I just discovered this piece today and I love it!! There's a great performance on youtube by Voices of Music from SF CA. I've found this piece also written by Kapsberger, Merula, & Cazzati. Does anyone know the origin of this melody or who first composed a piece using it?
@rosten736 The origin is pretty obscure... it was a 16th century Spanish dance, possibly from the new world... no one actually wrote down how it was danced, so that's pretty much lost.
Monteverdi's Zefiro Torna, though, is usually credited with the introduction and popularization of the form into early Baroque Italy, the source that inspired so many composers to write elaborate treble variations on top of the simple ground bass.
@allengarvin Thanks. I hadn't heard that one by Monteverdi (1567-1643) before. What about Giovanni de' Bardi's Un Sarao de la Chaconna? He lived 1534-1612, so Monteverdi must have written it early in his life if it predates Bardi's?
It's strange. This music seems to me almost modern in some way, yet it is almost 400 years old. It almost sounds jazzy. Maybe it's all those great variations.
@vickiviolini This is what I thought to! I like the version better that I heard on sunday baroque, but anyhoo it really does have this quaint modern feel. I am sure the repetition of this style (the chaconne) is one part that aids that.
Yes, Bertali was one of the greatest composers of the 17th century, as testified by many of his contemporaries. Incidentally, this is one of his least spectacular compositions!
It's a shame though that the violinist here slurs a lot of the rapid passage work (technically easier!), whilst the ms makes clear which passages are to be slurred. It loses some of its spark that way.
Another problem I find with the performance here is that the viol feels the need to improvise (or rather copy from the violin part) its own pasage work (eg. 4:16-4:40). This disturbs the well-planned moments of repose in the piece.
Well, I suppose that is the beauty of youtube. Anyway, what is it to you who I am? I was not nasty about the musicians, I am just stating facts and supporting my own opinion which is based on researching and performing this type of music professionally for many years. If it is any consolation: I do not need to know who you are either!
The interesting thing is the modulatory passage from C maj to a min in which the bass modulates down a min third in every statement of the two-bar bass formula.
The Ciaccona is the most approppate music to portarait the dance of the galaxies, the way the things evolve armonically, in the concert of the Universe, with the cycle of depart, and return, sistole, and diastole the two letters HEI of the Name of God, inhalation and exhalation
i heard this yesterday for the first time on my car radio -- pulled over (enthralled) -- wrote it down (that version was played by musica fiat, also beautiful)-- came home hours later and looked it up here -- and have listened to it about 35 times since (aside from finding, as i listen to more and more of your videos, that i truly love baroque music.)
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TheEncyclia 1 month ago
must have been fairly brisk of step. lively and playful, no? and flirtatious.
mgnicolls 2 months ago
Sweet, sweet music.
PaddyButton 5 months ago
timeless "swing" =))
hylozoik 7 months ago
the gods must dancing to this
BogdanKrawalski 8 months ago
Rock on!
malcolmcolemann 8 months ago
:)
BogdanKrawalski 9 months ago
I know Italian, but I do know Latin, et animum ruri Italiani carpeto a ha musica barocca. Multas gratias mi amice opero mirabili.
CminorMaxG 10 months ago
I just discovered this piece today and I love it!! There's a great performance on youtube by Voices of Music from SF CA. I've found this piece also written by Kapsberger, Merula, & Cazzati. Does anyone know the origin of this melody or who first composed a piece using it?
rosten736 11 months ago
@rosten736 And Anonymous (Ciaccona Paradiso e Inferno), and I think not one else )) It's just a ground like Follia, Bergamasca, Monica etc...
When I firstly listened this Ciaccona I asked: "What year is it?????"
BackflyingBird 9 months ago
@rosten736 The origin is pretty obscure... it was a 16th century Spanish dance, possibly from the new world... no one actually wrote down how it was danced, so that's pretty much lost.
Monteverdi's Zefiro Torna, though, is usually credited with the introduction and popularization of the form into early Baroque Italy, the source that inspired so many composers to write elaborate treble variations on top of the simple ground bass.
allengarvin 8 months ago
@allengarvin Thanks. I hadn't heard that one by Monteverdi (1567-1643) before. What about Giovanni de' Bardi's Un Sarao de la Chaconna? He lived 1534-1612, so Monteverdi must have written it early in his life if it predates Bardi's?
rosten736 8 months ago
A song that strikes me to the heart. I love this song so much!
kaver749 1 year ago
Bravo Scott Pauley. Amazing Basso continuo line on the Theorbo I think. A type of Lute.
grandadpoppyable 1 year ago
Beauitful painting!
Max0Inq 1 year ago
That paint, of who?
noonescrying 1 year ago
chacona.
(De or. inc.).
1. f. Baile español de los siglos XVI y XVII, muy extendido por Europa.
2. f. Música de este baile.
3. f. Composición poética escrita para dicho baile.
4. f. Pieza instrumental inspirada en él.
RAE
risterion 1 year ago
Italian baroque is it! Divinely inspiring....
critical830 1 year ago
Most modern rock sounds like this. I think Metallica stole from this..
Huphlungpoo 1 year ago
Nydelig
47einar 1 year ago
I love it!!!
This Video was recommended to me by a friend and I must say - I am speechless!!
This music makes me feel so happy and weightless...
Thank you so much for uploading this!!
TheLousyCat 1 year ago
I love it!!!
This Video was recommended to me by a friend and I must say - I am speechless!!
This music makes me feel so happy and weightless...
Thank you so much for uploading this!!
TheLousyCat 1 year ago
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TheLousyCat 1 year ago
the violin sounds beautiful
abelizable 2 years ago 2
I like the slurring phrasing from the violin, even if it jars with the manuscript indication - I think it flows nicely
solarisqs 2 years ago
theres a weird variation of this i found thats played on guitar, i dont even know who played it!
dantoshou 2 years ago
It's strange. This music seems to me almost modern in some way, yet it is almost 400 years old. It almost sounds jazzy. Maybe it's all those great variations.
Thank you for posting. This is wonderful.
vickiviolini 2 years ago 26
@vickiviolini it sounds very modern in a way, my first thought when i heard it was "if you want to sing out" by cat stevens
swanski100 9 months ago
@vickiviolini This is what I thought to! I like the version better that I heard on sunday baroque, but anyhoo it really does have this quaint modern feel. I am sure the repetition of this style (the chaconne) is one part that aids that.
jimmymortis 5 months ago
@vickiviolini Agreed
KmBdstudios 2 months ago in playlist Totally Classical Part 2
@vickiviolini proof that good stuff never really gets old :)
duktak17 1 month ago in playlist Arpeggiata
Wow, this music is really good! Should have heard earlier from this composer.
mengenstrom 2 years ago 2
Yes, Bertali was one of the greatest composers of the 17th century, as testified by many of his contemporaries. Incidentally, this is one of his least spectacular compositions!
433138 2 years ago
Such a beautiful piece and performed with such excellecence! Thank you very much!
OriginalMoonbeam 2 years ago 2
It's a shame though that the violinist here slurs a lot of the rapid passage work (technically easier!), whilst the ms makes clear which passages are to be slurred. It loses some of its spark that way.
433138 2 years ago 2
Another problem I find with the performance here is that the viol feels the need to improvise (or rather copy from the violin part) its own pasage work (eg. 4:16-4:40). This disturbs the well-planned moments of repose in the piece.
433138 2 years ago
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bobbyzz94 2 years ago
Well, I suppose that is the beauty of youtube. Anyway, what is it to you who I am? I was not nasty about the musicians, I am just stating facts and supporting my own opinion which is based on researching and performing this type of music professionally for many years. If it is any consolation: I do not need to know who you are either!
433138 2 years ago
a wonderful composition - it's so great and full of ideas and only around two bars - awesome...
bobbyzz94 2 years ago
The interesting thing is the modulatory passage from C maj to a min in which the bass modulates down a min third in every statement of the two-bar bass formula.
433138 2 years ago
So pretty!
emilygclarinet 2 years ago
The Ciaccona is the most approppate music to portarait the dance of the galaxies, the way the things evolve armonically, in the concert of the Universe, with the cycle of depart, and return, sistole, and diastole the two letters HEI of the Name of God, inhalation and exhalation
baalhaophanim 2 years ago 2
I love it :)
Viahandel06 2 years ago 3
Can I die and go to Heaven already? This music is wonderful.
Kiddfan777 2 years ago 10
i heard this yesterday for the first time on my car radio -- pulled over (enthralled) -- wrote it down (that version was played by musica fiat, also beautiful)-- came home hours later and looked it up here -- and have listened to it about 35 times since (aside from finding, as i listen to more and more of your videos, that i truly love baroque music.)
thank you!!
corvacorax99 3 years ago 2
this is so beautiful
patrickcommiskey 3 years ago 2
MVSICA.
MaBu888 3 years ago
this piece is very cool.
sciprio 3 years ago
Beautiful. :)
OedipusColoneus 3 years ago 3
i luv this! thanks for posting.
nbtothepower 3 years ago
This is nice!
Pianist1991 3 years ago 2
very good
robwushu 3 years ago