Empty Hands - Kilindi Iyi: Part 1

[luvllyiceman]

cool

[mjrob1914]

@speechclasstaipei, Thank you for your comment. You should really do some research on Kilindi Iyi and then make your comments. He is know internationally through out the Martial Arts World. All you have to do is Google his name.

[EvergreenScience]

HsingYiChuan/ChuanFa+Funga Alafia  Pearl Primus and Sun Lu-Tang would be perplexed... and perhaps proud?

[wardoggwyllgi]

@lokallize if people of african descent were considered "american" from the start we wouldn't have become so interested in our ancestor's culture.

[mjrob1914]

@wardoggwyllgi, We should be interested in our Ancestors culture whether or not we are accepted into the culture of our oppressor.

[wardoggwyllgi]

it truly is a shame when internet snarks stop using occams razor. any who if african martial arts are non existant then what do you call what the zulu used to beat MACHINGUN TOTING BRITISH SOLDIERS WITH SPEARS? I CAN TELL YOU THIS... IT WHATEVER IT WAS IT WASN'T FROM CHINA!

[niseikenpo]

I have no doubt that ancient AFRICANS practiced some form of fighting as did every area of the globe.PANKRATOS of the GREEKS is not the 1st martial art or even the 1st recorded EGYPTIAN character writing on monuments and HINDU manuscripts prove this .They were recorded before there was a place called GREECE.

What I want to know is where and what is the lineage that connects what you are doing to a very far and distant past .Most martial knowledge was spread thru trade between countrys.

[kjax2008]

The assertions here seem to be based on the assumption that because Africa had ancient cultures that they must have had martial arts that were then passed to the rest of the world. But he provides no evidence of this. My suspicion is raised further when he asserts that horse riding came out of Africa, yet horses were first ridden in Asia. Also out of all the African martial arts I have seen, none look anything like the stuff this guy does here or on his other videos.

[mjrob1914]

@kjax2008, You should Google Kilindi's name and do some research on him. He is legitimate.

[hazza3]

This is new to me. Im not at all familiar with full african history.

My best history on Africans are on Nubians, Ghana, Senegal and Zulu. Mostly due to European contact.

Which part of Africa does Kilindi Iyi come from?

[mjrob1914]

@hazza3, He was born in the U.S. I don't know which part of Africa his Ancestors are from.

[sanddocon]

u could also say it look like wing chun i like it

were u can learn

[cagedraptor]

have not even seen the vid yet, but feel like defending it. If you train in more than one style you will notice that all styles have similar skills. It comes down to what works / works no matter what part of the world you come from. Even if it is his own style mixed with dance so what. If it works for him then it is a value. Quit with all the it's just this style mixed with this to form his own. Again haven't even seen it and feel like defending it.

[pochazet]

how would you know that keith?

[amharjew1]

good stuff

[bassreeves1965]

this looks like asian martial system.

[mumbatik]

Its look more like danceing then any thing else its look good but its wouldn't be effecty

[mjrob1914]

@mumbatik, Please do some research on Kilindi before making uninformed comments. I've seen his demonstrations in person and use to practice with one of his former students. He wouldn't do security for Wesley Snipes and Dr. Leonard Jeffries if he was ineffective.

[qama111]

Just my opinion, but the first time a guy practiced swinging a stick or throwing a rock was the first martial art, the first guy to teach another guy what he learned was the first Instructor. What is relevant now is can we meet on the field of ideas and profit from that meeting. I have been in the MA for 27 years and I would covet the opportunity to train with this man. I think it would be educational for me and hopefully he would get something out of it also. With Respect.

[leonidasThes]

very nice work wqith the video and the explaining was realy good....

[HeadoftheHydra]

There's no such thing as "African Martial arts" as far as I know of (it's debatable considering some Africans use sticks and a shield [well, another stick AS a shield...]) and Africans most certainly did not "invent" martial arts, horse-back-riding, etc. as this guy in the video claims at 2:00 or so.

Seems like another black guy trying to rewrite history to make his race sound superior or something.

As someone who studied a true martial art, I'm rather insulted by this foolishness.

[mjrob1914]

@HeadoftheHydra, You should really do some historical research. Just leave it at that you are uninformed about African Martial Arts.

[cbfeeling]

That's Xingyi!

[anhkhoinguyen]

martial arts originated on every continent by every people, simply for the fact that man had to survive and it'll be stupid to think that martial arts developed in Africa or Asia only...it developed everywhere. Sick of seeing eurocentic and Africo-centic propaganda revising history.........

[mjrob1914]

@anhkhoinguyen, He didn't say that it only developed in Africa. He was saying that the first fighting systems known to man originated in Africa. Not that all fighting systems originated in Africa.

[GODBROS1]

we are in detroit search tamerrian on you tube

[GODBROS1]

tammerian video on godbros1 come see

us get down we are in detroit.

[galaxi1999]

All come on brotha, u aint did nothing jazzified wing chung with a dash of wu-shu(northern style wu-shu at that)

[mjrob1914]

@galaxi1999, Please do some research on Kilindi before making your uninformed comments.

[eretuev]

woodoo people magic people!!!

[mjrob1914]

@eretuev, What are you talking about?

[Naga7206]

I hav no sound?

[tentonsoffunbaby]

Why does it cut out when youstart explaining the circling power and move right to the straight line power?

[diamond132]

Thats my dad!

[surgicalops]

Hey mjrob1914 did you ever notice that this martiart very and I mean very closely resembles chinese wing chun.

[SacredFireFilms]

Thanks for sharing some history and these amazing techniques and concepts. I really enjoyed this video.

[tansao1]

GRACIAS MAESTRO por este video, es un Arte que no conocia, GRACIAS.

de Argentina.

[haruskyy]

lol these cave boys will never except the truth they hate the fact that we were here first ...rb87rb87rb is ignorant as hell he needs to go back to doosh land and boneheadagain is as stupid as his screen name.white boys come on a pro black channel and talk white supremecy how ridicules !

[mattm1836]

Cave boys? All races used caves when they were available. White people are no more "cave boys" than anyone else. Besides, why build a shelter when nature has already provided one?

[mjrob1914]

Thanks lokallize for your comment. Who are you addressing this comment towards?

[RicoRicanNYC]

wow, some nice moves!! Thanks for posting..

[eyezwideshut]

I train under one of his Elders/Students this is truly a powerful and deadly art.

[yoops]

Who cares where martial arts originated from. It's a concept that would have started from anywhere. There is no such thing as the parent martial art that started all others.

[Iconqueru]

Exactly and that's the point I'm making, every ethnic group on the planet has had a system of martial art techniques and they are all just as old as eachother.

[LilBlitz116]

wow the human weapon should makean episode with african martial arts

[mjrob1914]

Yes I agree, LilBlitz116. Does the Human Weapon still come on? That was an excellent show on the History Channel.

[sizzla123]

wheres the rest?

theres only 1 and 2.

there used to be a guy who posted the enitre thing...........

[mjrob1914]

You can visit AfricanHistoryNetwork.

[holyknight70]

It's not about where the martial arts started hell i could have started in Iraq for all I care, its about what you get from it, do you just learn it to fight or learn it's philosophies to better yourself in the way so and so MA teaches.

[skittlesareyum48]

where is the The Ta-merrian Institute

[mjrob1914]

If I remeber correctly it's in Highland Park, MI or Detroit, MI.

[sunworship7]

Yo Rob ! Why is it so hard for the children of man to bow down to their parents ? Maybe rb87 can tell us why there are ancient statues of lions in china ? NO LION'S IN CHINA. AN HAVE HAIR IN RING's JUST LIKE THE BUDDA. Take a look. NAPS , AFRO. Wool.

[47roma]

so glad for this video on african arts! thank you

[jinnimage]

i dont doubt that africa had its own style of martial arts, many places in the world have independently developed styles for as long as there has been war. but this is not where asian martial arts came from. asian martial arts as we know them today come from Kalarippayattu in india. just thought you (and the people that mention this in the video) should know.

[mjrob1914]

Keep in mind that Africans went around the world and many times were there 1st. The 1st inhabitants of India were Africans for instance. They were from Ethiopia.

[jinnimage]

that may be true but just having a shared lineage isnt a reason to think that the two martial arts have any thing to do with each other. also the original inhabitants of india were the persians.

[mjrob1914]

Go study the origins of Persia and you will see that originally the 1st inhabitants were Africans.

[jinnimage]

that was prior to the stone age. but like i stated previously a shared ancestry doesn't mean that this was the origin of all martial arts.

[mjrob1914]

Jinnimage, I never said that all Martial Arts forms originated in Africa. What I sat was Martial Arts meaning the 1st Fighting Systems know to man originated in Africa. Of course other forms developed throughout the world as Africans traveled and others migrated. New forms were created.

[Iconqueru]

That's a lie, Pankration is the oldest martial art on record, that doesn't make it the oldest thought and this mythical immigration from Africa is BS, there are hundreds of ethnic groups around the world and that all life comes africa theory is just a theory not a fact.

[mjrob1914]

Iconqeru thanks for your comment. What source are you using to make this statement? Where is Pankration from?

[Iconqueru]

Pankration comes from Greece. It's actually among the oldest on record. Pankration techniques are depicted on ancient vases and statues. Ssireum techniques which comes from Goguryeo (North Korea) are drawings depicted in caves and palaces, In the temple of Beni Hassan (Egypt) there are techniques depicting egyptian martial techniques. Those are just the ones that have been discovered.

[goebels99]

I guess you have not been to school. IT'S DNA-based fact. Pankration is oldest martial art maybe in Europe but not the world! Lol!!

[darrellriv]

Pankration (pronounced /pæŋˈkrɑːtiɒn/ or /pæŋˈkreɪʃən/, from Ancient Greek: Παγκράτιον - Pagkration/ Pankration, IPA: [paŋˈkration]; Modern Greek: Παγκράτιο, IPA: [pa(ŋ)ˈɡratio]) is a martial arts sport introduced to the Greek Olympic Games in 648 BC and founded as a blend of boxing and wrestling.

[sanucues]

Correction ..the late Dr Ivan Sertima was a world reknown anthroplogist and historian he found dna from bones and fossils do not represent but are hard evidence that establish facts the Nubian (Egyptian/Sudanese) civilizations is over 6 000 yers old ...thats way Before Christ (648)they developed the 1st martial arts ..

[sweatrice]

@darrellriv Pankration is a nationalistic fantasy invented by Jim Arvantis from mixing American wrestling with Savate, more recently he has added Brazilian Jujitsu to its curriculum. FAKE!

[ACTORnSCREENWRITER]

I thought it was something that closely resembles boxing, from modern day Egypt?

[ACTORnSCREENWRITER]

Or maybe its Indian "Kalaripayattu" came out in 12th century bc

[Standardfrank]

Iconqueru: Who were the BLACK SHANG? Well, they were NEGROES/BLACKS who established the first of the CHINESE, XI-dynasties before the mix with the Ayran and Mongoloids creating the black-seed, yellow-skin, flank-haired Chinese you see today. Yes, European white-supremacy nonsense shouts loudest today and lies for all thought and history books. Since Negroes are the genetic-parents and aboriginees of this planet make sure your claims are correct before you post them.

[kaindrg]

@Iconqueru well its the oldest recorded but as logn as ppl are fighitng hunting and killing each other with basicly every human groups have fallen under then u havea martial art wether or not its recorded so that also disproves he african origin

[rb87rb87rb]

I study ethnicities and martial arts. There are many ethnic groups in India. I won't disagree that Ethiopians, Somalis, Vanuatus, aborigines, and other blacks may have influence in the south with Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka but theyre each their own ethnic group which originated in their modern homelands.

[skittlesareyum48]

there is a very rich debate of wha twas the first martia lart. evidence shows pankration is the oldest martia lart.

[mjrob1914]

Skittlesareyun48, thanks for ur comment. I am familiar with Pankration as well other Martial Arts. It was created in Greece. Creece was founded around 1057 BC. This 1st pyramid in Kemet was built 1,600 years before that and their fighting systems or what are called Martial Arts today predated the pyramids.

What evidence are citing that Pankration was the 1st Martial Arts?

[dewvoodle]

that people who want to label and credit race are indeed racist themselves. racism is not limited to white and black people only but all nationalities and what the real point is that we are all just human.

[dewvoodle]

I honestly feel that if you start tracing origins and categorizing them by race it just furthers the social divide and paves the way for discrimination. we as the "human race" obviously determines it necessary to label every single action and place them into categories so individual or select groups can take credit and have racial dominance. i believe how ever that this is not important. reason for said opinion is that i appreciate the individual rather than nationality and can conclude

[keithexum]

This is nothing but Xing Yi chuan with some Ju jitsu mixed in. It seems like he studied some kung fu and some ju jitsu or karate add some African dance mixed it up a bit and came up with his own style.

[mjrob1914]

Thanks Keithexum for your comment. Not really. If you actually study African Martial Arts you will see that there are many African Martial Arts styles including using weapons. The problem is that most of our people haven't been exposed to the African Martial Arts even though they are aware that we had Ancient Armies.

[keithexum]

I have studied African Martial Arts, Korean and Chinese Martial Arts. You see this is our problem and how come we are not taken seriously. We know that Africa is the mother of all things; we know that the oldest and complete writings of martial arts can be found in Kmt (Egypt) in a place called Beni Hassan.

[keithexum]

If you know other people got there arts from you, then you dont have to change anything, because its already yours. When other people copy another people culture they preserve it better than the people whom they got it from. If you stole my car and I get it back, I dont have to change my car to show that its mine.

[africanprince2002]

@keithexum u mean like from india to china. some chinese fighting art has a lot of indian component but modified and polished. but truth is that nobody lives alone. Capoera of Brazil has a lot to do with Angola native martial arts but not exactly the same thing. so why are some people being arrogant over nothing.

[nubanwarrior]

@mjrob1914 Ive just seen brother kilindi in the UK’s, Martial Arts Illustrated magazine (july 2010). It's a nice interview. African fighting arts don’t get good media coverage like Asian arts do. In fact, most people think martial arts is only an Asian thing. Africans and Europeans have their own arts.

p.s. Can someone please upload tape 2 (weapons techniques)

[NeCacaluXuxultic]

@mjrob1914, actually most African martial arts died off. You have Zulu Stick fighting, Dambe, Evala, capoeira D'angola, etc etc etc. To me..this just look like a combination of African martial arts with Oriental martial arts. You should add a LOT of Senegal Wrestling...

[mjrob1914]

@NeCacaluXuxultic, they teach some of those styles at The Tamerrian Institute. You should Google Kilindi's name.

[NeCacaluXuxultic]

@mjrob1914, nevermind..it doesn't look oriental at all anymore... but it looks hella funny. It's hard to know which ones are real and which ones isn't since I've seen a lot of frauds. You're one of them few that don't seem to be fake at all...I have never seen that move..it looks familiar but the application you use is completely different from the one I was familiar with.

[amharjew1]

@keithexum this guy is awsome good stuff

[sweatrice]

@keithexum It is indeed XingYi mixed with Vee Arnis Jutsu/Moses Powell System which is Klindis background. He's quite the snake oil salesman.

[mjrob1914]

@sweatrice, You should do some research on Kilindi's system. All you have to do is Google his name.

[thedeadpresidents]

@keithexum The Human body is the human body, who is to say that these skills developed independently. The only thing that makes each martial art different is enviromental factors.

[CrowdPleeza]

Which African country and ethnic group do these particular techniques come from?

[dewvoodle]

who cares where it started?

[mjrob1914]

Dewovoodle, thanks for your comment. What is your point? It makes a big difference where it started because Africa is not credited at all with the origins of Martial Arts but China and Japan. This is incorrect. Once we learn the true origins of the Martial Arts this will cause us to have a renewed interest in studying our history, culture and original fighting styles.

[MacLeongaway]

Capoeira is proof we had our own fighting system.

[sizzla123]

whta heppened to circle movement, was cut out

seen it before, but for others it is missing out...

[megatron3210]

i aint lying that looks real and effective

[pescador1]

first of, things like 8:33... on this attack, most effective is block the striking hand with your left so to obviously defend yourself and unbalance the attacler, then attack with your right!!!

next, "Contrary to popular belief, Martial Arts did not originate in Asia. It originated in Africa." ??? First time I heard about this... Humans originate from Africa now the Martial Arts originate from Africa, Im sorry but both of these assumption are non sense!!!

[mjrob1914]

Pescador1, thanks for your comments. Please step outside of your circle of limited awareness and do some historical research, you will not only find that the human life originated in Africa, but the 1st fighting systems known to man came out of Africa as well. This is Martial Arts.

The oldest remains that have been found came out of Africa and it's of a woman who Europeans have dubbed "Lucy". Her remains date back approximately 1.3 million years.

[pescador1]

will never ever believe that allllllll of human kind originated from Africa, its non sense...

There so many different types of humans, animals, plants etc etc.. All originating from various different parts of this vast world...

You going to expect me and others to believe that someone planted a seed in Africa and it blossomed into what mankind are now??? No chance!!! Just have to look at all the natives to understand that we dint just sprout from one place...

[mjrob1914]

Apparently you don't study history and archeology. That's fine. The TRUTH will confront you sooner or later.

[BUMousse]

mjrob1914 this is useless. Don't try to confront them with your truth. People, specially people who spend a lot of time on the internet, tend to be incredibly ignorant. They have a powerful tool to help them understand many things, but instead they are happy wasting their time with non productive activities. Obviously this person doesn't know that human life indeed started in africa, and then due to various geographical and circunstancial reasons, tribes had to travel to different lands.

[wolverkk]

True you are.

[keithexum]

All human race can be traced to a common ancestor. The mitochondrial DNA of one prehistoric woman, who lived in Africa, has according to this has been passed down from generation to generation over a span between 200,000 and 150,000 years, supplying the "chemical energy" to all humankind. The out of Africa migration is estimated to have occurred about 50,000 years ago. Modern humans subsequently spread to all continents,

[keithexum]

they inhabited Eurasia and Oceania by 40,000 BP, and the Americas at least 14,500 years ago.

[totalimmortal08]

dude, the oldest human fossils are from africa

[totalimmortal08]

There are not many types of humans, we are one species and modern humans came from Africa. You need to go back and do some research buddy.

[mjrob1914]

Totalimmortal08, thanks for your comment.  Who were you directing your remarks towards?

[totalimmortal08]

It was aimed at pescador1.

mjrob1914, where can I get more information on this martial art?

[rb87rb87rb]

There are many types of humans look at all the ethnic groups. I come from the white lands of Castilla, Deustchland, La France not anywhere on the black lands. All humans come from "Africa"? One of the greatest lies ever told

[mjrob1914]

Humankind originated in Africa. Not saying all ethnic migrated from Africa. They mutated outside of Africa over thousands of years.

[MILLTICKET7]

@pescador1  WOW you said Seed but seeds float they travel...Birds carry them to other plants...Bees carry them...ants walk them...the Wind pushes them....so yes the seed can travel. so come up with a better argument.

[keithexum]

Lucy was 3.5 million years ago and she was about 9 years old when she died they found her in the Hadar region of Ethiopia, it was Donald Johanson who got credit for it on November 30, 1974

[memyself2k]

Very informative. Thanks for the information.

[streetkunedo]

interesting indeed It reminds me of our martial arts from the Philippines, I guess all in connected somehow. keep it up guys this is awesome.

[alvrez0409]

i think some of these techniques they got tehm from asian martial arts

[mjrob1914]

Why would you say that. Asians learned from Africans and learned fighting systems as well. What makes you think that it didn't originate in Africa and then spread?

[mjrob1914]

Why don't you think that it's the other way around when Africa existed before Asia and Martial Arts comes out of Africa.

[rb87rb87rb]

Martial arts started in "Africa"? Says who? Blacks? Every ethnic group on the whether it would whites, reds, browns, blacks, yellows, Greeks, Chinese, Nuba, Iranians, Comanche, etc. they all have an art that's indigenous to their ethnic group. Examples: Pammachon (Greece), Ti (Okinawa), Jujitsu (Japan), Soobahk "Taekyeon" (Korea), Isuna Nika (Comanche).

[mjrob1914]

Rb87rb87rb, thanks for your comment. I think you misunderstood my comment. I didn't say that all Martial Arts forms originated in Africa. I said Martial Arts originated in Africa meaning that the first fighting systems known to man came out Africa because this where the 1st humans originated.

[boneheadagain]

When humans originated in Africa, they had no "fighting systems" as we know them today. They were basically still early humanoid 80 000 years ago. They weren't "Africans" as such, but the ancestor of modern man - of all skin colours. Homosapiens evolved in Africa, so how does the man in the video claim that they then "exchanged their martial knowledge with other people"? Which other people? By the time humans were developing "fighting systems" themigration from Africa had already happened.

[KamikazeLBC]

@boneheadagain

When the migrations began Humans were already Homosapiens-Sapien (Not a Mistake).

[professorkhashon7]

peace my nubean warrior brother,i have been a great admirrour of your system for many yrs. could you shed some light on the name of the african dance's which show distinctions in martial arts.

[Greatsocratesghost]

what was the circular movement?

[baldrascal]

he is very good awesome in person

[baldrascal]

he is very good!!!! i met him in person about 5 years ago. this guy is super fast for his size-- its not the video by any stretch of the imagination.

[bubbaleon]

This looks a whole lot like pencak silat. In my 25 years of Martial study I've never heard of this art other from this guy.

[mjrob1914]

There are alot of African Martial Arts Styles you have never heard of that have existed for thousands of years. This is my whole point of posting this video. It's time for the truth to come out.

[KamikazeLBC]

@bubbaleon

Did you study in Africa?

[starvinmarvn]

Yo! HE SLAPPING the !@#$ out of bruhman!

[Steadno]

A true diamond in the rough! Thank you!