Listen, if she does really have pics of Cochise, they should be released. It would be a true honor to see his face. There are pics of Naiche and Taza, but not The Great!
@myspacecomaffwj you know i am an englishmen in england and i know the apache and other indian tribes the commanche kiowa the sioux etc and they were in america first the whites were a disgrace i am not liberal or leftwing but respecting the american indians should not be about politics or right or left,a man like geromino or cochise transended that,they were great men of wisdom its a shame the old ways have gone but gone they have,if i can be 25% the man they were i will die happy.god bless you
I don´t know if you are familiar with a Norwegian cientist named Helge Ingstad. He found out and proved the relationship between apache language and the language of the native tribes in the North. So the Apaches in the south (New Mexico, Arizona ,,)had clear relation with the native indian triebes in the North. There was also clear indications in their myths and stories.
I say we take our lands back! My great grandfather was apache and never could settle in one place for too long for fear of his life. he would always move from new mwxico to texas to mexico. We don't know when he passed or even where he is buried because he would leave because of the fear.
Naiche is for Nacho a Mexican Apache, historians of US change the name Nacho for Naiche, Geronimo, Vitorio , and Nacho, Juh are Mexican Warriors Apaches, Geronimo was born in Arizpe Sonora Mexico, Vitorio was born near Juarez Mexico was a Mexican kid stole by Apaches, Apaches mostly spoke spanish. because they lived in Mexico
Geronimo Goyale was born near the Gila River in Southeastern New Mexico. Victorio was born near the Ojo Caliente in Southern NM. Victorio was not a Nakaye. He was Chihene Nde yes Apaches spoke and speak Spanish.
In Arizpe Sonora Mexico is the baptize proof of Geronimo , documents on the hand not US historians lies, read the Apaches book of Manuel Rojas, Victorio was not 100 percent apache he was a niño cautivo , stolen kid that was kidnap by apaches
I just asked my friend (the Nachez) that I posted about earlier. Elbys Hugar is his grandmother. So yes, she had kids. At least one son that I know of.
One of my best friends is a young Nachez (he carries this as his last name) living in Mescalero. So if she didn't have kids, somebody else did. The bloodline is still alive I'm thinking :)
dear elbys your not alone i am a desindent of cochise my grand mother my nana is the great cousin of cochise,so we are family i believe.
p.s. reply back i wish to know about my familys history
bugs996 1 month ago in playlist Chiricahua Apache
Listen, if she does really have pics of Cochise, they should be released. It would be a true honor to see his face. There are pics of Naiche and Taza, but not The Great!
-June 16th
myspacecomaffwj 8 months ago
I named my son after Chief Cochise. A great man who always kept his word; unlike the whites. Happy Birthday Geronimo!!!
myspacecomaffwj 8 months ago
@myspacecomaffwj Great that you named your son after Chief Cochise! I wish him a happy life !
Norapache 8 months ago
@myspacecomaffwj Great that you named your son after Chief Cochise! I wish him a happy life !
Norapache 8 months ago
@myspacecomaffwj you know i am an englishmen in england and i know the apache and other indian tribes the commanche kiowa the sioux etc and they were in america first the whites were a disgrace i am not liberal or leftwing but respecting the american indians should not be about politics or right or left,a man like geromino or cochise transended that,they were great men of wisdom its a shame the old ways have gone but gone they have,if i can be 25% the man they were i will die happy.god bless you
september7891 1 week ago
i would like to find this woman to let her know she's not alone..i'm also chiricahua on geronimos side.
nativelandprod 1 year ago
I live in Venezuela, my name is CARLOS GONZALEZ. In honor of so great warrior my 2 children are named COCHISE. * CARLOS COCHISE * ALBERTO COCHISE
charlyzable 1 year ago
I am trying to learn Chiricahua or white mountain apache language. Does anyone know a the best way I can learn?
wutangclaninthefront 2 years ago
Elbys is a beautiful woman, being Apache just makes her plus beautiful. Her knowledge of her people is an honor to her ancestors. Ashont'
Dahtiye 2 years ago 2
My friends are White Mountain Apaches the greatest people ive ever met and got to know .Shith'danothshow my friends
nokiannie 2 years ago
I don´t know if you are familiar with a Norwegian cientist named Helge Ingstad. He found out and proved the relationship between apache language and the language of the native tribes in the North. So the Apaches in the south (New Mexico, Arizona ,,)had clear relation with the native indian triebes in the North. There was also clear indications in their myths and stories.
Norapache 2 years ago
Hey Folks! There's no need for any negative or
hateful remarks.This is a serious subject! YES!
There are many Mexicans who have Apache or
even Navajo Blood and there are Apaches and
Navajos who have Hispanic Blood in them.Again,
it is a serious & thought provoking subject!
CarlosMacMartin 2 years ago
I say we take our lands back! My great grandfather was apache and never could settle in one place for too long for fear of his life. he would always move from new mwxico to texas to mexico. We don't know when he passed or even where he is buried because he would leave because of the fear.
starkcircus 2 years ago
Apaches went to mexico after the whitees came.
soni408 2 years ago
really?so some mexicans mightbe part apaches?because apaches mixed to survive?
rockboy7789 2 years ago
I didnt say shit about mixing to survive!
soni408 2 years ago
but....did they mix to survive????som of tem????
rockboy7789 2 years ago
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AdrianThePedestrian 2 years ago
The document of Geronimo dead that was made in Oklahoma , you can read born in Arizona or Mexico
mexicantomato40 2 years ago
Naiche is for Nacho a Mexican Apache, historians of US change the name Nacho for Naiche, Geronimo, Vitorio , and Nacho, Juh are Mexican Warriors Apaches, Geronimo was born in Arizpe Sonora Mexico, Vitorio was born near Juarez Mexico was a Mexican kid stole by Apaches, Apaches mostly spoke spanish. because they lived in Mexico
mexicantomato40 2 years ago
Geronimo Goyale was born near the Gila River in Southeastern New Mexico. Victorio was born near the Ojo Caliente in Southern NM. Victorio was not a Nakaye. He was Chihene Nde yes Apaches spoke and speak Spanish.
pmart001 2 years ago 5
In Arizpe Sonora Mexico is the baptize proof of Geronimo , documents on the hand not US historians lies, read the Apaches book of Manuel Rojas, Victorio was not 100 percent apache he was a niño cautivo , stolen kid that was kidnap by apaches
mexicantomato40 2 years ago
iam part apache
turtlelover958 2 years ago
To all Apaches....Please view the video called:
Justice for Geronimo!
CarlosMacMartin 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing Elbys this is a good story to share with our youth.
Dahtiye 3 years ago
Good video. I am not Apache. I am of several different tribes.
denisereaves 3 years ago 3
I love the elders...they are truley inspirational...I am not Apache I am Choctaw but I respect all of our elders the same. Bless
1nativejournalist 3 years ago 2
im related 2 cochise as well as i am cousin of geronimo.
and i might b the very distant grand son of mongus coloradus
gangstaOG2 3 years ago
I am not sure, but I think she did not have any children ! kwj norapache
Norapache 3 years ago
I just asked my friend (the Nachez) that I posted about earlier. Elbys Hugar is his grandmother. So yes, she had kids. At least one son that I know of.
michaelruelas 3 years ago
Doesnt she have any kids or grandchildren?
MEXICAFOLKS 3 years ago
One of my best friends is a young Nachez (he carries this as his last name) living in Mescalero. So if she didn't have kids, somebody else did. The bloodline is still alive I'm thinking :)
michaelruelas 3 years ago
thank you
apachebutterfly 3 years ago 3
do you know monstie?
astraljag 3 years ago
It would help if you posted her name in your
video!I think this is Elbys Hugar(Chiricahua)
from the Mescalero Reservation.She taught the
actors in the movie "The Missing",the Apache
Language for the useage in the movie.A truly
GREAT WOMAN and link to the past.
CarlosMacMartin 3 years ago
it would be a honour to be related to such great native americans,its a tragedy that the white men stole the land from them..
RAWRAMP1 3 years ago 6
...yes, people who trusted the white mans promises of respecting their territories and independence! It is a great shame in the history of USA!
Norapache 3 years ago
their good nature was used against them...
just like american "patriotism" is being used against us today..
JueputaGuebon 3 years ago