@pacer91345 The meia don't want to alienate the sponsor which are the big pharmaceutical companies. The sponsor holds the real power and not the newspaper or TV companies. Also, the courts pass gagging orders so that even if some brave newspaper was to report this they would be castrated by law, so they don't. The reason the courts give this gagging order is to protect the young offener and his family, but the real reason is to protect the revenue stream of the Big Pharma. Money is everything.
@pacer91345 If you had someone commit suicide in the family then it sets up a emotional event in your mind. Every time you have a negative emotion it multiplies with the existing unresolved negative emotion and because no one has taught us how to deal with our emotions, the mind also stores this new even more charged emotion. So when a similar emotions comes along it can take you over the edge and you may kill yourself. Pills don't help - they stop the healing process so you take them for life.
@pacer91345 However, if you could remove all of the unresolved negative emotions then you will be able to handle stress and trauma far better then if you didn't. The say that mental trauma damages the brain and this can be seen on a cat-can machine. Dr Hamer proved this by curing 5k people out of 5k5 with end stage cancer - in orthodox medicine you will only save 500 people - he was still sent to jail for helping people. Our luggage of life programme gets rid of all past emotions in 2-4 hours.
@pacer91345 A special programme developed using published and un-published material. It involves very deep hypnotherapy and timeline in a special way. If I say anymore I will be giving too many commercial secrets away.
@pacer91345 I could answer this if i only new what you were talking about. We help people who are depressed all the time and we don't use any dangerous drugs either. Type this into YouTube "Antidepressants ruined my life" then look at the Video of Peter sharing his story of how he came off his antidepressants with our help. He is not the first one, we have helped hundreds of people come off their nasty anti-depressants without any side effects. Only ignorent doctors put people on stupid pills.
@pacer91345 Lying is a natural way of life for the Big Pharma so why should they change now. The healthwize org are doing a video report called Prescription For Manslaughter which you can watch on YouTube. Just type 'Prescription For Manslaughter Trailer' in your YouTube browser and it should come up. In the documentary which is partially completed you can see that EVERY case of a violent shootings and killings are related to people who are taking anti-depressants. What a sick world we live in.
"There's only one remedy for crime -- get rid of the psychs! They are causing it!"
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB of 6 May 1982 "The Cause of Crime"
The Church of Scientology blames Psychiatry for the rise of Hitler and Stalin, World War 2, the Holocaust, the attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre on 9/11, the Virginia Tech shootings, and other international tragedies.
I have a lot of criticisms to make about anti-depressant use and the practices of the psychiatric profession, but I probably have just as many to make about this video which is obviously designed to scare/terrify already scared people by offering a biased and distorted view of a very sensitive issue that affects a great many people. Be cautious about jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
"I'm drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys."
- L. Ron Hubbard in a 1967 letter to his wife, written during the period when he was creating Scientology's secret "upper levels." (Bent Corydon and L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. a.k.a. Ronald DeWolf, "L. RON HUBBARD: MESSIAH OR MADMAN?" Random House 1989)
"Benzedrine often helps a case run." - L. Ron Hubbard, "The Intensive Processing Procedure," 1950 ["Run a case" = administer Dianetics or Scientology procedures to someone]
I dont like the cult part of their activities but I take my hat off them for the awareness they have created in the field of psychiatry and psychotropic drugs. Psychiatry is a totally immoral industry that has just gone out of control. There is hope though people like us are beginning to make a difference. If we can save just one life with our message about the dangers of this industry then our own lives would have been vindicated. God bless you all.
Shokat01, you shouldn't believe the CCHR's portrayal of psychiatry, as Scientology has a history of lying to further its agenda. The CCHR aims to obliterate psychiatry and psychiatrist as boasted by David Miscavige in a leaked promotional video. The CCHR/Scientology blames psychiatry for many international tragedies, such as 9/11, World War II, the Holocaust, the Virginia Tech Massacres... and you wanna know why? Because in 1950, the APA rejected Dianetics.
@OpenComments i just noticed all the comments like this they made thier page the same day surely just to lie n write on ur page but they never write on the cchr main page this person can say anything they want but truth is thier and they do not know what they are talkn about...
@Shokat01 Scientology makes a normal and sane discussion about psychiatry IMPOSSIBLE with their silly claims that "the psychs" did 9/11 and the Holocaust and all the other bullshit they tell. And it wouldn't be a help for your mother to waste her life to a criminal convicted cult instead of drugs.
@mollie2810 I would trust my mother to a criminal convicted cult any day of the week then to trust psychiatry and their nasty drugs. With the criminals she may stand a chance, with nasty drugs she stand no chance. I may as well shoot her in the head myself then to put her on anti-depressants.
"I would trust my mother to a criminal convicted cult any day of the week"
Well, that says a lot about you. Good luck with the cult then. Oh and don't forget to give a shit about the victims of the cult. Sure you already do that.
@mollie2810 I though we were talking about depression. I am against anyone taking advantage of people, drug companies or cults of any kind. However you need to ask yourself if they are doing more harm than good. As I have not been harmed by them, I may be looking through tinted glasses and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, $cientology does more harm than good. that's kinda the point. You may not have been harmed by them but others have. I know people who have been harmed by cults and helped by psychiatry and their drugs. Psychiatry has it's problems and that needs to change but a money grabbing cult is no solution to that. Inform yourself better about $cientology and their victims and you'll see.
pacer91345goes on to say/... I have never heard of CCHR being called a cult. CCHR is an award-winning commission responsible for such things as the black label on SSRIs and antipsychotics showing they have caused homicides and homicidal ideation as well as suicides and suicidal ideation. pacer91345 I thank you for this contribution. You are a good man.
pacer91345goes on to say/... This attempt to "label" CCHR as Scientology is a direct propaganda campaign by Big Pharma. Look up Gwen Stevenson, ex Pharma rep. Saying it's Scientoloyg is like saying that you should ignore the Red Cross since it was founded by the Catholic Church, even though it doesn't teach or forward Catholicism. Same with CCHR. There is no mention of Scientology in CCHR's documentaries. That's because CCHR is secular (non-religious).
pacer91345 has left a beautiful comment on this subject on my Channel Comments page. Its too big so I have split the answer into 3 parts. I am glad there are people like him around who has a level head on their shoulders.
No, CCHR is not owned by the Church of Scientology. It's a Commission to handle the abuses in the field of Mental health co-founded by the Church and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, in 1969. That's irrelevant anyway since it's completely secular.
So now your change from "better a cult" than "it's not owned by the cult"? Interesting *yawn*. Look, I know too much about the cult of $cientology to fall for the crap that is said here. CCHR is a front group of $cientology like WISE, like NarCONon, like The Way To Happiness. People to join that are also tried to be lured into the cult and Hubbard made Psychiatry his biggest enemy because they didn't thought his "Dianetics" was great. And he himself died with enough drugs in his body.
Also Jan Eastagte, the head of CCHR is a $cientologist, and btw under arrest atm for proceting a child abuser because she made the victim lie about what happened. There are also famous $ciloons who support Co$, like Travolta, Cruise, Preston, etc. And even if it was not a front group of the cult, it's complete bullshit. Most of the claims of the CCHR are just wrong and completely stupid, like "the psychs did 9/11" and "The psychs are responsible for the Holocaust". CCHR is a joke!
Anyways, I am not interested to continue with this "discussion" and always wait for you to "approve my comment". Obviously we have different opinions. IMO if you seriously wanted to do something against abuses in psychiatry, you would stay far from the joke that is CCHR , so obviously then you are a follower of Hubbtards stupidity. I wish you much fun with the money grabbing alien cult. ;)
The only thing I know which is worse, much worse than Scientology is Psychiatry. How they've been able to get away with it for this long and remain unaccountable is beyond recognition.
The whole health industry is unaccountable at every level. Look at the daft things they do not only for depression but also for addictions, cholesterol, hypertension, weight, cancer and aids. They continue to maim and kill people when there are so many safe, inexpensive and effective remedies out there all the time. Its a pretty sick world we live in where money is more important then lives.
Yes. It is not just Psychiatry which is out of control. Scientologists focus on that merely because that's what LRH focused on. But the entire "Health" industry has caused so much harm and yet get rewarded for their continuous harm.
They claim they are a result of longer life spans but better living conditions are the cause of people living longer. The Health Industry, with few exceptions, has treated human beings like fodder for their coffers.
@MrWinston1984 Because money talks and they have so much money that they make from our misery that they can corrupt governments and government apparatus at ever level. Why do you think the FDA and the American Congress is so messed-up.
I agree but why not ban all psychotropic drugs that don't work and kill people? I know its a pretty sick world we live in that the people we trust are out to make money from our misery.
They should ban all of them and there should be a public system that shows how many deaths, E.R. visits and incidents involving each drug. Big Pharma is no more safe than a street corner drug dealer. If someone is so crazy or uncontrollable that mild drugs/herbs cannot help them then there should a safe tranquilizer or they should be in an institution until they are deemed safe to themselves and others.
There are people in the NHS who think that all of our problems can be solved with 'pills' and ignore all published evidence to the contrary. Last year Hull university undertook a massive research project where they looked at all of the publications from drug companies for anti-depressants, they were shocked at what they discovered. Then they decided to test them against a sugar pill and came to the following conclusion:
Anti-depressants make you feel better, but no better then a sugar pill.
I have an aunt who has been precribed all kinds of psychotropic drugs. They have not helped her at all. Now, I've been told, she just defacates in her bed or where she is sitting. She has aged way beyond her years.
My mum takes these drugs like candy. With all of my knowledge I am powerless to stop her. People trust their ignorant doctors more than they trust their families or their loved ones. I know so many people who got better from cancer with natural remedies but when the doctors got involved and put them on chemotherapy they became actually ill and died within months. They seem to just cast a magic spell on us that they know all the answers and we are nothing but ignorant morons getting in their way.
@alternmedgirl I pleaded with the CCHR to publish a cure and not just go on the onslaught against the corrupt medical practices. They did not want to know as they are only interested in religious indoctrination to help people and anything else is beyond their comprehension. I was willing to teach them my methods so with their huge resources we could have helped thousands of people who need our help. So therapists like us who could do so much for humanity will always face a unfair playing field.
@Shokat01 THIER IS A CURE ITS CALLD EAT GOOD AND MAGNESIUM LOTS OF EXERCISE COMMON SENSE AFTER TIME U FEEL GREAT UR PAST EMOTIONS MAKES U MORE STRONGER!
@alternmedgirl Even in the UK if the NHS worked with us rather then against us we could wipe depression in the UK without drugs. If the CCHR worked with us rather then going it alone with no solution then we could wipe depression off the face of the earth. If they then turned to the corrupt and cruel world of cancer and helped people like Dr Burzynski raise the 300 million dollars he needs then we could save thousands of children that are dying from brain tumours. Maybe one day it will happen.
they NEVER say on the news most people are or were on pills they blame in on problem they had....
pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 The meia don't want to alienate the sponsor which are the big pharmaceutical companies. The sponsor holds the real power and not the newspaper or TV companies. Also, the courts pass gagging orders so that even if some brave newspaper was to report this they would be castrated by law, so they don't. The reason the courts give this gagging order is to protect the young offener and his family, but the real reason is to protect the revenue stream of the Big Pharma. Money is everything.
Shokat01 2 months ago
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pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 If you had someone commit suicide in the family then it sets up a emotional event in your mind. Every time you have a negative emotion it multiplies with the existing unresolved negative emotion and because no one has taught us how to deal with our emotions, the mind also stores this new even more charged emotion. So when a similar emotions comes along it can take you over the edge and you may kill yourself. Pills don't help - they stop the healing process so you take them for life.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@pacer91345 However, if you could remove all of the unresolved negative emotions then you will be able to handle stress and trauma far better then if you didn't. The say that mental trauma damages the brain and this can be seen on a cat-can machine. Dr Hamer proved this by curing 5k people out of 5k5 with end stage cancer - in orthodox medicine you will only save 500 people - he was still sent to jail for helping people. Our luggage of life programme gets rid of all past emotions in 2-4 hours.
Shokat01 2 months ago
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pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 A special programme developed using published and un-published material. It involves very deep hypnotherapy and timeline in a special way. If I say anymore I will be giving too many commercial secrets away.
Shokat01 2 months ago
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pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 I could answer this if i only new what you were talking about. We help people who are depressed all the time and we don't use any dangerous drugs either. Type this into YouTube "Antidepressants ruined my life" then look at the Video of Peter sharing his story of how he came off his antidepressants with our help. He is not the first one, we have helped hundreds of people come off their nasty anti-depressants without any side effects. Only ignorent doctors put people on stupid pills.
Shokat01 2 months ago
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pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 Because everything THEY touch they turn to shit - excuse my french.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@Shokat01 i dont get what ur saying right here what did he cure??
pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 DEPRESSION
Shokat01 2 months ago
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pacer91345 2 months ago
@pacer91345 Lying is a natural way of life for the Big Pharma so why should they change now. The healthwize org are doing a video report called Prescription For Manslaughter which you can watch on YouTube. Just type 'Prescription For Manslaughter Trailer' in your YouTube browser and it should come up. In the documentary which is partially completed you can see that EVERY case of a violent shootings and killings are related to people who are taking anti-depressants. What a sick world we live in.
Shokat01 2 months ago
no no dont worry psychiatry is not immortal...psychiatrists are scared they can be broken like a cigarette..
bboymarcel 1 year ago
"There's only one remedy for crime -- get rid of the psychs! They are causing it!"
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB of 6 May 1982 "The Cause of Crime"
The Church of Scientology blames Psychiatry for the rise of Hitler and Stalin, World War 2, the Holocaust, the attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre on 9/11, the Virginia Tech shootings, and other international tragedies.
OpenComments 2 years ago
I have a lot of criticisms to make about anti-depressant use and the practices of the psychiatric profession, but I probably have just as many to make about this video which is obviously designed to scare/terrify already scared people by offering a biased and distorted view of a very sensitive issue that affects a great many people. Be cautious about jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
socialanxietyvideo 2 years ago
"Psychiatry is slowly becoming the most discredited profession in the world..."
With respect, BULLSHIT!
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
"I'm drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys."
- L. Ron Hubbard in a 1967 letter to his wife, written during the period when he was creating Scientology's secret "upper levels." (Bent Corydon and L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. a.k.a. Ronald DeWolf, "L. RON HUBBARD: MESSIAH OR MADMAN?" Random House 1989)
"Benzedrine often helps a case run." - L. Ron Hubbard, "The Intensive Processing Procedure," 1950 ["Run a case" = administer Dianetics or Scientology procedures to someone]
you HYPOCRITES!!
AnonNed 2 years ago
CCHR is Scientology and Scientology is a criminal convicted CULT.
mollie2810 2 years ago
I dont like the cult part of their activities but I take my hat off them for the awareness they have created in the field of psychiatry and psychotropic drugs. Psychiatry is a totally immoral industry that has just gone out of control. There is hope though people like us are beginning to make a difference. If we can save just one life with our message about the dangers of this industry then our own lives would have been vindicated. God bless you all.
Shokat01 2 years ago
Shokat01, you shouldn't believe the CCHR's portrayal of psychiatry, as Scientology has a history of lying to further its agenda. The CCHR aims to obliterate psychiatry and psychiatrist as boasted by David Miscavige in a leaked promotional video. The CCHR/Scientology blames psychiatry for many international tragedies, such as 9/11, World War II, the Holocaust, the Virginia Tech Massacres... and you wanna know why? Because in 1950, the APA rejected Dianetics.
Don't trust the CCHR.
OpenComments 2 years ago
@OpenComments u dont know shit u must work for the gov......
pacer91345 2 months ago
@OpenComments i just noticed all the comments like this they made thier page the same day surely just to lie n write on ur page but they never write on the cchr main page this person can say anything they want but truth is thier and they do not know what they are talkn about...
pacer91345 2 months ago
@OpenComments its not just cchr its everyone against psychiatrist dumass everyone even well known therapist and good psychiatrist
pacer91345 2 months ago
@OpenComments this is all nonsense
pacer91345 2 months ago
@Shokat01 Scientology makes a normal and sane discussion about psychiatry IMPOSSIBLE with their silly claims that "the psychs" did 9/11 and the Holocaust and all the other bullshit they tell. And it wouldn't be a help for your mother to waste her life to a criminal convicted cult instead of drugs.
mollie2810 2 years ago
@mollie2810 u do know nazis took meth right ... u dont know shit ur lost in ur own perfect world!
pacer91345 2 months ago
@mollie2810 I would trust my mother to a criminal convicted cult any day of the week then to trust psychiatry and their nasty drugs. With the criminals she may stand a chance, with nasty drugs she stand no chance. I may as well shoot her in the head myself then to put her on anti-depressants.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@Shokat01
"I would trust my mother to a criminal convicted cult any day of the week"
Well, that says a lot about you. Good luck with the cult then. Oh and don't forget to give a shit about the victims of the cult. Sure you already do that.
mollie2810 2 months ago
@mollie2810 I though we were talking about depression. I am against anyone taking advantage of people, drug companies or cults of any kind. However you need to ask yourself if they are doing more harm than good. As I have not been harmed by them, I may be looking through tinted glasses and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@Shokat01
Yes, $cientology does more harm than good. that's kinda the point. You may not have been harmed by them but others have. I know people who have been harmed by cults and helped by psychiatry and their drugs. Psychiatry has it's problems and that needs to change but a money grabbing cult is no solution to that. Inform yourself better about $cientology and their victims and you'll see.
mollie2810 2 months ago
pacer91345goes on to say/... I have never heard of CCHR being called a cult. CCHR is an award-winning commission responsible for such things as the black label on SSRIs and antipsychotics showing they have caused homicides and homicidal ideation as well as suicides and suicidal ideation. pacer91345 I thank you for this contribution. You are a good man.
Shokat01 2 months ago
pacer91345goes on to say/... This attempt to "label" CCHR as Scientology is a direct propaganda campaign by Big Pharma. Look up Gwen Stevenson, ex Pharma rep. Saying it's Scientoloyg is like saying that you should ignore the Red Cross since it was founded by the Catholic Church, even though it doesn't teach or forward Catholicism. Same with CCHR. There is no mention of Scientology in CCHR's documentaries. That's because CCHR is secular (non-religious).
Shokat01 2 months ago
pacer91345 has left a beautiful comment on this subject on my Channel Comments page. Its too big so I have split the answer into 3 parts. I am glad there are people like him around who has a level head on their shoulders.
No, CCHR is not owned by the Church of Scientology. It's a Commission to handle the abuses in the field of Mental health co-founded by the Church and Dr. Thomas Szasz, Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, in 1969. That's irrelevant anyway since it's completely secular.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@Shokat01
So now your change from "better a cult" than "it's not owned by the cult"? Interesting *yawn*. Look, I know too much about the cult of $cientology to fall for the crap that is said here. CCHR is a front group of $cientology like WISE, like NarCONon, like The Way To Happiness. People to join that are also tried to be lured into the cult and Hubbard made Psychiatry his biggest enemy because they didn't thought his "Dianetics" was great. And he himself died with enough drugs in his body.
mollie2810 2 months ago
@Shokat01
Also Jan Eastagte, the head of CCHR is a $cientologist, and btw under arrest atm for proceting a child abuser because she made the victim lie about what happened. There are also famous $ciloons who support Co$, like Travolta, Cruise, Preston, etc. And even if it was not a front group of the cult, it's complete bullshit. Most of the claims of the CCHR are just wrong and completely stupid, like "the psychs did 9/11" and "The psychs are responsible for the Holocaust". CCHR is a joke!
mollie2810 2 months ago
@Shokat01
Anyways, I am not interested to continue with this "discussion" and always wait for you to "approve my comment". Obviously we have different opinions. IMO if you seriously wanted to do something against abuses in psychiatry, you would stay far from the joke that is CCHR , so obviously then you are a follower of Hubbtards stupidity. I wish you much fun with the money grabbing alien cult. ;)
mollie2810 2 months ago
The only thing I know which is worse, much worse than Scientology is Psychiatry. How they've been able to get away with it for this long and remain unaccountable is beyond recognition.
MrWinston1984 2 years ago
The whole health industry is unaccountable at every level. Look at the daft things they do not only for depression but also for addictions, cholesterol, hypertension, weight, cancer and aids. They continue to maim and kill people when there are so many safe, inexpensive and effective remedies out there all the time. Its a pretty sick world we live in where money is more important then lives.
Shokat01 2 years ago
Yes. It is not just Psychiatry which is out of control. Scientologists focus on that merely because that's what LRH focused on. But the entire "Health" industry has caused so much harm and yet get rewarded for their continuous harm.
They claim they are a result of longer life spans but better living conditions are the cause of people living longer. The Health Industry, with few exceptions, has treated human beings like fodder for their coffers.
MrWinston1984 2 years ago 3
@MrWinston1984 Well said. I could not agree more.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@MrWinston1984 Because money talks and they have so much money that they make from our misery that they can corrupt governments and government apparatus at ever level. Why do you think the FDA and the American Congress is so messed-up.
Shokat01 2 months ago
Paxil is lethal I had a nightmarish experience with it
bonzaibb12 2 years ago 3
I agree but why not ban all psychotropic drugs that don't work and kill people? I know its a pretty sick world we live in that the people we trust are out to make money from our misery.
Shokat01 2 years ago
They should ban all of them and there should be a public system that shows how many deaths, E.R. visits and incidents involving each drug. Big Pharma is no more safe than a street corner drug dealer. If someone is so crazy or uncontrollable that mild drugs/herbs cannot help them then there should a safe tranquilizer or they should be in an institution until they are deemed safe to themselves and others.
bonzaibb12 2 years ago 3
There are people in the NHS who think that all of our problems can be solved with 'pills' and ignore all published evidence to the contrary. Last year Hull university undertook a massive research project where they looked at all of the publications from drug companies for anti-depressants, they were shocked at what they discovered. Then they decided to test them against a sugar pill and came to the following conclusion:
Anti-depressants make you feel better, but no better then a sugar pill.
Shokat01 2 years ago
legalize cannabis
airplanestick 2 years ago
I have an aunt who has been precribed all kinds of psychotropic drugs. They have not helped her at all. Now, I've been told, she just defacates in her bed or where she is sitting. She has aged way beyond her years.
Jeorney 2 years ago 3
My mum takes these drugs like candy. With all of my knowledge I am powerless to stop her. People trust their ignorant doctors more than they trust their families or their loved ones. I know so many people who got better from cancer with natural remedies but when the doctors got involved and put them on chemotherapy they became actually ill and died within months. They seem to just cast a magic spell on us that they know all the answers and we are nothing but ignorant morons getting in their way.
Shokat01 2 years ago
I do not agree with the CCHR on everything...but they're RIGHT ON here....
alternmedgirl 2 years ago
@alternmedgirl U WILL AGREE WITH EVERYTHING TRUST
pacer91345 2 months ago
@alternmedgirl I pleaded with the CCHR to publish a cure and not just go on the onslaught against the corrupt medical practices. They did not want to know as they are only interested in religious indoctrination to help people and anything else is beyond their comprehension. I was willing to teach them my methods so with their huge resources we could have helped thousands of people who need our help. So therapists like us who could do so much for humanity will always face a unfair playing field.
Shokat01 2 months ago
@Shokat01 THIER IS A CURE ITS CALLD EAT GOOD AND MAGNESIUM LOTS OF EXERCISE COMMON SENSE AFTER TIME U FEEL GREAT UR PAST EMOTIONS MAKES U MORE STRONGER!
pacer91345 2 months ago
@alternmedgirl Even in the UK if the NHS worked with us rather then against us we could wipe depression in the UK without drugs. If the CCHR worked with us rather then going it alone with no solution then we could wipe depression off the face of the earth. If they then turned to the corrupt and cruel world of cancer and helped people like Dr Burzynski raise the 300 million dollars he needs then we could save thousands of children that are dying from brain tumours. Maybe one day it will happen.
Shokat01 2 months ago