the most anti-feminist guys have the least luck with women. Don't hate women because you can't get a date! You most likely give off some kind of creepy vibe.
@gryphon50c Don't hate women because you can't get..."
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Is it even possible to hate women?
You can hate subsets of such an enormous group. But there's no way you can hate the entire group. You can try to hate it, you can even profess that you hate such a group.
But then you meet an individual of the hated group and you can really like that individual.
The person is real. The group is not real. The group exists only as an abstraction.
There is no thing on the Earth called 'men or 'women.'
"the most anti-feminist guys have the least luck with women."
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By extension, the most zealous adherents of any belief will have less reproductive success than run of the mill persons who lack strong opinions.
Ex: Engels was more popular w/ the ladies than Marx. But it's no wonder, since Marx couldn't stop talking about economics, while Engels knew how to relax after hours and have a good time.
Marx's brain was so big. It was mal-adapted to getting laid by 19 year old co-eds.
@Wytchfinde Well, when I first went out with him he had ZERO dollars and came from a white trash family (probably the kind you are familiar with). So, wrong again.
This makes me want to join a construction crew and make all sorts of cat calls! You are right they are not going after perverts they want us all to feel uncomfortable.
I had a look at that hollaback website, and is it just me, or does this constitute damages as a result of personal photos of these men being posted on a sexual harassment website? These men who are quite probably innocent of any wrongdoing, are being portrayed as predators. It fucking sickens me that sites like that are allowed to exist.
Actually, Hollaback constitutes libel and slander against men. Legally speaking, any citizen could easily charge it for libel and slander, as a civil suit, and get it to pay damages to the men it stalked and lied about.
I don't hate women. I am not prejudice against any gender, race, or creed.
But this third wave of feminism is damaging beyond belief.
It is a movement of victimhood, entitlement, and sexism. It gives both men AND women a bad name, and it degrades society across the board.
To you, TheEditorialist, I tip my hat. Keep speaking my friend, keep speaking, because you are becoming the voice of a generation of men. And I am proud to be a new subscriber of your channel.
Keep up the good work, these people are a detrement to humanity. SEFLISHNESS they should get that, for seflish reasons stop SOCIETY wast so much energy on this crap. How much lived could be saved and how much productivity is lost how much must we ALL WE ALL LOSE! Feminist someday will be view one rung above Hitler
Thanks man.Right on.Those feminists do need that finger or better yet a broom stick deep up their hateful asses before their pussies.I wish there were more men like you- who cared about the conspiracy against men these days.Unfortunately,most men don't seem to care or are too pussy whipped to do anything about it.What pisses me is that those half-ass"men"don't actually believe theres a systematic feminizing of men and they still think women are oppressed.Of course some men would anything 4 pussy
"Those feminists do need that finger or better yet a broom stick deep up their hateful asses before their pussies."
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No. That's how they pleasure themselves. They don't need more pleasuring.
What they need is a ten year sentence to a work camp just north of Ice Station Zebra. And in the summer we drop tons of dry ice on the camp, just in case there's a nice week in August; we wouldn't want that.
But they can always go down to pull an extra shift in the coal mine to keep warm.
There are not "only a few perverts going around." You have a very marred view of the world around you. Maybe you don't realize that the statistical evidence of sexual harrassment and abuse is overwhelming throughout the world, including the in US. The fact that you are so bothered by some women fighting against it is very telling.
Maybe you don't realize that the statistical evidence of sexual harrassment and abuse is overwhelming throughout the world, including the in US.
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If you worked with statistics as I do, you'd see how easy they are to manipulate.
If you have a personal story to tell then tell it. But spare me your statistical machinations.
And if you're going to take still photos of total strangers on a subway platform and claim that they were harassing you, prepare to be met with some skepticism.
I have plenty of personal stories to tell. Including a very dear friend who was raped simply for not responding to what was a "compliment" on the street. These stories are not that hard to come by either. The fact that people are trying to do something about it should be a good thing.
It was a small town and she ran into the guy again. Not to mention the fact that I don't believe she would tell a lie. I have no reason to believe that she would. Though even if it were a lie, the bottom line is there are many incidents of harrassment on the streets gotten carried away. You can't ignore the fact. Hollaback seems to have quite a bit of personal stories. Do you doubt all of those as well? Granted some are blown out of proportion, but it doesn't make them any less wrong.
Not sure if the "ordinary girls like you" is directed towards me or not, but I will dismiss it since you don't personally know me. As far as the grammar is concerned, that could be explained by posts being screened and edited by site administrators before they are actually posted. As far as the diction is concerned, I might have to look into that, you make an interesting point.
Well I can't argue with you on this, as I agree that posting pictures should not be allowed. This sort of method doesn't really serve to tackle the problem anyway. It is more a means to vent and get "revenge", and of course there will be girls who take full atvantage. Unfortunately this is a phenomenon that exists all over the internet. The site doesn't have very much traffic though, and it seems that the same few people are making posts, and repeat posts.
You make an interesting observation about "the same few people making repeated posts."
Now you're an attractive woman, Joyness. So I'll ask you, does it make any sense that the same few girls are experiencing repeated sexual harassment on the subways?
Doesn't it seem strange that you, an attractive female, can travel around receiving only rare and minor harassment from strangers over the course of years, yet the Hollaback regulars are getting grabbed on every street corner?
It does seem odd, and it isn't very likely. This is New York city though. I grew up in Long Island, not exactly the same, but the city is quite crowded and condensed, so you will have all sorts of people frequenting the subways. I do see your point though, and it is a valid one. We have to be careful when we assume, but when an innocent person's reputation is on the line, I think it is fair to question the accuser. I just never thought I'd hear myself say those words.
Performing a character assassination is not my intention. I simply don't understand why you would have a problem against fighting harrassment towards women mainly on subways and buses. It makes you appear like someone perhaps overcompensating for a guilty conscience, or just plain bitter, but if you had no underlying hatred of any sort, I can't see how this would bother you. How is this affecting men outside of ensuring that women can have a smooth ride without the worry of harrassment?
I know women that have served jail sentences for seriously hurting their male attackers.
You stupid females provoke dudes I can stories that you wouldn't believe...but at the same time you wouldn't think there is anything wrong with what occurred.
These men photographed as sexual harassers will have their claims THROWN OUT by the courts. Courts are SEXIST as hell! Sexual harassment is a one-way-street, dual standard anyway. This is a method to enslave, and emasculate men while "empowering women", who are NEVER held accountable for their evil deeds. When was the last time a woman was indicted for sexually harassing a man?
Sexual harrassment is always gonna be there! no one can stop it, these fucking feminists think they can change the world, hello? newsflash! you can't change shit! what feminists are trying to do is they are trying to secretly bring back the 50's except men are gonna be in woman's position but what they don't understand is that men ain't people you can come up to and mess with! someone's bound to realize what's going on and take charge of the situation ya know...
Really the only ones complaining are brainwashed university students...most women love being "harassed", they cant get enough of it...they like perverts and arrogant assholes as well, of course most of them dont like admitting it...the ding-bats over at feministing have not been "harassed" enough and they resent it, i am referring to the "hetero" feminists, the lesbian feminist mainly resents being born without a cock.
I think it's hilarious how you only hear anything anti-feminist from MEN.
It's not sexual harassment to post pictures of people who sexually harass.
And no, not only women are victims but the majority of victims are female.
Sexual harassment is NEVER okay! It doesn't matter what gender you are. But, for some reason, it's always the woman's fault. We sexually harass someone "OMG ARREST THEM." We GET sexually harassed: Well, you should have been more responsible, you know it happens.
Feministing looks like anti-male hate speech to me too. Make no mistake it targets all men and its supremacist. It's interesting to note that supposed civil rights authorities are still out to lunch on this one, (or is it a bit of the old 'blind eye' approach.). It seems that mens rights groups get slammed for saying far less than these obvious hatemongers.
People claim Jessica Vallenti speaks from "a place of love and kindness" I'm pretty sure theyr'e talking about her mangina...in which case, theyr'e right. lol.
"I guess I don't understand why taking steps to open dialog on a problem that negatively affects both men and women is such a bad thing. Why should signs telling passengers on the subway to report sexual harassment make heterosexual men uncomfortable?"
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Big brother putting up a bunch of gender centric posters, basically harassing everybody just to reach out to a few miscreants who couldn't care less, isn't what I call a dialog.
Then they have the nerve to call it a public service.
I guess I don't understand why taking steps to open dialog on a problem that negatively affects both men and women is such a bad thing. Why should signs telling passengers on the subway to report sexual harassment make heterosexual men uncomfortable? Shouldn't heterosexual men also be concerned about these issues so that they can better react if they witness it?
There will always be people who overreact or falsely accuse but that doesn't mean that the problem does not exist.
On the plus side, what your doing with this video is a step in the right direction. These feminist's, are asking for rights against things so pointless, that we could probably use it against them. Pretty soon, making eye contact with a girl will be called "sexual harassment". These Valenti sisters, are basically using propaganda, centered around the fact that SOME men are perverts. Unlikely the ones they snap photos of. If they only concentrated their efforts on the middle east.. Damn tards.
I disagree with drug dealing being a less harmful crime. Crack for example has the potential to KILL on one hit from it. Drugs like PCP Phencylodine(sp?) has caused people to go psychotic and kill other people. Speaking of, how come no feminist ever denounced S.C.U.M. and the bitch that shot Andy Worhol? See how feminism can cause people to go psychotic and harm others? Time to treat feminism in much the same way asian countries treat drug dealers.
Feminism isn't going to go away without something drastic being done. In asian countries for example, drug dealing is a death penalty offense, singapore leads the world in executing people for such, they execute more people under the dangerous drug act percapita than china does. Why not do similar with feminism calling it a dangerous ideology to the survival of a nation which is the premise for capital crime laws against drugs in asia. but do it here first, we need to weed feminists out fast!
I have an idea ! Let them post a few pictures on their site, and then the men can accuse them of defamation, and then that will give all of us the opportunity to spray paint the shit out of feminism altogether. Don't interrupt them while they are digging their own graves...Just a thought.
I posted on their YouTube page about how Holla Back is a racist group that singles out black and hispanic men for alleged "harassment". The racism was so thick and so obvious that Holla Back had to ask its contributors to quit harping on the ethnic background of the "harassers".
Even other feminists smelled the BS. Tricia Wang likened Holla Back to the Klan: both used outrage over black men making passes at white women that they appointed themselves as vigilantes.
I'm a woman, and I have listened to both sides of this discussion, and I have to agree with you, I do understand their reasons for implementing certain things like "Hollaback" website, but the way they went about doing it wasn't the best way. Also their arguments about cat calling and such, its not a crime, its freedom of speech am I wrong? I agree with them on the point of physical harassment, that does need to be taken care of, but the way they are going about it is all wrong. Good job dude.
Some programmes when I used to watch tv were so loaded with contrived meaning that it annoyed me and over time it became clear that the number of programmes that had things I was interested in had fallen to zero. Then I did not watch tv anymore and I started to gather entertainment and information from less biased sources such as old books and films.
You provided no proof or evidence whats so ever that the pictures on the site weren't harrassers and were just "random innocent people". Next time provide a vlog with more facts and less rhetoric.
You say prove their innocence, I say prove their guilt.
It would be practically impossible for me to prove the guilt or innocence of any of these men. I don't know any of them,
However, as a proof of concept, I could pose as an aggrieved female and post a random picture of some total stranger accompanied by a few paragraphs of pure fiction.
If you'd like, you can supply a picture of yourself, presuming you're male. I doubt they accept pics of females.
Then prove that these people are putting up false information. Go ahead provide some facts, provide some evidence. Why are you just spewing rhetoric? If these people are somehow wrong putting up pics of random people then prove it. Go ahead prove them guilty
I'm sure if they are taking pictures of "completely random people", they would have all kinds of lawsuits by now. Plus what would their motive be? How bout this- make a video once there is actually some court action.
"If these people are somehow wrong putting up pics of random people then prove it. Go ahead prove them guilty"
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Send me a pic of yourself and I will prove how easily this can be done.
"I'm sure if they are taking pictures of completely random people, they would have all kinds of lawsuits by now."
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What makes you so sure? HollabackNYC is currently a low traffic site. Take a picture of a friend of yours standing on a subway platform and post it with a paragraph of fiction. He'll never find it.
you are a good man...keep up the good work...do not worry as with time, DIRECT ACTION (spraypainting and removing as much male negativity from the corrupt human world as possible) and strength men will unite against those dumb fucks who would insult men and the goodness they have in their hearts.
I see your point TheEditorialist and my point is that in thier 3 minute videos they keep using the words US and WE when they haven't even done anything in trying to take all the glory if there is any. And this miss Valenti, i want to know what her father thinks of her 'views'
they were indoctrinated with american jew-TV, hollywood jew-movies and rotten, jewish school teachers....thats what we get for fighting our own kind in germany, and rescuing their evil asses!!
True. Men who are not found attractive will get more flack than men who are considered attractive. Women are about weeding out "undesirable" males. Their criteria for desirable males is another story.
Btw. The Salem witch trials were mainly about women denouncing others and leaving the authorities to act on their behalf. Nothing changes it seems. Thus a climate of ambient fear is induced not dissimilar to that found within households where abusive personalities (M or F)live. What a sick way to get your kicks feministing. Again feministing targets those who are unable to defend themselves and note how they choose hetero males and ignore gays (m +f). They are boring, repetitive + predictable
As a group yes, but I am talking about the unfortunate males who have been picked at random in this instance. If one of them were vulnerable eg suffering from depression. This might be enough to push them over the edge.
Chicks running around half naked baiting men to look at them so they can cry sexual harrasment is a joke. Chicks want men to look at them. Chicks want men to grab their ass. All so they can complain to their girlfriends that their ass got grabbed. Only problem is most feminist don't get harassed. That's why they are so pissed off all the time. They can't compete with the hot chicks that do get harassed. I'm waiting for the "Friday Feminist F.U. Hot Chicks We Want Equal Harassment Too" video.
did you talk to 4567pod about the baiting tactics of feminism?
A lot of people are skeptical about how women bait men into false sexual harassment. Trust me, he'll tell you some stories that would prove that woman go far.
TheEditorialist says: "Basically the feminist goal seems to be, not equality, but that unempowered (non-alpha) men should walk on egg shells - healots vs spartans
Posters that are designed to make heterosexual men feel uncomfortable are institutionalized sexual harassment against men.
And Feministing is all for that form of sexual harassmen"
Exactly, and not only feministing, but feminists in general, are targeting the non-alpha males and harassing them all the time.
Your vids are a real pick me up even though the subject, what these abusive arseholes get up to, is so depressing. When is someone gonna kick feminism's fucking arse!
Oh right no.lol No I actually just had a break from youtube for awhile and now I've decided to come back with a fresh account. But I'm just straight back on the good anti-feminist vids.
And like a true feminist you attack the person personally without debating rationally about the subject matter.
How do you define sexual harassment? All this time I've felt like I can't even look at a woman and what followed from that was a lot of self-hate. Really, I can identify with this and now having seen this video, I feel a bit better.
There's always going to be double standards when it comes to gender and even race for that matter, that's simply a fact of life.
I deleted the comment that shazwoza and acadiantunes are referring to here, since that original comment was posted from an account that was closed immediately after spamming my channel.
I can only assume that this troll opened that particular account solely for the purpose of spamming this channel and then closed it once she had finished.
Not a good idea!
These trolls who open accounts for the sole purpose of littering this channel are wasting their time.
I have way better things to do than try to convince a teenage feminist about the "truth". Most adult feminists wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass so you're a hopeless case as far as i'm concerned. Oh, get wangs off your mind, you wouldn't want to "blow" a beautiful feminist mind like that.
Hard to believe that not too long ago women were fighting for sexual liberation. So now that they're liberated they have the nerve to make us look like criminals for simply expressing our sexual feeling. Of course i mean when it's done in a decent way. Like Warren Farrell says "sexual initiatives by men towards women at work is the most frequent definition of sexual harassment. When it works it's called courtship. when it doesn't work, it's called harassment." Another low "blow" to men.
Any man who is not insanely wealthy is not to make eye contact with women, that is the name of the game. Feminism is a way for ordinary women to play "goddess". As the saying goes, "Mediocrity is never passive."
From HolabackNY site "On October 3-6, 2008 Radical Women is hosting The Persistent Power of Socialist Feminism conference at The Women's Building in San Francisco. Save the date! "
From these women, socialism is a class struggle. Not between rich people and poor people, but incridble, against poor people too. The men.
Feminism is such a bankrupt and hypocritical ideology that the public are finally starting to turn against it. This is why feministing pre-moderate all their comments; because of the sheer volume of objection to their bullshit.
What do you mean with "in fact they are sexist", all feminists are sexists. They simply hate men and publish propaganda which should let the men hating grow.
Is this dude trying to be an obnoxious hick, or is it just built in?
ccipollini1984 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984
Bite me, cockbreath
TheEditorialist 7 months ago
@ccipollini1984 are you a hipster or just some faggot? I see no difference.
ohiogrinder 1 week ago
the most anti-feminist guys have the least luck with women. Don't hate women because you can't get a date! You most likely give off some kind of creepy vibe.
gryphon50c 1 year ago
@gryphon50c Don't hate women because you can't get..."
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Is it even possible to hate women?
You can hate subsets of such an enormous group. But there's no way you can hate the entire group. You can try to hate it, you can even profess that you hate such a group.
But then you meet an individual of the hated group and you can really like that individual.
The person is real. The group is not real. The group exists only as an abstraction.
There is no thing on the Earth called 'men or 'women.'
TheEditorialist 1 year ago
@gryphon50c
"the most anti-feminist guys have the least luck with women."
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By extension, the most zealous adherents of any belief will have less reproductive success than run of the mill persons who lack strong opinions.
Ex: Engels was more popular w/ the ladies than Marx. But it's no wonder, since Marx couldn't stop talking about economics, while Engels knew how to relax after hours and have a good time.
Marx's brain was so big. It was mal-adapted to getting laid by 19 year old co-eds.
TheEditorialist 1 year ago
@gryphon50c
The most feminist women have the least luck with men. Dont hate men because you can't get a date! You most likely give off some kind of creepy vibe.
robgvm 11 months ago
@robgvm I've been married for 10 years, been with the same guy for 20 years, and he makes six figures. Sorry!
gryphon50c 7 months ago
@gryphon50c
So you engaged in hypergamy and married for money, correct?
Wytchfinde 7 months ago
@Wytchfinde Well, when I first went out with him he had ZERO dollars and came from a white trash family (probably the kind you are familiar with). So, wrong again.
gryphon50c 7 months ago
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gryphon50c 7 months ago
@gryphon50c and so what if I do? they can do anything when I put my hands around their neck.
ohiogrinder 1 week ago
@ohiogrinder another sad bitter loser.
gryphon50c 1 week ago
Anyone ever notice how Feminazing disables comments for every video? Seems to me they don't like dissenting opinions to surface.
UcchanNoInazuke 1 year ago
@DanceswithUtube
My time is too precious to me.
I refuse to devote my time to answering questions. I don't owe you a cogent response, nor do you deserve one.
But rest assured. Your comment will be deleted within 24 hours.
TheEditorialist 1 year ago
This makes me want to join a construction crew and make all sorts of cat calls! You are right they are not going after perverts they want us all to feel uncomfortable.
ITHEREONETHATHASNT 2 years ago
your an idiot. Ignorant.
itsmiranda 2 years ago
I had a look at that hollaback website, and is it just me, or does this constitute damages as a result of personal photos of these men being posted on a sexual harassment website? These men who are quite probably innocent of any wrongdoing, are being portrayed as predators. It fucking sickens me that sites like that are allowed to exist.
zeparegods 2 years ago 3
Actually, Hollaback constitutes libel and slander against men. Legally speaking, any citizen could easily charge it for libel and slander, as a civil suit, and get it to pay damages to the men it stalked and lied about.
menareangrynow 2 years ago
Well said.
Yourebuying 2 years ago
I don't hate women. I am not prejudice against any gender, race, or creed.
But this third wave of feminism is damaging beyond belief.
It is a movement of victimhood, entitlement, and sexism. It gives both men AND women a bad name, and it degrades society across the board.
To you, TheEditorialist, I tip my hat. Keep speaking my friend, keep speaking, because you are becoming the voice of a generation of men. And I am proud to be a new subscriber of your channel.
Keep it coming my friend!
brokenjohnny 2 years ago 4
soon its gonna be unfashionable 2 follow feminism because ladies are gonna be tired of sleeping alone
xaviermorris 2 years ago
Keep up the good work man. These women Cant Understand Normal Thinking
uratrick 2 years ago
You're a fucking genius!
SirFrancisDashwood15 3 years ago 3
Keep up the good work, these people are a detrement to humanity. SEFLISHNESS they should get that, for seflish reasons stop SOCIETY wast so much energy on this crap. How much lived could be saved and how much productivity is lost how much must we ALL WE ALL LOSE! Feminist someday will be view one rung above Hitler
marcef100t 3 years ago
Thanks man.Right on.Those feminists do need that finger or better yet a broom stick deep up their hateful asses before their pussies.I wish there were more men like you- who cared about the conspiracy against men these days.Unfortunately,most men don't seem to care or are too pussy whipped to do anything about it.What pisses me is that those half-ass"men"don't actually believe theres a systematic feminizing of men and they still think women are oppressed.Of course some men would anything 4 pussy
niteowlsam 3 years ago
@niteowlsam Said the rapist.
gryphon50c 1 year ago
@gryphon50c
"Said the rapist."
>>Said the somewhat stupid to the very bitter.
TheEditorialist 1 year ago
@niteowlsam
"Those feminists do need that finger or better yet a broom stick deep up their hateful asses before their pussies."
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No. That's how they pleasure themselves. They don't need more pleasuring.
What they need is a ten year sentence to a work camp just north of Ice Station Zebra. And in the summer we drop tons of dry ice on the camp, just in case there's a nice week in August; we wouldn't want that.
But they can always go down to pull an extra shift in the coal mine to keep warm.
TheEditorialist 1 year ago 2
There are not "only a few perverts going around." You have a very marred view of the world around you. Maybe you don't realize that the statistical evidence of sexual harrassment and abuse is overwhelming throughout the world, including the in US. The fact that you are so bothered by some women fighting against it is very telling.
Joyness333 3 years ago 3
Maybe you don't realize that the statistical evidence of sexual harrassment and abuse is overwhelming throughout the world, including the in US.
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If you worked with statistics as I do, you'd see how easy they are to manipulate.
If you have a personal story to tell then tell it. But spare me your statistical machinations.
And if you're going to take still photos of total strangers on a subway platform and claim that they were harassing you, prepare to be met with some skepticism.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
I have plenty of personal stories to tell. Including a very dear friend who was raped simply for not responding to what was a "compliment" on the street. These stories are not that hard to come by either. The fact that people are trying to do something about it should be a good thing.
Joyness333 3 years ago 4
A stranger rape on the street in broad daylight?
Fascinating!
Did they take her up to the mother ship and probe her anus as well?
These stories work well on kids from hick towns and the burbs.
"Oh the city is so scary. Women get dragged off the street and raped. Why I read about this girl, who has a friend..."
But once you reach a certain age, it sounds like another alien abduction story...totally implausible.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
It was a small town and she ran into the guy again. Not to mention the fact that I don't believe she would tell a lie. I have no reason to believe that she would. Though even if it were a lie, the bottom line is there are many incidents of harrassment on the streets gotten carried away. You can't ignore the fact. Hollaback seems to have quite a bit of personal stories. Do you doubt all of those as well? Granted some are blown out of proportion, but it doesn't make them any less wrong.
Joyness333 3 years ago
"Hollaback seems to have quite a bit of personal stories. Do you doubt all of those as well?"
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Why is the writing style so similar for so many of the anecdotes on that site?
Why is the grammar and spelling nearly perfect?
Why does a site which claims to be specifically about sexual harassment in public link to feminist sites which have so little in common with them?
It's an obvious piece of feminist agitprop, disguised as a site to empower "ordinary girls like you."
Textbook agitprop.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
Not sure if the "ordinary girls like you" is directed towards me or not, but I will dismiss it since you don't personally know me. As far as the grammar is concerned, that could be explained by posts being screened and edited by site administrators before they are actually posted. As far as the diction is concerned, I might have to look into that, you make an interesting point.
Joyness333 3 years ago
What bothers me the most about Hollaback is the total lack of any accountability.
Let's say hypothetically that I have a boss that I can't stand.
I can simply snap his photo, fabricate some scandalous lies about him and submit these lies to the site along with his photo.
Once they're posted onto Hollaback, I can "discover" the boss online and forward the link to everyone in the organization.
It's a witch hunt only worse, because the accused can't even face his accuser.
Zero accountability
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
Well I can't argue with you on this, as I agree that posting pictures should not be allowed. This sort of method doesn't really serve to tackle the problem anyway. It is more a means to vent and get "revenge", and of course there will be girls who take full atvantage. Unfortunately this is a phenomenon that exists all over the internet. The site doesn't have very much traffic though, and it seems that the same few people are making posts, and repeat posts.
Joyness333 3 years ago
"...of course there will be girls who take full advantage."
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Not just girls. As a man, I could easily post someone's pics along with some libelous fiction.
For added credibility with the site admin, I'd use a female alias, of course.
Then once the lies were posted, I could generate a fresh gmail account and forward the link to everyone, completely anonymously.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
You make an interesting observation about "the same few people making repeated posts."
Now you're an attractive woman, Joyness. So I'll ask you, does it make any sense that the same few girls are experiencing repeated sexual harassment on the subways?
Doesn't it seem strange that you, an attractive female, can travel around receiving only rare and minor harassment from strangers over the course of years, yet the Hollaback regulars are getting grabbed on every street corner?
It doesn't add up.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
It does seem odd, and it isn't very likely. This is New York city though. I grew up in Long Island, not exactly the same, but the city is quite crowded and condensed, so you will have all sorts of people frequenting the subways. I do see your point though, and it is a valid one. We have to be careful when we assume, but when an innocent person's reputation is on the line, I think it is fair to question the accuser. I just never thought I'd hear myself say those words.
Joyness333 3 years ago 6
that's because those bitch ass women never say excuse me.
worldworks 2 years ago
because the Hollaback regulars are provoking people.
worldworks 2 years ago
"The fact that you are so bothered by some women fighting against it is very telling."
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If it's so telling, please do tell!
Tell me what you think it means. The world loves embellishments, don't just leave us hanging with a word like 'telling.'
Do tell!
If your going to perform a successful character assassination upon me, you must first be willing to twist the knife.
;-)
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
Performing a character assassination is not my intention. I simply don't understand why you would have a problem against fighting harrassment towards women mainly on subways and buses. It makes you appear like someone perhaps overcompensating for a guilty conscience, or just plain bitter, but if you had no underlying hatred of any sort, I can't see how this would bother you. How is this affecting men outside of ensuring that women can have a smooth ride without the worry of harrassment?
Joyness333 3 years ago
"I simply don't understand why you would have a problem against fighting harrassment towards women."
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Falsely claiming sexual harassment, is a form of sexual harassment.
And I think most of the claims on hollabackNYC are false. In fact, I think many of them were written by the site admin.
I've been using public transit in big cities all my life, and I've never seen what I've read on that site.
Hollaback doesn't want me to believe my lying eyes. But at my age, I should've seen it by now.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
I know women that have served jail sentences for seriously hurting their male attackers.
You stupid females provoke dudes I can stories that you wouldn't believe...but at the same time you wouldn't think there is anything wrong with what occurred.
worldworks 2 years ago
These men photographed as sexual harassers will have their claims THROWN OUT by the courts. Courts are SEXIST as hell! Sexual harassment is a one-way-street, dual standard anyway. This is a method to enslave, and emasculate men while "empowering women", who are NEVER held accountable for their evil deeds. When was the last time a woman was indicted for sexually harassing a man?
terrafirma91 3 years ago
Sexual harrassment is always gonna be there! no one can stop it, these fucking feminists think they can change the world, hello? newsflash! you can't change shit! what feminists are trying to do is they are trying to secretly bring back the 50's except men are gonna be in woman's position but what they don't understand is that men ain't people you can come up to and mess with! someone's bound to realize what's going on and take charge of the situation ya know...
legandarymasterrevan 3 years ago 2
it's sexual harassment when the wrong guy respond to their baiting tactics.
worldworks 2 years ago
Really the only ones complaining are brainwashed university students...most women love being "harassed", they cant get enough of it...they like perverts and arrogant assholes as well, of course most of them dont like admitting it...the ding-bats over at feministing have not been "harassed" enough and they resent it, i am referring to the "hetero" feminists, the lesbian feminist mainly resents being born without a cock.
silkfarm 3 years ago
Saying "fuck yeah" vs "fuck you" Wow, what an intelligible and creative marketing campaign!
ChampCreed 3 years ago 5
I think it's hilarious how you only hear anything anti-feminist from MEN.
It's not sexual harassment to post pictures of people who sexually harass.
And no, not only women are victims but the majority of victims are female.
Sexual harassment is NEVER okay! It doesn't matter what gender you are. But, for some reason, it's always the woman's fault. We sexually harass someone "OMG ARREST THEM." We GET sexually harassed: Well, you should have been more responsible, you know it happens.
AngelsBrokenWings 3 years ago
And maybe if jerkwads like you would stop promoting double standards, then the world wouldn't be like this.
We KNOW it happens, and if you keep promoting it, then it will KEEP happening.
This goes for women, too! NOT just men.
AngelsBrokenWings 3 years ago
Um I completely hate Feministing and I'm a girl. So maybe you should think before you say something.
MichelleRoxs 3 years ago 9
@MichelleRoxs: I totally hate hard-line feminist, but you should shut the fuck up when you oppose them!!!1oneherpaderp...
dystopianlover 1 year ago
Feministing looks like anti-male hate speech to me too. Make no mistake it targets all men and its supremacist. It's interesting to note that supposed civil rights authorities are still out to lunch on this one, (or is it a bit of the old 'blind eye' approach.). It seems that mens rights groups get slammed for saying far less than these obvious hatemongers.
Introspectre1 3 years ago 8
People claim Jessica Vallenti speaks from "a place of love and kindness" I'm pretty sure theyr'e talking about her mangina...in which case, theyr'e right. lol.
the5chronicles 3 years ago
"I guess I don't understand why taking steps to open dialog on a problem that negatively affects both men and women is such a bad thing. Why should signs telling passengers on the subway to report sexual harassment make heterosexual men uncomfortable?"
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Big brother putting up a bunch of gender centric posters, basically harassing everybody just to reach out to a few miscreants who couldn't care less, isn't what I call a dialog.
Then they have the nerve to call it a public service.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
And there are perhaps a hopeful few like yourself (who I call grossly naive, but anyway...)
Some of you guys are forever thinking that we're just one legislative push, or one more PSA campaign away from a more equitable society.
Only the innocence of childhood could have anyone still believing that the government actually solves problems through PSA's and the like.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
I guess I don't understand why taking steps to open dialog on a problem that negatively affects both men and women is such a bad thing. Why should signs telling passengers on the subway to report sexual harassment make heterosexual men uncomfortable? Shouldn't heterosexual men also be concerned about these issues so that they can better react if they witness it?
There will always be people who overreact or falsely accuse but that doesn't mean that the problem does not exist.
ersigh 3 years ago
Excellent Point! Bu', but..but..why would women lie? Ask Crystal Gail Magnum and her ilk. Good job dude
murtari 3 years ago 6
"Hollaback on this feministing!!"
LMAO!! Agreed.
Anticommunist22 3 years ago 3
"christianj162000
Feminists are the greatest promoters of hate and misandry. It's about time they were held accountable.."
amaninuk 3 years ago
On the plus side, what your doing with this video is a step in the right direction. These feminist's, are asking for rights against things so pointless, that we could probably use it against them. Pretty soon, making eye contact with a girl will be called "sexual harassment". These Valenti sisters, are basically using propaganda, centered around the fact that SOME men are perverts. Unlikely the ones they snap photos of. If they only concentrated their efforts on the middle east.. Damn tards.
wykidclown 3 years ago
I disagree with drug dealing being a less harmful crime. Crack for example has the potential to KILL on one hit from it. Drugs like PCP Phencylodine(sp?) has caused people to go psychotic and kill other people. Speaking of, how come no feminist ever denounced S.C.U.M. and the bitch that shot Andy Worhol? See how feminism can cause people to go psychotic and harm others? Time to treat feminism in much the same way asian countries treat drug dealers.
sneaker73 3 years ago
Feminism isn't going to go away without something drastic being done. In asian countries for example, drug dealing is a death penalty offense, singapore leads the world in executing people for such, they execute more people under the dangerous drug act percapita than china does. Why not do similar with feminism calling it a dangerous ideology to the survival of a nation which is the premise for capital crime laws against drugs in asia. but do it here first, we need to weed feminists out fast!
sneaker73 3 years ago
I have an idea ! Let them post a few pictures on their site, and then the men can accuse them of defamation, and then that will give all of us the opportunity to spray paint the shit out of feminism altogether. Don't interrupt them while they are digging their own graves...Just a thought.
NaturallySequential 3 years ago
I posted on their YouTube page about how Holla Back is a racist group that singles out black and hispanic men for alleged "harassment". The racism was so thick and so obvious that Holla Back had to ask its contributors to quit harping on the ethnic background of the "harassers".
Even other feminists smelled the BS. Tricia Wang likened Holla Back to the Klan: both used outrage over black men making passes at white women that they appointed themselves as vigilantes.
MarshalLucky1 3 years ago
Feminists are the greatest promoters of hate and misandry. It's about time they were held accountable..
christianj162000 3 years ago
I'm a woman, and I have listened to both sides of this discussion, and I have to agree with you, I do understand their reasons for implementing certain things like "Hollaback" website, but the way they went about doing it wasn't the best way. Also their arguments about cat calling and such, its not a crime, its freedom of speech am I wrong? I agree with them on the point of physical harassment, that does need to be taken care of, but the way they are going about it is all wrong. Good job dude.
arielle8892 3 years ago
Some programmes when I used to watch tv were so loaded with contrived meaning that it annoyed me and over time it became clear that the number of programmes that had things I was interested in had fallen to zero. Then I did not watch tv anymore and I started to gather entertainment and information from less biased sources such as old books and films.
amaninuk 3 years ago
You provided no proof or evidence whats so ever that the pictures on the site weren't harrassers and were just "random innocent people". Next time provide a vlog with more facts and less rhetoric.
goingemoguy 3 years ago
You say prove their innocence, I say prove their guilt.
It would be practically impossible for me to prove the guilt or innocence of any of these men. I don't know any of them,
However, as a proof of concept, I could pose as an aggrieved female and post a random picture of some total stranger accompanied by a few paragraphs of pure fiction.
If you'd like, you can supply a picture of yourself, presuming you're male. I doubt they accept pics of females.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
Then prove that these people are putting up false information. Go ahead provide some facts, provide some evidence. Why are you just spewing rhetoric? If these people are somehow wrong putting up pics of random people then prove it. Go ahead prove them guilty
I'm sure if they are taking pictures of "completely random people", they would have all kinds of lawsuits by now. Plus what would their motive be? How bout this- make a video once there is actually some court action.
goingemoguy 3 years ago
"If these people are somehow wrong putting up pics of random people then prove it. Go ahead prove them guilty"
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Send me a pic of yourself and I will prove how easily this can be done.
"I'm sure if they are taking pictures of completely random people, they would have all kinds of lawsuits by now."
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What makes you so sure? HollabackNYC is currently a low traffic site. Take a picture of a friend of yours standing on a subway platform and post it with a paragraph of fiction. He'll never find it.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
Welcome to the internet, this is known as a "vlog" or video log in which a subject video tapes themselves discussing their opinions.
Burden of proof is on the accusers.
Solypsys 3 years ago
Innocent until proven guilty. We don't live in the medieval ages, in case you didn't notice.
wykidclown 3 years ago
you are a good man...keep up the good work...do not worry as with time, DIRECT ACTION (spraypainting and removing as much male negativity from the corrupt human world as possible) and strength men will unite against those dumb fucks who would insult men and the goodness they have in their hearts.
amaninuk 3 years ago 4
Its true we are being harrased.....ban the channel!
logom0 3 years ago
I see your point TheEditorialist and my point is that in thier 3 minute videos they keep using the words US and WE when they haven't even done anything in trying to take all the glory if there is any. And this miss Valenti, i want to know what her father thinks of her 'views'
logom0 3 years ago
oh, her father fully approves....he's a typical jewish-eunuch, and hater of anything good or decent!
goodguggerwugger 3 years ago
I dont know how some of these women can think like that, i mean who are they influenced by? makes me sick
logom0 3 years ago
they were indoctrinated with american jew-TV, hollywood jew-movies and rotten, jewish school teachers....thats what we get for fighting our own kind in germany, and rescuing their evil asses!!
goodguggerwugger 3 years ago
I would appreciate it if you would cut the anti-semetic crap.
itachi705 3 years ago 3
go fuck yourself, you brainwashed puke!!
goodguggerwugger 3 years ago
Yeah, same to you, nazi prick.
itachi705 3 years ago 3
Some call it sexual harresment some call it courting its sexual harresment if they dont find you atractive apparently.
werebaka1 3 years ago
True. Men who are not found attractive will get more flack than men who are considered attractive. Women are about weeding out "undesirable" males. Their criteria for desirable males is another story.
patr333x 3 years ago
Btw. The Salem witch trials were mainly about women denouncing others and leaving the authorities to act on their behalf. Nothing changes it seems. Thus a climate of ambient fear is induced not dissimilar to that found within households where abusive personalities (M or F)live. What a sick way to get your kicks feministing. Again feministing targets those who are unable to defend themselves and note how they choose hetero males and ignore gays (m +f). They are boring, repetitive + predictable
jbgood3 3 years ago 3
"The Salem witch trials were mainly about women denouncing... Nothing changes it seems."
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So true. And they denounced several men, as well, who were also executed for "witchery."
Of course, they went too far when they denounced one of the town's elders (an alpha male, of course)
The old man not only defended himself vigorously but successfully snuffed out the hysteria through the force of one argument.
Things can change very quickly when the right man (or men) get backed into a corner.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Again feministing targets those who are unable to defend themselves...they choose hetero males and ignore gays"
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But we ARE able to defend ourselves.
Don't miss a single opportunity to defend your manhood loudly and proudly. And never apologize and never give up.
The weaker men will see this and take heart and this thing will become a tidal wave.
You are worth ten feminists. Not because you're a man, but because our cause is just, and the overwhelming majority of both sexes agrees with us!
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
"But we ARE able to defend ourselves."
As a group yes, but I am talking about the unfortunate males who have been picked at random in this instance. If one of them were vulnerable eg suffering from depression. This might be enough to push them over the edge.
jbgood3 3 years ago
Chicks running around half naked baiting men to look at them so they can cry sexual harrasment is a joke. Chicks want men to look at them. Chicks want men to grab their ass. All so they can complain to their girlfriends that their ass got grabbed. Only problem is most feminist don't get harassed. That's why they are so pissed off all the time. They can't compete with the hot chicks that do get harassed. I'm waiting for the "Friday Feminist F.U. Hot Chicks We Want Equal Harassment Too" video.
cybrotius 3 years ago 5
did you talk to 4567pod about the baiting tactics of feminism?
A lot of people are skeptical about how women bait men into false sexual harassment. Trust me, he'll tell you some stories that would prove that woman go far.
worldworks 2 years ago
Women, of course, can harass any man they want, with accusations, etc. The point is to attack men, particulary men without wealth and power.
patr333x 3 years ago 2
TheEditorialist says: "Basically the feminist goal seems to be, not equality, but that unempowered (non-alpha) men should walk on egg shells - healots vs spartans
Posters that are designed to make heterosexual men feel uncomfortable are institutionalized sexual harassment against men.
And Feministing is all for that form of sexual harassmen"
Exactly, and not only feministing, but feminists in general, are targeting the non-alpha males and harassing them all the time.
XxDEFLESHEDxX 3 years ago 2
which proves that feminists are not only immature emotionally but are also dangerous too.
sneaker73 3 years ago
I used to be Rejectfeministlies.
Your vids are a real pick me up even though the subject, what these abusive arseholes get up to, is so depressing. When is someone gonna kick feminism's fucking arse!
Oh yeah and subscribed.
xxboingxx67 3 years ago 2
Why did you change your name?
georg1984 3 years ago
I just felt like a change.
xxboingxx67 3 years ago
I was wondering if you got banned or something!
georg1984 3 years ago
Oh right no.lol No I actually just had a break from youtube for awhile and now I've decided to come back with a fresh account. But I'm just straight back on the good anti-feminist vids.
xxboingxx67 3 years ago
And like a true feminist you attack the person personally without debating rationally about the subject matter.
How do you define sexual harassment? All this time I've felt like I can't even look at a woman and what followed from that was a lot of self-hate. Really, I can identify with this and now having seen this video, I feel a bit better.
There's always going to be double standards when it comes to gender and even race for that matter, that's simply a fact of life.
shazwoza 3 years ago
I deleted the comment that shazwoza and acadiantunes are referring to here, since that original comment was posted from an account that was closed immediately after spamming my channel.
I can only assume that this troll opened that particular account solely for the purpose of spamming this channel and then closed it once she had finished.
Not a good idea!
These trolls who open accounts for the sole purpose of littering this channel are wasting their time.
I will personally see to that.
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
I have way better things to do than try to convince a teenage feminist about the "truth". Most adult feminists wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on the ass so you're a hopeless case as far as i'm concerned. Oh, get wangs off your mind, you wouldn't want to "blow" a beautiful feminist mind like that.
acadiantunes 3 years ago
The truth isn't usually very popular so keep your 5,000 views little girl "sweetie"
acadiantunes 3 years ago
These girls are whakos! Taking pictures of strangers and putting them on the internet? That's so dubious!
Look at the tagline of the website (hollabacknyc DOT blogspot DOT c o m). It says:
"you have the right to feel safe, confident, and sexy, without being the object of some turd's fantasy"
You do not have the right not to be in someone's fantasy! What is this, the fucking thought police?
Great great vid, Editorialist! Favourited.
Keep it coming!
georg1984 3 years ago
Hard to believe that not too long ago women were fighting for sexual liberation. So now that they're liberated they have the nerve to make us look like criminals for simply expressing our sexual feeling. Of course i mean when it's done in a decent way. Like Warren Farrell says "sexual initiatives by men towards women at work is the most frequent definition of sexual harassment. When it works it's called courtship. when it doesn't work, it's called harassment." Another low "blow" to men.
acadiantunes 3 years ago 2
Those girls are pigs and the scum of the earth. They do it for power and to express the hate that has consumed them. Thanks P.
pinegrove33 3 years ago 4
a female pig is called a SOW.
sneaker73 3 years ago
The life expectancy difference in Russia between men and women is 14 years.
georg1984 3 years ago
Any man who is not insanely wealthy is not to make eye contact with women, that is the name of the game. Feminism is a way for ordinary women to play "goddess". As the saying goes, "Mediocrity is never passive."
patr333x 3 years ago 3
From HolabackNY site "On October 3-6, 2008 Radical Women is hosting The Persistent Power of Socialist Feminism conference at The Women's Building in San Francisco. Save the date! "
From these women, socialism is a class struggle. Not between rich people and poor people, but incridble, against poor people too. The men.
SuperPais 3 years ago
Excellent video!
Heru666 3 years ago
Your vids just get better bro!
Feminism is such a bankrupt and hypocritical ideology that the public are finally starting to turn against it. This is why feministing pre-moderate all their comments; because of the sheer volume of objection to their bullshit.
WizardKing78 3 years ago 3
"This is why feministing pre-moderate all their comments; because of the sheer volume of objection to their bullshit. "
Yeahh. We need to make a site where people can talk freely
SuperPais 3 years ago
What do you mean with "in fact they are sexist", all feminists are sexists. They simply hate men and publish propaganda which should let the men hating grow.
Stier19812002 3 years ago 8
"...all feminists are sexists."
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Yeah.
I actually said that in the last thirty seconds of the video, word for word.
I can't blame you for not sitting through the whole thing. It was rather long.
LOL
TheEditorialist 3 years ago
wow. what a great vid, bro!! i'm passing this one around....
goodguggerwugger 3 years ago 2