PoliticsTV @ Yearly Kos '07: Debate Part III

[CantSpeakFrench]

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[acboy1295]

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[Sam666gelber]

What an idiot Clinton is. How can she have the nerve to say lobbyist represent real Americans. If they did she shouldn't be taking money from them anyways. I hope to god that she is not our next president. Vote Paul, Gravel, or Kucinich, but not her.

[abudi20]

Some lobbyists do represent real Americans dumbass. Not everything is black and white. Moron.

[Sam666gelber]

Sure. I know there are humanitarian lobbyist and that's all fine and dandy, but Clinton is taking money from the Drug and HMO lobby, who represent real American crooks. So she has the nerve to say that some lobbyist represent real Americans without saying which ones she's taking money from.

[fxjkhr]

Lobbyist have an agenda? No shit, sherlock.

[genYprogressive]

Hillary Clinton = Bush/Cheney lite.

[nesnman]

I hate politics. This country is divide and I'm sick of it. Each party blames the other. Remember how much we were united after 9/11? Why can't we all grow up and get back to th

[youngsinfo]

Wow- he said. politicians and money

[wilburjr]

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[winserfer]

Is that a Soviet star in the background? How appropriate.

[democlean]

Barack Obama Rocks

[maranelloboy]

Wow what a lively debate!!!!!

Dennis and Mike are superrrrr

[Neptune30]

Dennis Kucinich is the man!!!!! Go Dennis

[b9keith]

"Maybe the people who think there's a conspiracy out there are right," - Peter DeFazio (member of Congress and Homeland Security)

[Datalynx]

OMG LETS ALL MAKEOUT

[linguy22]

I am voting for DENNIS KUCINICH

[lanilani06]

Kucinich is the only one who WANTS and will deliver.

[mikram85]

Richardson!!!

[soldieratheist]

vote for mike gravel, he has a good plan, and isnt adraid to put it in play. just look at his track record.

[mickey436]

'people should only be afraid of their governments when the people have done something wrong' Thacther

[koskooi]

"When the people are scared of our government it is called tyranny. When the Government is scared of the people it is called Liberty" -Abraham Lincoln

[numesee]

Coining a new phrase "DEADBEAT MOMS NEED TO GET JOBS AND SUPPORT THIER OWN KIDS."

[CharlessMartel]

Thank goodness Rove took all the NSA files on you dirty rotten Progressive Communists with your porn and email support for Al Qaeda! Rove Communications Rocks!

[AdmiralJaneway]

just a bunch of lousy democrats

[mythexposer]

Actually Hillary does believe that Americans are idiots. Her husband assaults 2-3 women & rapes Juanita Broadrick & today she is #1 in the polls.The press fawns all over her & never ask her any hard questions. Didn't Stalin say "If you repeat a lie enough times, people will begin to believe it" The Clintons have proven that theory. Polls are showing that Hillary is getting 45-46% of the vote. These idiots are dumber than the O.J.jurists.

[zsocial]

do not trust these lying puppets.

[SteveBradle]

KOS is a members only online social club, dissenting views not allowed. Termed by kos as "disrupting" discourse, this deserves censorship. Dare comment outside of the prevailing liberal view of the world, you are flagged and can no longer comment. We've always known that liberals hate dissenting views, no surprise there. I'm guessing that regulation of talk radio will be their next goal, then on to TV, print and the pulpit. When they start burning books, you'll know thet kos-ism has "arrived" .

[valhala56]

it's like Sen. Gravel said it is usally the most corrupt "bought" politician that wins, also in the recipe is the most ammoral.

[maddymad3]

Does neone think Hilary would REALLY be the President? 4-8 more years of Slick Willy? Arrrrrrrgh!

[BattleofTours732]

Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, who chastised rival Barack Obama for ruling out the use of nuclear weapons in the war on terror, did just that when asked about Iran a year ago.

"I would certainly take nuclear weapons off the table," she said in April 2006.

[maluwelton]

i cant understand why people want hillary, she defends taking $ from lobbyist, lies thru her teeth that it doesnt influence her...its incredible...do we want another bought leader?

[andyj2287]

Thank you for promoting this!

Between the blogs and YouTube, the nature of politics is changing in this country. Taking control away from the news media and putting it in the hands of the American people.

[RoddyYoung]

Show of Hands is a great way to ask questions and then compare and contrast between the ups and the downs. Good questions then filter out the person with the best character. Sometimes it is hard to be true. Hands up lets people know who is for what. Answers take a long time. Hands up are quick and tell the public instantly over all persons what is the thinking of the candidate.

[andyj2287]

Haha, best example of this - Hillary Clinton the only one who blew off Alaska

[maddymad3]

Yeah, and Monica blew off Bill.

[coke20x]

Clinton has cute smile to hide her guile and a quick wit to disguise bulls@#%.

[PersonalJesus348]

didn't you say that the last 2 debates?

[therevolution2k7]

Edwards Obama!

[Geographer76]

Richardson is either a liar or he is totally ignorant on the subject of voter supression. Both sides are guilty. The 2000 election showed the case where there was voter suppression of minorities in some areas by Repubs, and Dems tried to shut out absentee ballots of soldiers. Both sides are guilty.

[TERRAN1212]

Kucinich!

[CrystalMystique]

little boys with big dreams...Hillary's got bigger balls than all of them. Edwards is annoying.

[todnyc]

i definitely agree. noitice how over-emotional and melodramatic each of the others gets when they talk: Gravel, Richardson, and Dodd all crescendo into an angry screed, while Kucinch babbles his unicorn-hugging bullsh*t, Edwards recites his pre-memorized index-card lines, and Obama babbles aimlessly, thinking he's Denzel Washington DC Hughley or some sh*t

[coolnarutopimp]

what ever they babble is better than what bush does he would not know a thing about the american public,now that is what is shameful

[todnyc]

ok, i can grant you that. but Hillary IS the one with the strongest and most cohesive strategy and vision--and she's got the mind for it.

[ryan16202]

Clinton says here that she takes lobbiest money. I don't like that.

[todnyc]

Barack is way too skinny to be prezident

[SupportTheWar]

lol nice.

[todnyc]

like....i dont even know how he's able to stand up straight with those milk-chocolate satellite dishes attached to his head. and as for his whole act, like being "Malcolm X on Prozac"? PLEASE...he's just Oprah's butt-puppet, and i bet she's planning to run for prez in 2012, don't say you didn't hear it here first, baby

[coolnarutopimp]

i am so sick of you people hating on people with money,get a life,leave oprah alonebush bouhgt the office why cany she

[Commando303X]

15:28 (but you have to watch what cames before [start at about 11:00).

[MooseOfReason]

Oh, man. Poor Obama getting interrupted by Dodd at 12:55. "D... dic dic dic dic." Hehe.

[Commando303X]

Man, Dodd's out of his mind (i.e., in how emphatic he is) in this piece. Is he taking hits of vodka in place of gulps of water or something...?

[librophile]

DEMOCRATS ...(P)rogressive .....For the (P)eople

REPUBLICANS .(C)onservative ....For the (C)orporations

[SupportTheWar]

Democrats (L)ibreals for (L)osing money.

[librophile]

Under the Bush's administration ... 190,000 weapons lost in Iraq and 67 million dollars unaccounted for !!! Who are the real losers of money here?? And what's a libreal?? Never heard of it.

[SupportTheWar]

Maybe you care about goverment money more than your own, but most of us value ours. Weapons lost and unaccounted money is an obvious side effect of WAR, and you know it, so I will not explain.

[eekdog2005]

Don't expect change when you vote for these top tier frauds! Democrats and republicans are two legs of the same DOG! And americans get fooled over and over again! Vote for real change!

[TheGreatExperience]

So how many times did they let Gravel speak?! Once, mayyyybe twice?

[Commando303X]

It's weird, though; not reall "unfair": he didn't even seem to be fighting for any time.

[librophile]

No matter how you slice it ... any of the Democrat presidential candidates far outweigh and outperform any of the Republican candidates ... by a l-o-n-g stretch !! No contest here !!

[BattleofTours732]

George Soros seems to be attacking Bush and America and encouraging defeat for the American Military. Could it be that he's bet on the Euro? Does he want the American dollar to collapse? Is George Soros trying to encourage another terrorist attack, so that he can make another couple of billion dollars when the U.S. currently collapses against the Euro or some other currency. Is that possible? Is that too far-fetched? Is it uncivil to ask those questions of a money trader?

[FreedomsPatriot]

More Demon-crook lies, we have all heard it before.

[cutis1000]

Clinton can't even come out and say she won't take any money from the D.C. lobbyists and special interests. She's pathetic. Well, at least she's honest.

[cutis1000]

But then Clinton says she would introduce a constitutional amendment creating a publicly financed election system in the United States if she were President. Where does Clinton stand?

[BattleofTours732]

White House Transcripts DURING CLINTON ADMINISTRATION:

President Clinton: Monica, Im going to slide this Macanudie cigar up your pussy. That bitch Hillary wont let me smoke it in the Oval Office so I need to use it somehow. Get ready, baby.

Monica Lewinsky: Mr. President, I want that BAD. But, your message on your desk says that the CIA wants to kill Bin Laden. Dont you wanna kill Bin laden?

President Clinton: Oh, Never mind that, this is more fun. Hold on, honey. HERE IT COMES!!!

[BattleofTours732]

(08-06) 04:00 PDT Washington -- President Bush signed into law on Sunday legislation that broadly expanded the government's authority to eavesdrop on the international telephone calls and e-mail messages of American citizens without warrants. Bush got his way! Hurray!

[FreedomsPatriot]

Wrong, it still only applies to foreigners calling into the US so get your propaganda straight.

[theore05]

Senator Obama is clearly the most vituous candidate up there. Hillary clearly is playing politics. Wake Up People!!! How can she clearly admit she will not succumb to lobbyists. Sad, but she is corrupt. Love Bill...but Hillary is a disappointment.

[opforusa]

love bill, dislike hillary? they're the same thing - you are strange...

[junkie4vids]

If you call threatening to bomb and de-stabilize Pakistan (a nuclear power) and having dinner with the world's tyrants as "virtuous", then Obama is virtuous in a dangerous sense. Also, please note that Hillary is Bill and Bill is Hillary. They are Billary.

[elfyboy]

Vote Hillary for Business As Usual: money from lobbyists, continued occupation of Iraq and that peculiar strain of Liberal paternalism that smugly believes THEY know what's best for YOU. Hillary is Bush in drag.

[todnyc]

Oh yeah Obama, you're so wise... See Part II of this debate and how he PLAGIARIZES Hillary about China: they're "our banker," they manipulate currncy, they dont abide by trade agreements--those are DIRECTLY from Hillary's DNC & Take Back America speeches, both on here.

[zoromaskcoming]

yeah and he so "brilliant" foreign policy, withraw from Iraq and invade pakistan and sudan, and bash on Australian PM. seems so wise person..isn't he? lol

[todnyc]

yeah, he's a freagin' jackass. did you heard how he pronounces Pakistan? "Pock-ee-ston" - WTF WUZZAT? the funniest is how in his first campaign announcement, he went "don't believe the HYPE" like he's gonna reach the American ELECTORATE by quoting Public Enemy lyrics from 1990. that dude is nothing BUT hype.

[abyrd2000]

Hillary will never say no to lobbyist-funded campaigning.

[joegrohens]

These candidates -- it's a a pretty fine array of gifted, well informed, clear thinking, hard working representatives of the people. Compare this to the guys running for the Republican nomination -- sheesh. I am proud that our country can produce a lineup like this. Any ONE of them would be great. In my opinion, Hillary is the most capable.

[todnyc]

it's true; the other candidates are just too naive. they know all the feel-good rhetoric that gets the guaranteed applause, but she's the only one who talks directly to the issue and clearly articulates what she will do. the others make such sweeping, grandiose promises it's not even funny.

[todnyc]

The biggest idiot up there is, without a doubt, Obama. He sounds like a high school freshman in student government, talking ENTIRELY in platitudes, and furthermore he always sounds like he's straining to get his (always-bland) "idea" out before he forgets it. Look at him holding out his hand to the moderator while everyone was applauding at something else. Complete immature novice.

[Xenu]

Clinton is so repulsive. She's a Republican. Why anyone other then them would vote for her is beyond me.

[Militiades88]

Rupert Murdock & Fox News likes Hillary so she can't be all bad.

[todnyc]

it's another case of that "famous and/or powerful person whom everyone loves to hate"...whether it's Bush & Cheney, or Madonna and Paris Hilton, it's the quintessential American phenomenon to have millions of adoring enemies who can't ever stop gossiping about you and giving you that free publicity.

[MazeCelsius]

Best and most positive debate to date imo.

[junkie4vids]

Pretty boy Edwards is too concerned about how his legs are crossed and if his teeth are white. Hillary has a shrill voice that will cause people to take sedatives. Obama's foreign policies are disasters.  Kucynich might as well be wearing a red star or hammer and sickle on his lapel. Homer Simpson is starting to look good in 2008.

[summergal07]

Ron Paul in 2008!  The others are all the same.

[roydk06]

This makes me feel so great that Hillary is not that popular with LIBERALS. She is indeed a true Moderate. Exactly what this country needs again.

[BelieveIt1051]

Hilary is considered moderate only because the leftists have moved so far left that they're communists now. Believe it!

Then that Congressman outright states that he will break the law, specifically the Logan Act, to campaign in foreign countries where he can't win votes. What a moron!

[maluwelton]

"what do you think about lobbyist?" clinton: "that is certainly a position that john takes" hahah

[elvisbelt]

Hillary Clinton - Satan's wife

[ashlarah]

An actual debate! Thank you YKos! And, thank you John Edwards for speaking for me.

[nilent]

Your attention please: Hillary Clinton just made news! (To me, at least) If elected, she commits to introduce a Constitutional Amendment to overturn the Buckley vs Valejo SCOTUS decision that equates speech with money!

I think we can get 100% public campaign finance without that; but it's nice to see that she's in favor of the idea in principle.

Gravel is right; they're all walking in the mud.

[nilent]

Your attention please: Hillary Clinton just made news! (To me, at least) If elected, she commits to introduce a Constitutional Amendmet to overturn the Buckley vs Valejo SCOTUS decision that equates speech with money!

I think we can get 100% public campaign finance without that; but it's nice to see that she's in favor of the idea in principle.

Gravel is right; they're all walking in the mud.

[horsearcher75]

Obama and Edwards ruled this discussion!

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[douglasrob]

Did Gravel fall off the end of the stage??? Why are the Dumbocrats so scared to let him speak???

[patsagainstrats]

Why no questions about Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, and his four children that are lobbyists?

[supergrassed]

May I counter that with a -

REPUBCANS BLOWS!

[ddnn2000]

yes, I agree I do not like repubicans too, But democrats are becoming the worst!

[sharonbarraco]

This isn't a high school football game! There are certain Democrats who suck and certain Republicans who suck. The basic Republican party beliefs do not suck. The people who represent them sometimes do!

[Kenacorn]

What exactly was so upsetting to you? I guess the drugs for my Down's Syndrome are not working. Well, Dennis is still way cool whether you like me or him or not!

[Eurobubble70]

Obama smacks down Clinton at 13min

[Kenacorn]

Clearly any one of them would be head and shoulders above any Republican. I just wish we all could get over the notion that Kucinich is unelectable because he's "short", "funny looking", or doesn't have access to big bucks, when he obviously speaks to the heart and soul of the values of not only Democratic voter, but also speaks positively about the direction we should be moving towards, not from.

[dundotta28]

Once again, Gravel got screwed with time allotment!

[roydk06]

Give 'em hell Hill !

[schratboy]

Nutroots of the world unite.

[E23R0]

Gov. Richardson's best debate thus far. Keep It Up!

[CarmelVegan]

i really hope that after all this talk recently about obama attacking pakistan, a nuclear power mind you, and with clinton refusing to stop taking lobbyist money, and edwards refusing to stop taking wall street money, that you realize dennis is the best choice. if you vote for obama, you are helping to set the stage for more war, only this time, with a country way more

powerful than iraq. no one but dennis 2008!

[DrunkKirby]

Obama said that he doesn't want to use nukes... not that he'll attack pakistan with nukes. As for the actual attack, he said he'd target high level al queda members there, if we knew they were there, ie bomb a cave, and that isn't any different from any other candidate out there.

[CarmelVegan]

I didn't say he'd use nukes. you have to realize, a mere attack on pakistan, who has nukes, may make them want to retaliate.

[DrunkKirby]

Pakistan isn't going to retaliate with nukes. A) they have no reason to retaliate, we didn't attack any government office, we didn't even attack civilians. B) They wouldn't risk blow back. We may not have troops to put on the ground, but we're half a century ahead of everyone else in air supremacy. Simply bomb a couple buildings, and Musharaff would be ousted by his own people.

[CarmelVegan]

i hope you all were paying attention to when clinton was put on the spot about accepting lobbyist money, she still couldn't spin her way out of that round of boos. look, you want change? real change? you have to agree that dennis kucinich is the only one that can delivery.

[likudguy77]

were you watching the same clip as me? she didn't need to spin her way out. she held firm to her beliefs and i agree with her. social workers, nurses, teachers, hotel workers and many other normal citizens depend on lobbyists fighting for their "special interests."

[kbuggy12]

LOL...Hillary Clinton just got owned by O8AMA!!!! Awesome!!!!

[afrolinda]

She sure did, but Dodd has a point when he says that there's no difference between a Chicago Lobb and a Washington one

[liveleaker]

Any one of the so-called candidates will look a money-totting lobbyist the same way: "Welcome!" If you think otherwise just try an get a meeting with one of them.