I don't believe that the Lutz family was lying the house of course was more than haunted after 6 people were killed in a brutal massacre. The house was clean after psychics and seance was performed after the Lutz left. However, stranger or not the house is always empty for sale even today.
Personally, I believe this house probably did have some residual haunting in the beginning since 6 people died in it and some of their furniture was reused by the Lutz family, but with all the exaggerated claims in books, movies and the Warrens--it's hard to believe anything now.
Only Catholics have been fighting the DEVIL for centuries you know why? Because he brings in the dummies, empty heads and whack jobs who drop money in their collection plate. The only devil there is... is in the human beings mind. Like in the MEN the Priests who r still molesting children INSIDE the church. And the followers allow it, they continue to support instead of BOYCOTTING the church until they remove these freaks. Catholics r evil and create evil.
@deathbyaraven If Catholics are evil then what difference does it make to you whether or not they 'boycott' the church? Even if they get their way they're still Catholic... and therefore oh so very evil.
What sense is there in boycotting a church? You don't pay for it (unless you mean a voluntary tribute) and you'd basically be refusing to openly worship and practice your personal beliefs. Who's that REALLY hurting?
Thanks goodness for today's hi-tech dial touch tone phone services 'cause those rotary phone dialings really killed one's body and mind...So to speak!!!
Who the fuck in there right mind would buy a house where people died it is said that in the bible and I am not so religious but I believe in devine creation that ghost demons ect stay in the dark because they are traped and also dont want there sins to go into the light because if they do they will get persecuted by the devine creation..or be free by the light if you are a good ghost but they are traped by evil so they cant get out all history shows ghost demons ect and people still say its fake
I always wondered if the owner and Amityville are so fed up with the attention that the house draws, why doesn't the owner sell it and then tear it down, unless the town likes the tourests the legend draws to the town and the money they spend in local buisnesses
thats funny he said that when he didn't eat and he lost 25 pounds in a month that he was angry and directed it at the wrong people i.e his wife and family i'm a bodybuilder and when you diet down for a contest and lose fat you get very moody and cold as well due to lack of bodyfat the angry comes from being constantly hungry lol this guy is full of it
Real or not, this was a great episode of In Search Of. I love this show. Nimoy was a great host. Ripley's Believe it or Not with Jack Palance was awesome too. Too bad no one plays this on a TV channel. A channel about the paranormal would be cool. They could play all the old shows plus stuff like Ghost Adventures or TAPS. UFOs, Bigfoot, ghosts, magic, folklore, strange science, and vintage monster movies...that would be a cool TV staition.
These haunted house stories often happen to people who are sufficiently religious to look for priests to bless thei house (look at A Haunting in CT also). Just saying... I grew up in a death house. We never saw anything (because there's nothing to see). But the people who moved in after us that were seriously religious saw plenty of ghosts, in my old room.
There was a bunch of hallucinogens going through the blood stream of some of these adults..on top of the story.. Superstition? It's good decency to destroy a material house, when people are MURDERED There..that's just out of respect.
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James Cromarty, who bought the house in 1977 and lived there with his wife Barbara for ten years, commented: "Nothing weird ever happened, except for people coming by because of the book and the movie
The debate about the accuracy of The Amityville Horror continues, and despite the lack of evidence to corroborate much of the story, it remains one of the most popular haunting accounts in American folklore. The various owners of the house since the Lutz family left in 1976 have reported no problems while living there. .
yea, this was fake as hell. of course the kids claim its true..they get a cut of the royalties. the guy who killed his family says absolutely not. he was baked on numerous drugs as well as heroin, and didnt know what the hell he was doing.
If there existed demons, witches or ghosts then we would have known that for a fact ages ago with the technology we have. This is all a hoax to make money and entertain. There will be murders in the future that are much more horrible than this tale.
The lutz' had a yard sale the day after they "left" the house when all these things happened. Fact...The toilet looked like a common sewer backup...Ive seen it many times being a plumber. Read the AMityville hoax...It interviews the priest and he denies most of this.... Fact that winter in Amityville was the warmest on record hence the flies that were seen...
@Imachowderhead The "sewer backup" you speak of is only in the film. In real life, it was only the porcelain of the toilet that turned black, not the water.
Is "The Amityville Hoax" a book? I'm unfamiliar with a book by that name. The priest never denied this stuff. In fact he appears in this very video confirming his story (and adding that he was slapped - a detail not given in the book or film).
@FriendshipTown Fact 2.Kaplan had discovered that the "Amityville Horror" was pure invention. In 1979, attorney William Weber confessed to his part in the hoax during a paranormal radio show hosted by author Joel Martin. Weber admitted that he and George Lutz had concocted the story of the haunting over a few bottles of wine. Weber's motive was to get a new trial for DeFeo. According to Weber, Lutz merely wanted to get out from under a mortgage he couldnt afford...
@Imachowderhead You see Weber's statement as a confession. I see it as someone looking for free money, thinking, "Hey, if I can convince people it was fiction, and that I helped create it, then I would be in line for part of the profits."
If Weber knew the haunting was fiction, then why did he include a clause in his contract proposal which would have forced the Lutzes to undergo a polygraph (which if they failed meant the rights to their story went to Weber)?
@FriendshipTown There are too many coincidences here for this story to be real. Noone that has lived in this house has stated anything has happened...period. And why is it that father Pecoraro was "reeasigned" and not allowed to practice certain rituals such as exorcisms? I guess you want this to be true..so if I say the sky is blue you'd say its green. And for polygraphs? Are you for real? Polygraphs have been proven to be only 40% reliable...but I guess all my "proof" is not real like yours.
@Imachowderhead I'm not here to prove or disprove the haunting. All I'm doing is pointing out the flaws in the hoax theories I've come across so far.
1) This isn't the only case where a haunting hasn't affected subsequent occupants.
2) Father Pecararo asked to be reassigned because of the media frenzy. (Did his leaving Long Island help the Lutzes' case in some manner? Why do you see it as a coincidence?)
@Imachowderhead Please read and understand the definitions of "proof" and "evidence." Neither of us have proof that the haunting was real or fake.
As for polygraphs, they have not been proven to be 40% reliable - it all comes down to the operator. The polygraph is a tool for the operator, not an automatic truth-telling device that runs on its own. It is up to the operator to ask the right questions at the right time, and it is up to the operator to decipher the polygraph's indicators.
@Imachowderhead The Lutzes did not hold a yard sale. There was an auction of their property. And it wasn't held a day later or even a week later. Get your facts straight before you condemn the whole thing as a hoax.
@Friends Fact 1.Father Pecoraro’s relationship to the case was described in an affidavit from William Daley, the Lutzes’ then-attorney. It read, “Father Ralph J. Pecoraro has indicated that his only contact relating to this case was a telephone call from the Lutzes regarding their psychic experiences.” In fact, William Weber claimed during a radio interview that the priest never even set foot in the house.
@Imachowderhead The key words are "relating to this case." That case was about the Lutzes refusing to participate in William Weber's book deal. It had nothing to do with the validity of the haunting. In other words, the only involvement the priest had in regards to Weber's book deal was a telephone call.
The Lutzes were full of shit. All of their claims were either proven why or proven they were just made up. Actually the more interesting story is about the Defeo's and their massive family dysfunction. Father Defeo was a mean SOB and controlled and beat his family into submission. Read the book,. "The Night the Defeos Died," fascinating stuff! That should be a movie instead of the ghost BS.
@BigDickMcGirk People speculate and theorize to explain the various phenomena encountered by the Lutzes; but no, to date there has been no "proof" to disprove their story. The book "Night the DeFeos Died" has many errors and is based on theories and conjecture which are themselves based on the lies of convicted murderer Ronnie DeFeo and a convicted felon he was once married to.
Visit the forum listed in this video's description to see detailed examples of the mistakes and flaws in that book.
@FriendshipTown I read the Amityville Horror when it came out and it was a scary story, but complete fabrication. No "proof to disprove" is needed. It was a fine fraud. I've always said that George Lutz missed his calling as a horror writer, if he indeed came up with all the things in the book. Pretty imaginative and spooky.
@FriendshipTown Yes, I remember the author's name, Jay Anson. You seem to be saying that Anson had an hand in the story. That would make sense because I find it hard to believe that a working Joe like Lutz would be that imaginative. Better ending? Horror stories usually have bad endings; sets the stage for sequels, and Amityville had SEVERAL.
@BigDickMcGirk Just like Kaplan's "Amityville Conspiracy" book, "The Night the Defeos Died" was written by a hack author who wrote it as revenge when Lutz rejected his proposed book. It's no secret that all the Amityville debunkers were fame-seeking nuts with an axe to grind.
I blame the rocking chair! In most,if not all cases of demonic possession,there's a fricking rocking chair somewhere,just rocking back and forth,doing it's evil little thing,rocking,rocking,rocking! DO NOT HAVE A ROCKING CHAIR IN YOUR HOME!
Course,I could be stark raving looney tunes,but we don't think so,do we,huh? No,we don't!
Grandstanded? Probably, but through all the smoke there is some fire. From all I've read, I believe the core of this case is valid and the Lutzes were victims of demonic psychological attack.
I lived in a home that had probable demonic activity. The movies about this story are obvious hollywood B.S. but the book I read about Ed and Lorraine warren"s investigation of the property seemed plausible based on the level of paranormal negativity I had experienced in the home I had lived in. I can tell you that the paranormal is real as is the extremely negative paranormal. How can one not see that there is evil in the world beyond that which is of humanity's making. Think demons are fake?
I loved In Search Of as a kid. But this is not a true story. Lutz's step son is trying to sue him for lying about the whole thing. As for the crazy dude that killed his family... don't all killers say 'they hear voices'?
@JJbrubaker George Lutz died in 2006. Nobody is suing him. All 3 of the Lutz children (now middle-aged adults) have said the haunting really happened (though it was exaggerated by book authors and hollywood screenwriters).
Ronnie DeFeo (the guy who killed his family there) claimed to hear voices, but his intent wasn't to claim anything supernatural, he was trying to get off on an insanity plea (as in "voices in his head" not demonic voices)...
The real motive for the killings had more to do with the fact Ronnie DeFeo was a very dangerous man who hated his father and wanted the money from his parents life insurance policies, the way I see it is that he planned to only kill his parents that night but one of his siblings witnessed him doing it, so he killed his siblings to eliminate witnesses, it's also known that his insantiy is real and he's lied numerous times about what happened that night
@snakes3425 Yes, I can agree with that. Personally I think the murders had to do with the recent payroll heist. I think his father discovered the truth and was planning to tell.
Ronnie was scheduled for a visit to his parole officer hours after the murders - that seems suspicious, too.
I kinda think Ronnie was so messed up, he killed the father without realizing the family would be witnesses - then simply killed everyone else to hide his crime. It didn't seem planned in advance to me.
Even if he didn't create the whole Voices in his head argument he would still probably have been found not guilty by reason of insanity because like I said he really is mentally disturbed
The haunting is an urban legend, and what made the orginal movie and remake scary was that they never showed the ghost itself, and in the remake they did give the ghost a backstory by bringing in other legends about the house namely that the ghost is that of an insane minster, Rev. Katchem
@snakes3425 Urban legend? "Christopher said it was exaggerated but very real." "All 3 of the Lutz children (now middle-aged adults) have said the haunting really happened ." I'm confused....
@FriendshipTown that was Weber's idea , i think the whole thing was a hoax and that we will never know the whole truth of what happened the night of the murders and as for the haunting , i really think that the Lutzes made it up, did u see the house they owned before they moved there they didn't even make one payment on their mortgage
@the3aremine1 The Lutzes got married earlier that year. George & Kathy each owned their own home. They sold both which enabled them to afford the one in Amityville.
The Lutzes left the Aville house in January. George says he continued making mortgage payments until July or so, as they decided what to do with the house.
Rumor says Weber planned this whole thing out to help with Ronnie's defense. This is BS. Weber denies it and there is no credible evidence supporting this notion.
@Tanner1940 Whether they could afford it or not @cough@ they did not make a payment before it went back to the bank and the so called true story is a load of old bollox
@FriendshipTown Really ? I got that info from an interview with the woman from Conkilng Realty. Either way i still don't believe the story they told. Especially when i saw the differences in the hardback and paperback editions of the book. I think it was just a good scary story but the only scary thing that happened in the house was the killing of the Defeos. Just my opinion
So was the priest for real? He states right there what he experienced, was he lying too? I'm not necessarily saying I'm a believer or not, just simply asking a question.
@guardiantiger24 Christopher said it was exaggerated but very real. All 3 of the Lutz children (now middle-aged adults) have said it was real but exaggerated.
@FriendshipTown Probably two reasons for this: One is they probably don't want their family to appear as complete liars, and two, they might believe they can still make a nickel or two still off the story if they don't completely debunk it. It was all bullshit, but clever I must say.
@FriendshipTown It was a complete and utter hoax. The fact that you believe otherwise makes me question your intelligence/motives. And such a book as you mentioned wouldn't sell or get published.
@UnseenCaller Yes, I *tend* to believe the Lutzes' story, but am open to any serious hoax evidence. So far all the hoax evidence I've seen just doesn't add up and often contradicts itself. Meanwhile the statements and actions of the Lutz family do not seem consistent with this all being a hoax.
I do have serious doubts about the existence of ghosts, but to allow that to color my judgment would be intellectually dishonest.
@FriendshipTown Fact 3) William Weber looked at The Lutz' financial records and proved that georges business was failing miserably. There were over 6 witnesses that report the Lutz' goin back to the home and indeed having a yardsale and "laughing" it up in the homes front yard. Is that enough "facts" for you?
@Imachowderhead Can you give me the source which talks about 6 witnesses at the yard sale with the Lutzes? There is a lot of BS revolving around Amityville, but I've never heard that one yet.
Obviously you know who Kaplan is, right? And you know he thinks the haunting was a sham. Why don't you crack open Kaplan's book and turn to page 41 where he describes visiting the house on April 10th as they were setting up for the auction? That was 3 months after the Lutzes fled...
I drove by the house on ocean ave and it's looks pretty nice but the driveway configurations sucks two drives ways one is the neighbors and the other belongs to 112 defeo should of shot the person who designed it that way. The bar up the street is gone also
They claimed they fled the house during a huge storm and weather records show it was a clear night.
The trial lawyer for Butch De Feo admitted that he and the Lutzes came up with the idea of claiming the house was demonically possessed because he thought he might be able to use reports like that to sway the jury into believing De Feo was possessed and use an insanity plea.
To me a much more interesting thing is the De Feo murders themselves. Some odd circumstances there.
99% made up.The furnace broke down when they moved in but they never fixed it(thus George always burning fires for heat).Money problem?Why not fix it? ONE spooky story is that her brother had a $1000 or so turns up MISSING..and of course this was blamed on the 'ghosts'.Could the Lutz's really afford to pay the mortgage?The black ooze?Black finger print powder that was left EVERYWHERE in the house and stained the toilets and sinks.Back then Police didn't clean up crime scenes after very well.
I like how you explain why George was always burning fires. But why even believe that? It's just the Lutzes' word that he was always in front of the fireplace.
Do the Lutzes need to combine real events with fantasy for this to work?
There is no proof that George sat in front of the fire or of the toilets turning black or the money being lost. The only reason for giving such explanations is to suggest that the Lutzes simply misinterpreted the events. And that is clearly not your position.
The Lutzes claim there were wild temperature differences in different rooms of the house. They said they had repairmen to the house to check out the furnace. The repairmen said the furnace was fine.
An unnamed source in a local paper said the Lutzes' told them that their furnace was broken. Who knows if this was told to the friend at all, or perhaps before the repairmen came to the house.
If the Lutzes were having such serious money problems within weeks of buying the house, this would have been discovered during their loan application process.
The Lutzes claim they made the mortgage payments on their Amityville house even after moving to California.
And if they had such dire financial problems, how did they afford their new home in sunny Southern California?
The Lutzes claim there was a black epoxy-like substance that formed from certain keyholes like stalactites. It was a hardened substance, not ooze, but they would seem to grow longer from day to day, though no one ever found them in a moistened state.
There was no black stuff in the sinks.
The porcelain on the inside of the toilet turned black, but the water remained clear. This wouldn't be caused by fingerprint powder introduced over a year prior.
Yes, I agree with your assertion that the Lutzes misinterpreted ALL events.If you run down the court documents and police records.EVERYTHING was explainable down to the "pig" Jodie (was the fat neighbor cat who sat on windows sills).Kathy said George became 'obsessed' with heating the house and chopping wood for it. Everything in the movie and book was exaggerated. The police were sloppy, excess powder had been dumped into one of the toilet tanks.The Lutzes scared themselves.
I am saying that your argument is all over the place. You are arguing that the haunting was a hoax AND you are arguing that the Lutzes simply misinterpreted normal events as being supernatural.
So did they make it all up, or did they really think their home was haunted? You seem to suggest both. How can both be true?
hmmm...I have never used the word Hoax. I believe they misinterpreted events and scared themselves. They let Butch Defeo's lawyer guided them into a 'haunted house' story. Unintended deception? most likely. Again...all events can be explained with logic. If you pump yourself up with fear...you can create paranormal events out of explainable things. I used the example of the albino racoon in our neighborhood. People thought it was a ghost at night but it was just a raccoon. Eyes play tricks.
it's most DEFINITELY a hoax. DaFeo's lawyer and Lutz had books, movies, and the limelight planned from the start. They all got rich, until Lutz was sued out of most of his money. Don't even get me started on those crooked Warrens...
Your question Friendship Town is simple.Everything that the Lutz's claimed was BS.Half the events that took place were chalked to supernatural because that was an easy explanation.In the end they capitalized on their stupidity.Several people have lived that house since and NONE of them ever had a problem.The murder that happened before they moved in was all about a junkie son unwilling to accept no from his rich father,when he asked for money,obviously to buy more drugs Simple.
If you can, find the Good Housekeeping article that came out a few years before Jay Anson's book. I think that this may be the only factual telling of what happened to the Lutz's in 112 Ocean Avenue.
@thegirl44 Id love to read that; any link to it? I find this whole Amityville Horror story totally fascinating; its a mystery which has endured over 30 years, amazing really.
Hey, you're my buddy from the Sid and Nancy videos. How are you doing?
I haven't been able to find an online link but I know that the copy that I read was obtained directly from Good Housekeeping for a small printing charge. I would imagine that if you call the 1-800 line on the editorial page of the magazine you'd be able to score a copy, too.
I'm still keeping my eyes open for it online, though. If I come accross it you'll be the first person that I send the link to.
Despite (all) the controversy (surrounding the Amityville Horror), it's one of my favorite horror movies! In my opinion, it "edges" out a number of today's (so-called) "horror" movies!
I have no doubt in MY mind that the book is a load of shit, but I do believe that the Lutz' may have experienced something sinister inside the house. I think that when someone approached them and told them that they could make alot of money out of the story, they fabricated some details to make it more sensational. Maybe they didn't realise just how sensational Jay Anson would make out that it was.
I believe the Lutz family. but the media exploited them. I believe that house is cursed. to those who do not believe this story I dare you to do a seance on that property then tell us what happens.
The real story WAS NOT A LIE!! The real-life Lutz family and the priest still claim the house was evil--not necessarily haunted. Haunted usually means ghosts or spirits of the dead. Evil usually deals with demons and Satan. They do say the movie created a lot of fictional things that didn't really happen--but overall the story is still based on an actual event or story!
The priest testified in court, for one of the many cases where the Lutz's were sued, that none of the events in the book in regards to his actions were true
The book fictionalized a lot of supposedly what happened, in turn so did the movie. Perhaps some of what happened to the priest in the book/movie was fictionalized. But, from what I've read/heard over the years, the Lutz family and the preist do think something evil (not necessarily what Hollywood's idea of evil is) was in the house.
I don't doubt something was wrong with that house after what happened with the DeFeo family, before the Lutz's moved in!
I've read that too, but I wonder who is speaking in the interview on this program. Is it the same man, and, if so, why is he corroborating what was said in the book?
this whole story was a LIE the Lutz came forward to tell it was a lie cause they could no longer afford the mortgage hmmmm.......Defao the former owners eldest son killed entire family he "claims" he was possessed, hmmmmm......don't believe everything you hear even preist can lie!
No member of the Lutz family said the haunting was a hoax. They all maintain it was real. George claimed he paid the mortgage for 6 or 7 months after they fled.
DeFeo NEVER claimed he was possessed. During the trial he was trying to convince the jury that he was insane. Some mistake that for a claim of possession.
During an interview with Hans Holzer, DeFeo said he *may* have been possessed, but later admitted he got paid for that interview and was just telling Holzer what he wanted to hear.
I read where the Lutz's were into TM (Transcendental Meditation) at the time all this started and it called Evil Spirits upon them.
The fact that all the owners after the Lutz's moved out reported nothing sinister just means that the Evil Spirits were connected to the Lutz family and NOT the house per se.
A cruel hoax. I wonder why the Defeo Family and other heirs did not sue the living daylights out of all involved. Louis Defeo's father Michael Brigante owned the Buick dealership in Coney Island.
About the phone. Why didn't Kathy ever just drive out and speak to the priest in person? She could drive and at that point George was still somewhat stable.
The priest did bless the house when the Lutz's first moved in. But he said there was a deep demonic voice telling him to get out, and he ran from the house. He never went back, although he wanted to
I agree completely with that -- only "they" are not the Lutzes, but Jay Anson (the author of the book) and the Hollywood screenwriters.
Jay Anson took the Lutzes' story, rearranged events and added a bit of fiction to make the story more exciting. For the movie, the screenwriters added more fiction.
The book is generally pretty accurate, though. The main bits of fiction: no slime oozing down the walls, no pit to hell or face seen in the red room, and the family didn't flee in the night.
wow, I just saw a video where the family that moved in after the lutz, and the wife said that she spoke to that priest, and she said the priest had nothing strange to say about the house
No. You're referring to the "That's Incredible" video. Mrs Cromarty did not talk to the priest. She heard that the priest testified in court that the book was untrue and that he did not suffer from the afflictions mentioned.
This is immediately followed by a voiceover saying, "Transcript of the trial does not reflect the denial by the priest. In fact, no specific mention is made of sores and afflictions that he suffered either pro or con."
Quit whining. This was dark to begin with and was originally taped almost 20 years ago onto videotape at the slow speed. I'm surprised it came out as watchable as it did.
According to the story, supposedly just the priest.
Are you aware that not one of the families who have occupied the home since the Lutz's frantic escape; have ever experienced any paranormal events? The only reason they moved out was due to lack of privacy from trespassing tourists and the media.
I find it very hard to believe that the spirits were suddenly at rest after the Lutz departure. Haunted houses and locations tend to remain haunted.
Did you know the Lutzes never made a frantic escape After the events of that last night, they phoned the priest to come and rebless the house, because they didn't want to spend another night like that last one. Instead, the priest suggested they simply spend the night in another location.
Their heads were so clouded at the time, this simple idea never occurred to them. They packed a few changes of clothes and went to stay at their in-laws, hoping to get the house fixed so they could move back.
The Lutzes had many paranormal organizations and people visit the house to see if it could be "fixed." One such person was Dr Heffernan, who was absolutely sure he could clear the house - and once cleared you would smell violets.
George didn't smell violets, but rather smelled that "cheap perfume" that would come and go in the house. He was very distrustful of Heffernan.
But maybe that ended up working after all. I think this was the Lutzes' last attempt to fix the house before moving to CA.
Possibly, but to my knowledge exorcisms of homes are almost always only temporarily successful. The evil spirits (or whatever) will often return and resume the previous activities. I was surprised to learn that none of the later owners of "the house" ever experienced anything at all out of the ordinary except constant knocking at their door from curious tourists. When it comes to real demonic hauntings, it would be highly unlikely that the spirits would not return and cause trouble.
I don't know. Do we know enough about how spirits act to publish a rule book for them? Scientifically we can't even prove spirits exist, so how do we know what they should or shouldn't do or be able to do?
The Lutzes still had paranormal incidents after leaving New York -- not as strong as when they were in Amityville, but maybe this means the evil followed them. I really don't know.
Thier are also people who study this stuff who say evil will sometimes just stop,or rest.This could of happend also.Some skeptics could have evil physically kick them right in the ass,and they still wouldnt believe it ya know lol.
I was really looking forward to a tricorder analysis of the red room. Mr. Spock should have at least attempted a mind meld with the home's infrastructure. I mean, heck...he's in search of the truth here!
If you have ever experienced any paranormal events then you would know that this story most definately rings as true.
I grew up in a house where we heard voices coming from our unfinished attic, saw things (a 3 and a half foot troll looking person wearing a dark gray or black cape) and have had my car keys disappear for short periods of time only to have them reappear in the same place I left them previously.
At first you question what you see ... but when other family mbrs also see it.
I don't believe that the Lutz family was lying the house of course was more than haunted after 6 people were killed in a brutal massacre. The house was clean after psychics and seance was performed after the Lutz left. However, stranger or not the house is always empty for sale even today.
youfilha 1 week ago
Why can't Hollywood make TV shows like this anymore? Ah, the good ol' days when TV was worth watching.
Beatles0223 2 weeks ago
Personally, I believe this house probably did have some residual haunting in the beginning since 6 people died in it and some of their furniture was reused by the Lutz family, but with all the exaggerated claims in books, movies and the Warrens--it's hard to believe anything now.
stewiedog01 3 months ago
Oh man I so loved this show...thanks for the memories...thanks for posting. :)
Shalebridge 3 months ago
a bunch of bullshit
Dougy345 4 months ago
Only Catholics have been fighting the DEVIL for centuries you know why? Because he brings in the dummies, empty heads and whack jobs who drop money in their collection plate. The only devil there is... is in the human beings mind. Like in the MEN the Priests who r still molesting children INSIDE the church. And the followers allow it, they continue to support instead of BOYCOTTING the church until they remove these freaks. Catholics r evil and create evil.
deathbyaraven 5 months ago
@deathbyaraven If Catholics are evil then what difference does it make to you whether or not they 'boycott' the church? Even if they get their way they're still Catholic... and therefore oh so very evil.
What sense is there in boycotting a church? You don't pay for it (unless you mean a voluntary tribute) and you'd basically be refusing to openly worship and practice your personal beliefs. Who's that REALLY hurting?
JXT71 5 months ago
Thanks goodness for today's hi-tech dial touch tone phone services 'cause those rotary phone dialings really killed one's body and mind...So to speak!!!
phambo101 5 months ago
that's not a faulty phone connection that's you messing with the phone .
MrLinolinares 5 months ago in playlist The Real Amityville Horror
I he couldn't get through on the phone, why didn't the priest just drive over to the Lutzs' house???
nikemac84 6 months ago
Who the fuck in there right mind would buy a house where people died it is said that in the bible and I am not so religious but I believe in devine creation that ghost demons ect stay in the dark because they are traped and also dont want there sins to go into the light because if they do they will get persecuted by the devine creation..or be free by the light if you are a good ghost but they are traped by evil so they cant get out all history shows ghost demons ect and people still say its fake
chess747 6 months ago
@chess747 i would buy the amityville house if i had the 1.3 mil its going for
Firebirdschild84111 4 months ago 2
This was such a fun show.
Edubbplate 6 months ago
I always wondered if the owner and Amityville are so fed up with the attention that the house draws, why doesn't the owner sell it and then tear it down, unless the town likes the tourests the legend draws to the town and the money they spend in local buisnesses
snakes3425 6 months ago
@snakes3425 there are 2 new documentarys coming out and a 3d film lol
Wildchild880 6 months ago
thats funny he said that when he didn't eat and he lost 25 pounds in a month that he was angry and directed it at the wrong people i.e his wife and family i'm a bodybuilder and when you diet down for a contest and lose fat you get very moody and cold as well due to lack of bodyfat the angry comes from being constantly hungry lol this guy is full of it
Stachio 6 months ago
It's life spock, but not as we know it !
billytk247 6 months ago in playlist The Real Amityville Horror
Real or not, this was a great episode of In Search Of. I love this show. Nimoy was a great host. Ripley's Believe it or Not with Jack Palance was awesome too. Too bad no one plays this on a TV channel. A channel about the paranormal would be cool. They could play all the old shows plus stuff like Ghost Adventures or TAPS. UFOs, Bigfoot, ghosts, magic, folklore, strange science, and vintage monster movies...that would be a cool TV staition.
TheModok 7 months ago 4
These haunted house stories often happen to people who are sufficiently religious to look for priests to bless thei house (look at A Haunting in CT also). Just saying... I grew up in a death house. We never saw anything (because there's nothing to see). But the people who moved in after us that were seriously religious saw plenty of ghosts, in my old room.
jenlinc2006 7 months ago
There was a bunch of hallucinogens going through the blood stream of some of these adults..on top of the story.. Superstition? It's good decency to destroy a material house, when people are MURDERED There..that's just out of respect.
MushroomMountainGoat 8 months ago
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CAMARO30082 8 months ago
Didn't ronald Defeo change his story. First the voices, then he claimed Dawn Defeo did it and he killed her? Just asking.
daytraderfbf 9 months ago
James Cromarty, who bought the house in 1977 and lived there with his wife Barbara for ten years, commented: "Nothing weird ever happened, except for people coming by because of the book and the movie
Celluloidkid 9 months ago
@Celluloidkid Correct. When the Cromarty's lived there the only hauntings they got were from trespassers.
daytraderfbf 9 months ago
@daytraderfbf why, where you living with them at the time? you sound sooo confident, yet you are just a hack with conjecture in front of a keyboard.
MushroomMountainGoat 8 months ago
@MushroomMountainGoat I saw an interview they did with the Cromarty's.
daytraderfbf 8 months ago
@MushroomMountainGoat Or maybe because ghosts and hauntings are utterly ludicrous. No such thing.
SCROGY 8 months ago
The debate about the accuracy of The Amityville Horror continues, and despite the lack of evidence to corroborate much of the story, it remains one of the most popular haunting accounts in American folklore. The various owners of the house since the Lutz family left in 1976 have reported no problems while living there. .
Celluloidkid 9 months ago
"In Search Of' scared the crap out of me as a kid!!
Celluloidkid 9 months ago
@Celluloidkid me too especially this one
Kikuga 9 months ago
I say its haunted, they say it isn't, but if ur lamp is still on after retiring for the night, you can bet ur sweet bippy, you were sold. :)
jabrown45100 9 months ago
yea, this was fake as hell. of course the kids claim its true..they get a cut of the royalties. the guy who killed his family says absolutely not. he was baked on numerous drugs as well as heroin, and didnt know what the hell he was doing.
SeerSucker1981 10 months ago
If there existed demons, witches or ghosts then we would have known that for a fact ages ago with the technology we have. This is all a hoax to make money and entertain. There will be murders in the future that are much more horrible than this tale.
magicmojoman 10 months ago
U'll see commenters posssessed by demons on here....:(
Licmycat 10 months ago
The lutz' had a yard sale the day after they "left" the house when all these things happened. Fact...The toilet looked like a common sewer backup...Ive seen it many times being a plumber. Read the AMityville hoax...It interviews the priest and he denies most of this.... Fact that winter in Amityville was the warmest on record hence the flies that were seen...
Imachowderhead 11 months ago
@Imachowderhead The "sewer backup" you speak of is only in the film. In real life, it was only the porcelain of the toilet that turned black, not the water.
Is "The Amityville Hoax" a book? I'm unfamiliar with a book by that name. The priest never denied this stuff. In fact he appears in this very video confirming his story (and adding that he was slapped - a detail not given in the book or film).
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@FriendshipTown Fact 2.Kaplan had discovered that the "Amityville Horror" was pure invention. In 1979, attorney William Weber confessed to his part in the hoax during a paranormal radio show hosted by author Joel Martin. Weber admitted that he and George Lutz had concocted the story of the haunting over a few bottles of wine. Weber's motive was to get a new trial for DeFeo. According to Weber, Lutz merely wanted to get out from under a mortgage he couldnt afford...
Imachowderhead 10 months ago
@Imachowderhead You see Weber's statement as a confession. I see it as someone looking for free money, thinking, "Hey, if I can convince people it was fiction, and that I helped create it, then I would be in line for part of the profits."
If Weber knew the haunting was fiction, then why did he include a clause in his contract proposal which would have forced the Lutzes to undergo a polygraph (which if they failed meant the rights to their story went to Weber)?
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@FriendshipTown There are too many coincidences here for this story to be real. Noone that has lived in this house has stated anything has happened...period. And why is it that father Pecoraro was "reeasigned" and not allowed to practice certain rituals such as exorcisms? I guess you want this to be true..so if I say the sky is blue you'd say its green. And for polygraphs? Are you for real? Polygraphs have been proven to be only 40% reliable...but I guess all my "proof" is not real like yours.
Imachowderhead 10 months ago
@Imachowderhead I'm not here to prove or disprove the haunting. All I'm doing is pointing out the flaws in the hoax theories I've come across so far.
1) This isn't the only case where a haunting hasn't affected subsequent occupants.
2) Father Pecararo asked to be reassigned because of the media frenzy. (Did his leaving Long Island help the Lutzes' case in some manner? Why do you see it as a coincidence?)
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@Imachowderhead Please read and understand the definitions of "proof" and "evidence." Neither of us have proof that the haunting was real or fake.
As for polygraphs, they have not been proven to be 40% reliable - it all comes down to the operator. The polygraph is a tool for the operator, not an automatic truth-telling device that runs on its own. It is up to the operator to ask the right questions at the right time, and it is up to the operator to decipher the polygraph's indicators.
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@FriendshipTown In fantasy land with papa smurf too
Imachowderhead 10 months ago
The Lutz's DID return to the house ... the morning after they "fled in fear" they held a yard sale. True story indeed....
Imachowderhead 11 months ago
@Imachowderhead The Lutzes did not hold a yard sale. There was an auction of their property. And it wasn't held a day later or even a week later. Get your facts straight before you condemn the whole thing as a hoax.
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@Friends Fact 1.Father Pecoraro’s relationship to the case was described in an affidavit from William Daley, the Lutzes’ then-attorney. It read, “Father Ralph J. Pecoraro has indicated that his only contact relating to this case was a telephone call from the Lutzes regarding their psychic experiences.” In fact, William Weber claimed during a radio interview that the priest never even set foot in the house.
Imachowderhead 10 months ago
@Imachowderhead The key words are "relating to this case." That case was about the Lutzes refusing to participate in William Weber's book deal. It had nothing to do with the validity of the haunting. In other words, the only involvement the priest had in regards to Weber's book deal was a telephone call.
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
Great show...you dont see shows like in search of anymore
Imachowderhead 11 months ago
was the house haunted by frankenstein?
HaulinHearse 1 year ago
The Lutzes were full of shit. All of their claims were either proven why or proven they were just made up. Actually the more interesting story is about the Defeo's and their massive family dysfunction. Father Defeo was a mean SOB and controlled and beat his family into submission. Read the book,. "The Night the Defeos Died," fascinating stuff! That should be a movie instead of the ghost BS.
BigDickMcGirk 1 year ago
@BigDickMcGirk People speculate and theorize to explain the various phenomena encountered by the Lutzes; but no, to date there has been no "proof" to disprove their story. The book "Night the DeFeos Died" has many errors and is based on theories and conjecture which are themselves based on the lies of convicted murderer Ronnie DeFeo and a convicted felon he was once married to.
Visit the forum listed in this video's description to see detailed examples of the mistakes and flaws in that book.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago
@FriendshipTown I read the Amityville Horror when it came out and it was a scary story, but complete fabrication. No "proof to disprove" is needed. It was a fine fraud. I've always said that George Lutz missed his calling as a horror writer, if he indeed came up with all the things in the book. Pretty imaginative and spooky.
UnseenCaller 10 months ago
@UnseenCaller No "proof to disprove" is needed? So essentially you are saying you just "think" it was fake... Well that's just fine.
And just FYI, George didn't write the book. It was written by a fellow named Jay Anson.
I think if this was a fictional story, they would have had a better ending.
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@FriendshipTown Yes, I remember the author's name, Jay Anson. You seem to be saying that Anson had an hand in the story. That would make sense because I find it hard to believe that a working Joe like Lutz would be that imaginative. Better ending? Horror stories usually have bad endings; sets the stage for sequels, and Amityville had SEVERAL.
UnseenCaller 10 months ago
@BigDickMcGirk Just like Kaplan's "Amityville Conspiracy" book, "The Night the Defeos Died" was written by a hack author who wrote it as revenge when Lutz rejected his proposed book. It's no secret that all the Amityville debunkers were fame-seeking nuts with an axe to grind.
Sirand 1 year ago
I blame the rocking chair! In most,if not all cases of demonic possession,there's a fricking rocking chair somewhere,just rocking back and forth,doing it's evil little thing,rocking,rocking,rocking! DO NOT HAVE A ROCKING CHAIR IN YOUR HOME!
Course,I could be stark raving looney tunes,but we don't think so,do we,huh? No,we don't!
Call me Legion,for we are many!
popazz1 1 year ago
Grandstanded? Probably, but through all the smoke there is some fire. From all I've read, I believe the core of this case is valid and the Lutzes were victims of demonic psychological attack.
hunternieuport 1 year ago
Thank you friendship town....that was great.
Cna132 1 year ago
Is it just me or did the priest sound like woody allen???
bonesmccoy1 1 year ago
I lived in a home that had probable demonic activity. The movies about this story are obvious hollywood B.S. but the book I read about Ed and Lorraine warren"s investigation of the property seemed plausible based on the level of paranormal negativity I had experienced in the home I had lived in. I can tell you that the paranormal is real as is the extremely negative paranormal. How can one not see that there is evil in the world beyond that which is of humanity's making. Think demons are fake?
heartfire451 1 year ago
I loved In Search Of as a kid. But this is not a true story. Lutz's step son is trying to sue him for lying about the whole thing. As for the crazy dude that killed his family... don't all killers say 'they hear voices'?
JJbrubaker 1 year ago 2
@JJbrubaker George Lutz died in 2006. Nobody is suing him. All 3 of the Lutz children (now middle-aged adults) have said the haunting really happened (though it was exaggerated by book authors and hollywood screenwriters).
Ronnie DeFeo (the guy who killed his family there) claimed to hear voices, but his intent wasn't to claim anything supernatural, he was trying to get off on an insanity plea (as in "voices in his head" not demonic voices)...
FriendshipTown 1 year ago 5
@FriendshipTown
The real motive for the killings had more to do with the fact Ronnie DeFeo was a very dangerous man who hated his father and wanted the money from his parents life insurance policies, the way I see it is that he planned to only kill his parents that night but one of his siblings witnessed him doing it, so he killed his siblings to eliminate witnesses, it's also known that his insantiy is real and he's lied numerous times about what happened that night
snakes3425 7 months ago
@snakes3425 Yes, I can agree with that. Personally I think the murders had to do with the recent payroll heist. I think his father discovered the truth and was planning to tell.
Ronnie was scheduled for a visit to his parole officer hours after the murders - that seems suspicious, too.
I kinda think Ronnie was so messed up, he killed the father without realizing the family would be witnesses - then simply killed everyone else to hide his crime. It didn't seem planned in advance to me.
Tanner1940 7 months ago
@Tanner1940
Even if he didn't create the whole Voices in his head argument he would still probably have been found not guilty by reason of insanity because like I said he really is mentally disturbed
The haunting is an urban legend, and what made the orginal movie and remake scary was that they never showed the ghost itself, and in the remake they did give the ghost a backstory by bringing in other legends about the house namely that the ghost is that of an insane minster, Rev. Katchem
snakes3425 7 months ago
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@snakes3425 Urban legend? "Christopher said it was exaggerated but very real." "All 3 of the Lutz children (now middle-aged adults) have said the haunting really happened ." I'm confused....
666flatliner 6 months ago in playlist in search of
@FriendshipTown that was Weber's idea , i think the whole thing was a hoax and that we will never know the whole truth of what happened the night of the murders and as for the haunting , i really think that the Lutzes made it up, did u see the house they owned before they moved there they didn't even make one payment on their mortgage
the3aremine1 6 months ago
@the3aremine1 The Lutzes got married earlier that year. George & Kathy each owned their own home. They sold both which enabled them to afford the one in Amityville.
The Lutzes left the Aville house in January. George says he continued making mortgage payments until July or so, as they decided what to do with the house.
Rumor says Weber planned this whole thing out to help with Ronnie's defense. This is BS. Weber denies it and there is no credible evidence supporting this notion.
Tanner1940 6 months ago
@Tanner1940 Whether they could afford it or not @cough@ they did not make a payment before it went back to the bank and the so called true story is a load of old bollox
the3aremine1 6 months ago
@the3aremine1 The claim that the Lutzes failed to make a payment on the house is pure speculation.
FriendshipTown 6 months ago
@FriendshipTown Really ? I got that info from an interview with the woman from Conkilng Realty. Either way i still don't believe the story they told. Especially when i saw the differences in the hardback and paperback editions of the book. I think it was just a good scary story but the only scary thing that happened in the house was the killing of the Defeos. Just my opinion
the3aremine1 6 months ago
@the3aremine1 I'd love to see that interview. Let me know if you remember where the interview was featured.
FriendshipTown 6 months ago
@FriendshipTown ok, looking for it now, and e mailed cousin who is into this stuff more than me :-)
the3aremine1 6 months ago
John Lithgow narrating?
tjmady 1 year ago
@tjmady Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek fame in the same era.
embracingreality 1 year ago
@embracingreality Aw yeah. I should of know. I love Star Trek.
tjmady 1 year ago
5:08...Question: Why are the supernatual obsessive with rocking a rocking chair? I've seen this countless times. Lazy spirits maybe?
05221956js 1 year ago 2
WOW, seriously cant hardly see anything. but anyway who would want to buy a house that they new people was murdered in?
GhostInTheShell09 1 year ago
So was the priest for real? He states right there what he experienced, was he lying too? I'm not necessarily saying I'm a believer or not, just simply asking a question.
skeptic91 1 year ago 2
@skeptic91 According to George, that was the real priest who was interviewed. The priest is thought to have died sometime in the 1990s.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago
I knew one of the sons of the Lutzes and he confirmed this was all faked...
guardiantiger24 1 year ago
@guardiantiger24 which son? He said 100% of it was fake or just parts of it?
HeatherRaeEstes 1 year ago
@HeatherRaeEstes The youngest...and he said only very little was true.
guardiantiger24 1 year ago
@guardiantiger24 Christopher said it was exaggerated but very real. All 3 of the Lutz children (now middle-aged adults) have said it was real but exaggerated.
FriendshipTown 1 year ago 6
@FriendshipTown Probably two reasons for this: One is they probably don't want their family to appear as complete liars, and two, they might believe they can still make a nickel or two still off the story if they don't completely debunk it. It was all bullshit, but clever I must say.
UnseenCaller 10 months ago
@UnseenCaller If it was a hoax, I think they could make money with a tell-all book. "How My Parents Fooled the World."
Whether the kids come forward or stay in the shadows, you'll say "this proves it was a hoax" either way...
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@FriendshipTown It was a complete and utter hoax. The fact that you believe otherwise makes me question your intelligence/motives. And such a book as you mentioned wouldn't sell or get published.
UnseenCaller 10 months ago
@UnseenCaller Yes, I *tend* to believe the Lutzes' story, but am open to any serious hoax evidence. So far all the hoax evidence I've seen just doesn't add up and often contradicts itself. Meanwhile the statements and actions of the Lutz family do not seem consistent with this all being a hoax.
I do have serious doubts about the existence of ghosts, but to allow that to color my judgment would be intellectually dishonest.
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
@FriendshipTown Fact 3) William Weber looked at The Lutz' financial records and proved that georges business was failing miserably. There were over 6 witnesses that report the Lutz' goin back to the home and indeed having a yardsale and "laughing" it up in the homes front yard. Is that enough "facts" for you?
Imachowderhead 10 months ago
@Imachowderhead Can you give me the source which talks about 6 witnesses at the yard sale with the Lutzes? There is a lot of BS revolving around Amityville, but I've never heard that one yet.
Obviously you know who Kaplan is, right? And you know he thinks the haunting was a sham. Why don't you crack open Kaplan's book and turn to page 41 where he describes visiting the house on April 10th as they were setting up for the auction? That was 3 months after the Lutzes fled...
FriendshipTown 10 months ago
I love this! This makes me feel 7 again!
GreenGestalt 1 year ago
The flies threw a massive party and didn't invite me!
bandet888 1 year ago
Amityville was bullshit. These shows are still fun to watch though.
DejectedPanda 1 year ago
This is interesting, thanks for putting this up!
cushingpushing 1 year ago
I drove by the house on ocean ave and it's looks pretty nice but the driveway configurations sucks two drives ways one is the neighbors and the other belongs to 112 defeo should of shot the person who designed it that way. The bar up the street is gone also
neil7025 2 years ago
(cont).
They claimed they fled the house during a huge storm and weather records show it was a clear night.
The trial lawyer for Butch De Feo admitted that he and the Lutzes came up with the idea of claiming the house was demonically possessed because he thought he might be able to use reports like that to sway the jury into believing De Feo was possessed and use an insanity plea.
To me a much more interesting thing is the De Feo murders themselves. Some odd circumstances there.
DavePerry2012 2 years ago
To clarify: the claim was made in the book that they ran away on a stormy night.
DavePerry2012 2 years ago
If any of this is true, then why have later owners not complained of any problems?
The book says the front door was ripped off the hinges but the original door appears to be there and undamaged.
The house may be haunted--six murders happened there, but the reports in the book are clearly exaggerrated.
DavePerry2012 2 years ago
hey do people say there was an actraul passage to hell? thats the one part that scared the shit out of me.
TheJonMaster 2 years ago
99% made up.The furnace broke down when they moved in but they never fixed it(thus George always burning fires for heat).Money problem?Why not fix it? ONE spooky story is that her brother had a $1000 or so turns up MISSING..and of course this was blamed on the 'ghosts'.Could the Lutz's really afford to pay the mortgage?The black ooze?Black finger print powder that was left EVERYWHERE in the house and stained the toilets and sinks.Back then Police didn't clean up crime scenes after very well.
marcusa222 2 years ago
I like how you explain why George was always burning fires. But why even believe that? It's just the Lutzes' word that he was always in front of the fireplace.
Do the Lutzes need to combine real events with fantasy for this to work?
There is no proof that George sat in front of the fire or of the toilets turning black or the money being lost. The only reason for giving such explanations is to suggest that the Lutzes simply misinterpreted the events. And that is clearly not your position.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
The Lutzes claim there were wild temperature differences in different rooms of the house. They said they had repairmen to the house to check out the furnace. The repairmen said the furnace was fine.
An unnamed source in a local paper said the Lutzes' told them that their furnace was broken. Who knows if this was told to the friend at all, or perhaps before the repairmen came to the house.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
If the Lutzes were having such serious money problems within weeks of buying the house, this would have been discovered during their loan application process.
The Lutzes claim they made the mortgage payments on their Amityville house even after moving to California.
And if they had such dire financial problems, how did they afford their new home in sunny Southern California?
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Regarding the black ooze - there was none.
The Lutzes claim there was a black epoxy-like substance that formed from certain keyholes like stalactites. It was a hardened substance, not ooze, but they would seem to grow longer from day to day, though no one ever found them in a moistened state.
There was no black stuff in the sinks.
The porcelain on the inside of the toilet turned black, but the water remained clear. This wouldn't be caused by fingerprint powder introduced over a year prior.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
@FriendshipTown
Yes, I agree with your assertion that the Lutzes misinterpreted ALL events.If you run down the court documents and police records.EVERYTHING was explainable down to the "pig" Jodie (was the fat neighbor cat who sat on windows sills).Kathy said George became 'obsessed' with heating the house and chopping wood for it. Everything in the movie and book was exaggerated. The police were sloppy, excess powder had been dumped into one of the toilet tanks.The Lutzes scared themselves.
marcusa222 2 years ago 2
@marcusa222
That is not my assertion.
I am saying that your argument is all over the place. You are arguing that the haunting was a hoax AND you are arguing that the Lutzes simply misinterpreted normal events as being supernatural.
So did they make it all up, or did they really think their home was haunted? You seem to suggest both. How can both be true?
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
hmmm...I have never used the word Hoax. I believe they misinterpreted events and scared themselves. They let Butch Defeo's lawyer guided them into a 'haunted house' story. Unintended deception? most likely. Again...all events can be explained with logic. If you pump yourself up with fear...you can create paranormal events out of explainable things. I used the example of the albino racoon in our neighborhood. People thought it was a ghost at night but it was just a raccoon. Eyes play tricks.
marcusa222 2 years ago
it's most DEFINITELY a hoax. DaFeo's lawyer and Lutz had books, movies, and the limelight planned from the start. They all got rich, until Lutz was sued out of most of his money. Don't even get me started on those crooked Warrens...
JGDMFB 1 year ago
@FriendshipTown good points and well constructed argument,you have a point
skunkkey666 1 year ago
@FriendshipTown
Your question Friendship Town is simple.Everything that the Lutz's claimed was BS.Half the events that took place were chalked to supernatural because that was an easy explanation.In the end they capitalized on their stupidity.Several people have lived that house since and NONE of them ever had a problem.The murder that happened before they moved in was all about a junkie son unwilling to accept no from his rich father,when he asked for money,obviously to buy more drugs Simple.
Kehmet14 1 year ago
I think the whole story being fabricated makes a lot more sense than saying they thought a neighbor cat was some kind of demon entity.
Even one of the Lutz children (as an a adult) supposedly said most of it was made up.
DavePerry2012 2 years ago
If you can, find the Good Housekeeping article that came out a few years before Jay Anson's book. I think that this may be the only factual telling of what happened to the Lutz's in 112 Ocean Avenue.
thegirl44 2 years ago
@thegirl44 Id love to read that; any link to it? I find this whole Amityville Horror story totally fascinating; its a mystery which has endured over 30 years, amazing really.
ralucagymnast 1 year ago
@ralucagymnast
Hey, you're my buddy from the Sid and Nancy videos. How are you doing?
I haven't been able to find an online link but I know that the copy that I read was obtained directly from Good Housekeeping for a small printing charge. I would imagine that if you call the 1-800 line on the editorial page of the magazine you'd be able to score a copy, too.
I'm still keeping my eyes open for it online, though. If I come accross it you'll be the first person that I send the link to.
thegirl44 1 year ago
Despite (all) the controversy (surrounding the Amityville Horror), it's one of my favorite horror movies! In my opinion, it "edges" out a number of today's (so-called) "horror" movies!
AngelofAnguish 2 years ago
I have no doubt in MY mind that the book is a load of shit, but I do believe that the Lutz' may have experienced something sinister inside the house. I think that when someone approached them and told them that they could make alot of money out of the story, they fabricated some details to make it more sensational. Maybe they didn't realise just how sensational Jay Anson would make out that it was.
Thats my opinion though:)
thegreeninferno 2 years ago
I kind of agree with you there
MrMikeabcd1 2 years ago
Or, it could be that the Lutz's took on more than they could handle and cooked up this story to get out of paying the mortgage.
kenjutsu34 2 years ago
Maybe the Lutzes were only in it for the lulz!!
ralucagymnast 2 years ago
I believe the Lutz family. but the media exploited them. I believe that house is cursed. to those who do not believe this story I dare you to do a seance on that property then tell us what happens.
Carri
rcarriwill 2 years ago
satan was the left hand man of god before falling he fall due to his love for god so satan is not evil after all
SuperDarkknight666 2 years ago
he was greedy that's why he fell if the house was fine how come it took 14 mths to sell it
APRIL62318 2 years ago
The real story WAS NOT A LIE!! The real-life Lutz family and the priest still claim the house was evil--not necessarily haunted. Haunted usually means ghosts or spirits of the dead. Evil usually deals with demons and Satan. They do say the movie created a lot of fictional things that didn't really happen--but overall the story is still based on an actual event or story!
ViceFan 2 years ago
The priest testified in court, for one of the many cases where the Lutz's were sued, that none of the events in the book in regards to his actions were true
thegirl44 2 years ago
The book fictionalized a lot of supposedly what happened, in turn so did the movie. Perhaps some of what happened to the priest in the book/movie was fictionalized. But, from what I've read/heard over the years, the Lutz family and the preist do think something evil (not necessarily what Hollywood's idea of evil is) was in the house.
I don't doubt something was wrong with that house after what happened with the DeFeo family, before the Lutz's moved in!
ViceFan 2 years ago
All of the transcripts from the court cases are online. Feel free to research it yourself.
thegirl44 2 years ago
I've read that too, but I wonder who is speaking in the interview on this program. Is it the same man, and, if so, why is he corroborating what was said in the book?
DavePerry2012 2 years ago
this whole story was a LIE the Lutz came forward to tell it was a lie cause they could no longer afford the mortgage hmmmm.......Defao the former owners eldest son killed entire family he "claims" he was possessed, hmmmmm......don't believe everything you hear even preist can lie!
ddlaurie01 2 years ago
No member of the Lutz family said the haunting was a hoax. They all maintain it was real. George claimed he paid the mortgage for 6 or 7 months after they fled.
DeFeo NEVER claimed he was possessed. During the trial he was trying to convince the jury that he was insane. Some mistake that for a claim of possession.
During an interview with Hans Holzer, DeFeo said he *may* have been possessed, but later admitted he got paid for that interview and was just telling Holzer what he wanted to hear.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
I read where the Lutz's were into TM (Transcendental Meditation) at the time all this started and it called Evil Spirits upon them.
The fact that all the owners after the Lutz's moved out reported nothing sinister just means that the Evil Spirits were connected to the Lutz family and NOT the house per se.
What do you all think??
PaulDougouba 2 years ago
Catholics are really into old tails and plastic dolls of mary
123demaio 2 years ago
A cruel hoax. I wonder why the Defeo Family and other heirs did not sue the living daylights out of all involved. Louis Defeo's father Michael Brigante owned the Buick dealership in Coney Island.
jvarela965 2 years ago
yeah..i read the book the night the defeo's died..its really sad what happened..
rjcubby13 2 years ago
this episode creeped me out as a kid when i saw it on tv.... thanks for posting
topjimmy72 2 years ago
About the phone. Why didn't Kathy ever just drive out and speak to the priest in person? She could drive and at that point George was still somewhat stable.
martincommrad 2 years ago 9
I wondered about that too or why the priest did not just go out there to talk to the family.
I wonder if all they say happened would have happened if the priest did not try to bless the house. I heard that can make things worse.
Mom2BTJ 2 years ago
The priest did bless the house when the Lutz's first moved in. But he said there was a deep demonic voice telling him to get out, and he ran from the house. He never went back, although he wanted to
DavieMurray1 2 years ago
@martincommrad cause there lazy =D
pkwildynob 1 year ago
aha! I thought they said that this preist confessed in court that it never happened, that he never saw or felt anything.
dragonette420 2 years ago
isnt there like anew version of this shoow
jikoldfghtr 2 years ago
i dont think they realized how huge it would become. they were overcome by it.they got swept up with their story.
jimmyl324 2 years ago
That music at 2:17 is seriously creepy!
Tarrant1976 2 years ago
No place is safe. Only safer.
mindfreakpro 2 years ago
my personal belief is yeah the house is a tiny bit hunted, But not to the extent they made out :/
Medusa0999 2 years ago
I agree completely with that -- only "they" are not the Lutzes, but Jay Anson (the author of the book) and the Hollywood screenwriters.
Jay Anson took the Lutzes' story, rearranged events and added a bit of fiction to make the story more exciting. For the movie, the screenwriters added more fiction.
The book is generally pretty accurate, though. The main bits of fiction: no slime oozing down the walls, no pit to hell or face seen in the red room, and the family didn't flee in the night.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
wow, I just saw a video where the family that moved in after the lutz, and the wife said that she spoke to that priest, and she said the priest had nothing strange to say about the house
tonetone71 2 years ago
No. You're referring to the "That's Incredible" video. Mrs Cromarty did not talk to the priest. She heard that the priest testified in court that the book was untrue and that he did not suffer from the afflictions mentioned.
This is immediately followed by a voiceover saying, "Transcript of the trial does not reflect the denial by the priest. In fact, no specific mention is made of sores and afflictions that he suffered either pro or con."
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Leonard nimoy's voice is perfect for any documentary.
MrNightOwl88 2 years ago 2
The priest is telling his experience. He has no motive to make money.
OS253 2 years ago 3
i would not want to live there, then or now. fuck that shit. word!
natebgraham 2 years ago 3
what word???
VolunteerRifleman 2 years ago
word up daddy rabbitt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
natebgraham 2 years ago
can you make the video darker please?
keewatin427 2 years ago 13
yes, i agree this needs to be much darker, i can see contrasts between colors in it
wlmh65 2 years ago
Quit whining. This was dark to begin with and was originally taped almost 20 years ago onto videotape at the slow speed. I'm surprised it came out as watchable as it did.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
heck i know the amityville story..when did william Katt live there ?
nealadams70 2 years ago
I don't know who that is. Here are the families that have lived in that house:
Moynahan
Fitzgerald
Riley
DeFeo
Lutz
Cromarty
Burch
O'Neill
Wilson
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
dude my last name is Burch
modelshidden2 2 years ago
I want to ouija in that house. Too bad it's like uber remodeled and stuff.
razorafterdeath 2 years ago
Was it just the Priest that could not get through to them on the phone, or did other people have trouble as well?
GalaxyClub 2 years ago
According to the story, supposedly just the priest.
Are you aware that not one of the families who have occupied the home since the Lutz's frantic escape; have ever experienced any paranormal events? The only reason they moved out was due to lack of privacy from trespassing tourists and the media.
I find it very hard to believe that the spirits were suddenly at rest after the Lutz departure. Haunted houses and locations tend to remain haunted.
kewikle 2 years ago
Did you know the Lutzes never made a frantic escape After the events of that last night, they phoned the priest to come and rebless the house, because they didn't want to spend another night like that last one. Instead, the priest suggested they simply spend the night in another location.
Their heads were so clouded at the time, this simple idea never occurred to them. They packed a few changes of clothes and went to stay at their in-laws, hoping to get the house fixed so they could move back.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Why doesn't it give that version in the book?
DavePerry2012 2 years ago
The Lutzes had many paranormal organizations and people visit the house to see if it could be "fixed." One such person was Dr Heffernan, who was absolutely sure he could clear the house - and once cleared you would smell violets.
George didn't smell violets, but rather smelled that "cheap perfume" that would come and go in the house. He was very distrustful of Heffernan.
But maybe that ended up working after all. I think this was the Lutzes' last attempt to fix the house before moving to CA.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Possibly, but to my knowledge exorcisms of homes are almost always only temporarily successful. The evil spirits (or whatever) will often return and resume the previous activities. I was surprised to learn that none of the later owners of "the house" ever experienced anything at all out of the ordinary except constant knocking at their door from curious tourists. When it comes to real demonic hauntings, it would be highly unlikely that the spirits would not return and cause trouble.
kewikle 2 years ago
I don't know. Do we know enough about how spirits act to publish a rule book for them? Scientifically we can't even prove spirits exist, so how do we know what they should or shouldn't do or be able to do?
The Lutzes still had paranormal incidents after leaving New York -- not as strong as when they were in Amityville, but maybe this means the evil followed them. I really don't know.
FriendshipTown 2 years ago
Did you ever hear of the Smurl family in west pitston Pa?Thats a scary story also.
jays2474 2 years ago
Thier are also people who study this stuff who say evil will sometimes just stop,or rest.This could of happend also.Some skeptics could have evil physically kick them right in the ass,and they still wouldnt believe it ya know lol.
jays2474 2 years ago 3
I was really looking forward to a tricorder analysis of the red room. Mr. Spock should have at least attempted a mind meld with the home's infrastructure. I mean, heck...he's in search of the truth here!
Most illogical. \V/
kewikle 2 years ago
i live in a haunted house i have 3 ghost here 2 men & an old woman...their not shy every1 who has been here experiences them
Summer9876 2 years ago
If you have ever experienced any paranormal events then you would know that this story most definately rings as true.
I grew up in a house where we heard voices coming from our unfinished attic, saw things (a 3 and a half foot troll looking person wearing a dark gray or black cape) and have had my car keys disappear for short periods of time only to have them reappear in the same place I left them previously.
At first you question what you see ... but when other family mbrs also see it.
Hmm..
walthers8 2 years ago
there is definitely some type of eerie spookyness to that house and land i would not want to live there
royalnash 2 years ago 2
lol at 5:05 the chair^^
why they only show fake scenes, everytime when there happens something, there is no cam available
wiou 2 years ago
1979 they didnt have cams
Summer9876 2 years ago