yeah. im gonna do it too. then im gonna take it to the next level. systema 2.0. i will teach people to stand like darth vader in front of you AND REALLY HAVE THE POWER !!!! go visit our website @ w w w . darth-vader-stance . com / "teaching-the-power"
Anyone who thinks that this is FAKE, should go to Toronto and work with V. Vasiliev. I did and it was truly amazing. Only $10 for the class. I learned so much from a talented, humble teacher. Many of the attacks are quite hidden and cannot be detected on the film. YOU MUST SEE THIS IS PERSON. Find a seminar nearby. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!
I know nothing about Martial arts but I did once take a glowing red hot knife from a 6'6" college football start who said he was going to brand me with it .. Had him begging for mercy in less than a few seconds ..Its all in the mind and reflexes.
@Burair101 it might have some possibility that Systema practitioners were acting if most of their videos didn't take place at a seminar, with a mediocre cameraman, but they do.
All you people knocking the Systema go and test Vladimir Vasiliey or Mihail Ryabko yourself and THEN talk about how its a scam. I think you will end up like everyone else did - bruised, confused, sore and on the floor.
0:37 - what about flip flops? and if they missed, a Systema practitioner is trained to resist discomforts such as the pavement. launching footwear is still not the best strategy for self-defense.
0:39 - the bill that was propelled at a high velocity hit him in the eye.
0:42 - because opponents aren't always fully conscious after special strikes.
0:56 - most of these clips take parts of the demonstrations out of context. That man sure does look like he's strolling in the park holding a knife out, but I can assure you that vladimir would be quick enough to do the same thing if he were actually lunging.
These techniques may be effective, but the problem I have with these videos is that there seems to be very little in the way of teaching going on. Uke is getting beaten up all over the place, but HOW exactly? What are the methods being taught. Slap, bam, boom...but what are you showing me?
Wow, all this BS on here! I like to look at it like a tool box. I just love to train and need tools. and I dont like to cross train so much that it waters down my skills. but the real word arts like Systema are awsome. also BJJ and THAI, mma are awsome. I need both. I cant push my finger in a training partners eye every day. Spot arts were made to safely train and I love to roll BJJ and thai box with pads to get good. but I train with guns, Knifes and fingers in the eyes also.
This art seems very practical for learning how to react properly to attacks from people with weapons from all angles, but I agree that it is not an art that one could use as there base for MMA competition. BUt a boxer or wrestler would be lost if they had to fight against someone with a bat, knife or gun, systema has the answer for this.
haircutdeluxe, i train in Open Circle Fighting System, Fighting Spirit Defence and i could easily gaurantee, systema is the real deal, doesnt matter if your a boxer mohammed im hard bruce mate you get hit in gb20, gb22, gb23 sp6, st 9,10,11, ht 1,2,3 you will go down any one of these will drop aman whether there a 13st heavy or a 20st wrestler. at least if you want to call something a scam i suggest you do some research first beforehand.......
Lol, what a loser. I would own YOU in 2 minutes. And any boxer that you know of. You are the typical white guy who gets abused and humiliated in front of his girlfriend. hhahahaha
Actually I am an idiot for posting a comment related to SimulacronX, because it will just encourage him posting his opinion ad nauseum on EVERY Systema Youtube comment section.
ya it's a systema used to counter all martial arts so i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter wht u cal it but the fact tht u use it against a martial art kinda gives it the name russian martial arts and if u don't believe me then read up on some russian history
Содрано все у Кадочникова и Лаврова, о самом Деде - ни слова, о легенде-подполковнике - ни слова. За державу обидно. Да ладно бы так преподавал, а то ведь Канадосы и Амверы за этот плагиат бабки большие платят. Вдвойне за Державу обидно!
Короче в системе меня всегда смущало одно: инструктор всегда движется значительно быстрее ученика и похоже только за счет этого побеждает. Очень хочется самому проверить таких инструкторов.
i know these people- and mark kerr is a fat useless idiot. the fact is- martial arts for the ring are near useless in real life combat. and no clue about fighting? how do you explain that russian special forces, combat veterans, bodygaurds and police officers use it? all the instructors i know of systema- came to systema from other styles (karate, jiu jitsu, judo, wing chun, etc.) they left those styles because they found systema. and those guys are rock solid athletes and fighters.
btw- why do i see your comments on EVERY systema video- you must honestly have NO LIFE whatsoever if you have nothing better to do then shit talk on systema videos. god damn- you are a loser, talking to you is like talking to a junkie- and if you knew anything about the real world- you would know how aggrivating it is to talk to a junkie.
the greatest fighter is fedor yemelyanenko. sorry- but you are not a martial artists at all, you are a troll- because no martial art teaches to disrespect other martial arts because the key to the fight is the fighter not the style. the only reason i call you names is because you refuse to succumb to logic, or produce your own, it is like talking to a junkie or a bible thumper with you. give me evidence equivalent to what i have given you (ie: taktarov, navy seals, spec ops, etc.) and ill stop.
also i would like to compare our experiences- i have done what you done (except for judo). i did wing chun for many years, i did BJJ for many years, i did Muay Thai, and i did TKD. when i discovered systema- i found this was the only martial art i needed. you have never tried systema and therefore at a disvantage when debating me because i have your experience + systema wheras you just have my experience - systema. and like i said- most peope in systema have thorough mma backgrounds- look up
martin wheeler, taktarov (you know already), or whoever- most systema instructors have thorough background in mma that they left because they found systema.
Haha, I don't disrespect martial arts, kid, I disrespect lies and bullshit. And I disrespect you, because you began to offend me. I have written enough. You seem a bit inscure though; cause all you do is diss me. That won't help.
Why should I kneel down before crap, lies and a scam? Systema is the best known scam in martial arts today. Sorry you got PUNKED, mate. I have a lot of arguments against Systema, don't you worry.
you are quite a disrespectful little punk, like i said- i'll stop throwing out names and have civil debate with you- but the only thing that comes out of your mouth is "systema is shit, mark kerr, immature, systema sucks". how about giving me some real evidence? even half of what i gave you would be sufficient, or maybe that is too much? sorry- but the ring does not work for real life- if you try ring shit, in real life, you WILL get killed. same goes for systema- but with S, u have btter chance
there is only one thing in the world that i can imagine would cause you to do nothing but troll on systema videos- and that is you got your ass kicked by someone who does systema. sorry to hear that, you really do need to find a better hobby then trolling on systema videos- because your comments are on EVERY systema video- that is quite pathetic.
@SimulacronX you have arguments against systema, i see, but you know just because you dont know it and you are jealous of people who do know it, there is no need to offend them, systema is about something diferent that what they show in these vids mate
i do Kickboxing for good number of years, and when systema people made exhibition, i signed up, i was one of few. Systema is awesome, it has many parts you have to combine, most of them are based on deadly precision and sped, you cant even hit systema guy and he will still somehow break your arm.
Well, who dont want to make money doing what they love? I have spared with Vlad and Michele, and prior to taliking shit you should go a round with a good Systema guy. of course Systema like Krav, and many other combat arts have some guys that dont train full time have Big shit locker Guts and think there bad after one 2 day class. but there are lots of full time Systema player that put there time on the mat and are good. the movements are fluid and relaxed, its like a soft style.
Go spar with Vladimir at the next available opportunity I will buy your ticket. Seriously I will Buy your plane ticket and the price of the seminar if I get to post the video..I will charge $1 for each person who wants to see you cry. I should make my money back in a week.
The Russian special opps are bad dudes, the Russian military is allowed to do things while training them that the US navy is not allowed to do. The chubby guy Michele commanded the badest unit of the Russian Special opps. They took out the Chechnya terrorists in a Moscow theater, look it up it made major news about 10 years ago. Hes also a political advisor for the government.
@tumpaijohn Nonetheless, I got a Systema dvd and wrote a review about it,if you are ready for it,I'd glad to send it to you.I had to throw the dvd away in anger, it's so bad, it's almost hilarious. Lots of esoterical drivel,which I cannot stand,sorry.
I totally understand. I have a couple of DVDs from them that I dont like either. I dont train Systema full time. I do BJJ and Thai boxing with a gung fu background. I feel that the concepts on the DVDs are meant for folks that have worked this stuff with an instructor prior. Some are very boring if you want to get some bad ass fighting tricks. But, the body movements are cool once you put them to work. I love the kick counters and use them often in MMA. Body awareness.
@tumpaijohn Ok, you seem real, and you seem to know what you're talking about. But if you do Thai boxing and BJJ, what else do you need? You should be a very happy man.
I started out 12 years ago with Tumpai KAJUKENBO. The breathing exercises and some of the movements from Systema were worked in nicely. There is also some cool ground work in some systema circles because lots of the Sambo guys train both. I always loved grappling (all kinds) Thai boxing is great to.
But there is a large learning curve when you can really command timing movement and critical distance to control your opponent. The internal styles like Tumpai and Systema offer that. But the curve is huge and takes time. Thats why I like Thai boxing you can get good fast and some of the internal arts dont spend enough time on drilling and hard sparring.
You have to actually train in the system. You have no real concept of it until you learn the fundamentals and began training for real. Besides you probably got a crappy DVD. I can recommend a few for you. Beating the Odds, Gunpoint Supremacy, Systema striking.
@R396 Systema looks like a scam to me. And I had the Systema strikes dvd, which is utter crap, sorry to say. I feel like Riabko and Vassiliev just want to get your money. I can send you the review I wrote for the dvd.
Its not a game. Its real fighting the way you find it in the streets. Taekwon do is fighting in a form. Systema is to the point and you have freedom to defend any way even in the genitalia.
@asl3180 Systema is a scam to me. If you want to defend yourself on the street, I recommend Jiu-Jitsu and boxing, or Muay Thai (Thai boxing). Thay boxing uses elbows and knees too, deadly weapons. Wing Chun has some nice techniques too.One of the kings of reality fighting is Bas Rutten, check him out.
@SimulacronX because the martial art the fucking spetsnaz use is a scam.
Thing is, systema doesn't work from a set kata so it just looks like random punches or some flailing and that's kind of one of its strong points, it's just a basic knowledge of joint manipulation, skill at evading/retaliating and a great for building up stamina and strength which makes it VERY versatile and applicable in even the most obscure situations.
@asl3180 Guys like Vlad might know how to fight but the biggest problem in systema is that there is no ranking to be a teacher or not. You have to be real careful when going for lessons that you aren't being taught random bullshit by some guy who took 6 months of Systema combined with some random martial art and claims to be the next Bruce Lee. Just my opinion tho.
that operation was a failure because the gas they used to subdue the terrorist killed a lot of the hostages........ whats the point of attempting a hostage rescue if you kill the hostages in the process?
Because the alternative was a bomb went off that would of leveled the entire Theatre block, The rescue was a resounding success, what wasn't was the fact that information of what Gas was used was not provided meaning that Emergency Services could not treat the affected as easily, and that Emergency Services left people with their heads back, Resulting in many choking on their tongues, Otherwise it was brilliantly carried out (Not other CTs ever really face similar challenges)
There is no need for insults, i do hope the people mature enough for a constructive debate are also mature enough to undestand that. On the topic - I have not experienced systema to support it or not. But I doubt the fact that something used in spec ops is ineffective. Whether its the thing being spread to public is another question.
SimulacronX has its own opinion, and his opinion is that Systema is bull. (he posts this opinion everywhere here on Youtube) Anyway, that is fine. However, most of us don't go some other martial art Youtube comment section and put: "this is a scam, this is shit, blabla" So SimulacronX, even you have your own opinion, I don't see why you always want to post such posts? If its really such a scam, why bother? Its getting really a bit tired now.
I guess the idea is more to distract him from the coming punch - and throwing anything, like a lighter, a pack of cigarettes, etc would do it. It's taught in Krav too and I think most self defense system. And actually, if you get the eyes, the hat in itself might be quite incapacitating.
its effective. one time when i started practicing systema, i accidently broke my friends arm. its powerful stuff. its not present moves its more a freestyle fighting form.
i know systema. any muay thai or mma tough guy wanna try me? krav magra is rubbish. ive met vladimir in person. i tried everything in my power to hit him. he evaded me effortlessly. he did one counter and i went flying 5 feet. americans have a hard time accepting it because our martial arts are so sports based. muay thai has a couple of good moves but its still very sporty. alot of people think its fake because its demonstrated slowly. i saw vladimir do it fast one and the guy went flying.
Krav Maga is battle tested so you're comment is rubbish... I know systema as well just as muay thai, BJJ they all have things you can use. I can't say what's the best, but I can say they all have usefull stuff in am. Krav Maga is the most allround of all of them that's for sure!
Systema is not a proprietary name and truth seekers will find the right source regardless how many greedy wannabes try to jump on this train. Who had a privilege of proper introduction to Systema will never let it go and will recognize a counterfeit in a heartbeat.
Mr. Starov now sells his version of Systema. Not long ago it was his version of Russian Style developed by prof. Kadochnikov.
Lack of skills is astounding. Greed and ambitions are overwhelming.
Ok let me explain this so there is no confusion. What works in MMA is what works against a resisting opponent who fights back. Those so called deadly moves that are illegal in UFC usually dont work when the attacker is fighting back. Now Im not criticizing Mr. Vasiliev by any means cause I think he is legit and a great martial artist. However if you have seen Vadim Starov vs Muay Thai fighter you would see that his systema is complete garabage. Just cause its military dont mean its good.
i think you are wrong i only did one lesson of systema and i saw some people who were really good at it. These people show me the true power of systema, it is not about the deadly move but mainly about breathing and using your instinc to fight an opponent. Maybe some muay thai freak could possibly beat up Vasiliev in a ring but i think the same guy would be torn apart in a street fight thats why there is no systema competition....only ends when one of the two is uneable to fight.
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ok, you hae a point... but you gotta walk before you run. so if you can take this to the ufc, maybe then you'll get some respect in the real world of combat
This isn't a martial art, therefore it cannot be in the UFC. All of these moves involve something illegal in MMA. Most of it is like breaking of body parts or hitting soft spots (neck, shoulder, even crotch). All illegal in UFC. UFC is a sport, systema is real combat used for Military purposes. Muy thai and jujitsu are great and all but not as realistic.
I agree. If something evolved in REAL military combat then only what worked remained, and what didn't was cut out. But it didn't evolve in a "cage" where people aren't trying to kill each other, but a war zone where people ARE trying to kill each other in ever more efficient ways!
The proof is in the pudding... ex-military people who have tried it in REAL combat situations... it is THOSE people I trust.
Some office worker instructor teaching Ju Jitsu? Forget it!
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100% agree with you werewoolf82, ive been involved in Martial Arts for over 28 years, and most of these guys are just offering the same stuff in a different package, at the end of the day its all "KARATE"
The distance between Karate and Systema is, well, QUITE GAPING. You guys clearly don't know what Systema is. There are no pre-set techniques in Systema, it is relaxation, breathing, posture, movement, etc. By that, I mean the body is free to respond to a threat any way it finds (it's not an art where you try to execute moves and techniques, hard to explain). Search here on YouTube for some training sessions; "perten" has some great videos showing in class training. Vlad is the REAL DEAL. :)
man no its not. dude. i have do systema and i have fought guys who do karate and TKD. its a humongous difference. practice in it and do ur research u will see wut i mean.
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well I have not noticed anything new in this system that would differ it from other, so to speak traditional martial arts schools.. same movements, same "tricks"...
The next time someone tries to attack me with a knife, I will throw him my hat.
Mortadelunga 2 weeks ago
I don't think that hat throwing hurts that much, but the rest was pretty cool.
krazykalash 2 weeks ago
@krazykalash the hat throwing is a distraction technique....
cplproductions 1 week ago
@cplproductions The guy in the video isn't distracted, he nearly passed out -.-
krazykalash 1 week ago
0:39 "Oh no he just thre his cap on me so strong I'm falling down!" Bullshido.
Zacha11 3 weeks ago
Chuck Norris created his girly martial art by the time Bud Spencer was an expert in Systema.
UrFriscoAndNonelses 2 months ago
Sigh.
PutYourHeadOut 2 months ago
yeah. im gonna do it too. then im gonna take it to the next level. systema 2.0. i will teach people to stand like darth vader in front of you AND REALLY HAVE THE POWER !!!! go visit our website @ w w w . darth-vader-stance . com / "teaching-the-power"
Got5on 2 months ago
Anyone who thinks that this is FAKE, should go to Toronto and work with V. Vasiliev. I did and it was truly amazing. Only $10 for the class. I learned so much from a talented, humble teacher. Many of the attacks are quite hidden and cannot be detected on the film. YOU MUST SEE THIS IS PERSON. Find a seminar nearby. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!
scgdavis 2 months ago
beyond fake
ennot 2 months ago
I wonder how this would work against a real attacker who is really committing to the attack and not giving up immediately upon contact
rockstarr469 2 months ago
this is what spetsnaz uses
threehourshower 3 months ago
if only they moved that slow
TheRicher14 3 months ago
еблан полный
ciklonb10cm 4 months ago
Get a strike then write on here about it
Yes I know that you will say the same as most of us it's power full
So stop moaning then
eapc44 7 months ago
It works and you don't see all the power from his strikes
Go try it out then see what you think
It's the whole package
Trained for a while yes very different but
Very effective
Rich
eapc44 7 months ago
if your hat is kevlar or nomex you can grab the knife with it, gloves work too....kinda tricky
aersixb9 7 months ago
spetsnaz owns the hell out of these guys
Thorriox 7 months ago
really wanna see him disarm a knife like that.. he would get cut to pieces..
mayzboy 8 months ago
да он самбист просто, а в систему бабло стричь пошел
airpower9 9 months ago
damn the man is fast , my hat is off.
CombatKing255 10 months ago
And this is why the Marines get owned by the Spetsnaz.
Ridiciliculous 10 months ago 39
@Ridiciliculous
the marines get owned by no one !
912tennis 3 months ago
@912tennis Except for the Spetsnaz.
Ridiciliculous 3 months ago
@912tennis of everybody practicly ,fat lazzy niggers cant be good warriors
SlavaSvarogu 2 months ago
All of you armchair thugs and nonbeleivers check out Vladimir Vasiliev and Mykhail Ryabko's systema vids out there,
I rest my case, bunch of batiboys
robberyrob 10 months ago 2
Ой обоссусь,чувака просто не пиздили в подворотне
Fishkiller58 11 months ago
Por que essa "veia"aparece ai, eh a mae de quem?
DylanRicardo 1 year ago
It's actually really funny! I'm still laughing hard, mate! 5 stars! Keep on showing them the difference between real men and themselves!
hifffe 1 year ago
I know nothing about Martial arts but I did once take a glowing red hot knife from a 6'6" college football start who said he was going to brand me with it .. Had him begging for mercy in less than a few seconds ..Its all in the mind and reflexes.
pyyktodd 1 year ago
@pyyktodd Reflexes/reacting is the basis behind Systema :D
Isosyth 1 year ago
@Isosyth reacting is the basis behind all acting
Burair101 7 months ago
@Burair101 it might have some possibility that Systema practitioners were acting if most of their videos didn't take place at a seminar, with a mediocre cameraman, but they do.
TheNickhis 6 months ago
my fave is the 4 hits in 2 seconds lol
captpinchcard 1 year ago
All you people knocking the Systema go and test Vladimir Vasiliey or Mihail Ryabko yourself and THEN talk about how its a scam. I think you will end up like everyone else did - bruised, confused, sore and on the floor.
Spetsnazovets 1 year ago
i dont want to meet this guy on the street :D
DonHofUrs 1 year ago 2
did he have to stick the fake knife in the guys eye? jeez..
if someone is gonna try and stab you, they dont walk into you, and you dont sidestep like that.
anybody can do it in slowmotion, i want to see him try it with someone who is really trying, and at real speed.
then again, he probably wouldnt sell many DVD's.. cause he'd be in the hospital.
visualkei72 1 year ago
@visualkei72
um, you have truly no idea what you are talking about.
they are happy to have you test it out.
just go to a seminar, go and voice some skepticism about this stuff.
they will be happy to show you.
but you might work with a couple of his teaching staff before you do, so you know what you are in for.
I did. This stuff works super well, it's just not what you want it to look like.
new stuff is often like that...
richardshapiroII 1 year ago 13
@richardshapiroII
ok here's a few questions for you. since you say you can answer some.
0:05 - who tries to stab someone while sitting on the ground?
0:37 - people walk around with loose shoes, anticipate possibly missing, then are in their socks on pavement?
0:39 - yes, baseball hats do serious damage, lethal weapons.
0:42 - why hasn't he been stabbed in the liver yet?
0:56 - if someone wants to cut you, they don't lunge like they're strolling in the park.
the grappling is good though.
visualkei72 1 year ago
@visualkei72 yeah, it's not real fighting is it? that's because they're demonstrations.
0:05 - he wasn't originally on the ground.
0:37 - what about flip flops? and if they missed, a Systema practitioner is trained to resist discomforts such as the pavement. launching footwear is still not the best strategy for self-defense.
0:39 - the bill that was propelled at a high velocity hit him in the eye.
0:42 - because opponents aren't always fully conscious after special strikes.
TheNickhis 6 months ago
cont'd
0:56 - most of these clips take parts of the demonstrations out of context. That man sure does look like he's strolling in the park holding a knife out, but I can assure you that vladimir would be quick enough to do the same thing if he were actually lunging.
TheNickhis 6 months ago
These techniques may be effective, but the problem I have with these videos is that there seems to be very little in the way of teaching going on. Uke is getting beaten up all over the place, but HOW exactly? What are the methods being taught. Slap, bam, boom...but what are you showing me?
Alfredkickedcock 1 year ago
Give me a break....the guy with the knife doesn't even swing it, of course it looks impressive. ....this is BS (bullshit).
ShawnShaffer 1 year ago
what the hell... Did he throw one of his shoe against the attacker at 0.38?
ParkFight 1 year ago
what is with all the interspersed freeze frames??
jonoderidder 2 years ago 3
this is crazy...i hope i never meet these guys in a dark alley, i don't wanna get die.
myguitardidyermom12 2 years ago
Wow, all this BS on here! I like to look at it like a tool box. I just love to train and need tools. and I dont like to cross train so much that it waters down my skills. but the real word arts like Systema are awsome. also BJJ and THAI, mma are awsome. I need both. I cant push my finger in a training partners eye every day. Spot arts were made to safely train and I love to roll BJJ and thai box with pads to get good. but I train with guns, Knifes and fingers in the eyes also.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
This art seems very practical for learning how to react properly to attacks from people with weapons from all angles, but I agree that it is not an art that one could use as there base for MMA competition. BUt a boxer or wrestler would be lost if they had to fight against someone with a bat, knife or gun, systema has the answer for this.
Asmodai2011 2 years ago
try OCFM or russell stutely, systema is extremely similar but this has all come from the UK! type it in and watch the similarities!
kaimccy 2 years ago
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Your martial art is fraudulent, and you should go to jail for taking people's money. Any boxer or wrestler would own you inside 2 minutes.
Idiots.
haircutdeluxe 2 years ago
Yeah, I guess that's why the russian Spetznaz use it, you should tell them to move to boxing or something.
Goshka 2 years ago 2
haircutdeluxe, i train in Open Circle Fighting System, Fighting Spirit Defence and i could easily gaurantee, systema is the real deal, doesnt matter if your a boxer mohammed im hard bruce mate you get hit in gb20, gb22, gb23 sp6, st 9,10,11, ht 1,2,3 you will go down any one of these will drop aman whether there a 13st heavy or a 20st wrestler. at least if you want to call something a scam i suggest you do some research first beforehand.......
kaimccy 2 years ago
Lol, what a loser. I would own YOU in 2 minutes. And any boxer that you know of. You are the typical white guy who gets abused and humiliated in front of his girlfriend. hhahahaha
83carb350 2 years ago
Actually I am an idiot for posting a comment related to SimulacronX, because it will just encourage him posting his opinion ad nauseum on EVERY Systema Youtube comment section.
Kalecommando 2 years ago
its funny you say that- most systema instructors say "systema is NOT a martial art- it is modern combatives military science".
XIPM3 2 years ago
That poor guy with the black jacket.
novice8814 2 years ago 3
ya it's a systema used to counter all martial arts so i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter wht u cal it but the fact tht u use it against a martial art kinda gives it the name russian martial arts and if u don't believe me then read up on some russian history
RhythmDrummer 2 years ago
Well check your definition of Martial art. Art de la guerre, je pensais que c'etait clair.
MelodiousThonk 2 years ago
define martial art
denisbetsi 2 years ago
of course it special work to create this martial system with using knowns martial arts
klas2222Joey 2 years ago
Содрано все у Кадочникова и Лаврова, о самом Деде - ни слова, о легенде-подполковнике - ни слова. За державу обидно. Да ладно бы так преподавал, а то ведь Канадосы и Амверы за этот плагиат бабки большие платят. Вдвойне за Державу обидно!
fedorov2002 2 years ago
Короче в системе меня всегда смущало одно: инструктор всегда движется значительно быстрее ученика и похоже только за счет этого побеждает. Очень хочется самому проверить таких инструкторов.
SmilingRoger 2 years ago
Ridiculous
SimulacronX 2 years ago
you again! you have no life whatsoever!
XIPM3 2 years ago
Thank you. Instead of just insulting me every time, you'd better show me some more concrete stuff about Systema.
Because all I see is odd pseudo-defense moves.
I think Systema is for people who have no clue about fighting.
Fighting is also about pain, strength, and hard training, look for Mark Kerr, Bas Rutten, the Gracies.
Ryabko and Vasiliev are KIDDING you man.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
i know these people- and mark kerr is a fat useless idiot. the fact is- martial arts for the ring are near useless in real life combat. and no clue about fighting? how do you explain that russian special forces, combat veterans, bodygaurds and police officers use it? all the instructors i know of systema- came to systema from other styles (karate, jiu jitsu, judo, wing chun, etc.) they left those styles because they found systema. and those guys are rock solid athletes and fighters.
XIPM3 2 years ago
btw- why do i see your comments on EVERY systema video- you must honestly have NO LIFE whatsoever if you have nothing better to do then shit talk on systema videos. god damn- you are a loser, talking to you is like talking to a junkie- and if you knew anything about the real world- you would know how aggrivating it is to talk to a junkie.
XIPM3 2 years ago 2
Now you have to stop, kid. You don't have the right to call me whatever names.
You show a VERY immature behaviour.
You CANNOT be real. You only try to attack me, you offend me, this only shows your real personality.
You have NO CLUE about the greatest fighters.
Systema is RIDICULOUS, dude, you calling me names won't change it, ok? I know it's hard, but you'll get over it.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
the greatest fighter is fedor yemelyanenko. sorry- but you are not a martial artists at all, you are a troll- because no martial art teaches to disrespect other martial arts because the key to the fight is the fighter not the style. the only reason i call you names is because you refuse to succumb to logic, or produce your own, it is like talking to a junkie or a bible thumper with you. give me evidence equivalent to what i have given you (ie: taktarov, navy seals, spec ops, etc.) and ill stop.
XIPM3 2 years ago 2
also i would like to compare our experiences- i have done what you done (except for judo). i did wing chun for many years, i did BJJ for many years, i did Muay Thai, and i did TKD. when i discovered systema- i found this was the only martial art i needed. you have never tried systema and therefore at a disvantage when debating me because i have your experience + systema wheras you just have my experience - systema. and like i said- most peope in systema have thorough mma backgrounds- look up
XIPM3 2 years ago 2
martin wheeler, taktarov (you know already), or whoever- most systema instructors have thorough background in mma that they left because they found systema.
XIPM3 2 years ago 3
Haha, I don't disrespect martial arts, kid, I disrespect lies and bullshit. And I disrespect you, because you began to offend me. I have written enough. You seem a bit inscure though; cause all you do is diss me. That won't help.
Why should I kneel down before crap, lies and a scam? Systema is the best known scam in martial arts today. Sorry you got PUNKED, mate. I have a lot of arguments against Systema, don't you worry.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
you are quite a disrespectful little punk, like i said- i'll stop throwing out names and have civil debate with you- but the only thing that comes out of your mouth is "systema is shit, mark kerr, immature, systema sucks". how about giving me some real evidence? even half of what i gave you would be sufficient, or maybe that is too much? sorry- but the ring does not work for real life- if you try ring shit, in real life, you WILL get killed. same goes for systema- but with S, u have btter chance
XIPM3 2 years ago
there is only one thing in the world that i can imagine would cause you to do nothing but troll on systema videos- and that is you got your ass kicked by someone who does systema. sorry to hear that, you really do need to find a better hobby then trolling on systema videos- because your comments are on EVERY systema video- that is quite pathetic.
XIPM3 2 years ago
okay, fight this guy, and win the fight, get it filmed, put it on youtube, then maybe ill believe that you can consider being a martial artist
Lenercopa 2 years ago 2
Lenercope, it doesn't matter if I'm a fighter or not.
"Systema" speaks for itself.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
yeah, it speaks that it fuckin kicks ass
Lenercopa 2 years ago
Why don't you come out to Vlad's school one day and experience it...
adamali77 2 years ago
Sorry, not necessary. I see,hear, know enough. It is not difficult to recognize the non-sense, come on.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
@SimulacronX you have arguments against systema, i see, but you know just because you dont know it and you are jealous of people who do know it, there is no need to offend them, systema is about something diferent that what they show in these vids mate
Harky88 2 years ago
@Harky88 Oh now I'm jealous, huh?
Haha...
Offend them? I don't care, it is a SCAM dude, they just want so suck your money. Open your eyes, practice fighting, you will see.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
i do Kickboxing for good number of years, and when systema people made exhibition, i signed up, i was one of few. Systema is awesome, it has many parts you have to combine, most of them are based on deadly precision and sped, you cant even hit systema guy and he will still somehow break your arm.
Harky88 2 years ago
Well have fun then.
I only trust people like Bas Rutten now.
He's my hero in martial arts in fact.
He is real. A rare gem.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
Well, who dont want to make money doing what they love? I have spared with Vlad and Michele, and prior to taliking shit you should go a round with a good Systema guy. of course Systema like Krav, and many other combat arts have some guys that dont train full time have Big shit locker Guts and think there bad after one 2 day class. but there are lots of full time Systema player that put there time on the mat and are good. the movements are fluid and relaxed, its like a soft style.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
@tumpaijohn ...too soft, if you ask me.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
Go spar with Vladimir at the next available opportunity I will buy your ticket. Seriously I will Buy your plane ticket and the price of the seminar if I get to post the video..I will charge $1 for each person who wants to see you cry. I should make my money back in a week.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
The Russian special opps are bad dudes, the Russian military is allowed to do things while training them that the US navy is not allowed to do. The chubby guy Michele commanded the badest unit of the Russian Special opps. They took out the Chechnya terrorists in a Moscow theater, look it up it made major news about 10 years ago. Hes also a political advisor for the government.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
@tumpaijohn Nonetheless, I got a Systema dvd and wrote a review about it,if you are ready for it,I'd glad to send it to you.I had to throw the dvd away in anger, it's so bad, it's almost hilarious. Lots of esoterical drivel,which I cannot stand,sorry.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
I totally understand. I have a couple of DVDs from them that I dont like either. I dont train Systema full time. I do BJJ and Thai boxing with a gung fu background. I feel that the concepts on the DVDs are meant for folks that have worked this stuff with an instructor prior. Some are very boring if you want to get some bad ass fighting tricks. But, the body movements are cool once you put them to work. I love the kick counters and use them often in MMA. Body awareness.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
@tumpaijohn Ok, you seem real, and you seem to know what you're talking about. But if you do Thai boxing and BJJ, what else do you need? You should be a very happy man.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
I started out 12 years ago with Tumpai KAJUKENBO. The breathing exercises and some of the movements from Systema were worked in nicely. There is also some cool ground work in some systema circles because lots of the Sambo guys train both. I always loved grappling (all kinds) Thai boxing is great to.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
But there is a large learning curve when you can really command timing movement and critical distance to control your opponent. The internal styles like Tumpai and Systema offer that. But the curve is huge and takes time. Thats why I like Thai boxing you can get good fast and some of the internal arts dont spend enough time on drilling and hard sparring.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
Oh yes and I am a happy man, I get to talk Martial arts at work.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
You have to actually train in the system. You have no real concept of it until you learn the fundamentals and began training for real. Besides you probably got a crappy DVD. I can recommend a few for you. Beating the Odds, Gunpoint Supremacy, Systema striking.
R396 2 years ago
@R396 Systema looks like a scam to me. And I had the Systema strikes dvd, which is utter crap, sorry to say. I feel like Riabko and Vassiliev just want to get your money. I can send you the review I wrote for the dvd.
SimulacronX 2 years ago
i've been training with vasiliev for a little over a year now. it's not a scap, just try it...
RodionP 1 year ago
Its not a game. Its real fighting the way you find it in the streets. Taekwon do is fighting in a form. Systema is to the point and you have freedom to defend any way even in the genitalia.
asl3180 1 year ago
@asl3180 Systema is a scam to me. If you want to defend yourself on the street, I recommend Jiu-Jitsu and boxing, or Muay Thai (Thai boxing). Thay boxing uses elbows and knees too, deadly weapons. Wing Chun has some nice techniques too.One of the kings of reality fighting is Bas Rutten, check him out.
SimulacronX 1 year ago
@SimulacronX because the martial art the fucking spetsnaz use is a scam.
Thing is, systema doesn't work from a set kata so it just looks like random punches or some flailing and that's kind of one of its strong points, it's just a basic knowledge of joint manipulation, skill at evading/retaliating and a great for building up stamina and strength which makes it VERY versatile and applicable in even the most obscure situations.
zomgerln 1 year ago 3
@zomgerln
Plus, from what i know, it's MADE to not look like anything, more so to make your opponent underestimate you
Madsovic999 1 year ago
@asl3180 Guys like Vlad might know how to fight but the biggest problem in systema is that there is no ranking to be a teacher or not. You have to be real careful when going for lessons that you aren't being taught random bullshit by some guy who took 6 months of Systema combined with some random martial art and claims to be the next Bruce Lee. Just my opinion tho.
jackarf1 1 year ago
that operation was a failure because the gas they used to subdue the terrorist killed a lot of the hostages........ whats the point of attempting a hostage rescue if you kill the hostages in the process?
akaNadik 1 year ago
@akaNadik
Because the alternative was a bomb went off that would of leveled the entire Theatre block, The rescue was a resounding success, what wasn't was the fact that information of what Gas was used was not provided meaning that Emergency Services could not treat the affected as easily, and that Emergency Services left people with their heads back, Resulting in many choking on their tongues, Otherwise it was brilliantly carried out (Not other CTs ever really face similar challenges)
DasVivo 1 year ago
Soft styles are misunderstood. There soft for the practitioner not your face buddy.
tumpaijohn 2 years ago
There is no need for insults, i do hope the people mature enough for a constructive debate are also mature enough to undestand that. On the topic - I have not experienced systema to support it or not. But I doubt the fact that something used in spec ops is ineffective. Whether its the thing being spread to public is another question.
CatzLV 2 years ago
SimulacronX has its own opinion, and his opinion is that Systema is bull. (he posts this opinion everywhere here on Youtube) Anyway, that is fine. However, most of us don't go some other martial art Youtube comment section and put: "this is a scam, this is shit, blabla" So SimulacronX, even you have your own opinion, I don't see why you always want to post such posts? If its really such a scam, why bother? Its getting really a bit tired now.
Kalecommando 2 years ago
I was there yesterday for the first time and my entire body is sore, Great martial art, Practical and useful
mahmoodakbarshamshir 2 years ago 3
This sistem is stolen from Mr.Kadochnikov and Mr. Lavrov. Has been created and approved by USSR Governement in 60-th like Russian Combat Sistem
fedorov2002 2 years ago
I thought Vladimir was Ryabko's student, with no ties to Kadochnikov...
4strokes4ever 2 years ago
lol, some of that looks good, but throwing you hat at someone? i dont think id bother with that one
jxcream 2 years ago
I guess the idea is more to distract him from the coming punch - and throwing anything, like a lighter, a pack of cigarettes, etc would do it. It's taught in Krav too and I think most self defense system. And actually, if you get the eyes, the hat in itself might be quite incapacitating.
mouche621621 2 years ago 5
Systema looks interesting :)
earlybirds1 2 years ago 3
like it.. it s my understanding:)
mmabjjwt1975 2 years ago 2
its effective. one time when i started practicing systema, i accidently broke my friends arm. its powerful stuff. its not present moves its more a freestyle fighting form.
christiankoll 2 years ago 2
yeah but accidentally breaking your friend's arm is the powerful stuff we all need to know how to control so we dont become psycho!!!!!
udonodalents 2 years ago 3
.... how'd your instructor react to that one?
cheapraymond 2 years ago
i know systema. any muay thai or mma tough guy wanna try me? krav magra is rubbish. ive met vladimir in person. i tried everything in my power to hit him. he evaded me effortlessly. he did one counter and i went flying 5 feet. americans have a hard time accepting it because our martial arts are so sports based. muay thai has a couple of good moves but its still very sporty. alot of people think its fake because its demonstrated slowly. i saw vladimir do it fast one and the guy went flying.
christiankoll 2 years ago
That's pretty tough talk. Where do you train and with whom?
BuddhaViolations 2 years ago
Krav Maga is battle tested so you're comment is rubbish... I know systema as well just as muay thai, BJJ they all have things you can use. I can't say what's the best, but I can say they all have usefull stuff in am. Krav Maga is the most allround of all of them that's for sure!
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mouche621621 2 years ago
I don't know much about martial arts but i know i love the systema stuff, not flashy, just pure self defense and taking someone down asap! genius
MrDubba85 3 years ago 2
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fuck this it sucks krav maga is the baddest martial art in the planet ,any krav maga practicioner coul take any styema period
Ibalon2012 3 years ago
Next time your parents will let you use computer do yourself a favor:
1. Clean up your favorite list to look semi intelligent
2. Learn to use spell and grammar button
3. Stay out of subjects beyond your grade level
KamaZsUtra 3 years ago 9
russia is a much more battle hardened nation then israel. also- russian cossacks were pummeling jewish communities for centuries before 1917.
XIPM3 2 years ago
Systema is not a proprietary name and truth seekers will find the right source regardless how many greedy wannabes try to jump on this train. Who had a privilege of proper introduction to Systema will never let it go and will recognize a counterfeit in a heartbeat.
Mr. Starov now sells his version of Systema. Not long ago it was his version of Russian Style developed by prof. Kadochnikov.
Lack of skills is astounding. Greed and ambitions are overwhelming.
KamaZsUtra 3 years ago 2
So is Vladimir Vasiliev the real deal or not?
jacko821 2 years ago 4
he is
BonAquak 2 years ago 2
Ok let me explain this so there is no confusion. What works in MMA is what works against a resisting opponent who fights back. Those so called deadly moves that are illegal in UFC usually dont work when the attacker is fighting back. Now Im not criticizing Mr. Vasiliev by any means cause I think he is legit and a great martial artist. However if you have seen Vadim Starov vs Muay Thai fighter you would see that his systema is complete garabage. Just cause its military dont mean its good.
mmaguy2008 3 years ago 2
i think you are wrong i only did one lesson of systema and i saw some people who were really good at it. These people show me the true power of systema, it is not about the deadly move but mainly about breathing and using your instinc to fight an opponent. Maybe some muay thai freak could possibly beat up Vasiliev in a ring but i think the same guy would be torn apart in a street fight thats why there is no systema competition....only ends when one of the two is uneable to fight.
DominicRoberge 3 years ago
what is that moronic pixelish-double-face-crap-still after every move?
dexmoire 3 years ago
take it to the ufc
snukiputzi2413 3 years ago
lmao, ufc is a sport, this is a real combat art. Guess what prevails ;)
Morgothhhh 3 years ago 4
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ok, you hae a point... but you gotta walk before you run. so if you can take this to the ufc, maybe then you'll get some respect in the real world of combat
snukiputzi2413 3 years ago
This isn't a martial art, therefore it cannot be in the UFC. All of these moves involve something illegal in MMA. Most of it is like breaking of body parts or hitting soft spots (neck, shoulder, even crotch). All illegal in UFC. UFC is a sport, systema is real combat used for Military purposes. Muy thai and jujitsu are great and all but not as realistic.
CriMSWoW 3 years ago 2
btw Systema is very respected as one of the most deadliest forms of combat. With Krav maga and other foreign military combat styles.
CriMSWoW 3 years ago 2
I agree. If something evolved in REAL military combat then only what worked remained, and what didn't was cut out. But it didn't evolve in a "cage" where people aren't trying to kill each other, but a war zone where people ARE trying to kill each other in ever more efficient ways!
The proof is in the pudding... ex-military people who have tried it in REAL combat situations... it is THOSE people I trust.
Some office worker instructor teaching Ju Jitsu? Forget it!
mikeyo1234 3 years ago 4
but UFC has no business in the real world of combat. it does in combat SPORT however. You are FAIL
DimebagVision 3 years ago
if only you would find a systema trainer, you would understand!! nothing like karate read about it,
derkmcgert 3 years ago 3
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100% agree with you werewoolf82, ive been involved in Martial Arts for over 28 years, and most of these guys are just offering the same stuff in a different package, at the end of the day its all "KARATE"
tandoorio 3 years ago
The distance between Karate and Systema is, well, QUITE GAPING. You guys clearly don't know what Systema is. There are no pre-set techniques in Systema, it is relaxation, breathing, posture, movement, etc. By that, I mean the body is free to respond to a threat any way it finds (it's not an art where you try to execute moves and techniques, hard to explain). Search here on YouTube for some training sessions; "perten" has some great videos showing in class training. Vlad is the REAL DEAL. :)
StopMoColorado 3 years ago 9
@StopMoColorado Vlad is the real deal with his "staged" attacks.
ShawnShaffer 1 year ago 3
man no its not. dude. i have do systema and i have fought guys who do karate and TKD. its a humongous difference. practice in it and do ur research u will see wut i mean.
vespaman101 3 years ago
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well I have not noticed anything new in this system that would differ it from other, so to speak traditional martial arts schools.. same movements, same "tricks"...
werewoolf82 3 years ago