et toi? tu comprends le français? à mon avis, tu écris très mal mandarin et l'anglais! for exemple: not was but were since u write " and", now, the question is "do u understand English?"
Ouais, je peux comprendre anglais et le français très bien. Pouvez-vous comprendre l'indonésien ? Juste quelques mots de l'anglais t'ont pris 2 heures à la réponse ? D'ailleurs, elle ne prend pas un anglophone parfait pour comprendre l'anglais.
哈哈哈!大頭症,selon moi, English is the easiest langue in the world,! but not in yours! I don't like u guys at all because u thought that people like me don't know English, so stupid and so pround! Je parle au moins Quatre langues et je suis pas comme vous" doutez les autres" vous, les chinois pensent toujours la même chose, "China is the greatest in the world"" Démocratie correspond pas aux chinois" à mon avis, c'est 100% vrai,
再繼續敎你,selon moi 就是in my opinion, 你好像不知道?不懂得舉一反三,not in urs 當然是跟你說not in ur opinion, 跟你說話挺累,什麼都要講的一清二楚像敎小學生,一邊說自己會說法文,一邊又說看不懂, gavatuo 的程度比你好很多,他也不會膨風硬說自己會!果然中阿!死要面子
Practice makes perfect. The fact that your or his or my English is not good enough is all the more reason why we should use it more. Don't be such a closed minded person.
There are unreasonable people everywhere and even the most reasonalbe people sometimes say unreasonalbe things. Let's debate the merits of his logic rather than going the easy route of stirring shit up between the people across the strait.
u get reason, there are a lot of people like him, so proud for his English, asking others "Do u know English?" all I want to state is "why he thinks people understanding English are better than those who don't know about it" In my opinion, language is just a tool, ask others " Do u know English? Taiwanese English is so poor!" this is a discrimination, a result of colonisation!
My grand-pa can speak 6 languages, but he told me " that presents ur country is too weak, ur mother tongue is not current! " if u read the context carefully, ur find that "it was Mr. onlylie who stared this Flame, China vs. Taiwan, " But u got reason, after all, I shouldn't have replied him and continued this stupid comparison, sorry about it! sincerely!
upload388, I don't understand how people get the notion of someone is actually trying to tease them about their language skills by simply asking "Do you know English?". I am utterly shock and disbelieving of the level of immaturity that was shown by kaoyuehhui. And somehow, kaoyuehhui interpreted my remarks as "discriminating and a result of COLONISATION!" What the hell?!?!?! lol, I find his comments can be really amusing sometimes.
Well, maybe I should apologize for the fact that I didn't know kaoyuehhui's grandpa can actually speak SIX languages! I mean, wow...isn't it astonishing that some people just can't stop boosting themselves. C'mon, why don't you tell us how many cars and houses you own, kaoyuehhui. But he is not the only one, it is the type of society that contains them actually breeds this kind of endless self-boosting habit.
I admit that sometimes I did try to point out the fact that many Taiwanese can not get the first hand stories most of the time simply because they have poor command of English. It's true! They have to rely on their own mainstream media to present the news to them in mandarin. But what they don't know is that, news could have been filtered or distorted before it reaches their eyes and ears.
Calling me "onlylie" and accusing me of starting this whole China vs Taiwan thing? I have 5 words for him, "You are full of shits!". Sometimes, I wasn't upset about them being ignorant about the truth. These people are actually well aware of the truth, but they just choose to stand by the Devil...that's all.
u bet! Iˋm han but in Taïwan, and I know what u want to explain for ur country, but do u know what's protection? I agree with u, u get all rights to move, but if the immigration is too many, the résidents will take it for a threaten, especially for their culture,the chinese gouvernment protect others minoritis why not Tibetans? Didn't u find something wrong over there?
(con't) attention needs to be paid to managing the tensions created by rapid changes which the Chinese government seems to have not done a particularly good job at in this instance.
BTW, the Tibetans don't really have much resentment towards the Hans in Tibet, unlike what the anchor-lady Chen has asserted here. Rather, most of the Tibetan resentment is towards the Hui, because of their historic beef and some of the perceived arrogant ways the Huis have treated the Tibetans.
If u really think that Tibetans are also Chineses, a minority in China, would u agree so many immigrants "han" to change this special place? I think all people need dignity and proudness for their culture, if u really want to change something or to immigrate han, it's better to ask for an agreement of Tibet!
Change is how cultures evolve. The Han Chinese ways have changed quite a bit too, especially recently mostly due to Western influence.
What some call changing the minority culture is actually how Tibetan culture has evolved and flourished. Sure like hell most Tibetans in Tibet, unlike the exiles, don't want to go back to the so-called culture of brutal serfdom where eye-gouging, limb-chopping, and skinning were common practice.
That said, I don't disagree with u on one thing, that is, more
--$1-*-_ Kosovo Independence and Tibet Terrorism was a conspiracy to hurt both Russia and China because Russia and China are blocking United States from bombing Iran and ceasing US Imperialism on oil rich countries. Bush alrd started new Iran war campaign!
--$1-*-_ 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated by US government with the help of Japanese government!
--$1-*-_ /watch?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw
--$1-*-_ America is trading thousands of American soldiers and millions of innocent lives of others for OIL!
The scene is so familiar. Reminds me of 四個笨蛋312踢館的真相事件.
a group of 藏人 crying as victim, a guy from no where can speak Mandarin complains for them. How did they know foreign media will be there? who gather them together to protest? Don't you feel strange?
支持你22109009,中国现状就适合虚心倾听民意,为老百姓的福利做实实在在事情的开明专制,唾弃那些通过狂吠中国政府来从美国佬欧洲佬那里要骨头的汉奸,民主只是幌子,欧美特别是美国要干什么中国的绝大多数百姓心里都很清楚
zl8285082 3 years ago
我本來反對的就是那些民運的漢奸民主,我只是說中共爛,那些民運更爛。他卻口口聲聲說我做過調查嗎,沒做過調查怎么知道中國人民唾棄民運的那種漢奸民主。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
好好学习,天天向上,文明我们的头脑,野蛮我们的身体
gulviking 3 years ago
真你妈会表演,中国在发展的路上走的很孤独,他们诬蔑诋毁中国,不希望看到中国成为大国,台湾不帮就算了,吃里爬外,拍美国马屁,我们能做的只有团结一心,好好学习,天天向上,文明我们的头脑,野蛮我们的身体
1985127 3 years ago 4
CNN=CAO NI NIANG!!!
lyingcnn 3 years ago
so chinese! this statement!CNN is not great, but it's much better than CCTV!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
Great at reporting falsified info, that is, in this particular instance. CCTV is more balanced than the CNN that's for sure.
upload388 3 years ago
只能说媒体是有政治倾向的,身在什么舆论环境里,就会有什么认知,实事除非你亲眼所见. 为什么西方媒体不关注一下伊拉克的人权,美军怎么射杀伊拉克平民,伊拉克死了多少人?只说美国自己陷入泥潭?按理说是不是那些伊 拉克极端组织也是在保卫自己的家园,讽刺的是世界新闻图片大奖,是一个疲惫的入侵伊拉克的美军士兵
gxl1986 3 years ago
達賴喇嘛統治時期,100萬西藏人,10幾萬是喇嘛。這樣的社會怎么可能保畱下來呢?不是中國人,就是西方人。事實上,英國人早就去了,隻是沒有爭過中國人而已。
ynynynynynyn 3 years ago
漢人太差勁了!不顧藏民族的自尊心,大量漢人移居西藏,去西藏玩的人都發現這一點!可惡
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
你会不会看英文字?
onlytruth19 3 years ago
et toi? tu comprends le français? à mon avis, tu écris très mal mandarin et l'anglais! for exemple: not was but were since u write " and", now, the question is "do u understand English?"
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
Ouais, je peux comprendre anglais et le français très bien. Pouvez-vous comprendre l'indonésien ? Juste quelques mots de l'anglais t'ont pris 2 heures à la réponse ? D'ailleurs, elle ne prend pas un anglophone parfait pour comprendre l'anglais.
onlytruth19 3 years ago
哈哈哈!大頭症,selon moi, English is the easiest langue in the world,! but not in yours! I don't like u guys at all because u thought that people like me don't know English, so stupid and so pround! Je parle au moins Quatre langues et je suis pas comme vous" doutez les autres" vous, les chinois pensent toujours la même chose, "China is the greatest in the world"" Démocratie correspond pas aux chinois" à mon avis, c'est 100% vrai,
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
easiest "langue"??!!
"but not in yours!"??!!
so "pround"??!! 你这些是什么英文?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, 大头症是在说你自己吧。你的英文那么烂,你帕不怕笑死人?我就只问你一句"会不会看英文字?",你却立刻大发雷霆,你真的很"台"!
onlytruth19 3 years ago
謝謝誇獎,我確實很台,回誇你一句,你很中!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
再繼續敎你,selon moi 就是in my opinion, 你好像不知道?不懂得舉一反三,not in urs 當然是跟你說not in ur opinion, 跟你說話挺累,什麼都要講的一清二楚像敎小學生,一邊說自己會說法文,一邊又說看不懂, gavatuo 的程度比你好很多,他也不會膨風硬說自己會!果然中阿!死要面子
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
老实说,你才写了两句,错字就一大堆,而且你的法英文表达能力都那么差,谁会看得懂啊? 还说教小学生?不要害了台湾下一代。
你说对啦!中国呀,随便挑个扫地的都比我好多了。怎么啦,你是全台第一的吗? 羞死了。
onlytruth19 3 years ago
對對對,中國人都像你英文好得不得了呀,法文比母語還溜,還會maitriser 印尼文咧!寫字又美意境又好,台灣人的字最醜了,到現在還寫繁體,英文肯定爛法文更別說了!我不認識台灣第一名但我想也比不上中國那個比掃地還差的你,(中國一定強!中國一定要領導我們地球人對抗外星人入侵呀!)對了你好像挺看不起掃地的,歧視農工就屬你啦!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
我怎么会歧视扫地的呢?我本身也在校园里兼职
倒垃圾的。不过,我会歧视一些爱自夸说什么英文是最容易的,可是自己的英文却很烂,然后又很爱秀英文,秀得越多就错越多,一直秀就一直错,错得越多就越爱秀。嗨~~,都不明白这些人是怎么搞的,真是羞死人了啦。
onlytruth19 3 years ago
onlytruth,
Practice makes perfect. The fact that your or his or my English is not good enough is all the more reason why we should use it more. Don't be such a closed minded person.
upload388 3 years ago
kao,
Please don't frame it a 台灣 vs the mainland thing.
There are unreasonable people everywhere and even the most reasonalbe people sometimes say unreasonalbe things. Let's debate the merits of his logic rather than going the easy route of stirring shit up between the people across the strait.
upload388 3 years ago
u get reason, there are a lot of people like him, so proud for his English, asking others "Do u know English?" all I want to state is "why he thinks people understanding English are better than those who don't know about it" In my opinion, language is just a tool, ask others " Do u know English? Taiwanese English is so poor!" this is a discrimination, a result of colonisation!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
My grand-pa can speak 6 languages, but he told me " that presents ur country is too weak, ur mother tongue is not current! " if u read the context carefully, ur find that "it was Mr. onlylie who stared this Flame, China vs. Taiwan, " But u got reason, after all, I shouldn't have replied him and continued this stupid comparison, sorry about it! sincerely!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
upload388, I don't understand how people get the notion of someone is actually trying to tease them about their language skills by simply asking "Do you know English?". I am utterly shock and disbelieving of the level of immaturity that was shown by kaoyuehhui. And somehow, kaoyuehhui interpreted my remarks as "discriminating and a result of COLONISATION!" What the hell?!?!?! lol, I find his comments can be really amusing sometimes.
onlytruth19 3 years ago
Well, maybe I should apologize for the fact that I didn't know kaoyuehhui's grandpa can actually speak SIX languages! I mean, wow...isn't it astonishing that some people just can't stop boosting themselves. C'mon, why don't you tell us how many cars and houses you own, kaoyuehhui. But he is not the only one, it is the type of society that contains them actually breeds this kind of endless self-boosting habit.
onlytruth19 3 years ago
I admit that sometimes I did try to point out the fact that many Taiwanese can not get the first hand stories most of the time simply because they have poor command of English. It's true! They have to rely on their own mainstream media to present the news to them in mandarin. But what they don't know is that, news could have been filtered or distorted before it reaches their eyes and ears.
onlytruth19 3 years ago
Calling me "onlylie" and accusing me of starting this whole China vs Taiwan thing? I have 5 words for him, "You are full of shits!". Sometimes, I wasn't upset about them being ignorant about the truth. These people are actually well aware of the truth, but they just choose to stand by the Devil...that's all.
onlytruth19 3 years ago
mais on dit plutôt les chinois méritent pas Démocratie comme y a plein de gens comme vous en Chine!
répondez moi pas! évidemment, on parle pas la même langue! by the way, how great u are since u konw Indonésien! bravo à vous sincèrement!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
"大量漢人", How did you concluded that? or it just exists in you mind?
gavatuo 3 years ago
ne me mentez pas, j'ai déjà visité Tibet et s'il vous plaît, allez chercher les chiffre du gouvernement chinois, U lazy bone!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
如果是政府刻意以物质和职位激励入臧的,的确不妥(也只是部分不妥,因为很多是入臧的工程技术人员为西臧的基础建设出力,出于同样的原因,政府也往云南、四川、江西等任何一个省份派人);如果是因为市场经济的力量平民主动入臧做生意、找工作的,没有不妥。在一个"全球化"的时代,任何一个民族的文化纯净性都会受到挑战,保护民族文化往往只能通过"观念市场的竞争"来实现,而不可能---也不应该----以领土上的封闭性来实现。在这个问题上,臧民没有理由享受比其他55个民族更大的特权。事实上在任何多民族国家,都极少听说某个民族占据大片国土不许外族来居住的
gavatuo 3 years ago
如果是政府刻意以物质和职位激励入臧的,的确不妥(也只是部分不妥,因为很多是入臧的工程技术人员为西 臧的基础建设出力,出于同样的原因,政府也往云南、四川、江西等任何一个省份派人);如果是因为市场经济的力量平民主动入臧做生意、找工作的,没有不妥。在一个"全球化"的时代,任何一个民族的文化纯净性都会受到挑战,保护民族文化往往只能通过"观念市场的竞争"来实现,而不可能---也不应该----以领土上的封闭性来实现。在这个问题上,臧 民没有理由享受比其他55个民族更大的特权。事实上在任何多民族国家,都极少听说某个民族占据大片国土不许外族来居住的
gavatuo 3 years ago
kayyuehhui,
Aren't you 漢人 too?
Tibet is a part of China. All Chinese people get to move freely within the country. Which part of that don't you understand?
upload388 3 years ago
u bet! Iˋm han but in Taïwan, and I know what u want to explain for ur country, but do u know what's protection? I agree with u, u get all rights to move, but if the immigration is too many, the résidents will take it for a threaten, especially for their culture,the chinese gouvernment protect others minoritis why not Tibetans? Didn't u find something wrong over there?
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
(con't) attention needs to be paid to managing the tensions created by rapid changes which the Chinese government seems to have not done a particularly good job at in this instance.
BTW, the Tibetans don't really have much resentment towards the Hans in Tibet, unlike what the anchor-lady Chen has asserted here. Rather, most of the Tibetan resentment is towards the Hui, because of their historic beef and some of the perceived arrogant ways the Huis have treated the Tibetans.
upload388 3 years ago
If u really think that Tibetans are also Chineses, a minority in China, would u agree so many immigrants "han" to change this special place? I think all people need dignity and proudness for their culture, if u really want to change something or to immigrate han, it's better to ask for an agreement of Tibet!
kaoyuehhui 3 years ago
Change is how cultures evolve. The Han Chinese ways have changed quite a bit too, especially recently mostly due to Western influence.
What some call changing the minority culture is actually how Tibetan culture has evolved and flourished. Sure like hell most Tibetans in Tibet, unlike the exiles, don't want to go back to the so-called culture of brutal serfdom where eye-gouging, limb-chopping, and skinning were common practice.
That said, I don't disagree with u on one thing, that is, more
upload388 3 years ago
--$1-*-_ Kosovo Independence and Tibet Terrorism was a conspiracy to hurt both Russia and China because Russia and China are blocking United States from bombing Iran and ceasing US Imperialism on oil rich countries. Bush alrd started new Iran war campaign!
--$1-*-_ 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated by US government with the help of Japanese government!
--$1-*-_ /watch?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw
--$1-*-_ America is trading thousands of American soldiers and millions of innocent lives of others for OIL!
onlytruth19 3 years ago
民族问题很危险,如果谁要来挑拨的话,要面对有13亿人口的统一文化民族的压力。
hing1378 3 years ago
美国是当今世界进步的一个毒瘤,所谓的民主自由只是各敲门砖而已,大门打开之后才可以愉快的获取利益,如果相信美国民主自由的鬼话,可能连自己的葬身于何处都是各问题。
伊拉克就是各活生生的教材。用谎言作敲门砖,欺骗了美国人也毁了伊拉克。在伊拉克人的血肉建立起的"民主"有价值吗?美国最感兴趣的是伊拉克的石油,所谓民主只是个招牌而已,否则,在大规模杀伤性武器杳无踪迹之时如何才能继续赖在伊拉克呢?
此次西方世界某些媒体面对藏独分子烧杀抢砸,为什么集体编造谎言,指鹿为马颠倒黑白心口雌黄,其做法与美国入侵伊拉克的方式一模一样。可见,某些媒体颠倒黑白的做法并不是不小心做了错事,而是刻意为之。相似的事件发生在美国德国法国等西方国家,他们的政府可没有这么克制,西方的媒体可曾为抗议者冠以起义等好听的名字吗?
当西方肢解南斯拉夫的时候,他们可曾有过怜悯之心,替反抗者说过一句令人感动的话。最近他们集体努力有创造了一个国家,名字叫科索沃。不过害人总归会害了自己。合谋肢解别国的某些国家,自己也面临着分裂的前景,当分裂降临到他们头上时,看他们如何处置。是欣然接受呢,还是血淋淋的镇压。让我们拭目以待。
oldmarktwen 3 years ago
什么民运人士,包括陈文茜,那里知道中国的国情,还不是卖身投靠西方强权谋图荣华富贵而已!
liyoulin 3 years ago
陳文茜的如意算盤我們還不知道,無非是大陸錢多人傻請速來,所以我們要三通,趕快去賺那幫傻人的錢。居然有人相信她是統派,腦子進水了吧。
看看他在鳳凰上的言論和在中天的言論就知道了,典型的騎墻派,見人講人話見鬼講鬼話。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
agree!she sucks
flyphoenixfly 3 years ago
http://img2.tianya.cn/photo/2008/3/30/7425298_4026383.jpg
Replace those bigger lower case letter with regular ones.
flyphoenixfly 3 years ago
為什麽這些所謂的僧人對著西方、境外記者言必稱"需要自由"?
中國政府難道禁止西藏的喇嘛們念佛經了??
中國政府對西藏的喇嘛們進行身理、心理的迫害了??
似乎這些人的醜態也不是出家人的應該持有的吧?
lhbin2394 3 years ago
藏民很多是宗教狂热人士,他们所谓的"自由",其实只是宗教迷信,以及宗教极权。
假如达赖被武力藏独路线取代,也许是件好事。因为200万藏人,即使武装起义,也不可能成功。而且,解决争端的最传统做法---- 战争,也许就是最公平的解决方案。
bettercn 3 years ago 3
达赖喇嘛有什么智慧和慈悲,他就是一个政治流氓,他做的哪点是佛教徒应该做的事情,现在世界哪个地方允许宗教来搞政治,不要那梵蒂冈来说事,梵蒂冈不算一个政治实体。达赖所发声明中就有很多自相矛盾的地方,他说他为一部分死亡的汉人祈祷,又说他们在西藏进行和平的示威。我想问那死了的汉人难倒是警察打死的???如果不是,那打死,杀死人的示威是和平的???所以他就是一个卑劣和撒谎的政治流氓。
同样的陈文茜也是一个过弃的政治流氓,她反对民进党是因为政治斗争失败了。但是她的言语无处不在地体现出民进党的本质,崇尚暴力和斗争,善用谎言和种族矛盾,而且最为卑鄙和无耻的是她还借用媒体的外衣来运作。如果说她是媒体人,她的公正性在哪?作为过弃的政客,她的良心何在?
true0606 3 years ago
8月以后,如果在闹,
一定要好好清洗一番。
hans2hurt 3 years ago
Why do they speak chinese????????????
cannot understand!
srtpsrtp 3 years ago
The scene is so familiar. Reminds me of 四個笨蛋312踢館的真相事件.
a group of 藏人 crying as victim, a guy from no where can speak Mandarin complains for them. How did they know foreign media will be there? who gather them together to protest? Don't you feel strange?
theasian45 3 years ago
愚民政治就是这么来的。 只断章取义说出对自己有利的部分
再加上移花接木的影片(做为新闻媒体者最重要的就是客观的报道)。
当你们批评笑讽民视和三立的时候自己却也做出这种事情,
真是五十步笑百步啊。
skyeyes0428 3 years ago 3
尼泊尔警察的镜头又出现了
wangzhe95 3 years ago
中国政府也要反思自己的政策,为什么废除奴隶制,奴隶主不满,怎么农奴也不满?花钱养着这些无所事事的喇嘛,他们却煽动暴力?信仰问题?中国人到国外谋生,没有照顾你开始一无所有,语言不便,文化差异的,的中国人都还过得不错。可在西藏,似乎即使照顾他们,他们也不行。不客气讲一个不知反思自强的民族很难存在下去。西方是有选择的"客观",流亡藏人只好隔一阵闹闹,好获得点好处,否则难以生存。还有达赖等高层把支持他们的钱贪污挥霍,下层流亡分子其实过得很惨。他们把自己的流亡困苦都算在中共头上,不反思自己和西方势力的问题。都觉着自己有理,可实际上这个世界是凭实力说话,伊拉克就是例子。藏独若真想有出路,得和解共生,否则有被淘汰的可能。
cyberbbb 3 years ago
装不出来啊,这手法跟六四一模一样,我懂了。至于那些说废除奴隶制的家伙,我认为这样的武力镇压,在另一个民族的眼睛里,这自然是一种侵略,尽管他造成了文明的突变,可这种文明本就是随着时间的推进,在民主与和平的温床下逐渐养成的。汉人要不想藏人分裂出去,不想分裂中华民族,就不要和中共起舞,否则压得紧了,总有一天要分裂。
22109009 3 years ago
不要把藏独和六四并提,你侮辱了六四
农奴制有铁一般的事实,也不是中共一家之言,如果你说那时西藏宝贵的文化遗产,要尊重保留,那么你秀逗了.
huruiduan 3 years ago
六四和藏独都算对专制政体的反抗,他们有一定相似之处,中共在处理这种问题的手法上也是大同小异,剪接媒体、封锁言论。只不过六四被镇压的是汉人,藏独被镇压的是藏人,如果有一套健全的民主体制,无论六四、藏独都不会如此激烈,反之,无论汉人还是藏人都会继续反抗共产党专政。
农奴制是包括俄国、中国西藏地区历史上的一个悲剧,但随着全球化,和对于世界的接轨,自由和文明会渐渐流入这些地区,中共只是为了阶级斗争、消灭信仰摧毁了农奴制,但并没有真正传播一种现代人的文明,即尊重、包容、谦虚、多元等等。
22109009 3 years ago
文革时期,全中国都没有尊重、包容、谦虚、多元,那么难道说现在中国也没有么?
再有,六四那是和平示威,藏独是暴力示威,而且我真不觉得是示威,拉萨那帮人,很多人连雪山狮子旗都不打出来.
说实话,中共真的是一个进步很快的政党,既然国民党能民主化,为什么中共以后不可以?
huruiduan 3 years ago 3
至少我看到的很少,中国很多人很老实,但是那些有钱的大多是坏人,什么包二奶、大哥、二哥的。许多事情人大多跟执政党站一边,有独立思考能力的人一般不敢说话。而且不允许民办媒体,如此来说,怎么能信任共产党的所谓崛起呢?
我同意镇暴这些暴徒,但中共应该想想有效的措施,像是跟多次言明不独立的达赖喇嘛谈判,这样才能消除西方的疑虑 嘛。
我承认他进步很快,但他没有从制度上解决中共本身的权力独大的问题,包括宪法里的一党专政、多党合作的说法。中共里的利益集团互相绑架、利用,真正有改革意愿的人也陷在里面,谁愿意失去权力呢?我希望他可以真正政治改革,但我认为在大多数人盲目的情况下,没有压力,他改革不起来。
22109009 3 years ago
是吗?那最大的民主国家,经常以人权卫士自居的美国为什么还留在伊拉克,而不把政权还给当地人民?!
lyw4u2005 3 years ago 3
美国当然不对了!美国人也批评他嘛,媒体也批评,政客也施加压力。
但我见到批评中国政府的实在太少,更何况中国媒体是一边倒的,造假没关系,但媒体要从多个角度,多方立场去报道,而且互相监督。
我不同意你一提到民主就指着美国,中国要想想自己的进步。并不是美国不好、民主就不好,民主是为了大多数没有话语权的国民,而不是为了美国。
美国入侵伊拉克的历史意义到底如何,我想现在定义为时过早,如果未来伊拉克成为全世界伊斯兰教共和制度国家的典范,那美国也许是有功劳的。
22109009 3 years ago
本來很多大陸人對中共是很反感的,但是看到這幫民運的說法,大多人都轉回去支持共產黨了。所以我說,民運份子本身就是中共統治的助推器。
leonwuuk 3 years ago 2
我都快被那些民运气死了!没有一个政治家,没有一个人敢于站起来,没有一个去天天演讲,去天天宣传。他妈的,他们的同学都白死了!现在他们很空虚,去寻找信仰,什么竹林、明湖,已经脱离群众了。
群众运动脱离群众的时候,就已经失败了。他们失败了。
22109009 3 years ago 3
民運他們去宣傳,去演講?演講什么宣傳什么?你是不是想叫王力雄宣傳演講他的西藏獨立,反對中國政府鎮暴?曹長青去宣傳演講他的中共在西藏屠殺了100萬人和臺灣獨立?我真想求求這幫所謂的民運份子了,你們難道不知道正因為是你們的存在,才讓中國的民主化進程走的如此艱難嗎?
leonwuuk 3 years ago
最要命的問題是,大多數民運的主張,在大多數大陸人眼里就是漢奸和賣國的言論,而且還脅洋自重,犯了中國人的大忌。在中國,也許有很多人對中共也不滿意,但是非要在獨裁政府和漢奸政府兩個爛蘋果里挑一個,我想95%以上的大陸人還是會去挑選那個獨裁的政府。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
你调查过吗?我只是提我的观点,可你老是什么大多数,大多数的,中共什么时候真正问问大多数。
民运是民主运动的代名词,不代表六四团体、不代表民主墙、也不代表法轮功,是所有希望中国拥有民主制度人士的总称。这些人在国内被打压,没有话语权,出国了就更应该宣传自己的主张,演讲中国如何才能民主,民主的好处,中国与西方制度的差异、优势与不足育。什么大多数,难道为了大多数牺牲少数是对的吗!你去基层去听听现在对于独裁政府的评论,大多数人无语,少数人会偷偷告诉你意见。
22109009 3 years ago
拜托你能不能看懂別人的觀點呢?
民主運動是一項很神圣的運動,但是執行的人出現了偏差,所以讓民主運動在中國走的如此艱難。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
你总是说大多数,大多数,你怎么知道他们是大多数啊?有些国内的人上在电台Call in给中共提政治改革的意见,难道不算民主运动吗?只要实际行动做到了,都是算是运动。你口中的"执行的人"只是一些比较知名的代表。我只是觉得中国目前所谓的民运,即一些看出社会问题的朋友没有多去宣传、讨论罢了。
22109009 3 years ago
如果說是要求共產黨改革,那么中國大陸90%的人都是民主運動的支持者,本人也一定支持到底。但如果說民主運動需要以臺灣,西藏獨立作為代價,我想95%以上的民眾都會反對,就這么簡單。中國人還是把國家主權看在民主之前,這點我覺得我可以代表大多數中國人。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
是啊,这是共识啊。我希望他们去宣传民主,那你凭什么在前面说我希望他们去宣传藏独、台独呢?
22109009 3 years ago
你凭什么给我扣帽子,说我是"民运人士",你所谓的这个"民运人士"我是不敢当的,还有"你们这些"这类词语,请你谨慎使用,说话要负责任。
我认为说话前要调查,否则只能说这是自己的观点,请你:1不要以自己的观点衡量大多数,2不要给别人扣帽子,扭曲别人的话,比如我说那些民运人士没有一个政治家,我指的国内出来的、拥抱民主思想的人,很少有人出面演讲、在华人圈里游说,你却把我说的民运人士理解成藏独、法轮,反而说我不理解你。请问民运人士不是宣传民主的吗,如果他反而去宣传暴乱、分裂,他们还叫"民运人士"吗?3,我说中共怕造反,是我自己的观点;你可以说是那是面子问题,可后来加一句:没有你想的那么愚蠢,我真的很讶异。我从来没说过大陆人愚蠢,也没想过这个问题,因为我就是大陆人,当然我也不说大陆人聪明,因为我没有资格,反而你有吗?你总是说什么代表大多数,可你一没有调查,二自己打繁体字,我本身就怀疑你不是大陆人,你根本不了解大陆,你怎么代表大多数呢?恐怕是猜测吧。
虽然我们立场不同,但互相谅解,在网路发帖子请发对于事态的评论,而不要做人身攻击,或来猜测别人的观点,用你的猜测来否定别人。仅祝身心健康,共同进步。
22109009 3 years ago
如果中共告訴中國大陸人有92共識就會有人造反,那么大陸人不是白癡是什么?那么大陸人會因為了這個承認所謂92共識造反嗎?當然不會。那很明顯就是你說錯了,我糾正你說錯了的東西,有必要那么大反應嗎。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
你去看看我有没有提到一个"九二共识"!你不识字吗?我说的造反跟你理解不一样,有什么错误。再说一遍,在回应我的时候,"你"就是说"我","你们"包括"我",你在给我的回应里叫"你们这些"就是在给我扣帽子。检查你的言行,也不要总说那些类似带精确数字的言论。
22109009 3 years ago
不知道相信誰的 保佑西藏和平吧
d3561166 3 years ago
如果不想和平就去搞你的暴力好了。
漢人有13億,藏人兩百萬,自己看著辦,愛咋咋地。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
如果不想和平就去搞你的暴力好了。
漢人有13億,藏人兩百萬,自己看著辦,愛咋咋地。
leonwuuk 3 years ago
哎,可怜得西藏,希望能早点自治!!
jyjj1103 3 years ago
文茜,你的節目怎麼可以反復播放藏民示威在尼泊爾受到鎮壓的鏡頭而不給出說明,這可能會誤導觀眾!!!
lazyliu 3 years ago 9
李敖有话说:西藏问题!
user/nicholasshang
欢迎大家去看看!
gavatuo 3 years ago
文茜,你的節目怎麼可以反復播放藏民示威在尼泊爾受到鎮壓的鏡頭而不給出說明,這可能會誤導觀眾!!!
lazyliu 3 years ago 8
Many thanks!
gavatuo 3 years ago 2
还给这些喇嘛们作为奴隶主的自由,谁来捍卫占人口90%的被解放出来的奴隶们的自由。
OGW2008 3 years ago 2
在共产党废除西藏的奴隶制之前,大大小小的喇嘛们就是大大小小的奴隶主,达赖喇嘛就是这些奴隶主的总头目。
OGW2008 3 years ago 4
喇嘛们要的自由就是还给他们作为奴隶主的自由!
OGW2008 3 years ago 4
Thanks for uploading the video!
phlkid 3 years ago 2