i just started traing a couple weeks ago and i got kicked in the shin pretty hard (with out padding) and a lump has formed and been there for almost a month. ive tried to roll it out with pvc pipe and it seems to flatten but hasnt gone away, it dosent hurt but when i kick my heavy bag it stings. should i be worried or will it just go away getting kinda nervous please help
Showdokahn ju jitzo jeet kwon do mixed boxing thai boxing multyple hand skillz with ninjitzo shuruken chain cuter bow staff the list goes on so master the fact that self proclamations will fuze with true water and physycle pain feels good to me so :)
you MUST use dit da jow after conditioning the bones or else it will likely leed to arthritis or other problems in the future. its a mixture of chinese herds made into a lotion
can u tell me the medicen name...when u puch a lot,and when finish u need to rub this medicen on ur hand cause it keeps it form getting infected and ur sperm will stay with u....yes if u keep puching,u will be good at it,but u will have no more babies,,(produceing sperm will be very very very low and possible nothing)
If you continue this line of training without dipping your hands in very warm iron palm bone medicine, you wil end up with arthritis, bursitis and wore. Eventually, your hands might be curled up in a permanent hook where you will not be capable of opening your fingers. Not good. Train wisely. Research some more.
We only have one set of bones...take care of them.
True bone conditions is running, jumping (anything impact). Kicking a heavy bag, pads...ect. The shin guards should be on for sparring only. You only condition a small portion of your hand? What if you hit with another part (people do move, people do miss)... condition your whole hand and wrist.
I have a problem. I got pissed off one day enough, that i punched a concrete wall with ...i don't know... about 60 % of my full force..and my knuckle, after 4 months, still hasn't healed enough that i don't feel pain anymore when i punch something.
I'm 15, and i can take a lot of pain without showing any emotion. I just wanted to know how much time it will take, until it completely heals. Sorry for the bad grammar, i'm Estonian.
@heix0 Ouch. Solid concrete is very bad especially to unconditioned hands. A concrete wall has absolutely no give unlike rope or wood. I'd suggest making it a habit everyday to stretch your hands, flex them, twirl the fingers, really loosen them up. Just 5 to 10 minutes a day will help. If your working on punches, start with a heavy bag and strike gently. Build up over the course of a few weeks. Write it down and keep it in your mind so you don't let your ego get the better of you.
Hey you should ask if your instructor is from ChungDoKwan. Good video, you are one of the few on youtube who knows how to punch and which knuckles to punch with
@greenpuma59 lol, because there is 1 way to punch and only certain knuckles work. Give me a break. Traditionalist are stupid. Think outside of the box.
What are your credentials? When you use mariwaka style conditioning you do your whole fist. Not just to knuckles, you condition it from different angles as well to toughen the skin in different areas. Also that is not a straight punch. It is a triangle punch. I hate idiots posting stuff that they don't know about and acting like experts.
At first, You can start with the rope, but with more speed than power, Your knuckles will get used to it, then you can start slowing down and add more power, and when your knuckles are conditioned, you can do all power
this is good condition tips! What i do is punch my wall with the Wing Chun punches.. but it hurts my knucles after a while but i got use to it but i prefer doing what this videos shows!
@wex313 Well, Maybe. Bruising involves the blood and muscles. The idea behind shin/knuckle conditioning is to make what's called "micro fractures" in your bones. Those small holes then fill up with calcium and make the bones harder. As well as deadening the nerves.
ey could u help me both my shins are so weak i kick the bag for about 30 mins to an hour but they get all bruised and bumps and it stays bruised for like a month lol i cant walk or anything i got all holes and bumps when i go down my leg they bruise for a little tap... could u help me and tell me what to train or what to put on so they can heal ?? thanks
@mikaboom123 Your trainer doesn't know too much about proper conditioning then. You need to give your body time to recuperate, otherwise you just keep breaking it down. Also, in general you should avoid banging on your shins with something hard anyways. Just kick the bottom portion of the heavy bag when you do your bagwork and your shins will be fine.
Is stricking a heavy bag withough gloves or anything a good method as well? I don't have someplace to tie a rope like you did, or shin pads. I only have the heavy bag and the walls
@Fallen0430 i know how u feel i get so many haters and critics just because i uploaded a video the other day of me bashing my nuckles in with a heavy hammer and and other things like that, i support what u do man.just remember, the biggest losers always have the most to say, alot of people criticise us 4 our methods and most of the time i go to my haters channels and they have no training videos, at least we have the balls to shoe our training, im just referring to haters in general great stuff
@johnyongck Yeah, but when your knuckles are soft and weak, a harder and faster blow will break them. Nice reasoning there. Technique and conditioning before speed and power.
@midairman yeah actually i dont do this eveyday and not 400 times... idont do this anymore..just 100 kicks to a heavy bag...i know your body needs time as my bones hurted like bitches after the training...but now i am okay :-D
Do you do MT or Karate? I see the MT conditioning with the shin but you use the stick with rope like karate's conditioning. It even looked like you put your hand in a chamber.
I Trained in a school called Millennium Martial Arts~My instructor was a world class champion kick boxer who also has a 4th degree black belt in TKD. What i do stems from him and his teachings.
Side Note: I uploaded his younger brother and Him in another video where his sibling test for his 1st degree black belt though i only UPloaded the sparing cause that is all i want to record. :D
@Fallen0430 Tae Kwon Do is a very ineffective in real combat compared to chinese martial art. Try Choy Lee Fut, or Kenpo, they are much more effective in real fights against real martial artists and street fighters or just your average mugger.
wow, this shit is seriously retarded, it weakenes the center of the bone, even though the bone becomes larger and seems stronger, the inside is hollowed....
Another way of hardening fist without too much effort is to take your local White pages or yellow pages and punch it every day. Each time before you start take out a few pages. Eventually you will be hitting the floor or wall. Its a slow gradual conditioning exercise. I use a rolling pin for the shins.
Well what I do for my fist now I just hit the heavy bag without any gloves but when I was younger I had this wood post thing I would punch it with about 30 to 40% power and I did that for about 5 mins.Now for my shins like my knuckles I kick the heavy bag and I do like 100 kicks per leg and I have a stick and I kinda tap on them like this guy in the video and i do the same with my elbows.
@haztaz14 take the hollow bone web like structure and condense it into a more harder denser tougher structure thus condition training incase you gotta kick a bitch ass legs out from under him/her, but it takes at the least a year to toughen the fist, elbows ,chins, knees,, head even finger tips its all reenforcing of the bodys eight limbs
It's 'Iron Fist'/bone conditioning.....simply put, it makes your punches tough and basically means your hands, arms and other parts you may 'condition' are very hard and resistant to injury.
@system0Fhonor you are making scar tissue. Scar tissue is easier to damage then unbroken skin. If you are breaking your skin, it is going to keep happening. You can toughen the skin if you don't break it. Do your knuckle push ups if this is happening.
I like to think of my bipolar friend that hits everything and everyone on an hourly basis. Smart conditioning is better than the manly conditioning. I'm sure his bones are great, but he's bound to get hepatitis c or aids eventually.
@tejolson92 That doesn't quite make sense... How is unbroken (non-adjusted) skin going to be tougher than built up scar tissue? Most of the body (even muscles as they get injured and sore from workout) gets built stronger upon regeneration of damage. Also how the heck is he going to get AIDS or hepatitis c from that?
@johnsmith928 if you're bruised, ice it. If an area is inflamed, ice it. Not icing it isn't going to condition it better. The faster you heal, the faster you can get back to striking at full power.
LOL. you are destroying your ligaments and joints in your fingers. it might strengthened it, but when you grow older, your joints in your fingers will feel the pain. comeon, heres not china, you wont get the best out of it so try something else that he chinese do
u dont need to condition ur elbows atall or your knuckles
your shins are naturally hard enough, u dont feel the pain in a fight because of the adrenaline even shin on shin, and all the power comes from turning the hip over n kicking through, not having 'tough' shins
@jonny232323232323 obviously you have never had a pro with steel shins kick you on your shin cos i can assure you 100% that if your shins are not up to my standard then after one shin clash you will be on the floor crying about your snapped leg
@bondsan no ive had lots of shin on shin contact thanx, u dont know anything about me so lots not make stupid assumptions. theres only a few very rare cases of shin breaks.
the nerve endings become dead, so when u kick me with your 'hard' shin, even if your shin is harder than myn i wont feel it really,
your bones only become harder (ossification) from small stress fractures, caused by hitting hard things.
anythign that doesnt cause a stress fracture just dedens the nerve
@bondsan try looking into bone ossification dickweed. u can deaden your nerves so you dont feel the pain. how is hitting something going to make your bones harder?
if i told u a baseball bat became harder the more it was used youd laugh at me
yah well a baseball bat is not a living organism that builds tolerances to anything detrimental to its body . The bones DO get harder/ more dense so that the injury you are inflicting on yourself while training does not happen again. Like weight lifting, a tolerance to alcohol, or snake venom. they do become more dense there is no doubting it, but in this day and age unless you fight for a living you are wasting your time.
@jonny232323232323 lol ahhahaa if you are going to exchange shins with somebody that did years of shin conditioning and kicking you and your shins would die. Adrenaline doesn't cover pain. Your shins do get harder due to cortical bone remodeling fool
@jonny232323232323 Dude if you got a untrained shin and your gonna try to break a baseball bat to test your kick skill then undoubtly your will feel the feel adrenaline or not. Maybe adrenaline covers a little pain but just a little. If what you said was true then fighters would never get pain you say in a fight lol.And ofcourse the shins could be hurt in a fight,but they are fighters they don't give up like that they just stop kicking with that shin.
@oneofussgoes true when i first went in for a thai boxing match i was scared my shins would hurt when they clashed but i dint feel a thing. the tiniest pain towards the end wich just spurred me on. i think people put to much thought in to shin conditioning. ur nerves will deaden from sparring/heavy bag etc. obv the more dead your nerves are the less pain ull feel in a fight. but thats not ur shin being harder its your nerves becoming dead
@jonny232323232323 I know what ya mean bro. I still do think the bone does get harder everytimes it heals due to cortical remodeling. But yeay maybe it only dead the nerves,regardless of that you do get stronger if you train the shins. Anyway good luck with your further muay thai career,peace bro.
@oneofussgoes aparentlly they can get harder but from stress fractures from something that is harder than the shin then heal harder. like tiny breaks. anything that doesnt cause a stress fracture just dedens the nerves wich deaden from heavybag work sparring etc anyway. but yea peace to u 2 brother all the best
@jonny232323232323 you need to learn your stuff man. You make them denser not only to make them heavier for more damage, but also less likley to break when you hit something hard.
@gildrop maybe so but when do you ever see a fighter get stopped or lose from shin on shin contact. u only see it from landing on the thigh and all the power is from the hip turning and the body momentum
or you can buy a coconut and travel around with that and build up your fists, jsut make sure you keep it cold so it will be harder, dont try to break it, try to build off it, there is a difference
use the 2 big ones. ther stronger and when hiting u want least surface area. its not a push its suppost to pass as much energy to ur opponent as possible with least suface area.
Also, if you do a straight punch from inside to outside (or centerline to centerline), using the elbow hinge instead of the shoulder (yes I know use the hip all strikes use the hip) and snap your wrist up instead of twisting it horizontal, it's faster and it doesn't telegraph.
This is good, but DON'T RUB ANYTHING HARD against your arms. It dulls nerves, which is bad because you need to feel where the momentum of a person's arm is when you make contact. Whether or not you rub the shins depends on your style. If you do any in fighting, or little shin kicks, don't. You need the shin-on-shin sensitivity for infighting aswell. Tapping/hitting is different.
would it be a problem for me to wrap a tree or metal pole with a foam pad and use that as a punching bag?
i dont have access to a normal punching bag, and one concern is because the pole or tree wont move as opposed to the punching bag which will at least swing.
would it be a problem for me to wrap a tree or metal pole with a foam pad and use that as a punching bag?
i dont have access to a normal punching bag, and one concern is because the pole or tree wont move as opposed to the punching bag which will at least swing.
i found that if you rig a thick tapped carpet with logging chains running through it to simulate a thai heavy bag it works pretty well but i use a 20 lb weight at the bottom for extra weight so it won't swing around
how is that possible though, they are worked the same way, impact toward the shin, except the heavy bag the hit is spread more through ur leg every kick
well there you go haha answered your own question the impact area is greatly vastaned therefore the force is taken over a larger area causing less damage also a heavy bag is softer than your bone and will move out of the way when hit this wont, this will take the impact and stay stationary causing more damage.
the impact is the same force with heavybag or stick. it does the same damage but there is less damage at one point in the leg so its less likely to get damaged through repetetive hits
would it be a problem for me to wrap a tree or metal pole with a foam pad and use that as a punching bag?
i dont have access to a normal punching bag, and one concern is because the pole or tree wont move as opposed to the punching bag which will at least swing.
maybe its just the way i wrap but wraps make my fist bleed when not used with gloves and if you use hand lotion after your done it stops your skin from splitting and bleeding
@na6drifter i never had a problem with my hands bleeding while wrapped, i think you might be doing it wrong.. are you going between each finger then covering your knuckles with a horizontal layer?
that just happened to me like 5 min ago. I just kept on going and then i saw blood on the punching thing i made(same basics as the rope) and a couple of the joints just after the knuckles were bleeding
yea, for sure if you have a heavy punching bag that will work. ive kicked a punching bag over and over for 4 hours, i always stopped after my shins started bleeding. haha, seems extreme but thats how i worked up to this. so if you have one, yea.
I've been conditioning my knuckles from the age of 9. My knuckles are truely rock-solid, and bumped out people think they're bruised because they're honestly that fucking devistating. I'm not boasting or anything, when I punch anything it doesn't hurt. I used to just like play bloody knuckles with my friends, dead arm matches, hook a brick wall (rofl, ended up tearing all my skin) and like punch some heavy shit. I didn't really do all the shit that professional recommend...
@lnterview lol right.. my knucks are pretty devastating just by themselves.. each one is like half a inch wide and atleast 1/2 to 3/4 of an inches thick.. its like having 4 tiny concentrated points of contact.. when i bare knuckle box i cut my opponents face up pretty bad almost every time.. i used to punch truck tires at the shop i worked at through high school, that really helped toughen up my hands punching mud tire tread lol
i've been hitting my shins with a wooden sword, but after doing it for 3 days i've got a line of bruises, i gotta wait for it to repair to see the effect its had.
well obviously you maybe hitted your bones too hard, do not be inpatient youll end up hurting your self, and by the way when your shits repair, you wont see any result yet if you just did it for those 3 days this is a long term thing
the bones have cracked. im sure of that because it was a lil painful to put weight on it. so now when it heals over it'll heal thicker and should in theory be stronger. thats part of how conditioning works. and its been 2 days, the bruises are still there but i cant feel any pain from it. its pretty much worked so when it completely heals it should be pretty strong.
ax3ninja: 3 days? you've got to do it consistently for at least a couple months before you see any real results... it's also best to do it only 2-4 days a weeks so you give the bone time to heal after each session
what about forearm bones, fingertips, all around your foot,, get a broomstick and have you friend beat the hell out of your ribcage (granted ive been training for 14 years so dont jump into an ass kicking and break bones) stand up straight left arm up and lean to the right, get your buddy start wacking the ribs
@8137272424 the best way to condition your fingertips is to straighten your hand out and strike fingers first into water for about an hour and do that every day for a week, then move up to very very fine granulated sand, then to rice, then to pinto beans, eventually you can move up to thicker sand and gravel.. over time you condition your fingers to except straight on impacts that would normally jam the joint or break your finger..
im not saying go put everything you got into beating the hell out of an object but if you want solid bones of anything train them i like the train my weakpoints like the ribcage, under armpits, places that matrial arts teaches you to go for, but what happens when youve built i high pain tolernce? youll eat that technique and see what else they were taught for 100 bucks a month, knuckles and shins a a small fractions, they too easy, you overlook week points on most people
Just to let you know. Rolling a pin up and down your Shins, can f**k up your legs. You won't be able to walk after 15 years. I know this from experience. Killing nerves in the shins doesnt do anything. Just kick a bag, beare shins.
I train taekwondo and they teach us to condition the same part of the fist as you show. I agree that this area is best for striking but I got blocked by an elbow (reflex defense) and I was forced to hit with my whole fist (my pinky took all the impact). Since then I've been conditioning my whole hands. You may never know what to expect.
If you paid attention to the end, he said "do not hurt yourself." Bone conditioning is a slow process that strengthens over time. If you immediately go all out, you will permanently damage your joints.
For taekwondo, it would be wise to condition the heel of the palm, knife hand, and ridge hand portions of the hand as well.
You got me wrong, I did not say to hurry up with the conditioning. I ment you don't know which part of your body you will use to hit. Your opponent is a moving target, thus makes it harder to hit with your small trained surfaces.
If you do an overall body conditioning, or just condition your entire forearms and shins you get a better chance of lending a conditioned bone strike.
bones have nothing to do with pain. you feel pain with your small nerves in your skin who send impulses to your brain. When you punch with your bare knuckle like this guy does, then the nerves die and you feel less pain. If you dont practice the nerves regenerate. Im a boxer I dont practice bare knuckle but I do push ups on my knuckles -> less pain, less injuries while killing your nerves
nah punch with your first 2 fingers because its inline with your forearm i make my knuckles bigger and may hands harder by punching wet sand in a bucket
I use all my knuckles and I punch Iron as hard as i want and no blood or pain. this stuff works u must go slow tho its taken me 9 years to get ot this.
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i just started traing a couple weeks ago and i got kicked in the shin pretty hard (with out padding) and a lump has formed and been there for almost a month. ive tried to roll it out with pvc pipe and it seems to flatten but hasnt gone away, it dosent hurt but when i kick my heavy bag it stings. should i be worried or will it just go away getting kinda nervous please help
kootchbitch 3 days ago
faggot
Malacus 1 week ago
Try taping your hand with black plastic tape and hot water then cold and hot again
Nubiano569 1 week ago
Showdokahn ju jitzo jeet kwon do mixed boxing thai boxing multyple hand skillz with ninjitzo shuruken chain cuter bow staff the list goes on so master the fact that self proclamations will fuze with true water and physycle pain feels good to me so :)
Nubiano569 1 week ago
now ive done this and i riped the ligiment above my middle knuckle
TWIISTIEID 2 weeks ago
you MUST use dit da jow after conditioning the bones or else it will likely leed to arthritis or other problems in the future. its a mixture of chinese herds made into a lotion
bballer3r3 3 weeks ago
Great info! Thanks for posting!
DanGan808 1 month ago
can u tell me the medicen name...when u puch a lot,and when finish u need to rub this medicen on ur hand cause it keeps it form getting infected and ur sperm will stay with u....yes if u keep puching,u will be good at it,but u will have no more babies,,(produceing sperm will be very very very low and possible nothing)
589adam 1 month ago
@589adam Your looking for Liniment oil, used after you do your conditioning.
Ras4165 3 weeks ago
if you hit the post whith your fists for 20 or 30 years. Your fist will be more softer and you will lose pawer.
manny19941000 1 month ago
@manny19941000 Negatron batman, you need to go back to the kitchen cause you don't know what your talking about.
Ras4165 3 weeks ago
You'll have far stronger bones and what not then all the other 40 year olds
Skylerhwright 2 months ago
then what will happen when you are 40
sghfqwe 3 months ago
this is good, i used to punch the bare wood without the rope, it really toughened up my fist
KaraLindaLee 3 months ago
Typos: "will"..."worse"
m1artz 3 months ago
If you continue this line of training without dipping your hands in very warm iron palm bone medicine, you wil end up with arthritis, bursitis and wore. Eventually, your hands might be curled up in a permanent hook where you will not be capable of opening your fingers. Not good. Train wisely. Research some more.
We only have one set of bones...take care of them.
m1artz 3 months ago
Thanks for the vid man, it helped. :)
ekoms777 4 months ago
you are a physical therapists dream "future" patient :)
nomilkforsanta 4 months ago
Shin conditioning with shin protector.
Toluenx 4 months ago
True bone conditions is running, jumping (anything impact). Kicking a heavy bag, pads...ect. The shin guards should be on for sparring only. You only condition a small portion of your hand? What if you hit with another part (people do move, people do miss)... condition your whole hand and wrist.
buffmedic01 5 months ago
I have a problem. I got pissed off one day enough, that i punched a concrete wall with ...i don't know... about 60 % of my full force..and my knuckle, after 4 months, still hasn't healed enough that i don't feel pain anymore when i punch something.
I'm 15, and i can take a lot of pain without showing any emotion. I just wanted to know how much time it will take, until it completely heals. Sorry for the bad grammar, i'm Estonian.
heix0 5 months ago
@heix0 Ouch. Solid concrete is very bad especially to unconditioned hands. A concrete wall has absolutely no give unlike rope or wood. I'd suggest making it a habit everyday to stretch your hands, flex them, twirl the fingers, really loosen them up. Just 5 to 10 minutes a day will help. If your working on punches, start with a heavy bag and strike gently. Build up over the course of a few weeks. Write it down and keep it in your mind so you don't let your ego get the better of you.
warriorfire8103 4 months ago
@warriorfire8103 Thank you for the tips, friend. :)
heix0 4 months ago
Hey you should ask if your instructor is from ChungDoKwan. Good video, you are one of the few on youtube who knows how to punch and which knuckles to punch with
greenpuma59 5 months ago
@greenpuma59 lol, because there is 1 way to punch and only certain knuckles work. Give me a break. Traditionalist are stupid. Think outside of the box.
buffmedic01 5 months ago
In your opinion, would this also work for a wing tsun style punch?
NathanaelNasty 5 months ago
Worked his way up to the rope. So whats next? Barbed wire? :O
Pezzy54321 7 months ago
What are your credentials? When you use mariwaka style conditioning you do your whole fist. Not just to knuckles, you condition it from different angles as well to toughen the skin in different areas. Also that is not a straight punch. It is a triangle punch. I hate idiots posting stuff that they don't know about and acting like experts.
buffmedic01 7 months ago
@buffmedic01 well who the fuck are you? triangle punch.....haha somebodys stuck in kung fu fantasy
gogetatr12 6 months ago
@gogetatr12 shouldn't laugh at people when you don't know what they are talking about
Samurailord 5 months ago
i believe that is a triangle punch and not a straight?
tipsy700 7 months ago
how often do you do this ?
xxpinoclean 9 months ago
At first, You can start with the rope, but with more speed than power, Your knuckles will get used to it, then you can start slowing down and add more power, and when your knuckles are conditioned, you can do all power
lilgoalieman 9 months ago
this is good condition tips! What i do is punch my wall with the Wing Chun punches.. but it hurts my knucles after a while but i got use to it but i prefer doing what this videos shows!
kraze92 9 months ago
my friends told me that bruising your knukle makes it stronger, is that true?
wex313 9 months ago
@wex313 Well, Maybe. Bruising involves the blood and muscles. The idea behind shin/knuckle conditioning is to make what's called "micro fractures" in your bones. Those small holes then fill up with calcium and make the bones harder. As well as deadening the nerves.
TrippleLee 9 months ago
@TrippleLee
your totally right bud, first dude ive seen who actually knows whats going on with hardening your bones
headbull2009 9 months ago
@headbull2009 thanks, I do a good bit of research ; )
TrippleLee 9 months ago
i was hit by a car the car hit both my shins after having truble walking for a week i can now kick 250lb bag as hard as i want with no pain
Thewardrobee 10 months ago 10
@Thewardrobee dont man thats something different
inforcerer 3 weeks ago
@Thewardrobee jealous
xlukeskywalkerBI 1 week ago
thats crazy
rowin09 1 year ago
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ey could u help me both my shins are so weak i kick the bag for about 30 mins to an hour but they get all bruised and bumps and it stays bruised for like a month lol i cant walk or anything i got all holes and bumps when i go down my leg they bruise for a little tap... could u help me and tell me what to train or what to put on so they can heal ?? thanks
dej0z 1 year ago
this is not bone conditioning..its shitty conditioning
if you want hard shins take a light piece of wood (ask your trainer there are certain ones)
and hit your shin with it 400 times a day
thats what i do
mikaboom123 1 year ago
@mikaboom123 Your trainer doesn't know too much about proper conditioning then. You need to give your body time to recuperate, otherwise you just keep breaking it down. Also, in general you should avoid banging on your shins with something hard anyways. Just kick the bottom portion of the heavy bag when you do your bagwork and your shins will be fine.
kyokushinjarhead 1 year ago
Is stricking a heavy bag withough gloves or anything a good method as well? I don't have someplace to tie a rope like you did, or shin pads. I only have the heavy bag and the walls
punktheman 1 year ago
listen to this one. about 100 ziplocs, sand, duct tape, empty leather punching bag. U CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
52canada 1 year ago
your toes look fucking gross man, put on some socks next time and spare us all the horror
rebelsouljaz 1 year ago
Aside From The "Others" I've Been Getting Mostly Positive Feed Back And I Plan To Make A Follow Up Video - Take Care :)
Fallen0430 1 year ago
@Fallen0430 i know how u feel i get so many haters and critics just because i uploaded a video the other day of me bashing my nuckles in with a heavy hammer and and other things like that, i support what u do man.just remember, the biggest losers always have the most to say, alot of people criticise us 4 our methods and most of the time i go to my haters channels and they have no training videos, at least we have the balls to shoe our training, im just referring to haters in general great stuff
JUGGERNAUTWORSHIPER 10 months ago
can you punch it harder and faster? in real life nuckle mean nothing, cause speed punch can blow you up.
johnyongck 1 year ago
@johnyongck
^Educated^
HanKSN101 1 year ago
@johnyongck Yeah, but when your knuckles are soft and weak, a harder and faster blow will break them. Nice reasoning there. Technique and conditioning before speed and power.
midairman 1 year ago
@midairman yeah actually i dont do this eveyday and not 400 times... idont do this anymore..just 100 kicks to a heavy bag...i know your body needs time as my bones hurted like bitches after the training...but now i am okay :-D
mikaboom123 1 year ago
@liljohnnydel1 hahahahahaha..asshole hahahahaha
Mochoe 1 year ago
Do you do MT or Karate? I see the MT conditioning with the shin but you use the stick with rope like karate's conditioning. It even looked like you put your hand in a chamber.
tman229 1 year ago 4
@tman229
I Trained in a school called Millennium Martial Arts~My instructor was a world class champion kick boxer who also has a 4th degree black belt in TKD. What i do stems from him and his teachings.
Side Note: I uploaded his younger brother and Him in another video where his sibling test for his 1st degree black belt though i only UPloaded the sparing cause that is all i want to record. :D
Fallen0430 1 year ago
@Fallen0430 Tae Kwon Do is a very ineffective in real combat compared to chinese martial art. Try Choy Lee Fut, or Kenpo, they are much more effective in real fights against real martial artists and street fighters or just your average mugger.
TruthisFact 1 month ago
@CaptainNensho JUST DIE ALREADY
crazzykiphunter 1 year ago
wow, this shit is seriously retarded, it weakenes the center of the bone, even though the bone becomes larger and seems stronger, the inside is hollowed....
maitrekenshin93 1 year ago
Another way of hardening fist without too much effort is to take your local White pages or yellow pages and punch it every day. Each time before you start take out a few pages. Eventually you will be hitting the floor or wall. Its a slow gradual conditioning exercise. I use a rolling pin for the shins.
iApna 1 year ago 2
@iApna That sounds like a good idea. I'll try it sometime today maybe.
boredom62 1 year ago
21 people broke their knuckles.
atillathehun3 1 year ago
The neighbours will think you're bonkers.
milzeh 1 year ago 2
Well what I do for my fist now I just hit the heavy bag without any gloves but when I was younger I had this wood post thing I would punch it with about 30 to 40% power and I did that for about 5 mins.Now for my shins like my knuckles I kick the heavy bag and I do like 100 kicks per leg and I have a stick and I kinda tap on them like this guy in the video and i do the same with my elbows.
willdesha 1 year ago
sorry what is this ment to do ? :)
haztaz14 1 year ago
@haztaz14 take the hollow bone web like structure and condense it into a more harder denser tougher structure thus condition training incase you gotta kick a bitch ass legs out from under him/her, but it takes at the least a year to toughen the fist, elbows ,chins, knees,, head even finger tips its all reenforcing of the bodys eight limbs
bigwillakingkilla 1 year ago
@haztaz14
It's 'Iron Fist'/bone conditioning.....simply put, it makes your punches tough and basically means your hands, arms and other parts you may 'condition' are very hard and resistant to injury.
slitheen 1 year ago
do you keep punching if your flesh on the knuckles is coming of
system0Fhonor 1 year ago
@system0Fhonor youre doing it too hard work your way up "pick up your sticks!"
bigwillakingkilla 1 year ago
@system0Fhonor lmao
brandonbalistx 1 year ago
@system0Fhonor you are making scar tissue. Scar tissue is easier to damage then unbroken skin. If you are breaking your skin, it is going to keep happening. You can toughen the skin if you don't break it. Do your knuckle push ups if this is happening.
I like to think of my bipolar friend that hits everything and everyone on an hourly basis. Smart conditioning is better than the manly conditioning. I'm sure his bones are great, but he's bound to get hepatitis c or aids eventually.
tejolson92 1 year ago
@tejolson92
thanx for the info, take care of your friend
system0Fhonor 1 year ago
@tejolson92 LOL that was the worst/dumbest breakdown i have ever heard!
thecrazyoftheinsane 1 year ago
@tejolson92 That doesn't quite make sense... How is unbroken (non-adjusted) skin going to be tougher than built up scar tissue? Most of the body (even muscles as they get injured and sore from workout) gets built stronger upon regeneration of damage. Also how the heck is he going to get AIDS or hepatitis c from that?
tman229 1 year ago
is it good to ice the areas you're conditioning?
johnsmith928 1 year ago
@johnsmith928 if you're bruised, ice it. If an area is inflamed, ice it. Not icing it isn't going to condition it better. The faster you heal, the faster you can get back to striking at full power.
tejolson92 1 year ago
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johnsmith928 1 year ago
@tejolson92 Dit da jow is the prefferred dressing for inflammation or bruising.
cdadonkeyshow 1 year ago
i used to use metal rods
XepherProductions 1 year ago
hey man i do something similar ,i do shoulders ,knee ,shin,elbow,fist,fingers etc..
where did u learned that ?
jeffersonbasso 1 year ago
LOL. you are destroying your ligaments and joints in your fingers. it might strengthened it, but when you grow older, your joints in your fingers will feel the pain. comeon, heres not china, you wont get the best out of it so try something else that he chinese do
mrletspl4ygames 1 year ago
really good but i warn , this will lead u to big ugly knuckles on your hands haha
ieotos 1 year ago
"cock it back" - i laughed
piggemz 1 year ago
your big toenail looks weird
9westside4 1 year ago
u dont need to condition ur elbows atall or your knuckles
your shins are naturally hard enough, u dont feel the pain in a fight because of the adrenaline even shin on shin, and all the power comes from turning the hip over n kicking through, not having 'tough' shins
all this done is dull your nerve endings
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 obviously you have never had a pro with steel shins kick you on your shin cos i can assure you 100% that if your shins are not up to my standard then after one shin clash you will be on the floor crying about your snapped leg
bondsan 1 year ago
@bondsan no ive had lots of shin on shin contact thanx, u dont know anything about me so lots not make stupid assumptions. theres only a few very rare cases of shin breaks.
the nerve endings become dead, so when u kick me with your 'hard' shin, even if your shin is harder than myn i wont feel it really,
your bones only become harder (ossification) from small stress fractures, caused by hitting hard things.
anythign that doesnt cause a stress fracture just dedens the nerve
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 yet again an uneducated mind spouting off about that which he doesn't know about.
try looking into wolf's law :)
bondsan 1 year ago
@bondsan try looking into bone ossification dickweed. u can deaden your nerves so you dont feel the pain. how is hitting something going to make your bones harder?
if i told u a baseball bat became harder the more it was used youd laugh at me
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323
yah well a baseball bat is not a living organism that builds tolerances to anything detrimental to its body . The bones DO get harder/ more dense so that the injury you are inflicting on yourself while training does not happen again. Like weight lifting, a tolerance to alcohol, or snake venom. they do become more dense there is no doubting it, but in this day and age unless you fight for a living you are wasting your time.
minear85 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 lol ahhahaa if you are going to exchange shins with somebody that did years of shin conditioning and kicking you and your shins would die. Adrenaline doesn't cover pain. Your shins do get harder due to cortical bone remodeling fool
oneofussgoes 1 year ago
@oneofussgoes funny because i think ull find adrenaline does cover pain. ive never seen ne1 quit a fight because their shins hurt
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 Dude if you got a untrained shin and your gonna try to break a baseball bat to test your kick skill then undoubtly your will feel the feel adrenaline or not. Maybe adrenaline covers a little pain but just a little. If what you said was true then fighters would never get pain you say in a fight lol.And ofcourse the shins could be hurt in a fight,but they are fighters they don't give up like that they just stop kicking with that shin.
oneofussgoes 1 year ago
@oneofussgoes true when i first went in for a thai boxing match i was scared my shins would hurt when they clashed but i dint feel a thing. the tiniest pain towards the end wich just spurred me on. i think people put to much thought in to shin conditioning. ur nerves will deaden from sparring/heavy bag etc. obv the more dead your nerves are the less pain ull feel in a fight. but thats not ur shin being harder its your nerves becoming dead
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 I know what ya mean bro. I still do think the bone does get harder everytimes it heals due to cortical remodeling. But yeay maybe it only dead the nerves,regardless of that you do get stronger if you train the shins. Anyway good luck with your further muay thai career,peace bro.
oneofussgoes 1 year ago
@oneofussgoes aparentlly they can get harder but from stress fractures from something that is harder than the shin then heal harder. like tiny breaks. anything that doesnt cause a stress fracture just dedens the nerves wich deaden from heavybag work sparring etc anyway. but yea peace to u 2 brother all the best
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
@jonny232323232323 you need to learn your stuff man. You make them denser not only to make them heavier for more damage, but also less likley to break when you hit something hard.
gildrop 1 year ago
@gildrop maybe so but when do you ever see a fighter get stopped or lose from shin on shin contact. u only see it from landing on the thigh and all the power is from the hip turning and the body momentum
jonny232323232323 1 year ago
we condition, our knuckles,chins,under arm both sides, back hand, rib cage, elbow and and and i can keep going
VBH8888 2 years ago
or you can buy a coconut and travel around with that and build up your fists, jsut make sure you keep it cold so it will be harder, dont try to break it, try to build off it, there is a difference
theconqueror 2 years ago
i do this too but with all 4 of my knuckles because i started with only big 2 but then somehow like my knuckles sunk in so i use all 4 now.
vmntmn 2 years ago
use the 2 big ones. ther stronger and when hiting u want least surface area. its not a push its suppost to pass as much energy to ur opponent as possible with least suface area.
VBH8888 2 years ago
ha ha mate thats awesome
bashdkmgt 1 year ago
Also, if you do a straight punch from inside to outside (or centerline to centerline), using the elbow hinge instead of the shoulder (yes I know use the hip all strikes use the hip) and snap your wrist up instead of twisting it horizontal, it's faster and it doesn't telegraph.
odin2358 2 years ago
This is good, but DON'T RUB ANYTHING HARD against your arms. It dulls nerves, which is bad because you need to feel where the momentum of a person's arm is when you make contact. Whether or not you rub the shins depends on your style. If you do any in fighting, or little shin kicks, don't. You need the shin-on-shin sensitivity for infighting aswell. Tapping/hitting is different.
odin2358 2 years ago 2
would it be a problem for me to wrap a tree or metal pole with a foam pad and use that as a punching bag?
i dont have access to a normal punching bag, and one concern is because the pole or tree wont move as opposed to the punching bag which will at least swing.
nightmoon11 2 years ago
i saw a boxer with flat knucles - it came from hiting heavy bag full of sand ...
steelrot 2 years ago
but it will damage your knucles later on
goudmol15 2 years ago
concrete or brick walls work the best...you get over the pain
Dantheus 2 years ago
lol dumb ass... ur'll break ur god bam knuckles
Moderm101 2 years ago
i use concrete walls they work just fine
benl6693 2 years ago
of course yo do..... : /
Moderm101 2 years ago
Ya same, concrete floor coverted with carpet
ARandomCanadian 2 years ago
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would it be a problem for me to wrap a tree or metal pole with a foam pad and use that as a punching bag?
i dont have access to a normal punching bag, and one concern is because the pole or tree wont move as opposed to the punching bag which will at least swing.
nightmoon11 2 years ago
i found that if you rig a thick tapped carpet with logging chains running through it to simulate a thai heavy bag it works pretty well but i use a 20 lb weight at the bottom for extra weight so it won't swing around
DJDdph 2 years ago
its scientifically proven that you do real damage to your shins etc. when this sort of shin conditioning, kicking heavy bags is the safest option
FableTv 2 years ago
how is that possible though, they are worked the same way, impact toward the shin, except the heavy bag the hit is spread more through ur leg every kick
bmx42O 2 years ago
well there you go haha answered your own question the impact area is greatly vastaned therefore the force is taken over a larger area causing less damage also a heavy bag is softer than your bone and will move out of the way when hit this wont, this will take the impact and stay stationary causing more damage.
FableTv 2 years ago
the impact is the same force with heavybag or stick. it does the same damage but there is less damage at one point in the leg so its less likely to get damaged through repetetive hits
bmx42O 2 years ago
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would it be a problem for me to wrap a tree or metal pole with a foam pad and use that as a punching bag?
i dont have access to a normal punching bag, and one concern is because the pole or tree wont move as opposed to the punching bag which will at least swing.
nightmoon11 2 years ago
not bad
Tranquil787 2 years ago
im 15 what should i start to harden?
shins
knuckles
palm
or all?
babd34 2 years ago
right now- 15 isn't young.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 2 years ago
excuse me, I read when. Try shins and knuckles, palm strikes are inferior to knuckle strikes, with the exception of slapping a man's ears.
Ebuverthebicepcurler 2 years ago
knuckles
get some paracord, and either a piece of wood, hard plastic or small smooth stone.
wrap which ever item you choose wth the paracord if you want hollow it out, just be careful and dont hit wth full force right off the bat good luck
Amarksyhk 2 years ago
is it okay to do it without the rope?
i punch on trees.
anirudhkrishnamani 2 years ago
i do knuckle conditioning without the rope wrapped arnd.
anirudhkrishnamani 2 years ago
dont rub your shins with a pipe.
TheSenseofTouch 2 years ago
cant you just kick and punch a cloth heavy bag with no gloves ?????
na6drifter 2 years ago
yeah, but you may as well wear hand wraps. hand wraps stop your skin splitting so you dont get blood on the bag
ax3ninja 2 years ago
maybe its just the way i wrap but wraps make my fist bleed when not used with gloves and if you use hand lotion after your done it stops your skin from splitting and bleeding
na6drifter 2 years ago
theres definatly something wrong wiht he way you wrap if hand wraps make your fist bleed
ax3ninja 2 years ago
that doesnt make much sense
bmx42O 2 years ago
Wolff's law
ARandomCanadian 2 years ago 2
thanks man
bmx42O 1 year ago
@bmx42O no problem
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@na6drifter i never had a problem with my hands bleeding while wrapped, i think you might be doing it wrong.. are you going between each finger then covering your knuckles with a horizontal layer?
NMghost223 1 year ago
that just happened to me like 5 min ago. I just kept on going and then i saw blood on the punching thing i made(same basics as the rope) and a couple of the joints just after the knuckles were bleeding
babd34 2 years ago
yea, for sure if you have a heavy punching bag that will work. ive kicked a punching bag over and over for 4 hours, i always stopped after my shins started bleeding. haha, seems extreme but thats how i worked up to this. so if you have one, yea.
Cman95 2 years ago
I've been conditioning my knuckles from the age of 9. My knuckles are truely rock-solid, and bumped out people think they're bruised because they're honestly that fucking devistating. I'm not boasting or anything, when I punch anything it doesn't hurt. I used to just like play bloody knuckles with my friends, dead arm matches, hook a brick wall (rofl, ended up tearing all my skin) and like punch some heavy shit. I didn't really do all the shit that professional recommend...
lnterview 2 years ago
@lnterview lol right.. my knucks are pretty devastating just by themselves.. each one is like half a inch wide and atleast 1/2 to 3/4 of an inches thick.. its like having 4 tiny concentrated points of contact.. when i bare knuckle box i cut my opponents face up pretty bad almost every time.. i used to punch truck tires at the shop i worked at through high school, that really helped toughen up my hands punching mud tire tread lol
NMghost223 1 year ago
seriously, just drink some milk man.
i've been hitting my shins with a wooden sword, but after doing it for 3 days i've got a line of bruises, i gotta wait for it to repair to see the effect its had.
ax3ninja 2 years ago
well obviously you maybe hitted your bones too hard, do not be inpatient youll end up hurting your self, and by the way when your shits repair, you wont see any result yet if you just did it for those 3 days this is a long term thing
lin900 2 years ago
the bones have cracked. im sure of that because it was a lil painful to put weight on it. so now when it heals over it'll heal thicker and should in theory be stronger. thats part of how conditioning works. and its been 2 days, the bruises are still there but i cant feel any pain from it. its pretty much worked so when it completely heals it should be pretty strong.
ax3ninja 2 years ago
ooh well then i hope you get good result then ^^
lin900 2 years ago
ax3ninja: 3 days? you've got to do it consistently for at least a couple months before you see any real results... it's also best to do it only 2-4 days a weeks so you give the bone time to heal after each session
Scr3amingN1nja47 2 years ago
well, after 3 days of conditioning and then letting it heal my shins were stronger... what you gonna do?
ax3ninja 2 years ago
im only 15 but i compete in mma should do these excercises now or should i wait till my body fully develops
yoyobuck 2 years ago
wait till your 21
ax3ninja 2 years ago
what about forearm bones, fingertips, all around your foot,, get a broomstick and have you friend beat the hell out of your ribcage (granted ive been training for 14 years so dont jump into an ass kicking and break bones) stand up straight left arm up and lean to the right, get your buddy start wacking the ribs
8137272424 2 years ago
@8137272424 the best way to condition your fingertips is to straighten your hand out and strike fingers first into water for about an hour and do that every day for a week, then move up to very very fine granulated sand, then to rice, then to pinto beans, eventually you can move up to thicker sand and gravel.. over time you condition your fingers to except straight on impacts that would normally jam the joint or break your finger..
NMghost223 1 year ago
im not saying go put everything you got into beating the hell out of an object but if you want solid bones of anything train them i like the train my weakpoints like the ribcage, under armpits, places that matrial arts teaches you to go for, but what happens when youve built i high pain tolernce? youll eat that technique and see what else they were taught for 100 bucks a month, knuckles and shins a a small fractions, they too easy, you overlook week points on most people
8137272424 2 years ago
Just to let you know. Rolling a pin up and down your Shins, can f**k up your legs. You won't be able to walk after 15 years. I know this from experience. Killing nerves in the shins doesnt do anything. Just kick a bag, beare shins.
xCriSpii 2 years ago
I train taekwondo and they teach us to condition the same part of the fist as you show. I agree that this area is best for striking but I got blocked by an elbow (reflex defense) and I was forced to hit with my whole fist (my pinky took all the impact). Since then I've been conditioning my whole hands. You may never know what to expect.
vrchacho 2 years ago
If you paid attention to the end, he said "do not hurt yourself." Bone conditioning is a slow process that strengthens over time. If you immediately go all out, you will permanently damage your joints.
For taekwondo, it would be wise to condition the heel of the palm, knife hand, and ridge hand portions of the hand as well.
desentrix 2 years ago
You got me wrong, I did not say to hurry up with the conditioning. I ment you don't know which part of your body you will use to hit. Your opponent is a moving target, thus makes it harder to hit with your small trained surfaces.
If you do an overall body conditioning, or just condition your entire forearms and shins you get a better chance of lending a conditioned bone strike.
vrchacho 2 years ago
lol ... poly rope? how many turns did u make on that? lol
raulurrutia 2 years ago
hey i have a question. when your bones get harder will you then feel less pain?
RockNRollSoldier1 2 years ago
if you train punching yourself yes
tlast2012dude 2 years ago
bones have nothing to do with pain. you feel pain with your small nerves in your skin who send impulses to your brain. When you punch with your bare knuckle like this guy does, then the nerves die and you feel less pain. If you dont practice the nerves regenerate. Im a boxer I dont practice bare knuckle but I do push ups on my knuckles -> less pain, less injuries while killing your nerves
axxerr 2 years ago
i heard that knuckle pushups increase the effectiveness of the workout by puttin more strain on the muscles. is it true?
RockNRollSoldier1 2 years ago
which muscles do you mean exactly? Im not sure I think its identical.
Push ups on knuckles are also good to harden and strengthen the position of your wrist to prevent snapping it when you are boxing.
If you practice a martial art where you fight bare knuckle with palm strikes then its better to do push ups on the palms.
It always depends what you want to train.
Dynamic push ups are like simulating punches so be sure you have the same position of hands (horizontal / vertical)
axxerr 2 years ago
you know the muscles that you use to do pushups. mainly the chest and the triceps
RockNRollSoldier1 2 years ago
not really but if u do pushups on ur knuckles, the range of motion is bigger which makes knuckle pushups a bit more effective
o6dude 2 years ago
I don't use a synthetic rope, but a natural one. but more painful maybe.
Lynwe 2 years ago
is that a tae kwon do punch. nt a straight right frm boxing m8.
mannions93 2 years ago
do u happen to use medicine wine afterwards btw
SoundwaveSuperior373 2 years ago
push ups on your knuckles is very good too.
rishie2002 2 years ago
yeah but that is to train your wrists not the bone strength.
tlast2012dude 2 years ago 2
believe me your knuckels will harden
rishie2002 2 years ago
cool
IronFistDemo 2 years ago
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bigdud12345 2 years ago
nah punch with your first 2 fingers because its inline with your forearm i make my knuckles bigger and may hands harder by punching wet sand in a bucket
liamfrantic 2 years ago
Training of the fists require a straight on wing chun punch not a boxers punch. Boxers staight is bad for your wrists.
windowwisher 2 years ago
yeah that can be true, but you should always try and land punches with knuckles 1 and 2 (like in the vid) or 2+3+4..
GaryT85 2 years ago
I use all my knuckles and I punch Iron as hard as i want and no blood or pain. this stuff works u must go slow tho its taken me 9 years to get ot this.
IronFistDemo 2 years ago
Don't hurt yourself??? you serious? no pain no gain dude! but if he's talking about joint pains and injuries ok lol
sisou14 2 years ago