The Doctor and Davros - Genesis of the Daleks

[DehnusNorder]

I love this serial,it is so nice and long, and you see the slow decline into madness from Davros, together with his voice starting to more and more sound like a Dalek :)

[eastwing329]

You know, I may be wrong about this, feel free to disagree, but I think that Davros is, oh I don't know, completely power mad and insane. Again, I may be wrong about this.

[songsoftheriver]

which part of the genesis of the daleks is this????

[eZFearz]

I really miss the old darleks

[Yapostadodat]

One of the BEST intellectual interactions in the Tom Baker series. Nihilism vs REAL Hope.

[poodle888777]

...the incidental music and sound effects in this scene are superb; they really heighten the tension and are so much more effective in their subtlety as compared to the overbearing out-of-sync row that our ears are afflicted with in contemporary TV drama...even the monotone drone in the background invokes the dramatic claustrophobia of the fuhrerbunker and Hitler's Gotterdammerung...PURE GENIUS.

[JustPhilNY]

Best Doctor Who episode of all time!

[vashna3799]

the best doctor and the best davros

[capricious71]

The best doctor. Not interested in the new ones.

[blownuper]

Why would you have a switch that turns off your life support system? I guess this follows under the same question as why do super villians have a self destruct button?

[Megaloryan]

@blownuper Was thinking exactly the same thing! haha!

[sophiewilder]

@blownuper - I guess Davros never read TVtropes...

[227060]

@wlanus im not sure he minds in the end, even before he was the last of the time lords he really hung around earth much more than Gallifray and he seemed to prefer Earth and humanity to his own ppl most of the time. i mean in trial of the time lords he condemns all of time lord society. he condemns our society too but i think he has a greater faith in humanity than he did in his own people and struggled to adopt thier customs but be better than them as an example to them simultaniously

[227060]

This is the moment in the story, no the series, when you kind of clock that Davros went off the deep end WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before the Doctor ever met him. thers almost a childlike element to the way that he makes the decision which anyone reasonable would do the opposite of. YES, he would destroy all life just for the sake of knowing he was the one who did it

[astrocitizen]

@227060 -- There's a certain Donald Pleasance-as-Blofeld quality to the character here.

[Rengekage]

@227060

Oh no, that's not til 30 years later where he finally DOES get hold of that "virus that could eliminate all life" in the Reality Bomb.

[227060]

@Rengekage well actually in a debatably canonical audio drama he literally creates this virus to fuck witht he Doctor. but if if you listen to I davros his origin story you will see, he was well beyond help by the time the Doctor first met him

[Rengekage]

@227060

Okay, we do have that, but again, its canonality is debatable.

[227060]

@Rengekage well yeah but I davros unlike other sudio stuff has so little continuity stuff in it (no Doctor or TARDIS) its basically canon, imean theres no other origin for Davros and any other one probably wouldn't be as good

[EmmaJaneMurdock]

@wlanus Nah, they'll never be able to purge his humanity. He's hopelessly human. :D

[EmmaJaneMurdock]

@wlanus Yeah, that's just human nature...and also Time Lord nature, apparently...

[jeanlucncoelho]

Thumbs up if bbc should make a movie about the time wars

[tmmle7]

when you think of something crazy think of a the result. A virus is not truly living it will grow by killing all else. Rather life starts fighting it off the result would be nothing. no sorrow, happiness, just nothing. as a virus doesn't live so are the Daleks.

[rod798]

Wow - the original and definitive portrayal of Davros by Michael Wisher! RIP Michael.

[RipCruncher1]

Hitler in a bathchair.

[bugmn123456]

For a few moments from 1:30-1:50 I thought he was going Dr. Evil before there was Dr. Evil

[xeractus]

Not a good idea to give Davros the idea of creating something that could wipe out all life, he kept trying to just that over and over again many times afterwards!

[ANSWERTHEPHONEYOUMUG]

davrosh for de larst thyme

[kev5176]

it was inspirational also giving tom baker this story as his 3rd story, allowing this doctor to be shaped by tom, a brilliant script by the daleks creator and delivered by a superb cast gave the story a credibility that even today stands the test of time....it was the fourth doctors best story i think....and gave us davros, a man who is the doctors equal - and thats what scares the doctor - davros knows him as they are in many ways intellectually similar !!

[kev5176]

a brilliant soundtrack made this discussion between the doctor and davros gave it even more tension, it still is the best story about the kaleds and the thals, it gave us history, food for thought and to me showed how a man desperate to save his people will go beyond what is "acceptable" by "humanity"...later we find out more about him and his early life, the accident and why he will always be the one his children return to, and ultimately why he and the doctor will always be at loggerheads !!

[CrimsonHawkArts]

LOL everyone thanks for the views, BTW try an watch with CC on. Funny :p

[diddymuck]

why would he tell the Doctor he has a switch that will kill him? Why does he have such a switch??? Why is it so easy to brush against????

[diddymuck]

probably the most two shocking moments in the episode...Davros advocating the Daleks are a force for good and the capsule full of virus conjecture.

[RegenerationStorm]

Thumbs up if you grinned when Davros said "Workshops" xP

[nikstiks]

Wisher was the one and only!!

[CrimsonHawkArts]

@nikstiks Yeah, shame we didn't see more of him. Molloy was also great, although he never really owned the role like Wisher did.

[nikstiks]

@CrimsonHawkArts Still can't understand why he didn't continue with the role?? He died in 1995!!

[227060]

@CrimsonHawkArts I think they all did a decent job but took the character in different directions. Wisher is the orignal Davros and portrays the absolute core of the character, the Nazi intelligence. Goodwin, blees him, tried hard but fell short, can't blame him tho he had to follow up wisher AND wear his costume too, there was little room to make it his own. Malloy did great stuff developing him and showcasing his mind. Bleach was the pure malevolence of the character

[LokianEule]

@CrimsonHawkArts I'm not so sure about that! Have you heard any of the radio dramas with Molloy as Davros? There he really gets to take the flat ranting villain and bring him into the 3D with scary brilliance.

[StormsongK]

I LOVE Michael Wisher's Davros. He genuinely makes him scary. You believe this guy could exist, because he echoes the sentiments of so many maniacs who have actually lived. He makes him real.

[CrimsonHawkArts]

@StormsongK Agreed. I like the subtle like movements and quiet voice he sometimes has. You know he is evil...

[Exeunt26]

@StormsongK But he's skinnier than Nick Griffin!

[EmmaJaneMurdock]

Wait, did Davros just tell the Doctor exactly how to kill him? :P Still a good clip though!

[CrimsonHawkArts]

@EmmaJaneMurdock Yeah, he could have said "That button destroys the whole base or something. But a great clip indeed.

[EmmaJaneMurdock]

@CrimsonHawkArts I guess Davros never learned how to fib. :)

[youknowimright1]

@EmmaJaneMurdock encase of capture, when nazi's were ever captured they had cyanide to kill themselves, i would imagine he would have it for this reason to escape torture.

[EmmaJaneMurdock]

@youknowimright1 Well, I guess that makes sense, but why would you tell someone about it? :D

[youknowimright1]

@youknowimright1 somebody asked so i answered that question the best way i could.

[lewiszim]

@CrimsonHawkArts Furthermore, why does he even have a switch like that?

[20meerkat]

@EmmaJaneMurdock i'ts kind of the opposite of when evil people tell the hero their precise plan.

[undeadassassin234]

davros was so much better in this than journeys end

[CrimsonHawkArts]

@undeadassassin234 I agree.