Traditional Karate Masters Series 1

[hextacy1]

shogun fucked him up becuase as well as being a great muay thai fighter, he had to train with the world karate champion for six months to work out ways to counter Lyoto,also machida became too emotional and began acting uncharactisicly and he got rocked for it plain and simple, you cant argue hes good before shogun he was undefeated....guess he was lucky numerous times lol also look up yahara he does secuirty for buisnessmen protecting them from the yakuza but i suppose u could kick thier ass

[ennot]

so where is the master in this video? Lots of black belts that don't know sh.t and can't move is all I could see

[2redstick]

@spacecadet35, agree with you 100%. The worst is that guy who keep making those funny noise. They are not KIAI. Specially in Sotokan, the kiai are Eii and Yaa only.

[spacecadet35]

Umm. A lot of really bad technique here. I know "a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick", but if I were to do any of these techniques this badly I would be castigated severely. A punch must be able to hit its target. 75% of the strikes by the attackers are just fanning air. 75% of the counters will not hit anything and are often after the attacker has stopped their strike. "Train as you mean to fight". On the whole, the best group in this video are the women.

[Zowez]

seems very relaxed... which is a GOOD thing!!!!

always see too many people bunch with their shoulders which may look stronger but bunching when relax, twisting the the hip and feet make it a lot stronger but not as tiring

Osu!!!

[TonyPstunts]

I REALLY like this exercise! Similar to doing a 5 person pinan bunkai! Great stuff!

And to the douche bags talking about "mma this and street fighting that". CHILL OUT! Karate is an art thats been around for the better half of a thousand years. These people dont practice for the glory of being in a televised fight, or for sponsorship, or for money.

[Wykesidefruitmachine]

From a Boxer/TKD perspective; the hands look good, but I think the kicks look a bit weak. I know this isn't a 'real' situation, but you should train as though it were... Brilliant angles and capable practicioners. Very enjoyable. Thumbs up.

[zenkenshu]

And Ryo Chonan the men tha won to Anderson Silva in pride, Chonan so ist karatemen, karate now and alwais ist the true domo arigato gosai machita

[edlo123]

sreet fights, people dont throw punches in a karate stance. they come at you wild, and swinging. this type of trianing is not practical.

unles you fight with someone of your style.

[MoviesInc2012]

@edlo123 i agree with you about the real fighting completely people just come at you and swing and go crazy......which acually belive it or not makes it even easier......all these punched you are seeing seem very weak and you would think you can never use them but they are as strong as a punch gets... if done properly.....fighting against your own style is much harder. a person whos mastered karate should be able to fight a street fighter without even trying. i promise...but i get what you mean

[celebratingfantasy]

They do it wrong.

[mplzR]

@celebratingfantasy

Well, you are clearly an expert compared to Mikami sensei :DD

[celebratingfantasy]

Yes im!

[johndejac73]

i work out with mikami every few months and he will drill your dick in the dirt!

[brickshooter]

Wait!

Wait!

I've never seen 4 on 1 in the UFC before. So it can't happen in real life!

[sirsmokealotz]

Awesome training technique.. would be cooler if he mixed the order up more

[kitemaster55]

Awesome training Mikami is one of the worlds great karate teachers. JKA is the highest standard for karate.

[domal2]

I liked the video. I think they should had been closer though, but no need to risk getting a black eye when ur just having fun and learning.

[EdmondD1]

I've just passed my 3rd Dan grading with Sensie Kawasoe, only people who do not understand Karate will critisise it. Krate when applied properly is devistating, therefore we have to conrol our technics when sparring, otherwise we would be injuring people who are our friends.

[KurosakiKichigo653]

hooo hooo!!! the best thing about Karate is not that it has a strong offence... the solid defence and the hard blocks make it almost impossible for ur defence to be penetrated... i am just a redbelt but the blocks made me improve... to me, karate is all about blocking :P

[guitarrocker8]

master mikami comes to my dojo to do rank tests alot and he kinda scares me because he so many fatal techniques it is almost unreal

[yurifoi]

wow!how much shit!the karate prepare the fighter to run long spaces in no time and to time the perfect block!(thai dont block!just hit each other like no brain people!)im a kyokushin and shotokan black belt and im sure:karate teach you to dominate the enemy space in batle!

[Akapowa]

Sure..but not sportive karate (your kyokushin Karate doesnt allow Jodan punches). New karate is becoming like a dance with its karas. During championships you must controll your contact so you start learning not to hit seriously to KO. Muay Thai and other Martial arts are getting better than this type of karate. Sure the right way would be the best,but only few people practice it

[XIPM3]

karate is so dumb looooooooool :D i am sorry by i cannot take any karate practioner seriously.

[Royajin]

you are really ridiculous ... you cannot take any karate practitioner serously?

did you ever fight? did you ever fight against a karateka? have you ever seen lyoto machida or one of the other karatekas fight in the ufc? have you ever seen a real karate tournament?

[m1dkn1ght]

In other words MuayThaiStrong, everything you said is entirely the opposite of what is actually true of Karate. Look at Lyoto Machida, George St Pierre, and Chuck Liddel who all have a karate background of some sort.

[tomasleeman]

Frank Mir also traditional karate background. It is interesting that traditional Karate practioners are now the Dominate force in UFC.

[retepish]

@tomasleeman I can't believe you just used the words traditional and UFC in the same sentence. There is no real martial art in what they do in the octagon. Yes there are elements there, but if they were truly traditional they wouldn't be in an octagon to begin with.

[patrickhenrysghost]

@retepish Youre right. Theyd be running their cockholsters and never backing it up.

[retepish]

@patrickhenrysghost Who, the MMA'rs or the real martial artist?

[patrickhenrysghost]

@retepish MMA practitoners DO back their mouths up. Most TMA's are arrogant and dangerously over-confident. That being said,many many good fighters come from Karate. But people who are afraid to spar/compete/test their skills against others are more often then not braggarts and douche-bags.

[retepish]

@patrickhenrysghost I did use the term "real martial artist" I know that there are those types in the martial arts world. I wasn't including them in my comment. What I was talking about were the ones who take budo into there lives and really live by it. Who practice every day, for that moment that hope never comes, but know that it might. In MMA there are rules that aren't there on the street. There are no rules when you are fighting for your life or the life of someone you care about..

[retepish]

@patrickhenrysghost I ran out of room..... I am not saying that there aren't good fighters in MMA, I know for a fact that there are. What I am saying is that MMA does the exact revers of Budo. Where is the Honor in beating someone down that you otherwise might like for nothing more then money?

[patrickhenrysghost]

@retepish Who says none of these guys are friends or that they dont like each other?I see way better sportsmanship amongst competetive fighters then I ever have amongst TMA's. And Ive trained in both.

TMA does the exact opposite, by putting some huckster who calls himself a "master" in a God like status while he takes your money. Besides,nothing is as humbling or teaches respect like a good ass-whooping. TMA learn how to simply become arrogant.

[retepish]

@patrickhenrysghost I have run into a lot of them who aren't friends...  Sportsmanship isn't what I am talking about when I said Budo. Although I know a lot of people seem to take the terms as interchangeable. And I agree with you about the "masters" most of whom have gotten that title in a black belt mill (like a puppy mill). I have had the honor of meeting two masters, neither call themselves such. They live by the ways of budo. Neither of them like MMA,to be continued...

[retepish]

@patrickhenrysghost they both have to problem calling it bare fisted competition fighting

[Freestyleartclub]

@retepish put your honor to your ass...in real fight when somebody will hit your wife your kid and you defence your self you only thinkin how to finish him , or he will finish you..do not talk about honor if you do not know what is honor..karate is honor?japanese monkey senseis traveling around world seling belts making money and going back is it honor?

[Freestyleartclub]

@tomasleeman traditional karate is shittest dance art ever... frank mir is Brazilian juijutsu Lyoto Machida, George St Pierre, and Chuck Liddel they all use muay thai...i have never senn they use shit fake karate gyaku zuki or age uke or gedan baraii..karate fake as chinese ferari..if you compare muay thai with karate thats mean you moron kid...muay thai i real fighting art

[hextacy1]

@Freestyleartclub If ignorance is bliss then you are in total nirvana.

If you closely watch Machida you see a lot of his karate training his non punch fist go’s to his hip, he does jun zuki Punches aka (jab) you can see him twist his wrist as he makes contact with his opponent, his stance and the way he moves and pivots is relative to jyu ippon kumite ,he does mawashi geri and mai geri kicks (textbook Shotokan) using the exact technique we lean and train doing every day .

[Freestyleartclub]

@hextacy1 gyaku zuki my ass//do not be stupid///thats why shogun fucked him out...karate shotokan is not martial art...

[Freestyleartclub]

@m1dkn1ght traditional karate is shittest dance art ever... frank mir is Brazilian juijutsu Lyoto Machida, George St Pierre, and Chuck Liddel they all use muay thai...i have never senn they use shit fake karate gyaku zuki or age uke or gedan baraii..karate fake as chinese ferari..if you compare muay thai with karate thats mean you moron kid...muay thai i real fighting art

[m1dkn1ght]

@Freestyleartclub Unfortunately you just confirmed your own ignorance with this statement. Facts: Chuck Liddel is a black belt in Kenpo Karate (5th Degree) & Koei-Kan Karate. Frank Mir is a BB in Kenpo Karate as well as BJJ. GSP is a 3rd Degree BB in Kyokushin Karate. Machida is a 3rd degree BB in Shotokan. Do they practice Muay Thai as well? Yes. I'm sorry you're so biased. I see things to be learned & valued in every MA style. But to simply deny the effectiveness of Karate is just silly.

[m1dkn1ght]

@Freestyleartclub I like Muay Thai. I like Karate. I like BJJ. I like Judo. I like Western Boxing. I like Wing Chun. I value ALL martial arts and find none to be the end all, be all. Citing the fact that Shogun beat Machida means nothing as far as styles go. It does NOT and CANNOT mean that Muay Thai is "better" than Karate. ALL it can mean is that Shogun was the better fighter that night. It is not the style that is "better" than another, it is the relative skill of the respective practitioners

[Freestyleartclub]

@m1dkn1ght muay thai better than karate shotokan..how can you compare fighting art with nothing...shotokan is not fighting art..shotokan does not teach you how to fight..those stance air punches kicks just waste of time.. last 20 years people who really interested in martial arts they know that if you want learn self defence and how to fight you need know muay thai strikes and gapling BJJ or Judo...thats all....all other martial arts just wasting time

[m1dkn1ght]

@Freestyleartclub I don't get why you bother comparing styles? That is just such a pointless argument. I hate myself for even going into this with you. I don't get how you're trying to deny Karate. You cannot ever prove that. But I can certainly provide examples of Karate being far from a "waste of time." You should try telling Machida that Karate is "wasting time." It has obviously been of GREAT benefit to them. Compare fighters, not styles. Styles don't fight styles. People fight People.

[Freestyleartclub]

@m1dkn1ght shotokan is not fighting art..and machida trains not shotokan for fight.he trains top team gym..did you ask your self if karate works why machida does not stay in his karate gym ,instead of that he pays heaps of money to train in top team gym?because he want get best strikes from muay thai..he muay thai+BJJ to fight..i did not see him using kata when he fight/// you should 11 years old if you belivie shotokan is fighting art

[fernandobodi]

muaythaistrong: You are a practicioner of Muay thai (thai boxing), you are 19 or 20 years old and and you feel free to state that "Karate is not designed to be effective" and "the style and technique is impractical and easy to defeat"???

Please, keep practicing your thai sport and stay out of martial arts. You don´t have the knowledge, experience nor respect to make such comments. Past and present history proves that serious martial arts are effective, many martial artist are not, though.

[muaythaistrong]

and eveyone stop saying that karate's aim is to end the fight in one fatal blow, whoop de doo you can break boards with the same density as 1\3rd " plywood, or bricks balanced on pencils so they require very little force to gain leverage to break them, that doesnt make you strong, or focused, it makes you a douchebag for bragging about it.

[m1dkn1ght]

God, you're ignorance is disturbing. Clearly you do not know anything about Karate AT ALL. Everything in karate is based around proper body dynamics for effective power, efficiency, & speed utilizing correct body & bone structure to support a powerful impact and recoil. This includes direct rotation, reverse rotation, vibration, dropping (gravity assisted), pendulum movement, and many other hip utilizing motions in a strong foundation/stance that allows for recovery, defense, and mobility.

[hextacy1]

@m1dkn1ght its like trying to talk to a brick wall they will not and never belive about the effictivness of techniques and kime

karate is better off without those people who we need to explain ourselves to.

[muaythaistrong]

the problem with karate is that it is effective in the same way CPR is effective as a life-saving method----NOT AT ALL. its not designed to be effective, and it was never created to be, its a simple reflex training to give you something to think about and focus on to avoid panicing. Very few strikes have any power because they are not designed off of principle dynamics of muscular structure and motion, not to mention that the style and technique is impractical and easy to defeat. period.

[muaythaistrong]

wow, he sure is a master! after lots of practice he could stop people from slowly extending their right arm 1 at a time from the exact same angles! golly gee, i hope he doesnt beat me up!

[SKIFTIGER]

Well,Machida(the cage fighter) who went through this basic training with Shotokan(JKA) is the world champion.He took Evans out last month.He is also a black belt in BJJ.This training can be boring.However highly beneficial for co-ordination.

[Samtex2660]

you actually have no clue what u r talking about.

[cpisretartedmuch]

is black belt rank 2 intermediate? asswipe

[Specter1957]

saw a lot of loose fists in there.....they may want to look at makiwara training as well......the hand can be a fragile thing

[4383029]

this thing about most fights end on the ground. hello, that's why we train to eliminate our opponent with one blow, so you don't go to the ground and get stomped on by your opponents friend. i like the concept to effective striking since you can tailor it to one or multiple opponents

[shotokanshdn]

I agree, like I always said, it only ends on the ground if you let it. And the ninjutsu practitioner's quote is good... but here's another from the founder of my style (shotokan karate-do) "The true purpose of karate does not lie in victory, nor defeat, but in the perfection of the character of its participants".- Funakoshi sensei. That quote and also "Karate Ni Sente Nashi" have been "embetted" in my soul.

[omegaice8]

Very True..Funakoshi Sensei was a great man..Oss

[dormantninja]

eeehhh, he just wanted to sound cool, "little ninja" doesn't know any better lol

[maceioninjutsu]

I dont like karate, but I promise you this karate boys HIT HARD!!!!

[deek77]

The important thing isn't which martial art is the best, but which one is the best FOR YOU! Even back in the day, certain kungfu, karate an jujutsu systems were better suited for certain body types, and within those systems practitioners took certain techniques to add to their person arsenal.

So if karate is what you excel at and it works for you physically and ideally, then so be it. Same for boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ, JKD, etc. Each art has strengths and weakness just like each person.

[bigassballsyes]

Hey, check out Machida, he uses a bit of Karate, a bit anyway lol...respect.

[tomasleeman]

Frank Mir, Lyoto Machida, GPS all traditional karate back ground. Frank Mir used a stepping reverse punch to beat his opponent. It is interesting how stong karate players are now emerging as the dominate force in the UFC as of late.

[ConqueringTyrant]

l've seen boxers use reverse punches. lol However, Karate well applied is a force in martial arts, but as far as karate goes, l don't think Mir or GSP use it that much. However, l respect Machida for taking advantage of the range use in his karate to defeat guys. Good for keeping brawlers away.

[wannabeebee]

Not every fight ends up on the ground.

Google up football matches. The ground has seats in some parts. Football fans going nuts and you prefer a ground game?

Wheres your ground game then?

In a massive crowd brawl do you want to be on the ground?

Use your brains dude

[ConqueringTyrant]

First of all, l wouldn't want to be in a crowd brawl. why? bc there;s no point..not even being mad at the world, l would wanna fight em all at once, its just rediculous.and ldc about stadium seats, you use your brain....as a martial artist you know your advantages and disadvantages..why would l wanna fight with all the seats around? not even doing stand up you'd have room to figh around a bunch of chairs.plus...l don' fight in public...not worh it.

[wannabeebee]

Sometimes a person doesnt have a choice where a confrontation takes place.

So as most top S/D trainers(who have also trained trad martial arts) state be prepared for all encounters.

Would you agree?

[ConqueringTyrant]

read Miyamoto Musashi's book of five rings, it'll help you understand a bit of what realistic fighting is all about. Not even being the most outsanding fighter you'd be able to fight em all at once, perhaps work your stances and aproach em one by one even surrounded.

[maceioninjutsu]

most fights do end up on the ground

[wannabeebee]

Maybe your fights do because perhaps you dont strike to good but I avoid the ground.

[maceioninjutsu]

"My My" A true martial artist avoids fights. so I dont go to the ground or stirke. ninjutsu artist we remain invisable in the shadows. As I stated before, most fights go to the ground. Arigato

[wannabeebee]

Your, Your. A true martial artist avoids illegal street fights but they train for them and if attacked will defend.

A true martial artist wouldnt have the fear to avoid full contact

anything goes legal sanctioned bouts now would they?

Or do you?

Ninjutsu in the shadows eh?

Be a bit difficult to find shadows while sitting watching a foot ball match unless the person your sitting behind is quite large.

[maceioninjutsu]

there nothing wrong in training for self defence. "Not even 100 thousand men on a battlefield can cause me fear" (Takumatsu sensei.) remember that quote because thats embetted in my soul. I will move like the wind if I was to be attacked. It doesn't matter if your a 10dan, if a 12 year old blows your brains out in the streets what the purpose of your art? hmm.. I wonder if you can grasp that? the best weapon in a fight is: not to be there/ or use your brain. Arigato

[wannabeebee]

Soldiers find if difficult to not be there during a fight.

Avoidance in any fight is good but sometimes it doesnt work like that does it?

I do use my brain thats why I am still around to post things

Oss

[maceioninjutsu]

how many real fights have you been in? well if the soilders didnt enlist they wouldn't be there again brains over bronze. if you used your brain then you would understand statistically most fights go to the ground "what dont you understand"? your a poster "fighter with words" wonderful that way you will never get killed, because your not fighting your typing on youtube...smart keyboard samurai grass hoppa. *bows*

[wannabeebee]

Well now if soldiers didnt enlist then little ninjas like you wouldnt have the freedom to type and sit on your computer would you?

Brawn I think you mean,

Brains over brawn.

I dont care for statistics after all that is the realm of writers isnt it?

How ever most fights do not go to the ground.

But being prepared is the best method..

Yes I am NOW a poster.

Its because I used my brains.

Little ninja. I dont bow, I am a Westerner.

[wannabeebee]

If you like the gound so much I suggest using the sewers when getting from A to B.

That way avoidance of humans is done.

Rats however might be a hinderance.

Better still just lie on the floor in a submissive poster that way the enemy might feel sorry for you and leave.

Learning to fight from all positions is the best method.

Ground fighting has its place but is best avoided,

[ConqueringTyrant]

Oh yeah, l think Chuck Liddel has done a good job utilizing his kempo and to finnish off my karate comment, l'll admire anyone that uses karate blocks and sweeps in MMA. l use sweeps all the time. love em, but don't get to see em in MMA with karate fihters. It's like, theyre inefective, which theyre not bc it's all how you use em to your advantage.

[ConqueringTyrant]

plus....mix jiujitsu with karate, boxing or muay thai.. you'll be the deadliest ever.

[ismaeleo]

Multiple opponents usually attack depending on your body position: i.e. you steer the fight: that's why shifting & moving about is another necessary training to avoid being attacked by two people at exactly same time.

sorry for long response

[Ty921]

+ thats why SKIF has Kada its made to act an scene where someones attacking you.

[ismaeleo]

Working on the response could mean timing, stability, stamina, endurance, form, power, not being stuck with one technique... etc.

When faced with a real combat position, one has to think on their feet, literally. No time to think of what technique, so you use your opponents body movement in deciding how to counter.

[ismaeleo]

This exercise is meant for first degree black belts (Shodans) to work on their response when attacked from different directions. It is not meant to simulate a real fighting condition.

[bigassballsyes]

against 3 guys your finnished anyway, there is no MA that is effective against 3 capable men.

[kalesm74]

it never fails evrytime you watch a martial arts clip some people cant wait to tell the world there expertise hahha im a boxer or i study this m.a i would do this to this master,fuk talk is cheap and who cares obviously if the only way you are able to tell the world how good you are is through youtube, u obviously are knowone of any note hahaha

[bigassballsyes]

As my main background is boxing, I'm very comfortable standing and have been there for real in competition and street, it's never failed me. One on one, BJJ gives me a sizeable advantage. Respect to this vid btw.

[7majestic]

hahahahaha

[brickshooter]

An armbar would be a perfect defense for multiple attackers if one can politely as the other three to not stomp on your head while you armbar his friend.

As for the training, I suggest that the defender slow it down and apply power strikes as he/she only gets one strike per attacker before being overcome by the other three.

[bigassballsyes]

lol look at their defense, now that's asking to get ko'd!

[bigassballsyes]

I respect all MA but had to leave TMA to enter reality. I have the utmost respect for Master Mikami or the likes but I would armbar him in under a minute, and I'm a white belt BJJ and ex boxer.

[thankful2one]

As soon as BJJ people start grappling in parking lots I will throw out all my TMA and go completely BJJ. Don't think it will happen. BJJ people that only do grappling need additional skills for self defense.

[farorin]

Reality? Are you retarded? There aint nuthin' real about BJJ. Its a sport, and thats all it will ever be, most modern day "effective" martial arts are only sports. Traditional styles are much more deadly, and are much more than just sport.

[ConqueringTyrant]

you're a fucking idiot lol BJJ is the deadliest martial art. It isn't just a sport. Right, it is a one man on man combat art, but what garantees you that by knowing Karate you'll fight 15 men and win? be smart, know what is human handable and what isn't. You can't win the figt? run..simple as that. no martial art is capeable of taking a knife away from an agressorr in real life. get real' l love karate and have done it, l was also outstanding, but it's no garantee against a gang either..

[farorin]

BJJ... Is less effective in everything but sport or ring fights. Traditional karate also has grappling, and is much more dynamic, and street applicable than sport karate. I'd feel much more comfortable and confident with a true karateka backing me up in a fight against multiple foes, than a BJJ idiot that would spend the whole fight rolling aroun just trying to armbar a singular foe.

[ConqueringTyrant]

l'd like to hear you say that before you get your head all fucked up from being wrapped up on the ground =) Also, BJJ is FURTHER more effective in real life than in the ring, cause now all athletes atleast know how to sprawl against a takedown, idiot, and in real life it only takes second to kill someone with any kind of a choke along.and any kind of grappling karate could have will always be inferior to the skill of any full time grappler, think before you talk. USE perspective.

[farorin]

I've been choked before, and if you've had any training against them, they dont always work as much as the choker would hope. In the time a choke would take to kill somone, there is every chance there friends might have came along to help or they themselves found a way to get out of it, assuming that the grappler can find the choke to begin with. True the grappling within karate wouldnt be as detailed as BJJ, but in the street, striking is more effective anyway.

[ConqueringTyrant]

dude, shut up, geez. all you do is bitch so much, you like karate then go be a fantazy ninja and end it. BJJ is the ULTIMATE. and you're theory no grappling is COMPLETLY wrong. and don't forget that what you call" sport" is reality.bavk to when the UFC started all those so other" traditional" styles din't have a chance. also why muay thai, jiujitsu and boxing are mainly used in MMA is bc they were the arts most effective back when UFC started with NO WEIGHT DIVISION.

[farorin]

Ground based fights are boring, impractical, illogical and stagnate. And you good sir, are an ass.

[ConqueringTyrant]

lol dude..what's made jiujitsu so popular is bc it's PRACTICAL. bc it NEVER FAILS. Your opponent could be three times your size and through technnique and good base you can still defeat em..Dude, how old are you?Illogical?it's the most logical martial art bc every fight ends up on the ground..speciall with guys bigger than you....every movie is so logical that you can;t even defeat it unless you know the science behind it..

[farorin]

OK man... Heres the thing... Have you ever been in a real fight? or even seen a real fight in person? Not many of them actually end up on the ground unless one of the fighters is a grappler, and even then, most of the time it can be avoided by simple footwork and intelligence. ask any good or regular street fighter and they will tell you that if you get taken to or knocked to the ground, the worst thing to do is stay there, and to get back up on your feet and stop rolling around like a fuckhead.

[ConqueringTyrant]

hm, more fights than you'll ever wish to be =p and l'm an expertise on the ground and a karateka on my feet with additional boxing skills ^^

[wannabeebee]

Türken schlagen Deutsche Polizisten halb tot!.

Look at that video dude.

See if you like the gound game?

Plenty of BJJ do you think?

Well if some of those police men did trad karate and attended a kata/ technique training by one of the top guys they wouldnt have ended up like they did?

But you wouldnt know that would you?

BJJ has its place.

So does stand up and trad karate training.

Boxing is fine except they dont condition their limbs.

[ConqueringTyrant]

obviously stand up has it's place too. but BJJ breaks the rules of stand up. =) and it doesn't matter what you do to your limbs, in a realistic fight no one is going to aim at your lims 50% of the time. They'll aim at your head 98% of the time, and there's no conditioning for tha, it's either you take it and say on your feet or you're out, retard.

[wannabeebee]

Sometimes I wonder.

In S/D the limbs are conditioned to be used for striking with.

Not so much in case they are struck at????

The mind sometimes boggles.

Bit less of the retard calling dude!!!

Think eh??

[ConqueringTyrant]

and l never said there was anything with reverse punches, don't you know how to read? l said just bc he used a reverse punches it does not meas he's a karateka...cause l've seen a lot boxers use reverse punches. and working range is about the only thing you could use as a karateka that gives you advantages over other stand up styles

[wannabeebee]

You have been watching to much of the watered down karate.

Karate has

hooks uppercuts jabs overhand rights head butts and a whole heap of other stuff.

I think you have been miss lead as to what karate is.

It happens dont worry.

You might want to consider watching a good practioner.

Very early shotokan trained such things.

Very early.

[4383029]

BJJ is for ring fighting and that's about it. yeah it's effective against one opponent but really are you going to roll around on the ground against three guys. it's always funny when people talk about martial arts and they always forget that it is the person that really makes it what it is. the better fighter is not determined by style but rather by fighting spirit and determination.

[ConqueringTyrant]

Thank you, Bigas. These folks are iggy.

[ettennyl62]

Cookie cutter thetruthwm2 you are young and are probably just repeating something your teacher has said if you knew anything about karate or had any real experience you would know who these people are. So we forgive you your youth and lack of understanding. Before you judge come and train.

[onebigkiss]

Define what you mean by cookie cutter, because in every school or dojo I have trained at or visited. No Teacher taught the same way, but taught every student the same thing.

[thetruthwm2]

is this in WA and i was always told karate was very ridged very force full i have only recieved a first degree black belt in shodok but you look like a cookie cutter school

[bnclegnon]

truth, if u know ANYTHING about Shotokan Karate, then u know about Master Mikami. A direct pupil of Master Ginchin Funakoshi. There is NOTHING cookie-cutter bout Mikami. this is a summer camp for karateka to work on smiple drills thats all. Did u click on this expecting 2 find the UFC?

Karate is more robotic than traditional Kung Fu for sure, but all Karate is a decendant from kung fu & the similarities can be found if one looks closely enough.

Master Mikami is a living legend in Shotokan.