Vegan & Vegetarian Diet Comments, Nutrition & Wellness, Austin Natural Medicine

[johnmorsley]

It's funny, as soon as anybody says it's fine to have some animal products in their diet, they lose all credability. The science is most definetly against you in this respect!

[JohnnyWillner]

The cons you mentioned about a vegan diet towards the first half of the video were opinion based not fact based. What you think is hard might be easy for someone else. It's all relative. Second, you failed to mention a Raw vegan diet where there is no gluten present at all.

[natureasintended]

To find out the truth of the matter regarding essential fatty acids, protein and whether we each have different dietary needs, please look at Dr.Doug Graham's foodnsport and foodnsport on youtube.

[54321Adela]

She had me at licensed accupuncturist. LOL

[andrewmotisi8]

Her claim that the lack of protein is a concern for veganism is problematic. The protein your getting from a grain as oposed to an animal is far better in quality and does not promote cancer , which animal protein (especially casien) does in rats. LOL, those wonderful omega 3's that need to be taken in order for human survival are also a farse and falls into what Campbell calls, "Scientific Reductionism", a method used by the establishment to enhance capital via poor science and single claims.

[TearsofaGhost]

vegetarianism ftw :D

and no i dont take vitamin pills and no i dont need them. my doc says im super healthy. the body can get addicted to having vitamin pills and cant absorb as many vitamins naturally from food.

i would go vegan but i lack the motivation, and i eat eggs from my grandma's farm, so the chickens are happy and stuff. also i try to eat soy dairy substitute as often as possible, but i dont think i'll ever be completely vegan, i think vegetarian is good enough. yeah?

[GayVeganAtheist]

The next time you make a video about veganism, could you at least have a vegan nutritionist? After all, when you make nonvegan videos about nutrition, you have a nutritionist who follows the diet. Or, in both cases have two dieticians, one vegan and on not vegan.

[FatReleaseSystem]

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[truehealthyproducts]

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[musicloverarmeda]

The most information packed video I have seen in a while. Thanks!

[arsdag81]

@ShimonKeen That made absolute sense. I agree 100%. You must not be a vegan.

[fadimay]

lol Wait, But Cows do wanna eat corn tho right? omg I dnt wanna eat Beef anymore... especially when i go to America

[Gnostic279]

@fadimay Cows eat the grain because it's sweeter than their natural diet. Most plant eating animals will go after the sweeter or richer food when they can get it, including humans. So basically they are being tricked to eat an unatural diet by a sugar rush much the same way that we will eat cocopuffs for breakfast instead of oatmeal.

Look into to this, it's sickening what they do to those animals. She only brushed the surface of it in the video.

[Bekll]

I have been getting colds the past 2 months and drink 2-3 cups of milk a day. I don't care if it's worsening the mucus. Just as I won't let tinnitus control my diet (where I drink fewer caffeinated drinks or reduce salt intake) I won't let colds or my asthma stop me from having dairy. We shouldn't let things limit our diet unless they're life threatening such as a severe allergy. There are other ways to improve our health problems than cutting out our favorite foods and drinks.

[Gnostic279]

@Bekll

Now that's a good example of willfull ignorance. Stop being stubborn. U can probly clear up most of your symptoms just by fasting a few days on raw fruits and veggies to give your system a little time to cleanse.

[Bekll]

@Gnostic279 You completely misunderstood what I wrote. A few days changing your diet is fine, but if there's a simple condition/sickness that can be healed or cured via other means such as medicine then you don't need to alter your diet altogether for an extended amount of time, or even a lifetime. For the record, my diet is primarily fruits and vegetables.

[Gnostic279]

@Bekll Then it sounds like the dairy might be your only problem. Why keep eating something that is aggitating your immune system. Anyway the most important point i should make is that medicine can and usually are worst than the disease. Maybe you should check into that if you haven't. Anyway, it's your life, your choice. I just hate seeing someone suffer senselessly.

[Bekll]

@Gnostic279 Dairy contributes to the problem, it doesn't aggravate it, hence why it doesn't need to be cut out of the diet when medications can work (of which one I found finally helps) or other means. I have an allergy to wheat so I avoid it, I don't have an allergy to dairy so I won't avoid it. Why limit your diet when there are better options? Illnesses shouldn't run your life and take joys out of it.

[Gnostic279]

@Bekll See that completely contradicts your original post. I don't care. I just felt I should say something. If I am wrong or you just don't care what I say then so be it.

[Bekll]

@Gnostic279 No, you just completely misread the original post - as I already pointed out and which you stubbornly ignore. A few days change in diet is fine, a complete turnover is depriving yourself when you can turn to medicine instead.

[Gnostic279]

@Bekll See now ur ignoring my point. That is my whole point and was from the beginning. If something ur eating is causeing u problems stop eating it. Why would you buy medicine and put something in ur body that usually does not belong there to clear up symptoms when you could stop the disease buy not eating the problem.

2 other possibilities- long shots but possible. A diet of mostly veggies and raw food could be leaving your system in a detox mode there by causeing minor cold symptoms.

[Gnostic279]

@Gnostic279 And the other 1 - A diet mostly of veggies and raw foods could be leaving you a little deficient on a couple nutrients.

I offer these other possibilities because either your symptoms aren't that bad and u stubbornly refuse to stop eating dairy or on some level you don't really believe the dairy is the problem.

Just food for thought and things you might research. Do what you will with it. Good luck in your endeavors. I'm done.

[Bekll]

@Gnostic279 A change in diet due to allergies should occur, but a change in diet just to improve an illness short-term is not the best route.

"...buy medicine and put something in ur body that usually does not belong there"

Good point. Let's not give insulin to people with diabetes as it's not natural to their body and 'doesn't belong there'.

"...not eating the problem."

Then what you're eating you're allergic to. I already said eliminating that allergy *is* the best thing.

[GayVeganAtheist]

@Gnostic279 You say you can clear up your systems by fasting a few days on raw fruits and veggie to give your system a little time to cleanse.

But, fruits and veggies cleanse the system, doesn't that imply that other food toxify the system? And, when you stop the 'detox diet', surely the symptoms will return. One last point, 'fasting' means not eating, yet you ARE eating! You're eating fruits and vegetables!

[Gnostic279]

@GayVeganAtheist You are right on all accounts. I'm not sure what you are asking me. Do you want me to elaborate in more detail? Unless your name is a missleading joke then you already know all this.

[PrimalRhythm]

I have had inflammation in certain parts of my body for years. And I notice how some foods calm down the inflammation while others trigger it. I am amazed at how powerful food affects us. It is like taking drugs; some drugs help while others hurt.

[Quex01]

Body needs protein and healthy fats, more physical you get. Plants will never give you enough of those, period. Problem is that our store shelves are full of bio-chemically altered, poisonous, so called "food". It is almost impossible to avoid them. Thats is our main problem and source of most today's illnesses. Only solution is get your pure food directly from farmers, or grow it yourself. But that will become illegal soon. If we let it to happen.

[AngryNewAger]

@Quex01 I don't think protein is the issue. I think we've all been brainwashed by the dairy and meat industries: "You need lots of protein", etc. Every day, all around you, people die due to diseases that have been scientifically linked to meat: cancer, diabetes, heart attacks, stroke, hardening of the arteries, gout, etc. But I've never met anyone who has died from not enough protein! It just doens't happen. The more protein you eat, the shorter you live, accordig to one study.

[Gnostic279]

@AngryNewAger That would make since seeing how they all want us to die about the time we are no longer the most efficient producers on the assembly line. The body doesn't need all the protein they claim it does. They don't tell u that our body produces 2 of the essential proteins itself provided it recieves the other essential proteins. They manipulate the studies to sway the data however they wish.

[GayVeganAtheist]

@Quex01 Protein from animals is promoted as 'the best' by the meat industry. It's nonsense. I watched a 'nutritionist' recommend eating beef every day. The nutritionist worked for the Beef Association. Unbiased? I don't think so. There are amino aicds (the building blocks of protein) in virtually every food available. 

[GayVeganAtheist]

@Quex01 Lack of protein is virtually unheard of in the Western world. The only exception is people with eating disorders such as anorexics but they lack every nutrient. Not just protein.

[anf355]

@mrrrbt I used to train with good results but I was taking protein powders, a long time ago though but I think this aet me up for some problems I have today, I just train light, eat lots of germinated nuts and seed food, not going to bad though now, I have just started on the eggs again (B12) check out Sherif Kamal on Raw Vegan Radio, he speaks so much sense, if I had to start eat meat again it would be free range,anything else is scary. Hope never to eat flesh again though,eggs n cheese for B12

[ryanjames2007]

interesting video, Have you read the china study? do you have any thoughts on that?

[anf355]

To much protein in your diet turns your blood acidic, Your bones then start to release calcium to neutralize the blood, its debatable that this can lead to osteoporosis, the extra calcium in the blood then overloads the kidneys and can give you kidney stones or Ketosis.

Im Vego almost Vegan for 14 years but am not convinced this is the healthiest approach because there can be some issues unless you don't do it half assed like I did the first 10 years, im doing this because of cruelty.

[anf355]

@anf355 also these high protein diets I mentioned earlier may explain all the osteoporosis we see in society while everyone sits around sculling a pint of milk everyday day thinking its good for the bones. Ironic eh!

[FletcherHabit]

@anf355 May I inquire as to which issues you are referring?  The b12 thing is an obvious one but what else

[anf355]

@FletcherHabit yeah definitely the b12, also copper levels get high, this can in balance your your intestinal flora, long term effect of candida is a hard problem to reverse, this is from my experience and a lot of other ive read,my problems include, floaters in the eyes, melasma, fungal toes, chronic chest infections, ear infections, b12 can lead to nurological problems and also forgetful and scattered. Its a good feeling when you work out why its happening. just my personal experience.

[chiyerano]

Thanks to certain foods like quinoa and unrefined palm fruit oil and coconut oil, I find that I don't have to worry about getting enough good fat and protein in my plant based diet. For awhile now I've thought that a plant based diet would help with many of the inflammatory issues you mentioned.

[Silverstarlightt]

Mmmm Meat.

I tried going vegan, only lasted two days. Tried going vegetarian, only lasted 2 or 3 months. I like milk, eggs, fish, and ice cream too much to go vegan.

[Jiemusu89]

Age old argument here, but I watched the 'Earthlings' film a couple of weeks ago, feedback and sypnopsis being that it would "completely change the way you think about eating meat".

Personally, I think it's vegan propaganda. I eat meat because I'm an omnivore. The problem for me was the methods in how people prepare meat. There are people that simply enjoy being inhumanely cruel to animals. They could make meat in humane ways, but they simply choose not to, reasons financial or sadistical.

[DeansLILgirl]

I cant drink milk so i dont im almost vegan but i eat fish

[frozenbeans]

Thank you, seriously. rly appreaciated!

[SexyAlien2]

I'm always astonished to see how vegetarians/vegans are so aggressive about their beliefs.

Dr. Fritz, your video was respectful and very well done.

There's one thing I lightly disagree. Don't you think that the problem with milk isn't the milk itself but could be that the pasteurization process makes it inedible? I've read case of children being healed from asthma only by switching from a pasteurized to a raw source of milk.

[greob]

Suggestion to editor: add key words in the background, so that international learner may clearly identify what we're talking about, perhaps even a very very short explanation of what it is if dealing with specific vocabulary (eg. such as "Arachidonic acid", "hormones", "con side", "PMS", "Arthritis", "pesticides", "gluten", "soy" etc.) The talk will have much more impact, even among native speakers. Your call. ;)

[jerami101]

I used to be vegetarian and read a lot on the subject. I read an article about eskimos. A group of scientists studied the skeletons of more than 200 eskimos that died in more than a hundred years ago. There were no signs of arthirtis, gout or even tooth loss that would be expected from someone who died of old age. Basically, it's not meat. It's cooking the meat and all of the nice things they do to our food to package and sell it. I don't eat red meat and never will. But vegan? No way!

[chiyerano]

@jerami101 Yes, but how long did they live on average?

[phoboskitty]

I wonder if mushrooms are allowed in a vegan diet. they are neither plant nor animal, slime molds their cousins even move around and exhibit basic learning abilities...



[KezoZydis]

@phoboskitty lol

[phoboskitty]

the vegan comments are funny like somehow the science changes when you "live the vegan lifestyle" they just do not like what the nutritional sciences have been saying these days that you can live a healthy life style and still eat meat. Nutrition is a science and veganisim is an ideology, Ideologues just do not like the truth.

[KillCredit]

@phoboskitty

Veganism is not a ideology. Many people in this world are vegans and living very healthy. Many other mammals are also healthy vegans .Do not let a few preachy vegans ruin your image of the rest of us please.

[aleterra]

I like lamb :)

[aleterra]

chicken isn't vegan?! :)

[Pienvde]

Dr. Fritz gives very helpful info according to me. Especially about the difference between food allergies and food intolerance/sensitivity. I guess a lot of GP's aren't aware of that and only test your blood on certain allergies and don't look at the rest and blame it on irritable bowel syndrome.

[rainwilds]

What about Casein protein found in dairy and there being a statistically significant link between it and cancer as reported in The China Study by Colin Campbell. It is still the longest study of nutrtion in history!

[30KARMEN]

I have made recently carotenodermia my levels were 1700!can you please tell me if this can be a cause of loosing my period?

[30KARMEN]

I have made re

[crazyleg2006]

Your videos are always very informative and well delivered to me.

Thanks.

[marcluc1988]

Please. I beg you. Get a true vegan nutritionist to redo this video! Veganism is not a lot of work. It's easy.

One type of person that would benefit from a vegan diet is an ignorant nutritionist who hasn't got a clue what she's on about and might benefit from having some first-hand experience and getting to know the facts.

[marcluc1988]

@paulw61 In Europe, the grain industry is not subsidised on bit.

[marcluc1988]

Why not have a vegan nutritionist talking about this? Someone who follows the diet, knows the issues and isn't sitting 'outside looking in from a non-experienced' viewpoint?

I would bet my bottom Euro this lady is not even vegetarian, let alone vegan.

Please, let someone who knows their stuff talk about this and make sure they know the correct terminology and doesn't blab about non-vegetarian food.

[99sra]

@marcluc1988 Please can you answer me? What is the difference between vegetarian and vegan? I thought it's the same and just could tell the difference with raw. Thanks!

[marcluc1988]

@99sra A vegetarian doesn't eat any products that are the result of slaughter. A vegan does eat, wear or use ANY animal product. Ie No leather, wool, fur, no cosmetics that conatin animal ingredients or have been tested on animals.

[marcluc1988]

You say this is about veganism and vegetarianism and they talk about animal products. You also say, "When we can source our animals the way the way they were meant to be raised [...] but it's better for {...} animal rights reasons. Wrong! You don't know what 'animal rights' means. The expression in this case is 'animal WELFARE'. BIG difference.

[shiz1246]

It's really not hard to get "good protein". Surely as a nutritionist, you know that protein is everywhere! It's in grains, beans, vegetables, etc. In a varied diet, there are no amino acids that vegans are lacking in.

Also, why would a temporary vegan diet benefit patients with arthritis? Once they go back to eating their old diet, won't the problem come back? There is no temporary change that will yield permanent results....

[rainwilds]

@shiz1246 So called 'high quality protein' is a myth. High quality is equated as making an organism (like us) grow faster without taking into account the health of the system. Not once did she mention Casein from dairy which has been proven to promote cancer growth as reported in The China Study by Campbell.

[FunVegan]

Stop trying to make people think that veganism is some kind of diet that's not nutritious and you have to go and see a nutritionist and that it would be better to stick with carnism aka eating meat.

[heltfreek]

@FunVegan

Veganism is bad for you. Meat and fat are good for you .

[SteveHubbardGuitar]

@FunVegan u mad?

[marcluc1988]

Why do such pompous people make such a fuss about veganism when there are millions of kids fed of junk food every day?

[marcluc1988]

If you even tried to change me away from veganism, I'd walk out of your office straight away and file a complaint. Listen, I haven't had any animal products in my diet for 34 years and have didn't need some quack to tell me how to be healthy. I just ate a variety of vegan foods and that's it. It's not rocket science!

[marcluc1988]

First of all, if you only cut animal products from your diet (i.e. food), you're NOT vegan. Check out the OFFICIAL definition of veganism:

"Veganism is a way of living that seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing and any other purpose."

So, to call someone who only changes their diet is probably not vegan. They are following a plant-based diet.

[PrimalRhythm]

informative, helpful, and a calm presentation of the facts.

[menchiiscute1]

Love, Peace, and Vegan!

♥

[markangeloc]

Do you realize that we humans do not have the structure to consume flesh. Carnivours intestines are 3X the size of there torso meant to consume meat, humans are 10X the size, do not have the enzyme to digest animal protein, nor the teeth, the claws, the rough tongues, et. We are meant to eat only fruits and veggies by large amounts to sustain us. Food combining is critical to the sucess of a Vegan. I am a raw vegan and to me it is the healthies diet ever and the way we were designed to eat.

[dharmesha13]

@markangeloc sources? or its bs

[markangeloc]

@dharmesha13 Think what you want, I have nothing to prove to you. I am healthy, thriving eating a pure 100% low fat Raw Vegan diet. Sources are there, look them up,

[dharmesha13]

@markangeloc

congrats, I am healthy, thriving eating a pure 100% omnivorous diet. Sources are there that most people who live to to be 100 do in fact eat their food cooked, look them up

[markangeloc]

@dharmesha13 cooking food changes the molecular structure creates cancerous byproducts noted by the increase of cancer in our world. The people that live to be 100 and ate cooked foods had good genes and could eat rocks and live to be that age. The majority of the population right now is on some form of pharmecuetical, sick, fat or dying. The natural state of food is to be eaten raw, if you have to alter the state of the food you eat it shouldnt be eaten.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Again, sources?

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily Dr Doug Graham 80 10 10 diet, Hypocritis center,google raw food life, fruit diet, raw foods and enzymes. You tube doesnt allow links but I can gladly PM them to you. But do you want to know the best sources. Look around you at the fat, disease animal eating slobs that are before you. I stopped eating animal products onl eat fruits and veggies. I dropped down 40 pounds, am stronger, faster and leaner than ever oh did I mention healthier.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Well, I'm glad for you, but you also have to keep in mind one thing: it's more than just the meat that is contributing to obesity. It's the excess carbs (which scientists are actually now saying is contributing more to obesity than fat), and the unhealthy cuts of meat. And the fact that it's mostly red meats being consumed, as opposed to chicken or fish.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily You are misinformed. Humans need high carbs but real carbs as in fruits and veggies, ot the boxed up portion we see in grains, cereals, pasta or breads which are filled with high corn fructose syrup. Levulose is the energy source of fruit, fructose is man made. Scientists know nothing most are fat and ill. I lead by example, look at my physique and lifestyle. Chicken and fish are very unehalthy too. Watch Food Inc.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Again, your life story means nothing. Again, I was not talking specifically about the ones in fruits and veggies. Again, a scientists word greatly trumps your life story.

[markangeloc]

@dharmesha13 There are people that smoke cigarettes and live to 100, does this mean cigarete smoking is healthy? You see we justify our bad habbits, most people are missearble and use substances food being one of them to numb their pain, a time bomb waiting to explode is the best way to discribe humanity at this moment. Due to weather alterations we were forced to eat animal flesh, but it is not our normal diet. Fruits and veggies easy accessable, digestable, and fit for human consumption.

[dharmesha13]

@markangeloc sources? or its bs

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc May I ask where exactly you are getting your information from?

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily from years of research, from experts who have done the research, and a little common sense. Look at our anatomy and the anatomy of carnevours, do they look the same to you? Look around you at all the diseases we encounter from the foods we are eating. That should be proof enough for you. Read Dr. Doug Grahams 80 10 10 book.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

Taking your word for it isn't doing it for me. As for anatomy, we are also not anatomically similar to herbivores. Our teeth are made to consume both meat and plant matter, and our stomachs are smaller and more efficient than herbivore. Our average sleep cycle is such a length that indicates a predator, not a prey.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily dont take my word for it check out the links I sent you. Dr Graham explains The physiology and human make up. We are fruitavours and partially herbvores, not carnevours. Try catching your prey, skinning it with your bare hands and teeth, good luck trying, that would be the only way, not with weapons or store bought. A fruit however is ready available easy to pick and has all the nutrients in it we need.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Thank you for the links. I examined all but your video (again, you seem to be under the impression that your personal story is evidence. It is not), and found the following: The first link had no sources, and it was noted that the information was debatable, at best. For the book, I only glanced over the part about "human natural diet," and felt as if my eyes were bleeding from the misinformation. Most of his evidence is complete, unsupported bogus.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily my personal story speaks volume, as does my experience in the field. It may mean nothing to you, but I have not only changed my life, I have changed countless others. Believe what you may, it is your right. You are only 20 years old and have much to experience and learn in life, when you reach 46 look and feel as good as I, and have mastered the eating circus, then come talk to me. In the mean time all I see is wanna be know it all punk who respects no one but her self.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Aw, how cute, the older, "wiser" man is already getting into the personal insults because he can't come up with good evidence. Lol.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily I have sent you evidence, links from a Doctor, and other very intersting information. I have nothing to prove to you child, grow up and learn that science and the medical system doesnt always tell you the truth. Now run along and go play with your dolls and leave me alone. I have my beliefs and views, you don't have to agree with them.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc And I disproved your links. And, you also failed to disprove my earlier points. It is quite obvious that you are not well versed on the topic, and are only following along with what one book says.

Also, that was a really pathetic come back, not gonna lie.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily And how exactly did you dispprove the links? What earlier points the meat is not the only cause of obesity, of coarse it's not, high corn fructose syrup, milk, inacitivit are some of the many. However if people stopped eating the standard american diet, and would eliminate processed foods as well as animal products and eat fruits and veggies only, they would be healthier. a few comments on a video page hardly can show you my knowledge. Resorting to your childlike behavior

[markangeloc]

cont. I wasnt trying to make a comeback, so think of it as you wish. Look think what you want, eat what you want, I don't care. I am happy and healthy and that is all that matters to me. So try to have a nice life, and leave me alone already. Go away.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc U mad?

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily no sweetie, you don't have that power. I am just not into playing games, nor wasting my time.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily I did read it and it's all wrong, miss information with a capital M. We are fruitavours, and our teeth are not meant to eat meat, you would starve to death if you were to try to capture your prey, skin it with your tounge and tear the meat off with your tiny little teeth. If it werent for the grocery stores you wouldnt be digging into flesh. So wrong sweetie, very wrong. Your mouth should bleed from spreading lies.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc You don't even know how hard I'm laughing at you right now. Let me ask you something: what do you think we ate before agriculture was developed? And how did we get it?

Eating meat came far before any grocery stores, SWEETIE, and the idea that all meat eaters must "catch our prey and rip it to shreds with our teeth" is horribly wrong. Take a look at monkeys. Monkeys eat bugs, and use tools to get said bugs. We're closely related to monkeys. See the connection?

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily laugh all you want Crystal, we ate fruits from trees, greens, not meat. Eating meat require catching it. Monkey eat bugs, much different, they don't eat meat. Easier to catch a bug by pokcing a hole in the ground than chasing after a cow, skinnit it. There is no conection, far stretch.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc And "The first link had no sources, and it was noted that the information was debatable, at best. For the book, I only glanced over the part about "human natural diet," and felt as if my eyes were bleeding from the misinformation. Most of his evidence is complete, unsupported bogus."

I can go into more detail about the issues with the book, if you'd like. By the way, I was talking with others about our conversation, and someone wondered how much B12 you were getting?

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily you must bleed easy because the information is solid, it's not his information it is a collection of others work and well proven. I figured you out you are a mis indormation agent for the meat companies. As far as b12 why are americans deficient in b12 if they consume so much animal product. Everything is fortified with b12. Why so much osteosporosis with so much milk consumption, animal products create acidity in the blood hence body goes into bones to neutralize.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc LMFAO Like you said, I'm only 20: how the hell would I be a agent for the meat companies? Also, no, the section I mentioned from your bible had only one source. That's it. Nothing else.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily yes your only 20 and so what you can still be an agent, they hire gullable minds. I don't have a bible, don't believe in anything religously, I use my mind and heart to guide me. Dr. Graham has many sources, put on your glasses.

[markangeloc]

cont: B!2 is created by putrification process microorganisms. idealy found in water and soil. So B12 is created by microorganisms, and is (ideally) to be found in water and soil. It is also produced by bacteria in our intestines As long as gut bacteria have cobalt and certain other nutrients, they produce B12. In principle then, internal B12 synthesis could fulfill our needs without any B12 provided by diet.Animals and plants require cobalt in order to synthesize / produce B12.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily pt 3 I can ask you the same thing where do you get your b12. Most Americans are deficient in them. I know my nutrition is excellent. I digest and absorb my food since I properly combine my fruits and veggies and don't make my digestion work over time as those meat and grain eaters of the world. I would worry about yourself as should your friends whom I am sure are very unhealthy as most on the SAD diet.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Thanks for the copypasta. Here is my own copypasta, ironically also from a vegetarian/vegan friendly website: "Animals get their vitamin B12 from eating foods contaminated with vitamin B12 and then the animal becomes a source of vitamin B12. Plant foods do not contain vitamin B12 except when they are contaminated by microorganisms or have vitamin B12 added to them. Thus, vegans need to look to fortified foods or supplements to get vitamin B12 in their diet. "

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily and so, non vegans also fortify their diets with b12, all products have it, why would that be? I don't know what your bag is, eat meat, I don't care. I am not. so move on Crystal.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc Also, from a source that your person quoted: "Upon reflection, we should note that in a more primitive setting, human beings almost certainly would have obtained an abundance of vitamin B12 from the bacterial “contamination” of unwashed fresh fruits and vegetables—regardless of their intake of animal products. Human vitamin B12 deficiency is very unlikely to occur in such a setting...

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily not my person sweetie, you asked for references, I gave them to you, you have issues, big time issues. What is your bag girl. Meat is bad for you, but if you are such a vampire that needs it why do you need justification, go right ahead. microorganism produce b12 not meat, my point exactly, so what is your point, better yet, don't have one, just drop it already.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc "...Only very small amounts of dietary vitamin B12 are needed because our bodies do a fabulous job of recycling this essential nutrient. A person living in the ancestral environment regularly would have consumed fresh fruits and vegetables that were not consistently, fastidiously cleaned—as we routinely do today....

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

"...Our current unusual degree of hygiene is useful for combating many health threats—but may leave long-term, strict vegans vulnerable to the potential problem of vitamin B12 deficiency." So sorry, roll again.

Also, my B12 levels are fine, as I eat the foods that are most often quoted for having it.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily yea you eat the crap, processed shit, karma filled foods that suits your personality well. We are overly germ phobe, hence creating many problems You probably have never tested your b12 and wouldnt know what they are. Now run along child go play with someone else, I am bored with you

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily Wanted to add Crystal, so you would eat meat, make an animal suffer to get your b12 amounts, iliminate the middle man and the suffering, eat a little dirt with your veggies or take a b12 lozegen. Eating animal products causes acidity in your blood hence giving you osteosporosis, cancer and diabetis just to name a few of the illness eating what you claim is natural. Meat, dairy, eggs and poultry are poison, period.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc It's becoming very clear to me that you are not well educated in this field, and have instead resorted into petty insults to try and boost your ego. Frankly I think it would be wise for you to walk away from this argument. I would also recommend you pull your head out of your ass, but then again, that may be asking too much. If you would like to bring me some more substantial evidence, I'll be more than happy to resume this discussion with you. Otherwise, don't bother responding.

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily You again? I thought you finally decided to go away. I don't need to prove anything to you, nor do I care to. Continue with your childish games somewhere else, I have better things to do. You want evidence go find it yourself. In the mean time I am enjoying my health, the way I look being a low fat raw vegan, and feel darn good about what I am doing for the environment. You go right ahead and keep creating karma for yourself and be part of the dark vampires of the world. .

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc This isn't about health anymore, is it? I should have known that you would start scrambling for evidence in the "morals" department. To be honest, I'm sticking around because I'm curious to see how many more lulzy comments and bits of unsupported evidence you are going to throw at me. Needless to say, despite you being the older of the two of us, your childish insults are quite amusing. So go ahead and keep feeding me: I happen to enjoy being a vampire. <3

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily it's about both and they are interconnected. The health of our planet and everything in it affects our own health, it's called connectivity and caring for others beyond self. Say what you will, once again I have nothing to prove to you or anyone for that matter. I pitty you and the world you live in for you must resort to a behavior that is unnatural and dirty to attemp nurishment, I on the other hand eat pure and am a better person for it. I wish you well and goodbye.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc I'm not entirely sure why you keep spamming my inbox with videos that I have no interest in watching and have no relevance to our debate. My offer still stands, but you seem to insist on running with your tail between your legs. So, are you going to stay on topic, or have you finally run out of steam?

[markangeloc]

@CrystaltheWaterLily I have expressed myself enough and wasted too much of my time with you Crystal, the videos I sent you were to show you what true humans do, they grow their own food, they are amicable, trust worthy, loving and sincere, but I guess that is beyond your capacity. You are a waste of time, therefore I bid you fairwell and have a nice life. I hope you can see the errors of your ways and someday change.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@markangeloc LOL You obviously have never taken a social psychology course then. And showing me what "true humans do" had nothing to do with our initial discussion. Perhaps you seem to be confused about what relevant evidence is. If you are itching to cease communication with me so much, then stop replying. It's that simple.

[auggiedoggy]

@markangeloc : What is unnatural is when a human tries to become a herbivore. From your "discussions" with Crystal I can deduce that debate is futile as you don't have a basic understanding of the facts in terms of human evolutionary nutrition. What is evident is that you have been drinking the vegan Kool-Aid for far too long. I now return you to your vegan dream world ...

[markangeloc]

@auggiedoggy you are very wrong and I suggest you get your facts straight, you are the one with the lack of knowledge of human evolution and nutrition, do you have any degrees because I do. But I won't waste my breath on someone who has to harm another to feed themself. I am thriving as a raw vegan, as are many of my clients, I once ate the standard american diet and was ill with high blood pressure, stomach issues, now I am healthy and eat only fruits and veggies. Are you?

[auggiedoggy]

@markangeloc : You're a certified nutritional consultant? So what? You haven't studied Paleo-anthropology and Paleolithic nutrition, that much is obvious. Are you seriously trying to say that your CNC degree qualifies you to dispute the anthropologists who have the education and have spent their life's work studying human evolution? You are just one more nutburger dietary religionist that truly has no clue. Now I am definitely done with you. What a waste of time you are!

[markangeloc]

@auggiedoggy I have studied paleo anthropology and it's just a theory not gospil. I am saying that my experience, research, and knowledge has led me to my conclusion. You are the nutburger here not, I don't do religion nor take my eating habits as such. The clueless cucumber here is you, and your time is not worth more than mine. So stop with the games, and insults and grow up.

[markangeloc]

@auggiedoggy Are you aware of the reprocusions of eating animal products? By insulting me or other vegans it doesnt make the theory you believe in any more valid. The meat and dairy industry has done an excellent job in brain washing people, creating lies and placing this so call palelithic theor in the front line. One has to look at health results, no what some guy thinks is the way humans evolved. Give me some proof, not insults.

[kyleycoyote1]

good video. neutral....& good info for both sides

[buttaluv10]

I'm a new vegan and I must say that I at one time thought that it would be bad for humans to not eat any animal protein/meat but when you really think about it... 1)Our digestive system isn't made to properly digest animal meat(i.e. a carnivores intestinal tract is much shorter whereas herbivores have a MUCH longer intestinal tract which means the meat stays in our system longer) and 2)The biggest and strongest ANIMALS are herbivores (elephants,giraffes,hippos,COW­S,etc) and I don't see any...

[buttaluv10]

pt2...of them dying of "protein deficiency". I am very apprehensive of what MOST doctors have to say about nutrition because MOST have not had any education on NUTRITION...and the FDA is not very trustworthy or experts on it EITHER. They're the ones that said is okay to consume ASPARTAME and whatever other chemicals they want to through into food products...no thanks!

[markangeloc]

@buttaluv10 I agree with you 100% Doctors have no clue about nutrition and the FDA will say whatever the lobbyst pay them to say. We are on our own when it comes to nutrition/ Can't believe or trust nutritionists, doctors, FDA, et I only trust my own intuition.

[CrystaltheWaterLily]

@buttaluv10 "Our digestive system isn't made to properly digest animal meat"

Our digestive tract also isn't as long as a herbivores. We don't have large stomachs like herbivores do, and we have teeth to consume both types of foods. Our closest relative is an omnivore. Also, our sleep patterns indicate that of a predator, not a prey. While I don't think there is an issue with a vegetarian diet, it is incorrect to say that we can't eat meat.

[OMFGitsmaggie]

Go vegan and vegetarian people!

[heltfreek]

@OMFGitsmaggie

No I'd prefer to be healthy thanks very much.

[GooseHinson]

Hey, where is the hot nutrtitionist from 4 years ago? She was hot!

[TheAbStand]

Thanks for the info!! It's very informative and definitely makes you think about all the benefits of being a vegan!

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[IChoseTheRedPill]

it's something to seriously consider... big thumbs up...

[TomMarAlem1987]

Doesn't a strict vegetarian diet result in lack of energy and vigor, a sedentary life?

[nikamiw]

@TomMarAlem1987 Any diet can, but being a vegetarian/vegan doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean that you'll have no energy. :/ Actually, plants give way more energy than meat.

[MegaMoochie1]

Thank you for the info. I always thouht to be truly vegan didn't seem like the best way to eat.

[geesealyse]

Thank you so much for this video. It was very informative.

[TheSweetPerry]

Thank you for explaining everything so clearly :)

[Gaobdgao]

the longer you live the longer the suffering gonna be...short life span better life...

[Umbalafum]

@Gaobdgao yeah, short life - even better with arthritis, heart disease and breast cancer in your man boobs, caused by juicy hormones ;p 

[juanmora19910209]

I want to be a vegan..i tried it for a few months but with mishaps..& now im trying to go back. I just love being vegan even though its hard its worth it.

[mOOds999]

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