LOOK ANY TF G1 FAN ON YOUTUBE!!!!! I am in this argument with someone if you just read my other comments you will see who. He says g1 windcharger is alive because he was in the headmasters. If you are a true fan you will know the movie wasn't releised in japan until after that episode aired, so they didn't know he was dead. If you could please just prove to him he is wrong so he will stop bugging me I would be glad.
windcharger and jazz!cool!!(and yes that isnt bumblebee it genuinly is windcharger as he and wheeljack SURVIVED the movie. they where just heavily damaged. this episode marks the only time these 2 are seen in this series but on a side note jazz would survive all the series and the headmasters and witness cybertrons new golden age. way to go jazz.
yeah, so what its just bumblebee its not like he is dead like windcharger. Bye the way it is called an animation error we all know it shows windcharger and so what.
@MrMandude365 windcharger isnt dead, he wasnt killed in the movie nor was he on the list of casualties. its likely like wheeljack who also isnt dead(proven because 1>their bodies didnt change into black like transformers do when they die,2>hes seen in this epside and 3>neither of them are on any casualty list)
its likely wheeljack and windcharger where heavily damaged and knocked out when arcee dragged them in, so that genuinly is windcharger and jazz in the background
@kawrght Please do everyone a favor and look it up on tfwiki.net and then watch the movie. After that tell me what you have learned and admit YOU ARE WRONG!
dont be a jerk, if you want proof hes in the japanese series. alive and well.
both windcharger and wheeljack OFFICIALLY survived the movie. if they dont go black(die) their alive. windcharger and wheeljack where KO'd but still fully coloured and theres been no comment on animation errors for them, so they are alive. they are missing from the credits and death list. THEY ARE ALIVE. jazz survived the movie too but his voice actor didnt(hence missing)
@kawrght No, they are dead! The only reason the are in the japenese series is because the movie didn't air until after tf victory was reasleased. So they didn't know they where dead. Don't call me a jerk man. I just don't want people to go around spreading wrong info about transformers.
@MrMandude365 what are you a decepticon? you are a jerk. someone who wasnt a jerk woldnt have been insulting as you where. ive seenEVERY SERIES(EVEN THE HORRID ENERGON)OF TRANSFORMERS AND ALL BUT 1((THE LATEST ONE)) OF THE MOVIES!wheras you probably know nottin and want somone to insult. its all correct info. i dunno where you got that they where dead but i suggest you go and watch the movie and actually look this time. and it was aired after the movie.1 of them even appeared in s3 as an error.
@kawrght Well guess what pall, I have seen every series too! And I have seen ALL of the movies, so I know Way more about transformers than you. I am sorry that I insulted you, but you are driving me CRAZY. Not to mention I am trying to talk to some else on you tube that is also driving me CRAZY. Transformers G1 was an 80's cartoon so it had a LOT of errors. In japan the movie wasn't relied until long after the headmasters. So they didn't know they where dead. And by the way energon is awsome.
@MrMandude365 look. your a waste of my time and your clearly wasting your life. and everyone elses. get a life, stop having a go at me and look at the evidence for yourself dumbass. 1>their bodies never changed colour, transformers g1 states when a transformer dies it turns black, and those 2 didnt. 2>their names where never read out on the list of autobot dead or seen in the mosolium. 3>they arnt in the end credits.in other words theres no evidence to prove they are dead.kindly dont reply.
@kawrght They don't always change color, duh. Just do yutube a favor and look it up please. all you have to do is go to tfwiki.net, search windcharger (g1), then scrool down until you see windcharger in the g1 cartoon. it will say his DEAD BODY was dragged in by arcee. I admit he was in the headmasters cartoon, but that was made in japan and the movie wasn't releised there until after that episode aired. It can be explained as an animation error wich g1 is filled with.
@MrMandude365 i did, it didnt. it says he was seriusly injured, not dead, your just a pig ignorant twit who doesnt want to admit hes wrong. i stated headmasters because although it wasnt affected by movie, its placed after the usa series(by 10 years i think), i could continue to waste my time but your too ignorant to listen, youve just taken the evidece they are alive and rather than read it, took a dump on it, your not a fan, get off youtube and learn to listen.
@kawrght All right you are a lier. I looked it up to. I says his CORPSE was dragged in. And you are wrong about the headmasters. In japan season 3 of g1 took place in 2010 and the american one took place in 2006. The headmasters only takes place a years after season 3. Wow you know absolutly NOTHING about transformers. I say it was just an animation error that windcharger was there, but if you are going to be stupid about it and say he is alive, then at leaste say he was revived and not wounded.
@MrMandude365 its like i said i cant be bothered to listen to someone whos as ignorant and self centred as you. you getting of youtube would improve everyones life.do everyone a favour, dont call yourself a fan. theres all sorts of stuff i didnt point out like arcees look of concern, not sadness, vector sigma..the forge ect ect. its just your too (set of words deleted)to listen. kindly get off youtube and get a life.
@kawrght I am a bigger fan then you will ever be. How dare you say that to me, correction how dare you call YOUSELF a fan. Windcharger is dead!!! Get over it and stop trying to explain every single error. I am sorry for being rude before but you just crossed the line. On top of that you lied by saying you looked it up and he was wounded. By the way I have a life but I like to watch videos sometimes. I think you are the one that needs a life. I suggest you get your facts straight before posting.
@MrMandude365 ive told you, since your such an ignorant self centred person i cant be bothered to deal with you anymore, the only thing i can suggest is for you to check the movie for yourself, or even twiki again which further down says that his absence from series 3 was never explained, because he was never destroyed. kindly grow up and stop reply and stop annoying me. if your watching cartoon and if you take pleasure in annoying me, trust me you do not have a life.
@kawrght I acualy own the movie. And it is called tfwiki.net not twiki.net. See that just proves you didn't even look it up. And I hate this argument but I know when I am right. If you are going to be one of those fans who try to explain every error like you and say he his alive ( wich he is not, he had a gaping hole in his chest in front of his spark) Then at the very least say he was revived. Because I can assure you he didn't live through the movie. I am not going to say he lived.
Which version of it? The DVD version or the old VHS version? I have, and personally prefer, the old VHS version that has the scroll at the beginning, which tells you what the plot is, as well as Vic Caroli's voice over at the end which tells you, among other things, that Optimus Prime would return, signifying to me that they always planned to bring Optimus Prime back at the end of the third season, even though they killed him off a third of the way into the movie.
Well, the DVD probably would have higher quality, but it is different. The DVD version, which is the one used on YouTube, does not contain the scroll at the beginning featuring the plot for the movie, nor the voice over at the end saying that Optimus Prime would return, and the DVD would probably feature more material in the movie itself.
@kawrght And by the ways what do you mean they wern't in the end credits? It is because they didn't talk so their voice actors where not in the credits. And g1 didn't suggest that when ever a transformer dies their body changes color. If you are going to say they are alive because they where in the headmasters then you should also admit that when ultra magnus died in the headmasters he didn't change color. You are just one of those fans who try to explain every error.
@MrMandude365 they didnt talk or need the voice actors so the voice actors wouldnt be in the end credits, what i meant was it wasnt in the end credits "dedicated to the deceased transformers(or somat like that) and list all the transformers that had been lost,and those two whernt in it. G1 does suggest when a transformer dies it goes black, they do it in the movie and in the series, and its in the script.never seen g1 have you?your pribably just familier with g2.havnt gotten that far on headmas
@MrMandude365 you dont sound like a fan at all, you just sound like a whinger. its basic transformers G1 lore when a transformers dies the detailing and colour goes black. seriusly what are you a decepticon?im bugging you?i asked you to stop replying so you would stop bugging me. your really ignorant, go and watch the movie. optimus prime and the others who die change colour,those 2 do not. even arcee sees they are alive or why would she drag them to safety in the middle of battle? quit bugginme
@kawrght Then what about ultra magnus. He died in the head masters and he didn't turn gray. If you where truely a fan at all you would know that only 2 transformers in g1 turned gray when they died. Starscream (who was desentergrated) and optimus prime (and there is a rumor that he was originaly soposed to be desentergrated, but they cut it out because they thought it would be to tramatizing). And what does not being in the credits have to do with them being alive.
@kawrght If you would just look it up we could settle this. Go to tfwiki.net PLEASE. Then search windcharger (g1). Scroll down to where it talks about the cartoon. And finaly tell me what it says. You will see he is dead, unless you are one of those fans who try to explain every error. G1 was filled with erorrs. The Japaneese g1 cartoons where known to have dead characters because the movie wasn't reliesed there yet so they didn't know they were dead. And she dragged them AWAY from the fight.
another classic with Grimlock in the lead.
uresei 2 days ago
I always wondered how they achieved that glowing effect at 13:11.
VZMkII 2 weeks ago
trololo
headstrong: i'll get there when im good and ready
thestarscreamER1 4 weeks ago
Notice at 5:43 Soundwave shooted some tapes that we see for the first time and he has never brought them out before...this is soo weird.
JAMPROJECT 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TelevisionFTW1
The only episode in season 3 where you see ravage
xpander33 1 month ago
reverse switch?!!! are you kidding me?!!!! Massive fail Primacron!
sanctifiedballa 1 month ago
was he playing Asteroids at the beginning? lol
sanctifiedballa 1 month ago
me love grimlock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
gonzalo30255 2 months ago
lol trypticon just flys in
gonzalo30255 2 months ago
Just enjoy the show guys! I love Grimlock <3
cronosiem 3 months ago
@batameez913 Thank you. The movie made it very clear they where dead. I don't know what was running through that guys head.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
2:33 yes windcharger my hero is back
Terrydinosaurking 3 months ago
LOOK ANY TF G1 FAN ON YOUTUBE!!!!! I am in this argument with someone if you just read my other comments you will see who. He says g1 windcharger is alive because he was in the headmasters. If you are a true fan you will know the movie wasn't releised in japan until after that episode aired, so they didn't know he was dead. If you could please just prove to him he is wrong so he will stop bugging me I would be glad.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
NOOOOO GRIMLOCK!!!!your the only transformer in this peice of (word deleted) series i actually liked!!!
kawrght 3 months ago
windcharger and jazz!cool!!(and yes that isnt bumblebee it genuinly is windcharger as he and wheeljack SURVIVED the movie. they where just heavily damaged. this episode marks the only time these 2 are seen in this series but on a side note jazz would survive all the series and the headmasters and witness cybertrons new golden age. way to go jazz.
kawrght 3 months ago
yeah, so what its just bumblebee its not like he is dead like windcharger. Bye the way it is called an animation error we all know it shows windcharger and so what.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 windcharger isnt dead, he wasnt killed in the movie nor was he on the list of casualties. its likely like wheeljack who also isnt dead(proven because 1>their bodies didnt change into black like transformers do when they die,2>hes seen in this epside and 3>neither of them are on any casualty list)
its likely wheeljack and windcharger where heavily damaged and knocked out when arcee dragged them in, so that genuinly is windcharger and jazz in the background
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght Please do everyone a favor and look it up on tfwiki.net and then watch the movie. After that tell me what you have learned and admit YOU ARE WRONG!
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 THATS WHAT IT SAYS sheesh.
dont be a jerk, if you want proof hes in the japanese series. alive and well.
both windcharger and wheeljack OFFICIALLY survived the movie. if they dont go black(die) their alive. windcharger and wheeljack where KO'd but still fully coloured and theres been no comment on animation errors for them, so they are alive. they are missing from the credits and death list. THEY ARE ALIVE. jazz survived the movie too but his voice actor didnt(hence missing)
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght No, they are dead! The only reason the are in the japenese series is because the movie didn't air until after tf victory was reasleased. So they didn't know they where dead. Don't call me a jerk man. I just don't want people to go around spreading wrong info about transformers.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 what are you a decepticon? you are a jerk. someone who wasnt a jerk woldnt have been insulting as you where. ive seenEVERY SERIES(EVEN THE HORRID ENERGON)OF TRANSFORMERS AND ALL BUT 1((THE LATEST ONE)) OF THE MOVIES!wheras you probably know nottin and want somone to insult. its all correct info. i dunno where you got that they where dead but i suggest you go and watch the movie and actually look this time. and it was aired after the movie.1 of them even appeared in s3 as an error.
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght Well guess what pall, I have seen every series too! And I have seen ALL of the movies, so I know Way more about transformers than you. I am sorry that I insulted you, but you are driving me CRAZY. Not to mention I am trying to talk to some else on you tube that is also driving me CRAZY. Transformers G1 was an 80's cartoon so it had a LOT of errors. In japan the movie wasn't relied until long after the headmasters. So they didn't know they where dead. And by the way energon is awsome.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 look. your a waste of my time and your clearly wasting your life. and everyone elses. get a life, stop having a go at me and look at the evidence for yourself dumbass. 1>their bodies never changed colour, transformers g1 states when a transformer dies it turns black, and those 2 didnt. 2>their names where never read out on the list of autobot dead or seen in the mosolium. 3>they arnt in the end credits.in other words theres no evidence to prove they are dead.kindly dont reply.
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght They don't always change color, duh. Just do yutube a favor and look it up please. all you have to do is go to tfwiki.net, search windcharger (g1), then scrool down until you see windcharger in the g1 cartoon. it will say his DEAD BODY was dragged in by arcee. I admit he was in the headmasters cartoon, but that was made in japan and the movie wasn't releised there until after that episode aired. It can be explained as an animation error wich g1 is filled with.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 i did, it didnt. it says he was seriusly injured, not dead, your just a pig ignorant twit who doesnt want to admit hes wrong. i stated headmasters because although it wasnt affected by movie, its placed after the usa series(by 10 years i think), i could continue to waste my time but your too ignorant to listen, youve just taken the evidece they are alive and rather than read it, took a dump on it, your not a fan, get off youtube and learn to listen.
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght All right you are a lier. I looked it up to. I says his CORPSE was dragged in. And you are wrong about the headmasters. In japan season 3 of g1 took place in 2010 and the american one took place in 2006. The headmasters only takes place a years after season 3. Wow you know absolutly NOTHING about transformers. I say it was just an animation error that windcharger was there, but if you are going to be stupid about it and say he is alive, then at leaste say he was revived and not wounded.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 its like i said i cant be bothered to listen to someone whos as ignorant and self centred as you. you getting of youtube would improve everyones life.do everyone a favour, dont call yourself a fan. theres all sorts of stuff i didnt point out like arcees look of concern, not sadness, vector sigma..the forge ect ect. its just your too (set of words deleted)to listen. kindly get off youtube and get a life.
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght I am a bigger fan then you will ever be. How dare you say that to me, correction how dare you call YOUSELF a fan. Windcharger is dead!!! Get over it and stop trying to explain every single error. I am sorry for being rude before but you just crossed the line. On top of that you lied by saying you looked it up and he was wounded. By the way I have a life but I like to watch videos sometimes. I think you are the one that needs a life. I suggest you get your facts straight before posting.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 ive told you, since your such an ignorant self centred person i cant be bothered to deal with you anymore, the only thing i can suggest is for you to check the movie for yourself, or even twiki again which further down says that his absence from series 3 was never explained, because he was never destroyed. kindly grow up and stop reply and stop annoying me. if your watching cartoon and if you take pleasure in annoying me, trust me you do not have a life.
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght I acualy own the movie. And it is called tfwiki.net not twiki.net. See that just proves you didn't even look it up. And I hate this argument but I know when I am right. If you are going to be one of those fans who try to explain every error like you and say he his alive ( wich he is not, he had a gaping hole in his chest in front of his spark) Then at the very least say he was revived. Because I can assure you he didn't live through the movie. I am not going to say he lived.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365
Which version of it? The DVD version or the old VHS version? I have, and personally prefer, the old VHS version that has the scroll at the beginning, which tells you what the plot is, as well as Vic Caroli's voice over at the end which tells you, among other things, that Optimus Prime would return, signifying to me that they always planned to bring Optimus Prime back at the end of the third season, even though they killed him off a third of the way into the movie.
cjs3872 1 month ago
@cjs3872 Either one, they are basicly the same acept for what you said and better quality. Their deaths are shown on both.
MrMandude365 1 month ago
@MrMandude365
Which had better quality? THe DVD or VHS version, which I bought about 12 years ago?
cjs3872 1 month ago
@cjs3872 The dvd. It is newer. It came out only a few years ago. But either one will do.
MrMandude365 1 month ago
@MrMandude365
Well, the DVD probably would have higher quality, but it is different. The DVD version, which is the one used on YouTube, does not contain the scroll at the beginning featuring the plot for the movie, nor the voice over at the end saying that Optimus Prime would return, and the DVD would probably feature more material in the movie itself.
cjs3872 1 month ago
@cjs3872 Yeah, but other than that it is the same. And the scroll wouldn't effect the amout of deaths in the movie wich is what I was talking about.
MrMandude365 1 month ago
@MrMandude365
Right. I was just referring to the overall differences between the two versions, not just the deaths in the movie.
cjs3872 1 month ago
@kawrght And by the ways what do you mean they wern't in the end credits? It is because they didn't talk so their voice actors where not in the credits. And g1 didn't suggest that when ever a transformer dies their body changes color. If you are going to say they are alive because they where in the headmasters then you should also admit that when ultra magnus died in the headmasters he didn't change color. You are just one of those fans who try to explain every error.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 they didnt talk or need the voice actors so the voice actors wouldnt be in the end credits, what i meant was it wasnt in the end credits "dedicated to the deceased transformers(or somat like that) and list all the transformers that had been lost,and those two whernt in it. G1 does suggest when a transformer dies it goes black, they do it in the movie and in the series, and its in the script.never seen g1 have you?your pribably just familier with g2.havnt gotten that far on headmas
kawrght 3 months ago
@MrMandude365 you dont sound like a fan at all, you just sound like a whinger. its basic transformers G1 lore when a transformers dies the detailing and colour goes black. seriusly what are you a decepticon?im bugging you?i asked you to stop replying so you would stop bugging me. your really ignorant, go and watch the movie. optimus prime and the others who die change colour,those 2 do not. even arcee sees they are alive or why would she drag them to safety in the middle of battle? quit bugginme
kawrght 3 months ago
@kawrght Then what about ultra magnus. He died in the head masters and he didn't turn gray. If you where truely a fan at all you would know that only 2 transformers in g1 turned gray when they died. Starscream (who was desentergrated) and optimus prime (and there is a rumor that he was originaly soposed to be desentergrated, but they cut it out because they thought it would be to tramatizing). And what does not being in the credits have to do with them being alive.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
@kawrght If you would just look it up we could settle this. Go to tfwiki.net PLEASE. Then search windcharger (g1). Scroll down to where it talks about the cartoon. And finaly tell me what it says. You will see he is dead, unless you are one of those fans who try to explain every error. G1 was filled with erorrs. The Japaneese g1 cartoons where known to have dead characters because the movie wasn't reliesed there yet so they didn't know they were dead. And she dragged them AWAY from the fight.
MrMandude365 3 months ago
ME GRIMLOCK SAVED UNIVERSE
jakeofyo 4 months ago
bumbee's on it
jewford1994 6 months ago
did anyone see bumblebee run bye
nbverigbsdfbfdbseuir 6 months ago
@nbverigbsdfbfdbseuir I also saw Jazz and Windcharger.
LStein 4 months ago