@Ayato9 The 12 parts I have uploaded are on my play-lists.. called - Gnostics.. this is one of them.. they come from an old documentary on Gnosticism.
The part I have inserted at the end.. comes from a BBC drama called - William Blake MeetsThomas Paine - which I uploaded in 5 parts.. It is among my early uploads.. it is well worth watching.. if you admire the work of Blake.
Not impressed, Isaac Newton was a great alchemist as well as a great physicist, and no doubt had an infinitely deeper understanding of spirituality and mysticism than his critic in this video. The tyranny of imagination over reason is just as bad as the tyranny of reason over imagination, if not even worse due to its reckless disregard for the very real laws of the physical world.
@jonathanspan I believe the point Blake was making is that scientific reasoning has its limits.. not everything can be proved. He was taking an understandable defensive position for his time.. science was imbedded in materialism.. while ignoring the intangibles.
@AcceleratorPlus well yeah, I would add that most brilliant scientists such as leonardo, newton and einstein were very aware of this if you look at their philosophical work. william james is another one, he chose to use a more materialistic point of view to model things, but acknowledged that this choice was merely for the sake of tidiness and avoidance of extreme complexity, and mentions metaphysics as the path to go beyond, though he warns about it's extreme difficulty.
Only ignorant half-wits such as Richard Dorkins with their half baked religion called "atheism" fail to see this. I remember my epistemology teacher in high school used to say that he is an agnostic because he hasn't seen god and he finds it unlikely that he exists, and that if he did see god than he would be a theist, and that he certainly wouldn't call himself an atheist, because that would be like being sure of something he's never seen :)
@jonathanspan Agnosticism is not the middle ground that some people seem to think it is, I am both an agnostic and an atheist, I don't know whether god/s exist but I also don't believe the claims of the theists regarding their versions of god. I don't think that it is actually possible to hold a middle position, you either believe a claim or you don't, but either way you still can be agnostic.
BTW only ignorant people would refer to atheism as a religion, like the hobby of not collecting coins.
god is the collective imagination capable of controlling our evolution. Epi-genetically speaking. It is the greatest of all battlegrounds. All these upper class Ox_Bridge gits. have a hidden agenda. They would have gnostics turning in their graves if they were in them. nyuk nyuk nyuk
I've heard of some spiritualists saying to look within and not with out. Sometimes it seems people are so blinded by what they see on planet Earth that they may not step back and see the observer, themselves.
Also great point about if God was just the world would also be just. Sometimes it seems like the words of the Bible it taken symbolically are merely fables for people to learn from.
Utilitarianism is "the greatest good for the greatest number" am I wrong? And materialism is the idea that there is only one physical universe (the one that we seem to be experiencing via are senses). Spiritualism is the idea that there is an immaterial universe besides the physical one.
You can see the spiritual universe as being all of your intellectual activities, besides your direct sensory experience.
Blake is often misunderstood or abjectly taught in schools. The essence of the man, the way he saw the world beautifully depicted in The Four Zoas and The First Book of Urizen all the way to the spiritual building of Golgonooza in Jerusalem are so inspiring; pulsating with a great sense of creativity, energy and vitality. Blake is the gateway to cultivating our spiritual awareness and potential. Also, Kathleen Raine is a legend in Blakean studies. Check out Golgonooza: City of Imagination!
William Wordsworth remarked, "There was no doubt that this poor man was mad, but there is something in the madness of this man which interests me more than the sanity of Lord Byron and Walter Scott."[
no she try to explain the importance of imagination, within blake's gnosis inspired vision. ( cause most people think gnosis is always link to hermes Trismegistus or the ten storie's but thats a load of crap )
Fantastic!
perceptionsevrything 2 months ago
Just the fact it brung so many people to think so deeply is almost a point in itself..
Sincerly;
The idiot
sydneydowful 10 months ago
Any chance you could upload the full documentary? I'd love to see it...
Ayato9 10 months ago
@Ayato9 The 12 parts I have uploaded are on my play-lists.. called - Gnostics.. this is one of them.. they come from an old documentary on Gnosticism.
The part I have inserted at the end.. comes from a BBC drama called - William Blake MeetsThomas Paine - which I uploaded in 5 parts.. It is among my early uploads.. it is well worth watching.. if you admire the work of Blake.
AcceleratorPlus 10 months ago
Not impressed, Isaac Newton was a great alchemist as well as a great physicist, and no doubt had an infinitely deeper understanding of spirituality and mysticism than his critic in this video. The tyranny of imagination over reason is just as bad as the tyranny of reason over imagination, if not even worse due to its reckless disregard for the very real laws of the physical world.
jonathanspan 1 year ago
@jonathanspan I believe the point Blake was making is that scientific reasoning has its limits.. not everything can be proved. He was taking an understandable defensive position for his time.. science was imbedded in materialism.. while ignoring the intangibles.
AcceleratorPlus 1 year ago
@AcceleratorPlus I think he understood the limitations of reason.
Reason & logic are 'mind operating systems'. They are not false
if used properly, but they are only one of the mind's many tools.
Newton was a seeker of truth! A man who makes great discoveries
has imagination and can think counter intuitively and illogically
when necessary.
fntime 7 months ago
As for Newton’s interests.. I think Blake would have approved.. if he had known.
Nevertheless.. all great minds are subject to error……... i.e. absolute time
If you wish.. check my uploads for...
“Isaac Newton's Secret Interests in Alchemy”
AcceleratorPlus 1 year ago
@AcceleratorPlus well yeah, I would add that most brilliant scientists such as leonardo, newton and einstein were very aware of this if you look at their philosophical work. william james is another one, he chose to use a more materialistic point of view to model things, but acknowledged that this choice was merely for the sake of tidiness and avoidance of extreme complexity, and mentions metaphysics as the path to go beyond, though he warns about it's extreme difficulty.
jonathanspan 1 year ago
Only ignorant half-wits such as Richard Dorkins with their half baked religion called "atheism" fail to see this. I remember my epistemology teacher in high school used to say that he is an agnostic because he hasn't seen god and he finds it unlikely that he exists, and that if he did see god than he would be a theist, and that he certainly wouldn't call himself an atheist, because that would be like being sure of something he's never seen :)
jonathanspan 1 year ago
@jonathanspan Agnosticism is not the middle ground that some people seem to think it is, I am both an agnostic and an atheist, I don't know whether god/s exist but I also don't believe the claims of the theists regarding their versions of god. I don't think that it is actually possible to hold a middle position, you either believe a claim or you don't, but either way you still can be agnostic.
BTW only ignorant people would refer to atheism as a religion, like the hobby of not collecting coins.
traog 1 year ago
EastoffForever
who are you do say what God is to others.
take your chill pill and go study
frizbeee 1 year ago
God wasn't a damn gnostic!!!
---signed, one who has has studied Blake for 35 years and named his son after him.
will you people STUDY for once??
EastofForever 1 year ago
nice one............................like allusion to jung......Gnostic Jung by hoeller gives a great insight to blakes world
OBIrish 1 year ago
god is the collective imagination capable of controlling our evolution. Epi-genetically speaking. It is the greatest of all battlegrounds. All these upper class Ox_Bridge gits. have a hidden agenda. They would have gnostics turning in their graves if they were in them. nyuk nyuk nyuk
knowershark 1 year ago
Blake consumed her all her life that she started to look like he did in his later years!
manchise 1 year ago
I've heard of some spiritualists saying to look within and not with out. Sometimes it seems people are so blinded by what they see on planet Earth that they may not step back and see the observer, themselves.
Also great point about if God was just the world would also be just. Sometimes it seems like the words of the Bible it taken symbolically are merely fables for people to learn from.
HaleyMary 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the video response! :)
A lot of thought provoking stuff in this. Especially God being the imagination and being within while humans are without. Great symbolism there.
HaleyMary 2 years ago
I think the word 'materialism' needs to be defined - does not Blake mean 'utilitarianism'?
nargargole 2 years ago
No he just wants the classification of the human being to be expanded instead of relying on the flat one that materialism presents.
mach1man22 2 years ago
@nargargole
Utilitarianism is "the greatest good for the greatest number" am I wrong? And materialism is the idea that there is only one physical universe (the one that we seem to be experiencing via are senses). Spiritualism is the idea that there is an immaterial universe besides the physical one.
You can see the spiritual universe as being all of your intellectual activities, besides your direct sensory experience.
Jcolinsol 1 year ago
Blake is often misunderstood or abjectly taught in schools. The essence of the man, the way he saw the world beautifully depicted in The Four Zoas and The First Book of Urizen all the way to the spiritual building of Golgonooza in Jerusalem are so inspiring; pulsating with a great sense of creativity, energy and vitality. Blake is the gateway to cultivating our spiritual awareness and potential. Also, Kathleen Raine is a legend in Blakean studies. Check out Golgonooza: City of Imagination!
youandiaredominoes 2 years ago 2
Blake FTW!
who is the lady doing the talking?
MSCearly 2 years ago
Katherine Raine
103northfields 2 years ago
@103northfields
thanks, looked up Nocturne, loved it.
MSCearly 8 months ago
William Wordsworth remarked, "There was no doubt that this poor man was mad, but there is something in the madness of this man which interests me more than the sanity of Lord Byron and Walter Scott."[
azazel637 2 years ago 2
I think that is the best thing I think I've ever watched on youtube. Blake was and is a great visionary hero.
Imagination is a glimpse of the divine!
Thanks for posting.
1966BOBBY 2 years ago
Beautiful - but I don´t believe his view of Imagination had anything to do with so-called gnosticism.
PeterRoeder31 3 years ago
no she try to explain the importance of imagination, within blake's gnosis inspired vision. ( cause most people think gnosis is always link to hermes Trismegistus or the ten storie's but thats a load of crap )
EuRoPeaNDoGg 2 years ago
what is that scene in the middle, where from?
revnazaright 3 years ago