African Diaspora in Iran ( New documentary: Afro-Iranian Lives)

[baadindyan]

While it is true that the original arab is closely related to the horn african ethiopic type, also in continuum with the genetic group unique to indian subcontinent that is the ancestral south indian, I doubt this iranian guy is of that type of pure arab descent. Not to mention he starts playing music from his south part of iran and the rhythms sound unmistakeably east african, as in zanji.

[baadindyan]

I've got an iranian friend from the south of iran. He has very curly hair like an afro, and his skin tone is a dark brown. I asked him if he knows if he's of african ancestry, but he denied it, claiming arab admixture is strong in southern iran. I would figure there would be a lot of denialism from african decent people in the middle east just due to history as slaves

[solidfox13]

look who it is.Yay

[missexi718]

Amazing video but only one human race but it is three human races. Long time ago earth used to have walk over land before earthquake. The three human races walked over to Africa, China, south America etc and when they had babies, their babies became mixed and not just during slavery for first time it was before slavery. I don't want to debate but take the DNA

[SuperBUBIES]

very interesting

[dnvr3]

Arghh damn Arab Invasion =.( Let Persia be Persia and let the people be the people again

[krucialred26]

They cannot deny the African-Americans that are Hebrew!

[tehutimes1]

Whats so amazing about any Black-African base of Arab folks? The so-called"Arabian Penisula was connected to Africa for eons until the Suez Canal was built.

Elamites & Sumerians being Black Kingdoms in Iran & Iraq long ago plus Colchis in Black Sea region of "White Asia"are more cultures to study.

[Quranite]

Good video about the originally black Arabs. The author of this video believes that the original Elamites of Souther Persia were also black. I tend to believe him on this, although it would take alot of work to distinguish them from black Arab settlers to the region as well as swahili settlers who have become apart of the southern persian mileu

/watch?v=uBPDzmkM4qY&feature=s­ub

[Dieutogo321]

@Quranite dumbass afro centrist lol

[Quranite]

Some of these so called Afro-Iranians might just be pure blooded Arabs that moved to Iran long ago.

[chsn09]

@Quranite Arabs are NOT a race lol. The original Arabs just like Jews are Semites or Semetic groups.

But Arab eventually encompassed different cultures and African slaves were imported via the Arab/Islamic slave trade which went on for thousands of years.

So these people are Afro Arabs. Arab has become a cultural umbrella term

[Quranite]

@chsn09 It is always funny to talk to someone who has not read the actual texts. You are right that Arab is not a race, but the original Arabs and all their lineages before the prophet Muhammad and during early Islam were BLACK. They were Aboriginal Arabians closely related to continental Africans. Slaves from Africa trickled into Arabia until European colonialism. Then it grew under the British. There are SOME black Arabs of African descent, but Arabs with purer lineages can ONLY be Black!

[chsn09]

@Quranite Ok now I just see that YOU are an Afrocentric racialist. Peace unto you. Arabs were NOT black originally.

[Quranite]

@chsn09 Have you read Lisanul-Arab? Then keep your lies, conjectures and ignorance to yourself. If ever you would like the truth I'd be glad to send you the quotes and where to find them on your own. Find someone who can read Arabic to verify it for you. Otherwise, hush. The ignorant should not opine. I am no Afro-centrist just a truth-loving, falsehood-hating God-loving and Quran-loving Muslim. If I'm an Afro-centric than i guess the Lisanul-Arab and its sources are too! They said it!

[chsn09]

@Quranite Arabs were NOT black. Are you going to say that Berbers and Moors were Black then? LMFAO.

Are you going to say that Egypt was black then? Also again who and what is black? Black is ambiguous. YOU need to define that.

Arabs were NEVER black. Blacks eventually later on did mix with Arabs or adopted their culture through contact and slavery but the original Arabs were NOT black

[Quranite]

@chsn09 Again do you want to see the sources? You can spat off at the mouth all you want, but you are running away from the sources. Do you speak Arabic? Laught all you want, that is what ignoramuses do when confronted with truth. Again, do read Arabic? Do you know anyone who does that will translate the sources that I will gladly show you if you'd like. I gave you how to look these thnigs up, but if you want me to spoon feed you I will.

[Quranite]

@chsn09 The Arabs were originally black. You hating that fact doesn't make it any less of a fact.

[Quranite]

@chsn09 If you don't believe me, check out Tariq Berry's book and Dr. Wesley Muhammad's Book. Just Google the authors. If you don't believe them, well I hope you atleast can read and understand Arabic. Go to albaheth on the net and look in lisan al-arab for: sawd, haa (soft), baa (specifically suhub), khaa', dawd, raa (khudrah), sawd, faa, raa (sufr/sufrah), alif, dal, meem (al-udmah and aadam) and haa (hard), meem, raa (ahmar, humr/humrah). Otherwise don't make opinions without knowledge.

[iprotecttheguilt]

I like this video. I am proud to be Iranian and African

[Quranite]

@iprotecttheguilt Don't assume African origin. You may be an original Arab who moved to Persia. Many Arabs did this. Some mixed heavily and then moved back to Arabia.

[Zappowx]

Interesting i wish to visit Iran and see for myself

[shapingo]

Did Darius the Great and Xerxes bring the Africans to Persia?

[hagnuj]

@shapingo all black is not african

[WinkyMaeve]

@shapingo yes many africans joined the persian army

[nimrooo]

@shapingo

The Portuguese brought black ppl as slaves in the 1500's (they were trying to colonize Iran). Arabs were also famous for slavery so they could have come from the surrounding African countries as well.

[Quranite]

@nimrooo The Arabs before the 1500's WERE black, on the most part. They were mixing heavily, but the purer lineages remained black.

[dvy45]

@shapingo no the Persians exclusively banned all form slavery throughout their empire, they did not own any slaves

[shapingo]

@dvy45 I never said the Africans were slaves?!? Where did you get that? I just asked if the Africans joined the Persian army.

I like Persian music and history. This was informative to me.

[chsn09]

Excellent video! I want to see this documentary

[nek2728]

these people are african that the portugese brought them as slaves to iran

[Afsaneh101]

calm down people :P

[Blackpower718]

Those were da Black Elamite Kings & the warriors that built da Hindu Kush empire

[Quranite]

@Blackpower718 These people may be a mix of original Black Arabs who imigrated there, original Elamites and Swahili colonists. It is very unlikely that they are ancestors of slaves, although some African slaves did make it to that area.

[nikaoam]

@frownstrong

The first human populations of Iran were "Ethiopian Negritos" (Blacks of the Pygmy type) and "Proto-Austroloids" (Blacks of the Australian type). These were the same types that also originally occupied India and all of southern Asia before the Aryan & Mongolian intrusions of their lands.

[BigPreme]

@nikaoam You beat me to it. I was just about to post that something. Many of these people that they try to pass off as "Africans" are Africans in the since that their forefathers came from African but, we are talking THOUSANDS of years ago. They were there before the asiatic types came down and mixed with them. A good book to read is "Memories of Cuneiform" by Rawlinson where he says he believes the original people of Elam were Negro/Beja types (not the pygmy type) but a black/ethiop type.

[persiandudeee]

@frownstrong Most of the Darked skinned people in Iran are Dravidian (Indian descendant people) not Africans, though there are Africans in iran they are a very small minority descendant of slaves who were freed by the Persian/Iranian empires or fled to Iran from the Arabs, cause Why do you think Saudi Arabia is 20% black?

[PharaohII]

@persiandudeee do you KNOW WHERE THE DRAVIDIAN PEOPLE OF INDIA COME FROM!! AWW CAUSE IF YOU DID YOUR STUPID IGNORANT ASS WOULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT AFRICAN!! matter of fact THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF SOUTHERN ASIA WHERE BLACK!! The original INHABITANTS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE THE SAME RACE OF THE JARAWA TRIBE including only a TWO other races share a common DNA WITH THEM and guess who those are? TIBETANS AND JAPANESE PEOPLE. =D now hows that for a historic lesson!

[persiandudeee]

@PharaohII If Dravidian's are Africans, then Chinese are Europeans because they have light skin. Their facial features are totally different. Anyways, i don't really care, just telling u facts.

[Alara0625]

@PharaohII

All you have to do is show them the statues down in Bali and in Cambodia and in Tibet and in Sri lanka on the Island of Ceylon. Show them Borobodor in Indonesia. Those statues don't depict Europeans or Asiatics, they depict the African in all his glory. The British Museum has many of these statues for PRIVATE EXHIBITS. The Statues of the original Buddha is even more proof to uphold your claim. Dravidians and Africans differ only on one strand of DNA

[hagnuj]

@PharaohII why does black have to be african. the whole racial grouping could be wrong.

[malika810]

so how did these africans get to Iran?

For example theres very few africans in Pakistan-they came as slaves with the brits, or some had jewish ancestry and travelled to the indian subcontinent along with other jewish tribes.

so whats their story as how they got to iran? thank you. i find this very interesting.

[Sphynx2001]

Could someone give some informations about the music?

[nikaoam]

"YET, THE OWNER OF THE CANE, THE MASTER OF THE CITADEL, WAS BLACK. IT IS THEREFORE HIGHLY PROBABLE THAT ELAM WAS RULED BY A BLACK DYNASTY &, JUDGING BY THE FEATURES OF THE FACE ALREADY DESCRIBED, AN ETHIOPIAN DYNASTY...."

Or, to put it in more simple language, THE ORIGINAL IRANIANS WERE BLACK. ;-)

[nikaoam]

"These came from a panel depicting a personage superably dressed in a green robe with yellow, blue, and white embroidery. He wore a tiger skin and carried a cane or a golden spear. MOST SURPRISING OF ALL, THE PERSONAGE WHOSE LOWER JAW, BEARD, NECK & HAND I FOUND WAS BLACK....Only powerful personages had the right to carry long canes & wear bracelets. Only the governor of a fortified post could have his image embroidered on the tunic.

CONT.

[nikaoam]

The following quotation is from the pioneering study entitled 'The Acropolis of Susa' by the man widely considered as "The Founding Father of Iranian Archaelogy, M. Marcel Dieulafoy:

"On removing a tomb across a raw-brick wall which was part of the fortifications of the Elamite gate, the workers uncovered a funeral urn. The urn was encased in a masonery covering composed of enamelled bricks.

CONT.

[FreshInDeath]

very cool

[iwoof4u]

They are bandar abbasis and they share a culture simmiliar to that of Omanis.

Not all of them are black, their colors can range from black to dark brown and light brown. some of them even share features with northern persians.

[chsn09]

But they are black ! They are of African descent ! Yes many of them are mixed with Arab and perhaps Jewish or other ancestries but they are identified with or identify with their predominantly East African heritage !

[iwoof4u]

Yes and many of them got mixed with persians, that's why now it's common to see natural persian features on some of them (like the eyes, nose, eyebrows and such) not all of them but some of them.

[SCONIERS2007]

@iwoof4u I have seen plenty of Iranians very diverese in skin tone,hair & facial features. If you ask a White Supremecist they wouldn't identify with a Persian because a white supremist believes that they are the original Aryans which means that they are decendants of blonde haired-blue eyed people, and the only pure race on earth. Hmm that would most def not fit the typical Iranian now would it. SO I ask again, what is the natural feature of a Persian after hundred of years of racial mixing?

[iwoof4u]

I don't know, as a matter of fact I've been trying to get the same answer from other persians with no luck.

There are some videos here on youtube with title's like TRUE ARYAN IRAN and such, type the words and search, you'll see pics of northern iranian villagers with blue/green eyes and light colored hairs, but even thet skin don't look as white to me. Persians have great desire in being associated with countries like Germany and the states, so they keep claiming to be white.

[sn00piedog]

@SCONIERS2007 A pure bred persian looks like any Arab wandering the desert. But as you stated after long years of mixing you know have some so called " PURE PERSIANS" who have blonde hair and blue eyes.

[persiandudeee]

Iranians were never blonde haired blue eyed, nor were they black Africans. If you look at the ancient statues of Iranians/persians of the achaemenid, PArthian and sassnian persian dynasties and compare them to the average Iranians today, you'll see that they have the same facial features. Btw, Aryan isn't associated with any race, it just means a noble people, refering to the Persians cause they were considered noble by themselves and others.

[Persiannationalist]

Umm ok?

[AlmazB]

Denial is NOT the name of a River. I had the opportunity to live there when I was very young and was exposed to the African culture of Southern Iran. It so sad that people want to curse you out and call you names when they have probably never been there themselves.I remember being on a plane years ago and people were saying negative things about this black woman on the plane in Farsi and she got up to announce to everyone how stupid they were in FARSI. They were stunned because she spoke well

[molezay]

Iranian are the best in iran in everywhere.we are not racist ,tha 's why we have different ethnics in our country without any fight againts them like persians,turks,kurds,turkemans­,etc ........

[muziquelle]

that doesn't make any sense. and by saying iranians are the best, you ARE being racist. nezhad parast!

tell me, if Iranians are so tolerant, why are arabs and turks the butt of every joke?!

[AlmazB]

Why don't you do the same likewise. OH when you can't do anything else then we resort to vulgar language. How obtuese and traite

[Persiannationalist]

Interesting vid, but the first pic of the old man seems to be of a baluch and not a african... seing how he has straight hair and all.

[SCONIERS2007]

All Africans don't have kinky hair. It's one of the largest continents in the world. Don't you know how many races of people and ethnicities are in Africa? You would serve yourself better if you studied. Thats like americans saying that all persians wear towels on their heads and are dark skinned terroist. Don't minimize us blacks to what you think you know of us.

[xolang]

It should be "Not all Africans have kinky hair". And you're right. In many parts of Africa, the Horn being a major example, curly hair is common, and on Madagascar many people actually have naturally straight or wavy hair, due to Austronesian ancestry.

[SCONIERS2007]

I stated All Africans because thats what I meant to state. I know that "Not all Africans have kinky hair, and I made that statement due to the fact that I knew some people would bring the horn of africa into the picture, however the horn of africa is only a small part of the entire continent, so I made the statement "All Africans because that encompasses the entire african diaspora and all of it's decendants, including the asian negrito.

[chsn09]

Yes you are right ! Africa is perhaps the most diverse region and continent on the earth/world ! There are naturally light skinned Africans who are NOT mixed! They are of a purity race or skin tone !

There are also non European indigenous white africans mainly in and around North Africa !

AFRICA is very diverse and it has beautiful cultured people !

[termanology85]

@chsn09 who are these naturally light-skinned Africans who are not mixed? and how do you know they were unaffected by racial admixture?

[chsn09]

@termanology85

I never said that these blacks were unmixed or affected by racial mixture ! Some were and some were not !

Many of the blacks brought to the Middle East and Asia as a result of the ARAB SLAVE TRADE that took place more than 1,500 years ago mixed with many different ethnic groups and plus East Africans are somewhat different from West Africans

[mozadek1]

You moron, everyone knows the Moors were black!

The Byzantine empire was BLACK!

You damn Devils only came into your power with Alexander the greek, so check your facts!

Damn nitwit!!

[chsn09]

@mozadek1

You are a moron ! I never said that the Moors were not BLACK !

I said many people believe and so they were not a exactly black ! I believe they were black so I don't know where you got your moronic ideas from !

[A86]

@chsn09 - Some of them were black but many were not.

[Latinsoul65]

The Berbers who are indigineous to North Africa are a Meditteranean people they are not of the Black/Negroide race.

DNA has shown that they are related to most of the meditteraneans like southern Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese etc.

It is said that the Ancestors of the Berbers were a nomadic tribe that traveled from what is called now "Yemen" to North Africa.

The ancestors of most of the Meditteranean people stem from the Middle east .

[chsn09]

@Latinsoul65

Yeah, I have studied this and heard this! Many anthropologists and historians argue and debate over this!

I have to study into this more! no pun intended!

But also people argue about whether the Moors are "Black/Negroid"! People have even argued that the Australoids race people might be Negroids!

yes many Meditternanean natives people are related! Like Jews and Arabs are BOTH Semitic peoples!

But North Africa has been considered WHite/Arab or just simply WHITE!

[nonayobizness]

@Latinsoul65 all of these people have roots in Africa. Africa is the birthplace of civilization.

[SCONIERS2007]

I still give you a thumbs up though...

[persiandudeee]

@SCONIERS2007 Of-cource all Black people have kinky hair, except if you count Indians, and it's due to the hot environment of Africa, if you don't have kinky hair or an Afro then you're most likely mixed. As for towels on our heads, those are Indians, Americans are just way too stupid and simple minded to tell the difference, hence why they're a joke around the world.

[habalayo]

@persiandudeee my friend is dark african girl and her hair i swear is like indian hair tall silky so dont judge buddy.

[persiandudeee]

@habalayo there are also white with thick ass or curly hair, but that's a minority, most Have straight hair and that's what defines their features and looks. same goes for Africans, and your friend sproabbely mixed anyways. Lots of semites, and europeans in africa.

[nikaoam]

@persiandudeee "there are also white with thick ass or curly hair, but that's a minority,". THEY TOO ARE "SPROABBLY MIXED ANYWAYS." Lots of Blacks lived in ancient & medviel Europe.

[danielkachal]

@SCONIERS2007 i'm Iranian , and i have no idea what he's saying :))) I think he's talking about ARABs ....cause if any African wants to reach iran , he or she has to pass Egypt , then Saudi Arabia and then Iraq or Kuweit....and BTW non of Persian wear towels on their heads .. Towel on the head is for Arabs in south part of Iran..

[jimilli09]

@SCONIERS2007 And even within one African ethnicity it is possible to find individuals with so called European features....

[unique5589]

@SCONIERS2007 I totally agree with you. And some Black people have a tendency to perpetuate this misconception.

[chsn09]

@SCONIERS2007 I totally agree

[risteard01]

@SCONIERS2007 too true.

[AlmazB]

And and how the hell do you know about my life just by looking on my page there are lots of Iranians in the Diaspora that are products of Mixed Marriages DUDE. and I have lived in Iran. So again YOU maybe need to learn something.

[AlmazB]

Who says I am talking shit about my own people. Again this is a fact that again YOU and others don't want to acknowledge. Pure and simple. Just like that is racism and zenophobia in the States it happens in other places also.

[AlmazB]

Excuse me I probably lived and been to Iran more times than you. I have HALF Iranian. Thank G-d

[AlmazB]

Humm My MOTHER is Iranian and I have lived in Iran for almost 10 years as a child she is from Shiraz but I grew up in Africa Yes I DO know very much about Iran

[persiandudeee]

The African Iranians are decendant of the slaves who escaped Arabs and settled in Iran.... Though there isn't a big community of them in Iran.

[rotena25]

@persiandudeee Every black person living in the asia, europe or america are there because they came as slaves lol. Thats the same bullshit I hear from you racist.

[persiandudeee]

@rotena25 You're an idiot, the Arabs were the one's who had blacks as slaves then they fled to Iran cause Iran was against slavery, even during its Islamic times. In fact, the other group of Africans living in Iran were freed from the Portuguese by the Persians/Iranian when they went to war with Portugal. Search this up and stop barking out of your ass.

[parandehdarya]

they are very good people and speak persian with funny african accent

i like them :)

[AlmazB]

This is a lovely piece considering how most Iranians are so ignorant to the fact that Blacks are part of the Persian Landscape also. Keep up the wonderful work

[persiandudeee]

Dude, you're ignorant for judging all Iranians.

[AlmazB]

Who says I was judging ALL Iranians I said MOST. MOST are Ignorant or do not accept or acknowledge that fact. I know this to be true when I an in Iran and out of Iran dealing with Iranians. They only think of Iran as White/ so-called Aryan when only 50% are really persian so many are Azeris. Kurds Turkoman. Baluchis etc.

[IranMarzban]

@AlmazB

90 % of Iran are racially Iranic and closely related to each other.

80% of Iran speak Iranic languages

[malfini1]

@IranMarzban What does it mean to be racially Iranic. Has a genetic analysis of the people been done?

[IranMarzban]

@malfini1

it means that according to tests there is no difference between Iranians, they all have same genetics, beside that, they speak same group of languages (Iranian languages), and their culture is close to each other.