sighted in Texas as well. My brother and I saw something one night that looked more like one than any bird, and far too big to have been a bat. Whatever it was, it was threatening, big time. Don't knock it; you could see something unknown one day.
I removed many comments about evolution; as I explained months ago, this is not a forum for that discussion. Suffice it to say that those who have traveled to Papua New Guinea (including myself) to search for living pterosaurs have been creationists (of one kind or another, at least). For details about how this relates to the General Theory of Evolution, use Google with: "pterosaur ropen evolution" -- The first 6-7 results of page one are what I recommend.
I forgot to mention the exceptions for explorers: Team members of Destination Truth and MonsterQuest were mostly non-creationists, with only about one creationist per expedition on each of those two expeditions.
@ropenseeker Hello I wanted to start off by saying that I am a creationist and also more importantly a Christian. I believe that there are dinosaurs still alive such as the Ropen. I have been searching all over the internet for someone to talk to more about this. I have several questions about the Ropen such as where would the best place be on Earth to find one? Also if you are ever planning on going on an expedition to find one, I am very much looking at a way to find living pterosaurs.
@dokha Hello and thank you for replying dokha. I would be very eager to learn this information if you would be so kind as to share it with me. Thank you. :)
@ropenseeker i first am an evolutionist, evolution would not discredit a living dinosaur as a survivor, I personally have seen a "thunderbird in ohio, that did not look like a buzzrd, and a couple other wierd critters, I personally think the ropen is a convergent creature
I've seen actually 2 of those dino-bird like pterodactyl-during daylight, look blue-grayish purple with a little red color. No fur, huge and has a head crest. i was thinking, "don't eat me"
if only i have money to do my own investigation on these kind of things.
A recent press releases mentions an estimate that 1400 Americans have seen obvious living pterosaurs in the United States within the past 30 years. Use a search engine with these words: 1400 eyewitnesses pterosaurs
make that 1401 because i once saw one of these creatures infact me and my friend saw it back in Primary School while we were playing on the oval It was Huge and the thing we noticed it had like a tail i remember about 5 of us rushed to the libary after that to search through the Dinosaur Books and try to compare what we saw.
I saw something strange like that i was with my mom we were takeing a trip to see some relatives in virgina and we stoped at a civll war baddelfled and i had my video camra and i looked to my frount and i saw this thing it was large and black and i codent tell wich was its head at first i that it was a black bear becase we wire in pa i zoomed in on it with my camra to get a beter look but i coen't make it out we went into the muzem that was thare and when we came back out it was gone!!!!!!!!!!!
There is a press release online that mentions three evidences that reports of living pterosaurs in the United States are not primarily from hoaxes. Use a search with:
"Pterodactyls are more likely living creatures than hoaxes"
A book was published just a few days ago. It is about apparent living pterosaurs that have been seen in the United States: "Live Pterosaurs in America."
Many sighting reports in the United States include BOTH a head crest and a long tail for the creature seen.
This involves a new way of looking at this subject: Eyewitness testimonies, cryptozoology, open-mindedness. (And it would not hurt to see the dot-com for "objectiveness")
Really? Are you sure about "Pterodactyls don't have head crests. At all."? I believe you refer to the long-tailed Rhamphorhynchoids.
Google on: rhamphorhynchoid "head crest"
The first entry I found was about the Rhamphorhynchoid with the name "Scaphognathus crassirostris"--a long-tailed
pterosaur with a head crest.
I've encountered many comments like this, that is, the apparent assumption that all there is to know about pterosaurs is what experts tell us from examining fossils.
I didn't mean to sound snobbish or close-minded, if that's how it came out. I apologize. Personally I believe in many cryptids, and have always been fascinated with the subject as far back as I can remember. To be honest, I have never come across anything pterodactyl related, so I was shocked when I heard about it. I knew about the Congo brontosaurus, but not this. Anyway, there are lots of witnesses with a lot of credible testimony, and I doubt everyone can be lying. Best of luck to your books.
I am grateful that you recognize the significance of many eyewitnesses who report the same thing. For sightings in Papua New Guinea, here is a partial listing of major sightings:
1) Duane Hodgkinson (This video)
2) Brian Hennessy (1971)
3) Lake Pung (7 boys, ~1994)
4) Perth, Australia, couple (1997)
All of the above involved a very large flying creature, either obviously without feathers or with no sign of feathers. All of them also involved a long tail.
hate to add to the testimonies but i was driving with my father and brothers and we all watch it fly over the car my dad was so amazed that he pulled over for us to watch it fly by
Normally I would dismiss creature sightings like this, because you don't hear much about them - but it's credible testimony like this that re-fuels my faith!
One reason that the public doesn't "hear much about" reports of apparent living pterosaurs is that people "dismiss creature sightings like this."
For years, I have interviewed eyewitnesses of apparent pterosaurs. Those eyewitnesses who are from Western countries are very hesitant to tell anybody about their experiences because they are so often rejected.
I am very grateful to the many who have told me about what they've seen. I'm now writing another book on this subject.
The second edition of my book "Searching for Ropens" examines the expeditions of the explorers who searched in Papua New Guinea from the late 20th Century into the 21st Century. It also examines eyewitness testimonies and compares them to each other.
My (Ropenseeker) real name is Jonathan Whitcomb. Guessman and I have been friends and fellow living-pterosaur investigators since 2004.
The two of us explored Umboi Island in 2004, interviewing many native who had seen the ropen. We are convinced that this animal is a Rhamphorhynchoid (long-tailed) pterosaur.
The most recent comments here have been about the June, 2009 broadcast of the MonsterQuest "Flying Monsters" episode. Guessman was featured.
Being a Christian Creationist does not automatically disqualify me from doing good research. I am in good company. There is a long list of Christian Creationists who founded and/or furthered the sciences: Boyle, Newton, Kepler, Pascal, DesCartes, Linnaeus, Faraday, Babbage, Morse, Rawlinson, Pasteur, Kelvin, Maxwell, Lister, Carver, etc. Each were outspoken about there Biblical convictions. Their research was based on their motives and understanding as Creationists, and I am no different.
I primarily network with Christian Nationals and Missionaries. They are the means by which we have received most of our intelligence about pterosaur activity from the field. They are also extremely helpful and hospitable: feeding, assisting, and even housing us. Few secular organizations exist that would work with us in this capacity.
I believe in Jesus. I am far from perfect, but He has profoundly changed me for the better. I want others to know Him as well. I am not ashamed of this, nor have I tried to hide it. I used to believe in Evolution, but after comparing it to Creation Science side by side, I became a Creationist.
Monster Quest came to Genesis Park and asked if we would lead an expedition. We accepted under the condition that our Creation World View would not be censored.
Unfortunately all vestiges of Christianity and Creation Science were left on the editing room floor. Our world view was censored to the point that I was made to look like a secular researcher. This was never my intent.
I have no problem at all with the Creationist viewpoint...but, I strongly believe that it, as well as the Evolutionary viewpoint, should be set aside when doing field research.
Such viewpoints may well be a persons motivations for participating in the research project, but they should be irrelevant to the outcome.
An Evolutionist's film will capture a pterosaur just as well as a Creationist's film.
I think I understand your point about the beliefs of the natives. Yes, they will tell us what they see, regardless of their beliefs.
Guessman and I were both on Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea, in 2004 (but on two separate expeditions). We have learned that Christian natives help us much more than those who are not Christians. We do not interview them differently but we do appreciate the significant help we received from those who made our expeditions successful.
It would be wonderful if more Westerners would explore remote areas and search for these elusive creatures. I would welcome help from those who believe differently than I do about origins.
The reality is that only creationists searched for ropens (or pterosaur-like creatures) in remote jungles in Papua New Guinea, from 1993 through late 2006 (maybe with one exception).
Those who discounted our beliefs often ridiculed us for those beliefs. Almost no non-creationist helped.
Evolutionists involved in the making of the MonsterQuest "Flying Monsters" episode blatantly censored any and all mentions Creation Science concepts, but they had no problem leaving in all mentions of Evolutionary concepts. Where is the balance? What are they afraid of? Let BOTH side express themselves. Why the onesidedness? It tells me they can not win in a fair debate. If they think they can win, then let us speak.
I think that Guessman and I would agree with you on that point: that the show was not about comparing philosophical concepts. But that is not the point.
Guessman agreed to take the MonsterQuest team to that very remote island on about eight conditions; that was in a contract that they signed. As I understand, none of those conditions were met to G.'s satisfaction (but about 2-3 were partially met).
The show made it seem like G & others believed differently than they did.
Two years ago Destination Truth (having nothing to do with any creationist ideals) made a somewhat similar expedition in Papua New Guinea, to search for ropens. (I was interviewed by them in their office before their trip but was not in the show) They allowed a native minister to give his view about non-extinction; the religious
connotation was not edited out like it was in MonsterQuest. MQ could have given us at least 5 seconds. They gave us zero.
I don't know about "lost photoge (sic)," but I've spoken with Garth Guessman more than once about this. He mentioned his sighting on the first night, when the MonsterQuest people were sleeping. There was no video taken, as far as I know.
The Sun news paper is running a feature on dinosaurs in the UK, called a Summer of Dinosaurs, I have E-Mailed them about living dinos and mentioned you and your need for funding and your work and suggested they should contact you, maybe they will do just that, hopefully.
i seen the "monster quest" show on this the other night. at least they gave the creation guy a fair shake. AS USUAL, for "monster quest"..."they just missed it"(every time!!! hahaha)...that show never really wants to find or show the truth. the show just wants to speculate everything away.
i would like to see scientist actually do scientific research IN THE FIELD and get out of their brainwashed classrooms where they indoctrinate. evolutionists always say that they know for sure that evolution happened yet then they always say that there are a lot of places in the world that have animals that have never been documented by science and that they have not even touched the surface of ocean life. so how could they "know" anything for sure?
Let's take this in perspective, for each person can believe what they want:
Watch the video above and consider Duane's experience in 1944. Compare it with the many eyewitness sightings since 1944. How is it that so many persons from different countries and different cultures (and different beliefs) have seen the same thing? They see long-tailed pterosaurs because long-tailed pterosaurs are alive.
Many more persons have seen the lights emitted by ropens in Papua New Guinea.
You may believe what you like, trekbridge. But those outside our Western culture could just as well say this:
I don't believe any lights at night have anything to do with airplanes. If airplanes do exist, there is no legitimate reason to believe that they emit light.
As I left PNG with the MonsterQuest team, I paid the two native to go back deep in the jungle, beyond the ridge where the sighting was made and look for roads, air strips, helipads, ect.: Anything that could account for the silent brilliant light we saw together. I returned to the US and checked my e-mail. They sent me word they went to the area and "found nothing but virgin forest" and stated that there "was not even a foot path" in the area: further evidence that points to it being a ropen.
Let me clarify what I told Jonathan Whitcomb. I stayed up with 2 Christian natives after the MonsterQuest film crew went to sleep. We observed facinating light phenomena about midnight beyond the ridge next to us. After telling the director in the morning, he told me it was probably a helecopter. But there was no sound of rotor blades. This still did not convince him.
I don't see this as a cover up; only the director not being convinced of our testimony. I wish he could have seen it with us.
While making night observations one night, I was laying in the grass looking straight up. I saw a "shooting star" of low to medium intensity fly almost directly over me. It had a stary pixie dust trail of relativly short length. It stayed illuminated for 1 to 1.5 seconds. As it went out I clearly saw the black shape of a creature rapidly flapping its wings. I was amazed, and it was this that helped convince me the native were telling the truth about nochturnal shining pterosaurs.
One problem with the MonsterQuest "Flying Monsters" relates to apparent bias in one of the expedition team members: Dr. David M. Martill. He stated, near the beginning of the show, that he put the probability that a pterosaur is what has been seen at "0.000001%"
= one chance in one hundred million. But notice his reason: If it were a pterosaur, then "they would have been seen by lots of people." But this show came about because the ropen has been seen by lots of people.
I don't think that Dr. Martell's statements should be categorized as "bias", he was simply stating his professional opinion that the chances of the Ropen being a pterosaur were VERY remote.
Such an expedition should consist of people with varying view-points. Strength comes from diversity in talents as well as perspectives.
I saw indications that Martill was not given much information about eyewitness-report details. I was involved in the early-pre-production of this episode. It seemed to me that they went ahead with the expedition before doing much research on the reports.
Some of Martill's statements indicate that the producers may not have given much of even what they had (on sighting details) to Martill, if they gave him any details at all. His experience is in the analysis of fossils, not testimonies.
The reason the MonsterQuest producers created this show, the reason they went to Papua New Guinea to do filming, is this: There are many accounts of pterosaur-like creatures in Papua New Guinea.
But Martill did not mention hardly one detail about any eyewitness sighting, as far as I recall. He made a general statement about sightings in general, notwithstanding real science must involve working with the details.
There is a difference between saying the pterosaur-possibility is "very remote" and saying it is one chance in 100,000,000. This is especially true when you go on an expedition that was organized because of eyewitness evidence that the creatures seen were described like pterosaurs.
And "strength" does not come from covering up important evidence. I spoke with Guessman (the leader of the jungle trek), one day after the broadcast. He told me about the coverup of his sighting.
Guessman's sighting, as a member of the MonsterQuest team on New Britain Island, early in 2009 was as follows:
The other members of the expedition team were exhausted, after a long trek up to the camp; they fell asleep. Guessman stayed up and watched the sky. He saw a very bright light that was different from any ropen-type light he had seen before. This was directional. (I later suggested a ropen may have been in a cave.) Anyway, G. sent natives toward that place: no camps or roads there.
Remember that Martill's professional experience is with fossils, not with eyewitness testimony, not with cryptozoology, not with communicating with natives in Papua New Guinea.
I acknowledge his work with what he knows far better than I know: fossils. But my associates and I are cryptozoologists who have interviewed natives in Papua New Guinea. I went there as a forensic videographer, speaking a little of the Tok Pisin language myself. That, I believe, is more relevant here.
Someone asked me why I thought that there were major problems with this MonsterQuest episode. I was involved with the early pre-production. After the broadcast, I telephoned one of the key members of the expedition team. The only one who was serious about doing research was Guessman, and he was the only one who stayed up and had the one sighting. Those details were absent in the edited television show.
The show tried to convince us "no pterosaur." But relevant truth was hidden.
trekbridge: bat-suggestions are old, long ago dismissed by real cryptozoologists who have done research on this. I spoke with a key member of the MonsterQuest expedition team: They were there "to film, not to do research." There was one exception: Guessman, who strongly contradicted the bat explanation (although his opinion was left out of the TV show).
What about the observation the pterosaurs were "fliers" and that they would be seen in the air and seen often?
Especially if they were of such a large size!
The nocturnal nature of bats seems to suggest that they would not be as readily seen. Therefore, they might have a better chance of remaining undiscovered. Although, the MonsterQuest team did not have any problems filming numerous large bats.
Why did MonsterQuest produce this show? Over a period of many years, over a large area of the Southwest Pacific, these pterosaur-like creatures have been seen often.
I suspect that the pterosaur-fossil expert, Dr. David Martill, was not told much about detailed descriptions of many sightings.
My name is Jonathan Whitcomb. I was probably one of the first persons contacted by two of the producers. I referred them to a few eyewitnesses: only a few. But there are many.
Your question, trekbridge, may be partially from the assumption that large pterosaur-like creatures have not been seen often in Papua New Guinea. I have interviewed many natives in that country, during my 2004 expedition. I concluded that the ropen is rare. My two-week stay on Umboi Island was too short a visit. But over the years, many natives have seen these giant long-tailed creatures.
What do you think would be the best way for an expedition to go about collecting proof of the Ropen's existence?
I thought that the MonsterQuest team did a lot of good things with their cameras locations. Seems to me they had a real chance of catching the Ropen on film if it came by them.
Why not ask the expedition team members themselves? I spoke with Guessman (the trek leader) one day after the episode aired. He told me about the one sighting (on the MonsterQuest expedition) that could have been the creature. But everyone else (including Martill) was asleep, so the word of the one eyewitness was disgarded.
By the way, none of the cameras at that location were running while almost all of the explorers were sleeping that night.
First, the best way of videotaping a ropen would be to spend more than two or three days on a hilltop. I spent two week on Umboi Island (the island just west of New Britain Island, where the MonsterQuest team had camped). My two weeks was too short for a rare nocturnal creature to be found and videotaped in a remote tropical rain forest.
Four weeks of searching by four cryptozoologists and jungle experts would be a minimum. They would need to be well-funded, too.
While the MonsterQuest team were in New Britain, were they in the same location where three American missionaries allegedly sighted creatures resembling pterosaurs in the early 90's (read this somewhere else on the internet), or were they searching for more recent sightings of pteroaur-like creatures in other regions of New Britain?
I will have a look at the book you mention. I don't really understand why the location should be secret. After all, the people involved in the MonsterQuest expedition only saw a light at night, didn't they? The daylight sightings of the creatures by the American missionaries twenty years ago were more impressive, in my opinion.
There was one night that many small things flew by the automatic camera. None of them were the creature sought. But natives who live there do not see these creatures every night. You need to have the camera running for many nights and even then, it has to be pointed in the right direction.
I have hiked in mountains of Southern California often, but I have never seen a mountain lion. They are known to have walked where I have walked; they're just elusive. Ropens may be even more elusive.
One common misunderstanding may be relevant: Why are there no newspaper headlines about living pterosaurs?
The ropen is both rare and a cryptid. That means there are not many of them and they have not yet been classified in zoology.
Hodgkinson (please see the video above) described a creature with a wingspan similar to that of a Piper Tri-Pacer (private airplane): no question--> BIG.
Most natives interviewed by us did not get such a good view--> RARE.
A common assumption is that pterosaurs are diurnal. We learned early on in this research that pterosaurs are almost completely nochturnal. In a research area, pterosaurs are seen exclusively in complete darkness. It is a rare exception to see them with any daylight at all.
Last night's MonsterQuest (June 3rd, 2009) was good in that it brought the living-pterosaurs concept out for public examination. But there were problems.
MonsterQuest (MQ) made it appear like there are two possibilities: 1) a giant Pterodactyloid, or 2) a strange undiscovered bat. But Hodgkinson and other eyewitnesses have described a very long tail. Hodgkinson has said, "at least 10-15 feet" long. That was no Pterodactyloid and no bat.
Those who dislike the pterosaur-interpretation of ropen sightings will sometimes just throw out "unknown bat." Look at this video above. The tail was at least 10-15 feet long. Long tails on bats are measured in inches at the most. What Hodgkinson saw was no bat.
Yes, I agree that he is sure of what he saw. I have found that many who watch this video have themselves been convinced that he saw something very strange, even a pterosaur.
I sometimes encounter this word about Duane Hodgkinson: "old." But I suspect that those who've concentrated on his age might not have considered the bigger picture: He had the same conviction when he was young. Few persons would listen to him until how.
At least a few scientists are beginning to take these eyewitness accounts more seriously. My scientific paper "Reports of Living Pterosaurs in the Southwest Pacific" has just been published by a peer-reviewed journal: CRSQ (Creation Research Society Quarterly).
@ropenseeker im so glad to know that others have seen what i have saw usually when i tell someone about what i have seen they think im crazy but my sister has seen the thing with the stick like mouth in a swamp looking area in indiana but im just glad that you and others are looking into this how can i get your paper i am very much interested in knowing what you have come up with
nobody believed me but i know what i saw the first time it was my son and i driving in markham il the next couple of times i was by myself it was a prehistoric bird im 100% i also spoted another birt that had a stick looking mouth which was spotted by my sister 2 in gary indiana just as the man in the video stated the wing flap was like 2 seconds apart as if they were 2 heavy to cary they do exist the last time i saw one was friday may 8th flying in robbins good im not the only one seeing them
I was playing b-ball in Shiprock NM, when I heard a loud Whoosh like a large wing flap. I saw an object flying out of the corner of my eye and looked just in time to notice it was Grey. The object was flying over a canal that was dug trough hills and It was flying over the canal and I was able to hear and see it for a brief second. The first thing I thought of was a pterodactyl. The Navajos say a large bird lives atop the Shiprock rock Tsebitai or rock with wings. one flap to 100yd ratio
probably gonna get a lot of negative replies to this comment but i truley belive i saw this creature when i was 10 years old in the most unusual area i was playing in my neighbors yard and i saw a strange dark bird figure it was huge had a club shaped tail end! resembles creature in video exactly! the spot i saw it in was a small town where i live around the area of Buffalo NY!
Dont be afraid of negative replies. If you are 100% confident then dont give a damn. I saw a large black panther here in the UK walking along a field. GOvt denies they exist but i have seen one
I have interviewed many American eyewitnesses over the past few years. It seems that this kind of flying featherless creature has been seen in many of the 48 states. Most witnesses noticed a long tail.
Until just the past few years, "ropen" had been used for the giant featherless flying creature seen in Papua New Guinea. We now have many eyewitness reports from other parts of the world.
To the best of our knowledge, the ropen is a Rhamphorhynchoid pterosaur, meaning it has a long tail and no feathers.
Hi wow thats a bit strange I was looking for any videos anyone might have from the thing thats been sighted in Arizona. What I mean by strange is your in Montana and when I drove down from Montana into Arizona, the very upper part of AZ I was told by a few different people a few different times who say they saw a teradactyl in the mountians there in the upper part of AZ. I had heard of stories before that but this was the first hand stuff. Do you know of any stoies from AZ?
Hi well I wish I could help but these were people I met along the way coming through the upper part of AZ I didnt really know them. Im sorry I didnt get more info though for both our sakes. A few years ago living in a former apt the people down stairs from me, didnt really know them all that well, we got to talking one night outside & they too told me they saw one up in the upper part of AZ. I only wish I could see one too that would be amazing. I do wish you the best of luck with your book. :)
The ropen of Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea, seems to have a complex color display in its bioluminescence. It has nothing to do with reaction to salt water. It does not flash as a result of contact with the water. The 5-6 seconds or so of bright flash seems to be normal while it flies. I believe that this is the limit that this particular creature normally has for a very bright glow (not identical to other species or perhaps even other individuals).
My overall purpose is deeper than just encouraging investigations that will result in the official discovery of living pterosaurs. Part of my goal is to encourage individuals to think more deeply, think more carefully, and think more objectively.
The Wright Brothers were not taken seriously by mainstream society, nor by news media, nor by the scientific community--not for years. Yet, they still made progress.
I appreciate suggestions about how to videotape or track a ropen. But there is something much more challenging.
We are raised, in Western societies, to believe that dinosaurs and pterosaurs all became extinct many millions of years ago (or else that they changes into creatures far different from present organisms). This bias against discovery has been the main problem facing living-pterosaur investigators. Even if we were to capture a live pterosaur, who would believe us?
I don't think of animals in that way: that they are "mutations." Most genetic mutations cause harm, often death. Healthy creatures that can fly--that's a living pterosaur (when it has a very long tail and no feathers).
Years of experience, with reactions to reports of living pterosaurs, suggests to me that we have been indoctrinated into believing that all dinosaurs and pterosaurs became extinct millions of years ago. Eyewitnesses say otherwise.
I have received sighting reports from various parts of the world, over several years. The phrase "few in number" needs closer examination. I believe that there may be only a few species of pterosaur; but the total number seems hardly "few," for there seems to be so many eyewitnesses of living pterosaurs.
So many reports come from the U.S.! There must be creatures living, at least part time (at least non-winter), in all 48 states in No. America.
I know it s hard to believe sir, but I saw it myself in 1984. There are real pteradactyls flying through the world and Knowone seems to notice them but a few.
When you say, "Where it it," I assume you refer to the video, right? This eyewitness, Duange Hodgkinson, saw the creature near Finschhafen, New Guinea (now the country of Papua New Guinea) in 1944.
Man, I'm jealous. I wish I could personally have experienced this!
packerfan748 2 weeks ago
These apparent pterosaurs are not restricted to flying
in Papua New Guinea. See:
livepterosaursinamerica
ropenseeker 3 weeks ago
13000+ hours of flying experience. I think it's safe to say he knows a damn bird when he sees one.
chipotle29 1 month ago 4
Damn ,im so interested in these! ...'Keep watching the sky -indianinthemachine'
parvezjakson 3 months ago
The Giant Claw!
entwood 4 months ago
I appreciate you uploading this. I have been looking for more information on the ropen, as I plan to add more to our dinosaur seminars.
I have spoken with Dr. Carl Baugh in person, and he also gave me his account of when they saw the ropen in Papua New Guinea. He said they will "glow" at night because of the bioluminescent creatures that live on their skin. They were unable to get video, unfortunately, but if anyone wants to try, Baugh would be the guy to talk to learn how to get started.
creationliberty 5 months ago
They have wings about 8-21 feet long.
01Natasha2003 6 months ago
They have tails not that long but about 2-7 feet long.
01Natasha2003 6 months ago
They didnt survive, there are rips in space and time and these creatures apparently while flying, they went through these "portals"
vlefteris 6 months ago
I Live in Los Angeles born and raised I saw one of those at night i was a personal assistant to a family and picked up the 14 yr old kid from a birthday party and we both saw this,5 seconds later we both turned to each other and we'r like did ya that and he started freakin out!....we both described it it wasn't black it was brown almost like a bat wing ours was huge and with one swoop cleared over the mountain top.
CHEECHGETTHEYAYO 8 months ago
I live in Massachusetts and I saw one over the fairgrounds being attacked by a murder of crows at least 12 strong, it was the size of my minivan or larger. I know i sound full of it but that's what i saw, it was flying very low 50 or 60 ft at most
NatureBoyBern 8 months ago
Definately beliveable.
TheMrBuzzLightbeer 8 months ago
Right on Rex
gguessman 9 months ago
believe some species of pterosaurs are still alive like Pteranodon. The usually ate fish and probably ate dinosaurs on occasion. If dinosaur died out, they ate ish, insects, mammals and other birds. So i think they could be out there in un-explorded areas of Earth.
RexRaptorSpino 9 months ago
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An uncle of mine says he and most of the people in town(they live in the province) saw like a bird with an dinosaur head an a bat like body, the elderly people in town says it comes out when there is a bad weather of some sort cause at that time it was raining pretty strong and no other birds can be seen flying in the sky, and from the facts of the elderly they mostly fly in two's . dont know if it was real though
xiven22 10 months ago
An uncle of mine says he and most of the people in town(they live in the province) saw like a bird with an dinosaur head an a bat like body, the elderly people in town says it comes out when there is a bad weather of some sort cause at that time it was raining pretty strong and no other birds can be seen flying in the sky, and from the facts of the elderly they mostly fly in two's . dont know if it was real though
xiven22 10 months ago
I BELIEVE HIM CUZ I SAW ONE TOO
batawolf 10 months ago
Alternative view of evolution see video book trailer
dltanner99 11 months ago
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dltanner99 11 months ago
i believe him, i mean why make up something like that?
Supaflow7 1 year ago 4
The speed of light has apparently changed which causes carbon dating to be incorrect. You can find videos about it on Youtube here which is where I first heard this. Their dating methods are all wrong.
JohnWesleyMethodist 1 year ago
Have a video by any chance? .....didn't think so.
keithallenlaw 1 year ago
@keithallenlaw You're not getting far in this life with that arrogance, that's for sure :)
HedvigU 1 year ago
@HedvigU Arrogance? Nahh. Scientific with real evidence is how I roll. Logic trumps emotion every time. Learn that.
keithallenlaw 1 year ago
@keithallenlaw I'm not going after emotions. I would say ypu are right now.
HedvigU 1 year ago
@keithallenlaw Amen
yoguy2005 10 months ago
I can tell when a man is lying and this man is not lying. I believe he seen something that day now what it is will forever be a mystery but I would not doubt it if it was a Pterodactyl.
1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
@1MrCobblepot Well you should, because pterdactyls lived 10's of millions of years ago, in that time, don't you think it would have evolved into something else??? Get a clue, Dinosaurs are GONE!
Sjamsucks 1 year ago
@Sjamsucks Coelacanth dont evolve in anything new after millions of years, and including all the changes the world has experimenting all this time still alives with the same form. There are some survivors from that era which still are not GONE
xuxesumare 1 year ago
@Sjamsucks
If a creature is not burried above a certain geologic layer, evolutionists assume the creature has been extinct since the layer was formed (usually assumed to be in the millions of years). The problem with this logic is the large number of exceptions to the rule. Just how many creatues do we need to find still alive before we throw out this flawed logic. Fossil cycad/sago palms stop at the KT boundry, & houseshoe crabs stop at the Permian, yet these creatures live today.
gguessman 9 months ago
@Sjamsucks
Thousands of animals and plants are burried in fossil layers assumed to be 10's of millions of years old, but they survive with no significant change:
Chambered nautilus, dragon flies, Crocodiles, sharks, ginko trees, grape vines, fig trees, salamander, sturgeons, tuataras, wollemi pines, etc, etc.
All are still the same basic kind of creature their ancestors were, showing no evolutionary change. Observational comparisons indicates stasis not evolution.
gguessman 9 months ago 3
I believe him he was an I witness in the military nobody in the military would lie about something they saw in ww2
DWGboys 1 year ago
hjkhhg
jelugig 1 year ago
I believe it, that is awesome. I just wish people would stop putting fake clips of these great beasts that God created on youtube. there real and still ALIVE!
jelugig 1 year ago
Mental old guy, no more flying for you
moomoo1337 1 year ago
@moomoo1337 I don't think he's mental I know they do exist I have heard stories myself.
1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
@1MrCobblepot Last night I saw a flying bus with bat wings and it was driven by a giant vampire with glowing eyes and all the passengers were werewolves with knights armour on. Thats a story about a flying thing, do you believe it too?
moomoo1337 1 year ago
@1MrCobblepot Impossible do to evolution. Even if they did survive the mass extinction, they would have evolved into something new, and then that would have evolved into something new. See my point? Animals have to adapt, and well, having the same build for 65 million years would would not be sufficient for surviving extreme changes in temperature, or the changes in the chemistry of the atmosphere (the ratios of the gases in the air have changed substantially since the dinosaurs).
Sjamsucks 1 year ago
nice interview ....theres alot of things on this earth that havent been seen by the majority of people but it doesnt mean they dont exist.
marie1w 1 year ago 3
this guy is so believable, i doubted this at first, but he is not out to gain anything from thing from this and he seems like a very kind, honest , older man. i don't think he is lieing at all.
indibabs122275 1 year ago 3
That Geezer is old enough to have bore witness to the cretaceous period
heatflash888 1 year ago
that looks just like this weird medium sized bird that flew above me and my friends in my neighborhood as soon as we saw it I yelled Dragon Bird!! (:
but this is alot bigger than that dragon bird that I saw .....
...much bigger
SaturnStarz12 1 year ago
In May of 2008 I saw a pair of what I could identify as Pterosaurs, flying in a generally south-south-west direction over Oxnard, Ca. They were at about 800 feet altitude, in a straight glide, no wing beats. I estimate they had wing spans of 10 to 12 feet. The legs trailing out behind it made it clear it was not a bird, and it had a distinct shape to the head as well. I know what I saw.
studabaker6 1 year ago
The crazy! It burns. >_<
GodofCider 1 year ago
this man is too old to lie and has faught in WWII in a place where even today, to this date, not so many people come in for a visit and so, the more reason to believe there might be something out there that has survived many natural disaster living in deep caves etc.
Sharzad6 1 year ago
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they should try to shoot it down.
papaburger 1 year ago
Please, papaburger, consider the value of a living pterosaur. We have enough fossils, don't we?
ropenseeker 1 year ago 30
@ropenseeker well then capture it alive. put it in a cage.
papaburger 1 year ago
@ropenseeker but with modern chemical sciense, we can preserve the dead body indefinitely . If we let it live out its life.. It might go missing again and be eaten by mice, and insects.
papaburger 1 year ago
@ropenseeker Consider how we don't know if these are aggressive or passive.
009jorge1 1 year ago
@ropenseeker yeah but we dont have new death ancient animals, dont we? Now. Go and shoot it down.
Losieusatra 1 year ago
@ropenseeker no wonder yer a dumb shit
thoostorm4 7 months ago
I assure you, I NEVER just take another person's word for anything. I was a dino-nut in school. I've done research. While there are those who believe the smaller Pterodactyl could have possibly gotten aloft from the ground, the Pteranodon is widely believed to have been too big and heavy. (Far heavier than even the largest bat) It could glide for extended periods from high point to high point, but if it were to be caught on the ground, it was quite vulnerable.
Gunstar1701 1 year ago
Oh shit... What about a T-rex comming torwords us?!
071598dave 1 year ago
I believe this gentleman did see a strange and possibly unknown winged creature. However, most paleontologists agree that pterosaurs could not take off from the ground.
Gunstar1701 1 year ago
@Gunstar1701 Most people do not consider every possibility. Even scientists. Bats hang upside down and take off that way. Also bats are known to be able to get off the ground using just their wings, albeit a bit difficult but quite doable. Pterosaurs could have done the same. Even if they had short legs and feet they could stand upright and take off that way. One should not discount possibilities just because someone else says it cannot be possible.
JustUrFigmentation 1 year ago
@JustUrFigmentation I assure you, I NEVER take anyone's word for anything. I was a dino-nut for a while in elementary school. I did quite a bit of reading. Although the smaller Pterodactyl is believed to have been capable of getting aloft from the ground, not so the Pteranodon. It was too big and heavy. (much larger than a bat) It could glide for extended periods from high point to high point. But if it were caught on the ground, it would have been quite vulnerable.
Gunstar1701 1 year ago
he is most likely telling the truth. I mean the probability of hi lying is like 3 out of 60. and anyway I believe him no matter what.
13gormaj 1 year ago
i truly believe thast they
have always been here.
and not extinct.this world
has areas where man has never
set foot.this creatures are going to
reveal themselves more and more
because the world has no idea
just how amazing GOD is.
he created them and they are his.
so it is really no surprise.
gibsongold1970 1 year ago
it is very hard NOT to believe him
Morella13 2 years ago 26
I have interviewed Hodgkinson several times since mid-2004. Yes, he is a very credible eyewitness. (But I was not the interviewer in this video; it was done by my associate, Garth Guessman, who is another living-pterosaur investigator. I edited his video footage and uploaded it onto Youtube.)
ropenseeker 2 years ago 2
@ropenseeker pilots are not the best eyewitnesses,as most people believe.I believe he saw something,what ?I don't know.Remote as it is,I would suspect if he had seen a surviving pterosaur with a 30 foot wingspan,we would have found plenty of evidence by now.Having seen what Festo has done with flying mechanical bird,it sure would be fun and a challenge to build a flying pterosaur with 2011 mechanics.
inagod 7 months ago
Books have been written about living pterosaurs, and not all are restricted to the areas around Papua New Guinea.
Also, many web pages can be found by searching with words like "live pterosaur" or "ropen."
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Don't forget they just recently found 1yard long rats in jungles, who are again relict animals.
Hashishtani 2 years ago
He seems sincere who knows maybe there are some still in existence?
holylucifer666 2 years ago
It's plausible for some very few population of relict creatures to survive. In Central Asia place where I leave we have relict fish who scientists say are dinosaur fish. So it's quite possible, but it's not guarantied that this creatures are still exist today, taking into account the nature state today, all of this could be quite dead .
Hashishtani 2 years ago
I seen one in sudan,africa in 1988...they are real...they still exist !!!! believe it or not!!! They Exist !!!!
kushclothingco 2 years ago
Could you describe your sighting?
What did it look like and how big was it?
trekbridge 2 years ago
These things get sighted in Texas as well. My brother and I saw something one night that looked more like one than any bird, and far too big to have been a bat. Whatever it was, it was threatening, big time. Don't knock it; you could see something unknown one day.
LadyGreenEyes964 2 years ago 7
I removed many comments about evolution; as I explained months ago, this is not a forum for that discussion. Suffice it to say that those who have traveled to Papua New Guinea (including myself) to search for living pterosaurs have been creationists (of one kind or another, at least). For details about how this relates to the General Theory of Evolution, use Google with: "pterosaur ropen evolution" -- The first 6-7 results of page one are what I recommend.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
I forgot to mention the exceptions for explorers: Team members of Destination Truth and MonsterQuest were mostly non-creationists, with only about one creationist per expedition on each of those two expeditions.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
@ropenseeker Hello I wanted to start off by saying that I am a creationist and also more importantly a Christian. I believe that there are dinosaurs still alive such as the Ropen. I have been searching all over the internet for someone to talk to more about this. I have several questions about the Ropen such as where would the best place be on Earth to find one? Also if you are ever planning on going on an expedition to find one, I am very much looking at a way to find living pterosaurs.
ILoveGodsWord413 7 months ago
@ILoveGodsWord413 i know some place where pterosaurs are the least strange
dokha 6 months ago
@dokha Hello and thank you for replying dokha. I would be very eager to learn this information if you would be so kind as to share it with me. Thank you. :)
ILoveGodsWord413 6 months ago
@ropenseeker i first am an evolutionist, evolution would not discredit a living dinosaur as a survivor, I personally have seen a "thunderbird in ohio, that did not look like a buzzrd, and a couple other wierd critters, I personally think the ropen is a convergent creature
goldgrif 4 months ago
about 20ft of wingspan i'm guessing from where i'm standing...or could've been much longer.
I don't remember the exact location---I live in MN and I was 13yrs old at the time.
And i know what i saw. even my sister saw it with me.
that my friend, is a pteranodon....
people don't have to believe me, i know what i saw---they do exist.
Rozenladie 2 years ago 2
Was your sighting during the summer months?
I ask this question because I know Minnesota winters can be pretty extreme and pteranodons being reptiles need hot weather.
The answer might indicate whether the live in Minnesota or simply migrate through it on their way to warmer regions.
trekbridge 2 years ago
Yes, It was during summer. I do think they live here from time to time.
Rozenladie 2 years ago
I believe the guy~
I've seen actually 2 of those dino-bird like pterodactyl-during daylight, look blue-grayish purple with a little red color. No fur, huge and has a head crest. i was thinking, "don't eat me"
if only i have money to do my own investigation on these kind of things.
Rozenladie 2 years ago
Where did you see them?
How big would you estimate the wingspan was of the two you sighted?
trekbridge 2 years ago
If I ever win the damn lottery man , im so going to go hunting for stuff like this , if they are there we need to prove it !
jocktheshockerrr 2 years ago
hey man these guys are the lottery! LOL
cartergj 2 years ago
A recent press releases mentions an estimate that 1400 Americans have seen obvious living pterosaurs in the United States within the past 30 years. Use a search engine with these words: 1400 eyewitnesses pterosaurs
ropenseeker 2 years ago
make that 1401 because i once saw one of these creatures infact me and my friend saw it back in Primary School while we were playing on the oval It was Huge and the thing we noticed it had like a tail i remember about 5 of us rushed to the libary after that to search through the Dinosaur Books and try to compare what we saw.
srbija08 2 years ago
I saw something strange like that i was with my mom we were takeing a trip to see some relatives in virgina and we stoped at a civll war baddelfled and i had my video camra and i looked to my frount and i saw this thing it was large and black and i codent tell wich was its head at first i that it was a black bear becase we wire in pa i zoomed in on it with my camra to get a beter look but i coen't make it out we went into the muzem that was thare and when we came back out it was gone!!!!!!!!!!!
ThePolerbearproducts 2 years ago
he seems to be geniune i believe him
whatyouknowabouthat 2 years ago 8
ever think that some ufos are theses because i heard they glow at night
JEREMIAjermey 2 years ago
There is a press release online that mentions three evidences that reports of living pterosaurs in the United States are not primarily from hoaxes. Use a search with:
"Pterodactyls are more likely living creatures than hoaxes"
(Remember to enclose the above in quotes.)
ropenseeker 2 years ago
A book was published just a few days ago. It is about apparent living pterosaurs that have been seen in the United States: "Live Pterosaurs in America."
Many sighting reports in the United States include BOTH a head crest and a long tail for the creature seen.
This involves a new way of looking at this subject: Eyewitness testimonies, cryptozoology, open-mindedness. (And it would not hurt to see the dot-com for "objectiveness")
ropenseeker 2 years ago
egdeltur666
Really? Are you sure about "Pterodactyls don't have head crests. At all."? I believe you refer to the long-tailed Rhamphorhynchoids.
Google on: rhamphorhynchoid "head crest"
The first entry I found was about the Rhamphorhynchoid with the name "Scaphognathus crassirostris"--a long-tailed
pterosaur with a head crest.
I've encountered many comments like this, that is, the apparent assumption that all there is to know about pterosaurs is what experts tell us from examining fossils.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Hey I saw one too! I was at a New Jersey mall at the time. I was looking at the window on the top of the building.
CoolguyChamp 2 years ago
I didn't mean to sound snobbish or close-minded, if that's how it came out. I apologize. Personally I believe in many cryptids, and have always been fascinated with the subject as far back as I can remember. To be honest, I have never come across anything pterodactyl related, so I was shocked when I heard about it. I knew about the Congo brontosaurus, but not this. Anyway, there are lots of witnesses with a lot of credible testimony, and I doubt everyone can be lying. Best of luck to your books.
DagothJeff 2 years ago
Thank you, DagothJeff
I am grateful that you recognize the significance of many eyewitnesses who report the same thing. For sightings in Papua New Guinea, here is a partial listing of major sightings:
1) Duane Hodgkinson (This video)
2) Brian Hennessy (1971)
3) Lake Pung (7 boys, ~1994)
4) Perth, Australia, couple (1997)
All of the above involved a very large flying creature, either obviously without feathers or with no sign of feathers. All of them also involved a long tail.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
hate to add to the testimonies but i was driving with my father and brothers and we all watch it fly over the car my dad was so amazed that he pulled over for us to watch it fly by
9Gorgeous 2 years ago
Normally I would dismiss creature sightings like this, because you don't hear much about them - but it's credible testimony like this that re-fuels my faith!
DagothJeff 2 years ago
Hi, DagothJeff
One reason that the public doesn't "hear much about" reports of apparent living pterosaurs is that people "dismiss creature sightings like this."
For years, I have interviewed eyewitnesses of apparent pterosaurs. Those eyewitnesses who are from Western countries are very hesitant to tell anybody about their experiences because they are so often rejected.
I am very grateful to the many who have told me about what they've seen. I'm now writing another book on this subject.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
The second edition of my book "Searching for Ropens" examines the expeditions of the explorers who searched in Papua New Guinea from the late 20th Century into the 21st Century. It also examines eyewitness testimonies and compares them to each other.
SFR is a creationist book.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
An Introduction to expeditions:
My (Ropenseeker) real name is Jonathan Whitcomb. Guessman and I have been friends and fellow living-pterosaur investigators since 2004.
The two of us explored Umboi Island in 2004, interviewing many native who had seen the ropen. We are convinced that this animal is a Rhamphorhynchoid (long-tailed) pterosaur.
The most recent comments here have been about the June, 2009 broadcast of the MonsterQuest "Flying Monsters" episode. Guessman was featured.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Being a Christian Creationist does not automatically disqualify me from doing good research. I am in good company. There is a long list of Christian Creationists who founded and/or furthered the sciences: Boyle, Newton, Kepler, Pascal, DesCartes, Linnaeus, Faraday, Babbage, Morse, Rawlinson, Pasteur, Kelvin, Maxwell, Lister, Carver, etc. Each were outspoken about there Biblical convictions. Their research was based on their motives and understanding as Creationists, and I am no different.
gguessman 2 years ago 3
Trekbridge,
I primarily network with Christian Nationals and Missionaries. They are the means by which we have received most of our intelligence about pterosaur activity from the field. They are also extremely helpful and hospitable: feeding, assisting, and even housing us. Few secular organizations exist that would work with us in this capacity.
gguessman 2 years ago 3
Trekbridge,
I believe in Jesus. I am far from perfect, but He has profoundly changed me for the better. I want others to know Him as well. I am not ashamed of this, nor have I tried to hide it. I used to believe in Evolution, but after comparing it to Creation Science side by side, I became a Creationist.
gguessman 2 years ago
Trekbridge,
Monster Quest came to Genesis Park and asked if we would lead an expedition. We accepted under the condition that our Creation World View would not be censored.
Unfortunately all vestiges of Christianity and Creation Science were left on the editing room floor. Our world view was censored to the point that I was made to look like a secular researcher. This was never my intent.
gguessman 2 years ago 2
I have no problem at all with the Creationist viewpoint...but, I strongly believe that it, as well as the Evolutionary viewpoint, should be set aside when doing field research.
Such viewpoints may well be a persons motivations for participating in the research project, but they should be irrelevant to the outcome.
An Evolutionist's film will capture a pterosaur just as well as a Creationist's film.
A pterosaur either exists or it doesn't.
Natives, Christian or not, see what they see.
trekbridge 2 years ago
trekbridge:
I think I understand your point about the beliefs of the natives. Yes, they will tell us what they see, regardless of their beliefs.
Guessman and I were both on Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea, in 2004 (but on two separate expeditions). We have learned that Christian natives help us much more than those who are not Christians. We do not interview them differently but we do appreciate the significant help we received from those who made our expeditions successful.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
trekbridge:
It would be wonderful if more Westerners would explore remote areas and search for these elusive creatures. I would welcome help from those who believe differently than I do about origins.
The reality is that only creationists searched for ropens (or pterosaur-like creatures) in remote jungles in Papua New Guinea, from 1993 through late 2006 (maybe with one exception).
Those who discounted our beliefs often ridiculed us for those beliefs. Almost no non-creationist helped.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Evolutionists involved in the making of the MonsterQuest "Flying Monsters" episode blatantly censored any and all mentions Creation Science concepts, but they had no problem leaving in all mentions of Evolutionary concepts. Where is the balance? What are they afraid of? Let BOTH side express themselves. Why the onesidedness? It tells me they can not win in a fair debate. If they think they can win, then let us speak.
gguessman 2 years ago 3
Mr. Guessman,
Please, lets keep the show MonsterQuest in perspective.
It is NOT a philosophical concepts show, it is about finding evidence of "cryptids". NOT about debating Evolution vs Creationism.
I don't blame the producers for preventing the show from becoming such a debate.
People watch the show in the hopes of seeing an actual "cryptid" filmed.
They do NOT tune-in to such a show to hear people argue!!
trekbridge 2 years ago
Trekbridge
I think that Guessman and I would agree with you on that point: that the show was not about comparing philosophical concepts. But that is not the point.
Guessman agreed to take the MonsterQuest team to that very remote island on about eight conditions; that was in a contract that they signed. As I understand, none of those conditions were met to G.'s satisfaction (but about 2-3 were partially met).
The show made it seem like G & others believed differently than they did.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
A footnote on the creationist point:
Two years ago Destination Truth (having nothing to do with any creationist ideals) made a somewhat similar expedition in Papua New Guinea, to search for ropens. (I was interviewed by them in their office before their trip but was not in the show) They allowed a native minister to give his view about non-extinction; the religious
connotation was not edited out like it was in MonsterQuest. MQ could have given us at least 5 seconds. They gave us zero.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
thank u i heard about this and ive been looking i watch alot of monster quest i heard that there was lost photoge
JEREMIAjermey 2 years ago
I don't know about "lost photoge (sic)," but I've spoken with Garth Guessman more than once about this. He mentioned his sighting on the first night, when the MonsterQuest people were sleeping. There was no video taken, as far as I know.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Just forgot yourname sorry.
The Sun news paper is running a feature on dinosaurs in the UK, called a Summer of Dinosaurs, I have E-Mailed them about living dinos and mentioned you and your need for funding and your work and suggested they should contact you, maybe they will do just that, hopefully.
Good Luck Rgds.
lordjoggins 2 years ago
i seen the "monster quest" show on this the other night. at least they gave the creation guy a fair shake. AS USUAL, for "monster quest"..."they just missed it"(every time!!! hahaha)...that show never really wants to find or show the truth. the show just wants to speculate everything away.
christopher1X 2 years ago
i would like to see scientist actually do scientific research IN THE FIELD and get out of their brainwashed classrooms where they indoctrinate. evolutionists always say that they know for sure that evolution happened yet then they always say that there are a lot of places in the world that have animals that have never been documented by science and that they have not even touched the surface of ocean life. so how could they "know" anything for sure?
christopher1X 2 years ago
Let's take this in perspective, for each person can believe what they want:
Watch the video above and consider Duane's experience in 1944. Compare it with the many eyewitness sightings since 1944. How is it that so many persons from different countries and different cultures (and different beliefs) have seen the same thing? They see long-tailed pterosaurs because long-tailed pterosaurs are alive.
Many more persons have seen the lights emitted by ropens in Papua New Guinea.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
You may believe what you like, trekbridge. But those outside our Western culture could just as well say this:
I don't believe any lights at night have anything to do with airplanes. If airplanes do exist, there is no legitimate reason to believe that they emit light.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
As I left PNG with the MonsterQuest team, I paid the two native to go back deep in the jungle, beyond the ridge where the sighting was made and look for roads, air strips, helipads, ect.: Anything that could account for the silent brilliant light we saw together. I returned to the US and checked my e-mail. They sent me word they went to the area and "found nothing but virgin forest" and stated that there "was not even a foot path" in the area: further evidence that points to it being a ropen.
gguessman 2 years ago
Let me clarify what I told Jonathan Whitcomb. I stayed up with 2 Christian natives after the MonsterQuest film crew went to sleep. We observed facinating light phenomena about midnight beyond the ridge next to us. After telling the director in the morning, he told me it was probably a helecopter. But there was no sound of rotor blades. This still did not convince him.
I don't see this as a cover up; only the director not being convinced of our testimony. I wish he could have seen it with us.
gguessman 2 years ago
While making night observations one night, I was laying in the grass looking straight up. I saw a "shooting star" of low to medium intensity fly almost directly over me. It had a stary pixie dust trail of relativly short length. It stayed illuminated for 1 to 1.5 seconds. As it went out I clearly saw the black shape of a creature rapidly flapping its wings. I was amazed, and it was this that helped convince me the native were telling the truth about nochturnal shining pterosaurs.
gguessman 2 years ago
One problem with the MonsterQuest "Flying Monsters" relates to apparent bias in one of the expedition team members: Dr. David M. Martill. He stated, near the beginning of the show, that he put the probability that a pterosaur is what has been seen at "0.000001%"
= one chance in one hundred million. But notice his reason: If it were a pterosaur, then "they would have been seen by lots of people." But this show came about because the ropen has been seen by lots of people.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
I don't think that Dr. Martell's statements should be categorized as "bias", he was simply stating his professional opinion that the chances of the Ropen being a pterosaur were VERY remote.
Such an expedition should consist of people with varying view-points. Strength comes from diversity in talents as well as perspectives.
trekbridge 2 years ago
I saw indications that Martill was not given much information about eyewitness-report details. I was involved in the early-pre-production of this episode. It seemed to me that they went ahead with the expedition before doing much research on the reports.
Some of Martill's statements indicate that the producers may not have given much of even what they had (on sighting details) to Martill, if they gave him any details at all. His experience is in the analysis of fossils, not testimonies.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
The reason the MonsterQuest producers created this show, the reason they went to Papua New Guinea to do filming, is this: There are many accounts of pterosaur-like creatures in Papua New Guinea.
But Martill did not mention hardly one detail about any eyewitness sighting, as far as I recall. He made a general statement about sightings in general, notwithstanding real science must involve working with the details.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
There is a difference between saying the pterosaur-possibility is "very remote" and saying it is one chance in 100,000,000. This is especially true when you go on an expedition that was organized because of eyewitness evidence that the creatures seen were described like pterosaurs.
And "strength" does not come from covering up important evidence. I spoke with Guessman (the leader of the jungle trek), one day after the broadcast. He told me about the coverup of his sighting.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Fascinating and disturbing that that information would be covered up!
What were the details of Mr. Guessman's sighting?
trekbridge 2 years ago
Guessman's sighting, as a member of the MonsterQuest team on New Britain Island, early in 2009 was as follows:
The other members of the expedition team were exhausted, after a long trek up to the camp; they fell asleep. Guessman stayed up and watched the sky. He saw a very bright light that was different from any ropen-type light he had seen before. This was directional. (I later suggested a ropen may have been in a cave.) Anyway, G. sent natives toward that place: no camps or roads there.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Remember that Martill's professional experience is with fossils, not with eyewitness testimony, not with cryptozoology, not with communicating with natives in Papua New Guinea.
I acknowledge his work with what he knows far better than I know: fossils. But my associates and I are cryptozoologists who have interviewed natives in Papua New Guinea. I went there as a forensic videographer, speaking a little of the Tok Pisin language myself. That, I believe, is more relevant here.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Someone asked me why I thought that there were major problems with this MonsterQuest episode. I was involved with the early pre-production. After the broadcast, I telephoned one of the key members of the expedition team. The only one who was serious about doing research was Guessman, and he was the only one who stayed up and had the one sighting. Those details were absent in the edited television show.
The show tried to convince us "no pterosaur." But relevant truth was hidden.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Hello, lordjoggins
I think you might be confusing me with Paul Nation, another living-pterosaur investigator. My name is Jonathan Whitcomb.
Thank you, I am well, and still writing about living pterosaur investigations.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
trekbridge: bat-suggestions are old, long ago dismissed by real cryptozoologists who have done research on this. I spoke with a key member of the MonsterQuest expedition team: They were there "to film, not to do research." There was one exception: Guessman, who strongly contradicted the bat explanation (although his opinion was left out of the TV show).
ropenseeker 2 years ago
What about the observation the pterosaurs were "fliers" and that they would be seen in the air and seen often?
Especially if they were of such a large size!
The nocturnal nature of bats seems to suggest that they would not be as readily seen. Therefore, they might have a better chance of remaining undiscovered. Although, the MonsterQuest team did not have any problems filming numerous large bats.
trekbridge 2 years ago
"Seen often" #1
Why did MonsterQuest produce this show? Over a period of many years, over a large area of the Southwest Pacific, these pterosaur-like creatures have been seen often.
I suspect that the pterosaur-fossil expert, Dr. David Martill, was not told much about detailed descriptions of many sightings.
My name is Jonathan Whitcomb. I was probably one of the first persons contacted by two of the producers. I referred them to a few eyewitnesses: only a few. But there are many.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
"Seen often" #2
Your question, trekbridge, may be partially from the assumption that large pterosaur-like creatures have not been seen often in Papua New Guinea. I have interviewed many natives in that country, during my 2004 expedition. I concluded that the ropen is rare. My two-week stay on Umboi Island was too short a visit. But over the years, many natives have seen these giant long-tailed creatures.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
What do you think would be the best way for an expedition to go about collecting proof of the Ropen's existence?
I thought that the MonsterQuest team did a lot of good things with their cameras locations. Seems to me they had a real chance of catching the Ropen on film if it came by them.
trekbridge 2 years ago
Why not ask the expedition team members themselves? I spoke with Guessman (the trek leader) one day after the episode aired. He told me about the one sighting (on the MonsterQuest expedition) that could have been the creature. But everyone else (including Martill) was asleep, so the word of the one eyewitness was disgarded.
By the way, none of the cameras at that location were running while almost all of the explorers were sleeping that night.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
First, the best way of videotaping a ropen would be to spend more than two or three days on a hilltop. I spent two week on Umboi Island (the island just west of New Britain Island, where the MonsterQuest team had camped). My two weeks was too short for a rare nocturnal creature to be found and videotaped in a remote tropical rain forest.
Four weeks of searching by four cryptozoologists and jungle experts would be a minimum. They would need to be well-funded, too.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Hi ropenseeker,
While the MonsterQuest team were in New Britain, were they in the same location where three American missionaries allegedly sighted creatures resembling pterosaurs in the early 90's (read this somewhere else on the internet), or were they searching for more recent sightings of pteroaur-like creatures in other regions of New Britain?
Thanks, Frank
FrankTMarsh 2 years ago
Hi, Frank
The next time I communicate with Guessman, I'll ask him about the New Britain sightings. It may still be secret.
For online information, (other than what is still secret) do a search with:
New Britain pterosaur
Most of the first few pages of results should give you much information.
Of course, there is much more info in the 2nd edition of my book:
Searching for Ropens [2nd ed.]
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Hi ropenseeker,
I will have a look at the book you mention. I don't really understand why the location should be secret. After all, the people involved in the MonsterQuest expedition only saw a light at night, didn't they? The daylight sightings of the creatures by the American missionaries twenty years ago were more impressive, in my opinion.
Regards, Frank
FrankTMarsh 2 years ago
What does ropen mean ?
Lyricalstar7 2 years ago
Hi, Lylricalstar7
What does "ropen" mean? I'll quote from the second edition of the nonfiction book "Searching for Ropens."
"Any featherless creature that flies in the Southwest Pacific , and has a tail-length more than 25% of its wingspan."
I would add that the creature needs to be larger than an insect.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
There was one night that many small things flew by the automatic camera. None of them were the creature sought. But natives who live there do not see these creatures every night. You need to have the camera running for many nights and even then, it has to be pointed in the right direction.
I have hiked in mountains of Southern California often, but I have never seen a mountain lion. They are known to have walked where I have walked; they're just elusive. Ropens may be even more elusive.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
"Seen often" #3
One common misunderstanding may be relevant: Why are there no newspaper headlines about living pterosaurs?
The ropen is both rare and a cryptid. That means there are not many of them and they have not yet been classified in zoology.
Hodgkinson (please see the video above) described a creature with a wingspan similar to that of a Piper Tri-Pacer (private airplane): no question--> BIG.
Most natives interviewed by us did not get such a good view--> RARE.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
A common assumption is that pterosaurs are diurnal. We learned early on in this research that pterosaurs are almost completely nochturnal. In a research area, pterosaurs are seen exclusively in complete darkness. It is a rare exception to see them with any daylight at all.
gguessman 2 years ago
Last night's MonsterQuest (June 3rd, 2009) was good in that it brought the living-pterosaurs concept out for public examination. But there were problems.
MonsterQuest (MQ) made it appear like there are two possibilities: 1) a giant Pterodactyloid, or 2) a strange undiscovered bat. But Hodgkinson and other eyewitnesses have described a very long tail. Hodgkinson has said, "at least 10-15 feet" long. That was no Pterodactyloid and no bat.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Those who dislike the pterosaur-interpretation of ropen sightings will sometimes just throw out "unknown bat." Look at this video above. The tail was at least 10-15 feet long. Long tails on bats are measured in inches at the most. What Hodgkinson saw was no bat.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
haha i watched that too. Definitely has me thinking there is something out there.
DaxyToTheMax 2 years ago
The guy's gettin' old, but he did seem pretty convinced.
ShokuaK 2 years ago
To ShokuaK:
Yes, I agree that he is sure of what he saw. I have found that many who watch this video have themselves been convinced that he saw something very strange, even a pterosaur.
I sometimes encounter this word about Duane Hodgkinson: "old." But I suspect that those who've concentrated on his age might not have considered the bigger picture: He had the same conviction when he was young. Few persons would listen to him until how.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
At least a few scientists are beginning to take these eyewitness accounts more seriously. My scientific paper "Reports of Living Pterosaurs in the Southwest Pacific" has just been published by a peer-reviewed journal: CRSQ (Creation Research Society Quarterly).
ropenseeker 2 years ago
@ropenseeker im so glad to know that others have seen what i have saw usually when i tell someone about what i have seen they think im crazy but my sister has seen the thing with the stick like mouth in a swamp looking area in indiana but im just glad that you and others are looking into this how can i get your paper i am very much interested in knowing what you have come up with
klpch 1 year ago
nobody believed me but i know what i saw the first time it was my son and i driving in markham il the next couple of times i was by myself it was a prehistoric bird im 100% i also spoted another birt that had a stick looking mouth which was spotted by my sister 2 in gary indiana just as the man in the video stated the wing flap was like 2 seconds apart as if they were 2 heavy to cary they do exist the last time i saw one was friday may 8th flying in robbins good im not the only one seeing them
klpch 2 years ago
I was playing b-ball in Shiprock NM, when I heard a loud Whoosh like a large wing flap. I saw an object flying out of the corner of my eye and looked just in time to notice it was Grey. The object was flying over a canal that was dug trough hills and It was flying over the canal and I was able to hear and see it for a brief second. The first thing I thought of was a pterodactyl. The Navajos say a large bird lives atop the Shiprock rock Tsebitai or rock with wings. one flap to 100yd ratio
rkmorgan32 2 years ago
probably gonna get a lot of negative replies to this comment but i truley belive i saw this creature when i was 10 years old in the most unusual area i was playing in my neighbors yard and i saw a strange dark bird figure it was huge had a club shaped tail end! resembles creature in video exactly! the spot i saw it in was a small town where i live around the area of Buffalo NY!
Kakuzu09265 2 years ago 7
Dont be afraid of negative replies. If you are 100% confident then dont give a damn. I saw a large black panther here in the UK walking along a field. GOvt denies they exist but i have seen one
sonofthedestroyer 2 years ago 9
I have interviewed many American eyewitnesses over the past few years. It seems that this kind of flying featherless creature has been seen in many of the 48 states. Most witnesses noticed a long tail.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Until just the past few years, "ropen" had been used for the giant featherless flying creature seen in Papua New Guinea. We now have many eyewitness reports from other parts of the world.
To the best of our knowledge, the ropen is a Rhamphorhynchoid pterosaur, meaning it has a long tail and no feathers.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Hi wow thats a bit strange I was looking for any videos anyone might have from the thing thats been sighted in Arizona. What I mean by strange is your in Montana and when I drove down from Montana into Arizona, the very upper part of AZ I was told by a few different people a few different times who say they saw a teradactyl in the mountians there in the upper part of AZ. I had heard of stories before that but this was the first hand stuff. Do you know of any stoies from AZ?
TheCross2009 2 years ago
To TheCross2009:
There are sightings of apparent pterosaurs all across the 48 states. I am now writing a book about this (to be published in the Spring of 2009).
Could you please let me know how to get in communicate with someone who reports anything in Arizona? Thank you.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
Hi well I wish I could help but these were people I met along the way coming through the upper part of AZ I didnt really know them. Im sorry I didnt get more info though for both our sakes. A few years ago living in a former apt the people down stairs from me, didnt really know them all that well, we got to talking one night outside & they too told me they saw one up in the upper part of AZ. I only wish I could see one too that would be amazing. I do wish you the best of luck with your book. :)
TheCross2009 2 years ago
I saw one with my OWN eyes in Oswego NY in the late summer of 1991. I was stopped in my tracks because I was afraid it was gonna take me away.
tyrll4prsdnt 2 years ago
To Spookysr (re: bioluminescence):
The ropen of Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea, seems to have a complex color display in its bioluminescence. It has nothing to do with reaction to salt water. It does not flash as a result of contact with the water. The 5-6 seconds or so of bright flash seems to be normal while it flies. I believe that this is the limit that this particular creature normally has for a very bright glow (not identical to other species or perhaps even other individuals).
ropenseeker 2 years ago
To Spookysr (re: scientific community):
My overall purpose is deeper than just encouraging investigations that will result in the official discovery of living pterosaurs. Part of my goal is to encourage individuals to think more deeply, think more carefully, and think more objectively.
The Wright Brothers were not taken seriously by mainstream society, nor by news media, nor by the scientific community--not for years. Yet, they still made progress.
Truth will prevail.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
I appreciate suggestions about how to videotape or track a ropen. But there is something much more challenging.
We are raised, in Western societies, to believe that dinosaurs and pterosaurs all became extinct many millions of years ago (or else that they changes into creatures far different from present organisms). This bias against discovery has been the main problem facing living-pterosaur investigators. Even if we were to capture a live pterosaur, who would believe us?
ropenseeker 2 years ago
To SmoothDan1990: (reg mutations)
I don't think of animals in that way: that they are "mutations." Most genetic mutations cause harm, often death. Healthy creatures that can fly--that's a living pterosaur (when it has a very long tail and no feathers).
Years of experience, with reactions to reports of living pterosaurs, suggests to me that we have been indoctrinated into believing that all dinosaurs and pterosaurs became extinct millions of years ago. Eyewitnesses say otherwise.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
To durion888: (reg: "few in number"):
I have received sighting reports from various parts of the world, over several years. The phrase "few in number" needs closer examination. I believe that there may be only a few species of pterosaur; but the total number seems hardly "few," for there seems to be so many eyewitnesses of living pterosaurs.
So many reports come from the U.S.! There must be creatures living, at least part time (at least non-winter), in all 48 states in No. America.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
I know it s hard to believe sir, but I saw it myself in 1984. There are real pteradactyls flying through the world and Knowone seems to notice them but a few.
bluebarrios 2 years ago
Could you tell us about your sighting?
The circumstances, location, etc...
Ghosthunter10 2 years ago
I could do probably better by capturing one. If, I only had 10 million dollars.
bluebarrios 2 years ago
To unvun:
When you say, "Where it it," I assume you refer to the video, right? This eyewitness, Duange Hodgkinson, saw the creature near Finschhafen, New Guinea (now the country of Papua New Guinea) in 1944.
ropenseeker 2 years ago
To redchango, reply #2:
To learn more about ropen bioluminescence, go to the ropens-dot-com site and click on "bioluminescence."
Or Google on:
ropen light
and try the #1 or #2 pages that come up: These give details about the analysis.
ropenseeker 2 years ago