Cemetery Ghost EVP and Paranormal PX PX Part 2 (new ovilus) Test with K2 KII, Part 2

[redyoshi1985]

I will have to come into the chat room sometime when you guys are live.. I tried to get in there last night, but you were not live on your blogtalkradio show and there were 2 mods in the room, but they were not active. I bookmarked the page so I can come back later though. I have done a lot of homework maybe I can talk to you about the spirits that are here.. IDK

[redyoshi1985]

Hey Uploader I have the Xparanormal Detector for PC and I keep getting the same 3 words in a row they are "HACKER" "DEVIL" "666" what could that possibly mean.. Also I keep getting random animal names "zebra" "Tortoise" "Rabbit" "Rhinoceros" but always the three world in order "Hacker" "Devil" "666" out of thousands of words it picks those three in order every time.. Why? What is the significance. if it is a Hacker it is not a Devil, if it is a devil it is not a Hacker and 666 is just weird.

[claranormaldotcom]

@redyoshi1985 I haven't heard of the 'Xparanormal Detector for PC' so I have no idea how it works or why it would give particular words. Hacker could be one who chops, too, or computer hacker, guess it depends on context. Devil is pretty simple, and 666 is the sign of the beast, but was actually Nero's street address in Rome, that's where the number comes from. 666 the beast was a reference to Nero, or a 'Nero like' future leader on the world stage. Self absorbed, vain, insane.

[jagpitshow757]

should eat rabbit? lol!!! I dont think so and wooow its not every day ya hear a ghost say paranormal!!! lol cleansing light plateau thats interesting as well and I agree that it probly takes a while to learn a new piece of equipment like that. sounds like its not having to much trouble though I guess by saying hide so many times it meant from the sprinklers lol great vid!

[wendeelouhew]

Do you ever go to the chapel of the chimes cemetery in Hayward? My grandparents are buried there. It would be interesting to see if you could get relevant info from their grave. with an ovilus evp session...I could confirm whether or not it has any relevance. It would be interesting...Feel free to message me if you are interested and I'll give you the deets.

[ruen2012]

Come check out my real conversations with the dead

[MattGraz34]

I'm getting one for my b day

[Mr007bball]

Cool man

[MrBizzarobrian]

Can you tell me the name of all four devices from left to right & explain each of their functions? Thanx!

[claranormaldotcom]

@MrBizzarobrian Left to right.

Ghost meter, an analog non-calibrated EMF (ElectroMagnetic Field) detector which peaks at 5 milliGauss. Lights up and beeps at about 2.5 milliGauss. Sort of an early warning mech, and used to verify what the K2 reads to a point.

Sony digital recorder, amazingly sensitive.

PX Ovilus, measures changes in EM field and other natural fields and assigns words to those changes.

K2 meter. LED lights mark the measurements of EM fields up to 40 milliGauss.

[MrBizzarobrian]

@claranormaldotcom I`m thinking of buying these.Thanx for your time. :)

[redyoshi1985]

@claranormaldotcom If they get wet does it ruin them?

[claranormaldotcom]

@redyoshi1985 Probably, lol. I'm really not willing to find out. The camera used here had been soaked down pretty good a couple times and come through,but that's just dumb luck. Any electronics that are not water proof or water resistant should be moved away from potential water damage. If they do get wet turn them off immediately, remove batteries, let them dry completely (in uncooked rice is a good water absorbing method).

[claranormaldotcom]

@MrBizzarobrian The idea, theory is that spirits impact the EM field around them, and that this is measurable. The meters seek to measure the changes that a spirit brings letting us know they are present. We've had several instances of question and answer sequences using all of these machines pictured (touch this meter for yes, this one for no) with the meters being close enough to each other to rule out random energy bursts triggering readings. Still, can't see spirits, so...

[MrBizzarobrian]

@claranormaldotcom Thanks! Of all these videos I`ve watched this entity speaks more randomly then the rest.

[MediaHoax]

This is to random for me.

[qwertyuiop61234]

i must buy that ghost gear i have camras lol if a ghost talk to you do not run he or she may get mad

[qwertyuiop61234]

i must buy that ghost gear i have camras lol

[trainguy2020]

@Claranormaldotcom well, Sxydynamite is obviously a demon. When I say "demon" I'm speaking in terms of hating. I personally say this machine works best in phonetic mode, not dictionary. And as for Sxydynamite, he can go worship the "ovilus hating god".

You should try out the ovilus X. I think it's alot better than the PX. You should post more vids of the ovilus I

[claranormaldotcom]

@trainguy2020 I got ya. PX and X have the same word lists, but the x is faster processor wise. It's good, but not $400 good, at least as far as what I'd personally spend, especially being retired from the field.

X has only made one appearance, and probably won't make a second, but who knows what the field brings...

[trainguy2020]

@YCgopi and

@Sxydynamite oh look everyone, it's the two "demonic" ovilus haters.

[claranormaldotcom]

@trainguy2020 LOL! They can have their opinions. In a way they're right. We have an original ovilus and the PX ovilus and I won't introduce anything they come up with into evidence unless it meets a couple criteria:

Context. If they say something absolutely in context to a question or event, it's compelling, contextual evidence.

EVP match. If the machine says something which matches an EVP then we have EVP context, compelling evidence also. Some people are just haters, let Karma get 'em.

[YCgopi]

Just spitting out random words!

[claranormaldotcom]

@YCgopi Sometimes, but if you knew anything aboiut the machine, you'd know that it requires a trigger to speak, period. That trigger is changes in the environment around it. What it really is is an environmental meter, and changes in what it measures triggers what words is speaks.

[ManderMurduh]

ha i love how it just laughs at the end XD

[princess24kris]

Murphy name comes up allot on other PX recordings I just noticed

[trainguy2020]

why? just why? why are people saying "I don't like this device"? it's as if they're becoming a demonic ovilus hater. I get sick and tired of reading "I don't like this device" "I don't like this device!"

[claranormaldotcom]

@trainguy2020 Well, it's the arbitrary part of it I'm sure. Many people mistakenly believe it's a random number (or word) generator. It has no means of randomly generating anything. What it actually is is an environmental meter, sensing and measuring the environment around it and articulating words based on those environmental changes. Personally, I use it very little, but I'm glad I have one.

[sxydynamite]

I dont like this device all ive seen is just random words piled into a computer voice, Now if i was dead and i was trying to comunicate to the living why would i be saying "nail, Lime, 15" for no reason i wouldnt be! even if it was a demon it would still wanna comunicate and say out profanity cause thats what demons do they swear at you and tell you to leave or threaten you, This device just seems like a random word voice box not convinced!

[claranormaldotcom]

@sxydynamite thanks for youe comment! Yeah, not knowing how it works I could see how you'd think that. What the box really is is an evironmental meter. It measure changes around it, and the numerical value of those changes correspond to words on a numbered list of words, 1-2048. In theory a spirit would change the environment in such a way as to push out the words it wants, and there's obviously be a learning curve. This video was to see if it worked at all. We're on the fence even now.

[MrGigman07]

so do u think its rattling off random words,doz it always do this.

[claranormaldotcom]

@MrGigman07 Many times yes, and sometimes there is a meaning or pattern. The main thing with this machine is to capture something contextual, or capture an evp in which the machine and evp say essentially the same thing, each is then verifying the other, a very rare occurance. Or sometimes you can use an emf meter in conjunction with a) showing there are or are not any emf fields causing the machine to say words, or as a check against each otrher.

[Sk8onURown]

this fucker wont shut up. lol

[Alcirklutc]

where to buy Ovilus machines (as well as the Ghost Radar)

[claranormaldotcom]

@Alcirklutc Check ebay for Ovilus. sometime you can score. Other than that Digital dowsing dot com. The new Ovilus X is like 4 bills plus when I looked into it a couple months ago. Ghost Radar you cab download onto your iphone, android and i think blackberry too. There's a free version and a very inexpensive paid version.

[tackgirl]

@Alcirklutc I have the same one for sale if looking! I love using it, but I havent had time to hunt in the past 5 months with nothing in the future(last was at Waverly HIlls with interesting results) and would like to see it used!

[joshanator1]

SILA ,Buddhist Pali word originally meant simply conduct. But in the context of spiritual training it signifies a particular type conduct - good conduct, and by extension, the type of character for which such conduct stands - good character.

[joshanator1]

ok. Hope this helps; SILA is actually an acronym. It stands for...

"Sustainable Independent Living And Access" or it could be...

"Shuswap independent living Association"

That's what I've got so far.

I'll continue to research it to find more.

[joshanator1]

wow! It actually used the word Paranormal! 

[claranormaldotcom]

@colieswo I'm sure you're right. We didn't have the px program when we did this to compare the words to the PX's odd pronunciations, and that could well have beenh the cause of whomever's demise. Thank you for commenting!

[BaltimoreSkater98]

Lol! False idol hat

[dahlia58]

At one point "false idol" was followed by "hat" and I suddenly remembered reading about the Algonquin Round Table. One of them, Harold Ross as I recall,

was there when Valentino fell down on the street and died. His hat rolled and Ross caught it and kept it in his possession...One time when u mentioned Valentino I think the answer was 'bottle'. And when you asked if she visited him I think she says 'sure'...Your video was done well and really caught my interest!

[claranormaldotcom]

@dahlia58 Thanks for your comments Dahlia! One thing we've discovered since this video was made (thanks to a viewer) is that all Ovilus machines have some weird pronunciations. We obtained and listened to the word list our PX uses and found that "False Idol" was actually "Possible." Valentino actually died in a NY hospital (Sepsis after having appendix removed) and was shipped via train cross country for burial at HFC, stopping at major cities along the way.

[claranormaldotcom]

@dahlia58 Last note on this, Valentino's doctors though he was going to recover and told him so. He started making plans for his future, then abruptly died.

We took three excellent mediums to his crypt a couple of months ago, and they had this to say: "He says 'Thank you for bringing attention to me. I was feeling as if I had been forgotten.'"

[BeafyBee]

SQUEEZ LOL

[FUscumbagHAHA]

im sorry but there is not one shred of evidence or proof of these boxes communicating with the dead. it really takes away from the legitamacy of a team when they use crap like these boxes. evps and cameras are the way to go. ill eat my words if someone can show me proof these work. not just a storey.

[claranormaldotcom]

@FUscumbagHAHA Thanks for adding your comment!. You're absolutely correct. We don't base any of our findings on any of these machines, and we make that very clear on our site, on our radio show, and by the fact that we do not present this as findings, but more as a curiousity. People are enthralled by the Ovilus machines (as well as the Ghost Radar) but both are meaningless unless accompanied by something contextual or by an EVP.

[swedishpimp28]

@FUscumbagHAHA

you want proof, i can scafe you so badly you will never turn off the lights! Iv held countless number of intelligent conversations with not only people i didn't know. my own dead mother said some stuff that fucked me up. get 1 and ul c. my bedroom door opened 4 no reason.

[swedishpimp28]

@FUscumbagHAHA

so i got 1. asked whos openin my shit. its my mom. only y i hav a girl in my room. i asked y my door keeps openin win im pounding she says "cuz i dont like the bitch". i dumped her aweek later. my door opened all the tm win she was here. not once in 8 yrs after that

[swedishpimp28]

@FUscumbagHAHA

really what the ovilus 2 said was dont like her it feaked me out cuz she was the first person i talked with i took it to a graveyard i started running win i heard what i waws hearing

[LordDraxxos09]

Whoever was using the device from beyond must have a sense of humor! 

[claranormaldotcom]

@LordDraxxos09 lol, I couldn't agree more!

[Datleco]

What equipment let's the spirits speak through it? Because you're only picking up bits and pieces of conversation going on, one asking what is that thing? The other saying it's a paranormal thing, I want one of those so they can speak to my family. Only SOME were toward you and they were most likely speaking TO you while it would pick it up, that's why you don't get complete sentences and why some words are random and irrelevant to majority that are picked up.

[claranormaldotcom]

@Datleco For the most part it's all irrelevant unless you have something which corroborates the words. Sometimes you'll have a hunch that pays off and take a line of question that corroborates what the machine says, rarely tho. For instance, if you ask what the name or other pierce of information from the next headstone be spoken and you get that back, corroboration. Also if you can catch an evp which says approximately the same thing as the machine, you have two corroborating pieces of info.

[Datleco]

@claranormaldotcom Understandable, you got, what is it, only 2000 words to choose from? As many as it seems, it still isn't enough for some, I'll still hunt that and a ghost box down so I can check out a few small places that people overlook.

[SoothingChime15]

It was interesting to see and listen to the different equipment. I wouldn't be surprised if you picked up Ditra around Valentino's grave at Hollywood Forever cemetery if you ever get a chance to go there. She adored Valentino, and I can picture her still watching over and protecting his crypt. An ultimate catch would be Valentino himself. What an achievement that would be! :)

[claranormaldotcom]

@SoothingChime15 Cool that you mention, we didn't catch Ditra at Valentino's, but we think we caught Valentino there. It's in our Hollywood Forever vid here on YT. On a later trip we came with three psychics who said he was there with them and that he's very happy he has not been forgotten.

[SoothingChime15]

@claranormaldotcom Hey that is cool. I will have to check that out being a huge Valentino fan myself. I would love to get one of those "Ghost boxes" as I have heard some call them. I have some pretty intense EVPs that were caught on my digital recorder, but it's rather scary when you hear them talking directly too you on playback. I had to stop doing it in my own home, it was too much. :(

[Daddy4Big]

I think it was giving him hints about something of the highway or about the city or something . Because its saying "THINK FALSE IDOL HIGHWAY HAT ELECTRIC CAREER" and if you think about it it could be saying "THINK A FALSE IDOL WITH A HAT AND ELECTRIC CAREER"

[Daddy4Big]

I think it was giving him hints about something of the highway or about the city or something . Because its saying "THINK FALSE IDOL HIGHWAY HAT" and if you think about it it could be saying "THINK A FALSE IDOL WITH A HAT"

[bambi732]

Supposedly, it can only qive you a word or two that it can capture out of the sentence. I DO believe this is faaaaar more than one; possibly hundreds-- explaininq the incredible amount of words recorded; and btw; you neeeed to do this at DEAD TIME which is exactly 3 am... yeah it'll be dark and creepy, but thats when paranormal occurances are more natural and happen!

[john32756]

theres got to be way more than on spirit talking

[claranormaldotcom]

@john32756 Thanks for the comment John. Best guess there's 2 or 3 that hang out near Ditra's, or "inhabit "this location, and we've yet been able to identify any of them by name. There seems to be a woman and one or two men, and they plead for help for "her." Is this "her" Ditra? No confimation yet, but we'll try again at some point.

[fish67y]

You should do it at night time why in the day

[claranormaldotcom]

@fish67y Our most recent at this location was done at night, and we caught some good stuff. Thanks for the suggestion and comment!

[bambi732]

@fish67y Is it illeqal to be in a cemetary at niqht? Around here it is..

[Gamescare]

I have the EXACT ocd problem...it annoys me a lot though.

[markymarkuss777]

The word Sila is a buddhist word that means "morals" or "morality." In a deeper connotative sense it was a list of things that "Enlightened people" wouldn't do or engage in. It kept saying false idol as well. I'm wondering if it was talking about changing your morals?

[claranormaldotcom]

@markymarkuss777 Thanks for commenting and adding the buddhist word into the debate. The word list for the PX was published shortly after this video was, and I also wrote Bill chappell, the creator of the PX machines and others about some of this machine's pronunciations. Bill said use the word list to get the words, because some have odd pronuciations. He was right. Sila is actually Solo, Songuyers is Soldiers, etc. Thanks again!

[EpicSpirit7]

I have heard this on ghost adventures say the same thing HIGHWAY,suffer, and MERCURY I dont know if these are that accurate!

[claranormaldotcom]

@EpicSpirit7 Right you are. The PX, like the Ovilus before it can accurately be called "environmental meters," as they measure changes in the environment around the machine, and said changes correspond to numerical values which in turn correspond to particular words. If GA's sensed the same enviro change as ours did, it would give the same words.

[TheSpiritPilot]

What mode do you have it on?

[claranormaldotcom]

@TheSpiritPilot It was in dictionary mode here, on low setting. We vary it per use and place.

[TheSpiritPilot]

@claranormaldotcom Our group has a PX and we love it, but we honestly have no idea what the low, medium, or high settings are for. Can you please explain, we can't seem to find what the settings do?

Thanks

[claranormaldotcom]

@TheSpiritPilot Bill's documentation isn't very good, but it seems to be more selective in medium and high settings. My best guess via experimenting is low means low energy sets it off, medium = medium energy, high requires more effort, but again, just guessing.

[goodsnservices]

so funny, the entire time it was trying to tell you that the sprinklers were gonna ruin the electric record -- "think" "hose" "run -- highway" "hat" "hide under" "hurry spring think highway" "run"

[claranormaldotcom]

@goodsnservices lol! And thenj it laughed at me on the way out. Too true, and thank you for your comment!

[goodsnservices]

@goodsnservices Dude, and "flsidol" is a mispronounciation of "false idol" that it says several times correctly.

[Larzabeth]

Does it say the same words if you take it to a different cemetery?

[claranormaldotcom]

@Larzabeth At oak park cemetery it refused to talk at all, and it was pretty quiet at Hollywood Forever Cemetery too. In each case we caught more evps when the PX was quiet that when it was talkative.

[Larzabeth]

@claranormaldotcom I was wondering if it was just programmed to say a lot of words but I guess not if that was your experience with it. That is interesting that you were able to get more evps when the PX was quiet.

[claranormaldotcom]

@Larzabeth Sometimes it seems that way, but no, it requires input to give off words. That input is measured as changes in the electromagnetic field afound the PX, so really it's an environmental meter when you get right down to it. Whether spirits can communicate with it is still very much up in the air.

[Larzabeth]

@claranormaldotcom That is very interesting. So it "says" the words but you have to record them with a separate recorder? And then sometimes that recorder will pick up the EVPs? I have one of those EMF meters with the lights. Last winter when ghost hunting at a cemetery it was lighting up completely at times. And the range was from above my knees up to my head. There was nothing electrical around. But yet we got no EVP.

[claranormaldotcom]

@Larzabeth It can record it's last 400 words spoken in reverse order, otherwise yes, you have to record it seperately, and in the process you might catch an evp. Quick note on emf meters is it isn't just electrical they pick up (which is well insulated by the ground anyway) but seperate magnetic as well (which can travel through the ground, concrete and other normal insulators.

[Larzabeth]

@claranormaldotcom Thank you for explaining that to me about the EMF meters. I did not know that. It makes me wonder where the magnetic forces are coming from. Now I want to get a PX. But they are so expensive! LOL

[cb8673]

Hide from the false idol that wears a hat? Learn Jin? (Marvel vs. Capcom fan?)

Does it automatically attempt phonetic mode if there is no match in the dictionary?

And the PX is a jerk!

[claranormaldotcom]

@cb8673 ROFLMAO! Yes, yes it is a self serving, non-listening, non-caring cretin.

On phonetic versus dictionary, no, it stays in the mode it's being used in. If in dictionary mode it'll spew a random word if it can't find the right word or sound. In phonetic it keeps to phonemes, and does the same in reverse phonetic mode. In touch mode it'll only ping and won't give words. Best I can tell it can't mix and match, which would be useful.

[cb8673]

@claranormaldotcom Ahh, alright. I'm no expert in any of this sorta thing, but just from what I've seen so far, the PX just likes to spit out words, and while the Ovilus will as well, not as frequently. That said I could be wrong. And as far as words that are apparently meaningless (Forgive if you've figured it out since now) such as Sila, it would be nice to have a simple screen showing the word. Maybe the next version, yea?

[claranormaldotcom]

@cb8673 PX, Ovilus are made by same people. The PX is more advanced, more memory, and speaks 2-3 x faster. Thus it would seem more random than Ovilus, because you get 2-3 x more words in a given time. On a screen for the words, the PX can be hooked up to a computer while in use and that does give the words. Haven't tried that out yet. It's the context that matters, and there must be a learning curve for spirits. Sila - it's pronunciations suck but Istill don't know what sila is!

[cb8673]

@claranormaldotcom Ahh. Curious that it (or whatever may be manipulating it) has some "favorites" as it were. Now I'm wondering what on earth "sila" and "Songuyears" are supposed to be. And I don't think they're referring to the Securities and Insurance Licensing Association. Thanks again for the replies!

[wreckmaster100]

where online can i order a emf pump and a px??

[claranormaldotcom]

@wreckmaster100 You can get these at digitaldowsing. Keep in mind that the PX is more or less for entertainment purposes (the site will make you affirm that several times), but it does have it's uses. You best tools are your still camera, and a good voice recorder. The rest is nearly superfluous. Check out our radio show series So You Want to be a Ghost Hunter at blogtalkradio (user claranormal) for more info.

[wreckmaster100]

to close to the other devices or to sensitive

[claranormaldotcom]

@wreckmaster100 Actually it makes no difference how close the machines are to each other, except if they are one atop the other. This is shown by example when I walked off the grass when the sprinklers came on. The k2 went wild, but this does not effect the PX at all.

[wreckmaster100]

@claranormaldotcom awesome..i just ordered a k2 meter cant wait to try this stuff out..im just getting into this ghost hunting and in the past all i ever used was a camera ..got some good pictures to..thanks

[claranormaldotcom]

@wreckmaster100 A good camera is essential, so you're on the right track.

K2's are ok, especially since they show well on video, and they give a decent rough display of EMF energy, but they don't beat a good tri field meter, or any EMF meter which can be calibrated and has a finer measure. A k2 jumps in scale from 1.5 to 2.5 to 10 to 20 milligauss with no in betweens, and a Ghost Meter tops out at 5 milligauss, but scales up to that point. Neither of these can be calibrated though.

[enthenoel]

placebo, not flesible, and "false idol" is really "hospital" i believe... there's a dictionary list at digital dowsing's site; helps ALOT. ooops, this is my first comment on youtube... Do you ever try changing the sensitivity? Medium will cut down alot of those common repeats

[enthenoel]

placebo, not flesible, and "false idol" is really "hospital" i believe... there's a dictionary list at digital dowsing's site; helps ALOT.

[enthenoel]

placebo, not flesible... there's a dictionary list at digital dowsing's site; helps ALOT

[claranormaldotcom]

@enthenoel Yeah, it could be Placebo, but it sure doesn't sound like it. This machine says this word a whole lot. I have looked for a vocab list for the PX for weeks and have yet to find one. Do you know where?

[enthenoel]

placebo

[LaLaLianna1]

At 0:22, it sounds like "death threat"

[claranormaldotcom]

@LaLaLianna1 Thanks Lianna! It could be. Many of the words PX says are difficult to understand, and we hope there are enough people out there who can help decipher some of them, and correct the ones we have wrong.

[illuair472]

@claranormaldotcom The unintelligible word sounds like "knowledge" everytime I hear it.

[claranormaldotcom]

@illuair472 It could be. I'll listen to it some more with that in mind. Thanks!